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Livinginthe past
08-31-2006, 03:32 PM
Looks like Adam V. may well be struggling to start the season as the Colts new-and-improved clutch kicker.

Reports vary from source to source - some say its a sprained ligament in the ankle, and another player who 'knows' Adam has insisted that the player has broken a bone in his foot.

Its seems reasonable to assume that Adam will not be rushed back for the start of the season.

Lets all hope that he is back fully fit to lead the Colts post-season charge to the Superbowl.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9628558

ESPN carries a report quoting Adam's mother as saying he had a broken bone in his foot a week and a half ago.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2567710

NM

Froggy
08-31-2006, 04:10 PM
How do sour grapes taste?

SteelerFanInCA
08-31-2006, 06:35 PM
Well, I guess we just have to watch the wire to see if the Colts sign any kickers in the next few days. That should tell us the extent of his injury.

Livinginthe past
08-31-2006, 06:46 PM
Automatica anyone?

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Petesburgh66
08-31-2006, 11:20 PM
The Star originally reported he had a broken foot. Now it's not the case.

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060831/SPORTS03/60831030/1004/SPORTS

6:58 PM August 31, 2006

Colts: Kicker has sprain, not broken foot

By Phil Richards
phil.richards@indystar.com

Clarification of the nature and extent of the injury to Indianapolis Colts placekicker Adam Vinatieri’s left ankle should come tomorrow, when coach Tony Dungy promised a doctor’s report would be issued.

Team spokesman Craig Kelley did the talking today.
“He has a sprained ligament, not a fractured bone in the ankle, and he’s on pace for the opener,” Kelley said after practice. “That’s what we feel and that’s the extent of our comment.”

The question arose because earlier in the day, Vinatieri’s mother, Judy Vinatieri, said the Colts kicker suffered a broken bone in his left, or plant, foot.

“That’s what he told us about a week and a half ago,” Judy Vinatieri said. “They sent him to a specialist. They found a small broken bone in his foot.”

Vinatieri hasn’t kicked in a game since suffering the injury during conditioning drills on Aug. 14. The Colts open the regular season Sept. 10 at the New York Giants.

Dungy declined to elaborate on Kelley’s statement, nor would he discuss any Colts injuries.

“You can ask,” said the coach, “but I’m not going to address it. Our doctor will make a statement (on Friday) is my understanding, so you’ll get the full medical (Friday).”

Team trainer Hunter Smith was unavailable for comment per team policy, as were Vinatieri and Colts players, which is standard procedure the day before a game. The Colts close their preseason Friday night against Cincinnati at the RCA Dome.

Shane Andrus, a first-year player from Murray State, has handled kicking duties since Vinatieri’s injury. Andrus has converted 3-of-4 field goal attempts and is 6-for-6 on extra points.

And the guy the Colts got rid of to bring Adam in?

Vanderjagt's future in Dallas uncertain

Mike Vanderjagt has heard all about the Dallas Cowboys' three losses last season by three points or fewer.

In each case, kickers missed field goals -- none longer than 41 yards -- that might have changed the outcome. Theoretically, a 9-7 non-playoff finish might have become a 12-4 playoff run.

"I've got three games on my shoulders this year," Vanderjagt said early in training camp. "I'm supposed to turn it around."
Coach Bill Parcells told you that?

"Yes, Bill told me that," Vanderjagt said. "(Cowboys owner) Jerry (Jones) told me. Everybody in the stands told me."

The Cowboys broke custom and signed the former Indianapolis Colt, the most accurate field goal kicker in NFL history (87.5 percent), to a three-year, $6 million free agent contract in March. Jones gave Vanderjagt, 36, a $2.5 million bonus after relying on cheaper, less-proven legs for years.

But something beyond consistent kicks has developed this summer. Vanderjagt is nursing sore groin and quadriceps muscles and has missed two preseason games. After working in pregame warm-ups and then scratching himself for game action the past two weeks, it's uncertain if he will kick in tonight's preseason finale against the Minnesota Vikings.

It leaves Parcells in a tight spot as he ponders moves for the 53-man roster.

Parcells says of Vanderjagt, "I've got to see something."

After meeting with the kicker for a heart-to-heart talk last weekend, Parcells hinted Monday that Vanderjagt's status is murky.

"I'm going to do what is best for the Cowboys," he said. "What opinion anybody else has is irrelevant, because they don't have the facts I have."

Parcells began camp hoping that in addition to field goals, Vanderjagt would handle kickoffs -- which he hasn't done since 2003. But kickoff duty might contribute to the injury and is weighed against using an extra roster spot on a specialist. Punter Mat McBriar doesn't kick off; the other kicker left, Shaun Suisham, was among three who kicked last season.

Even before Vanderjagt's injury, the kickoff question was touchy.

"It's an ego thing," Vanderjagt said. "I don't really want to do it . . . but I don't want them to say, 'Aw, Vanderjagt can't do it.' "

This is not a new issue. Colts president Bill Polian pointed to the kickoffs -- and not the 46-yard field goal miss in the waning seconds of the playoff loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers in January -- as the determining factor in not trying to re-sign Vanderjagt. The Colts replaced him with former New England Patriot Adam Vinatieri.

Despite the uncertainty in Dallas, Vanderjagt says he still relishes the chance to kick with the game on the line.

"I don't choke," he said. "I'm not a choker."

Added Vanderjagt: "In the back of my mind, I wouldn't be a competitor if I didn't want to show Indy that they made the wrong decision," he said.

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060831/SPORTS0303/608310452/0/SPORTS03

Livinginthe past
09-01-2006, 07:49 AM
Well thats an interesting turn.

Despite what they say, I would find it hard to believe that Adam told his mother he had a broken bone in his foot if he didn't.

Dungy isn'y saying anything.

Why dont these coaches try and be a little more open about these things? :chuckle:

Glad I dont have him on my FF anyways.

I dont see what the problem with Vanderjagt is really, I think he'll be fine.

Storm in a tea-cup in Dallas.

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BlackNGold203
09-01-2006, 08:00 AM
Looks like Adam V. may well be struggling to start the season as the Colts new-and-improved clutch kicker.

Reports vary from source to source - some say its a sprained ligament in the ankle, and another player who 'knows' Adam has insisted that the player has broken a bone in his foot.

Its seems reasonable to assume that Adam will not be rushed back for the start of the season.

Lets all hope that he is back fully fit to lead the Colts post-season charge to the Superbowl.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/9628558

ESPN carries a report quoting Adam's mother as saying he had a broken bone in his foot a week and a half ago.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2567710

NM

I'd take Viniteri on one foot over a rookie....

OOPS...what was I thinking?????

BB the genius had a premonition that Viniteri would injure his foot!!...That's why he let him go!!!

BB is a genius!!!!!

:cool: :cool:

Livinginthe past
09-01-2006, 08:03 AM
Right.



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BlackNGold203
09-01-2006, 08:06 AM
Sorry LITP..pre season's over...getting my game face on....

And I wasnt being nasty....just jumping on the BB bandwagon!!!!

:bouncy: :bouncy:

HometownGal
09-01-2006, 11:32 AM
Lets all hope that he is back fully fit to lead the Colts post-season charge to the Superbowl.



Nigel - what are you smokin? :blah: It takes more than a kicker to lead a post-season "charge" to the SB - just ask Vanderdrunk - if you can tear him away from that bottle of gin long enough to get a coherent answer out of him. :blurp: :blurp:

You can also ask Peytoon about post-season charges to the SB - - after his rump heals from being knocked on it repeatedly by Peezy & Co. in last year's playoffs. :sofunny:

I took Vinatieri in a lot of my FFs this season but have very capable 2nd kickers to carry to load until Adam returns. No sweat.

Jeremy
09-01-2006, 11:38 AM
It takes more than a kicker to lead a post-season "charge" to the SB

Of course it does. It takes an entire team working together and peaking at the right time.

It also takes a coach who is able to win a Super Bowl. And the simple fact is that Dungy couldn't get it done in Tampa and I really don't think he'll get it done in Indy either.

BlackNGold203
09-01-2006, 11:41 AM
Dungy = the "new" Cowher.....

Jeremy
09-01-2006, 11:46 AM
Maybe. But the big difference I see is that Dungy left the year before Tampa tore through the NFL and crushed Oakland in the Super Bowl with what was basically the same team he had the year before. The biggest difference was Gruden.

I think Cowher has always gotten the absolute best from his teams whereas Dungy has gotten 90%, and 90% ain't gonna get it done.

83-Steelers-43
09-14-2006, 01:18 PM
"Focker.....out"

tony hipchest
09-14-2006, 01:22 PM
Well thats an interesting turn.

Despite what they say, I would find it hard to believe that Adam told his mother he had a broken bone in his foot if he didn't.

Dungy isn'y saying anything.

Why dont these coaches try and be a little more open about these things? :chuckle:

Glad I dont have him on my FF anyways.

I dont see what the problem with Vanderjagt is really, I think he'll be fine.

Storm in a tea-cup in Dallas.

NM

Its seems reasonable to assume that Adam will not be rushed back for the start of the season.


nice thread. dont tell me you would take a rookie kicker over vinatieri for your fantasy team? i was torn between the veterans wilkins and akers. went with akers. looks like vinatieri's still got it on grass. just too bad the odds of seeing him back in the razor come playoff time are slim. he'll probably be on turf until the afcc game in the burgh.