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ricardisimo
10-12-2013, 02:21 PM
For the second week in a row, the Jets have the opportunity to take advantage of an opponent that is grossly underachieving. A stretch in the schedule that was previously thought to be brutal suddenly seems a bit more manageable.
The winless Pittsburgh Steelers are a mess right now. Things have gotten so dire that coach Mike Tomlin has banned games (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9803631/games-banned-pittsburgh-steelers-locker-room?ex_cid=espnapi_public) such as pool and ping pong from the locker room.
Unless cue sticks and paddles are to blame for their turnover problems or woes on the offensive line, prohibiting fun won't accomplish much.
Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is taking way too many sacks and has fumbled five times to go along with his five interceptions. While the Jets are experiencing similar issues with Geno Smith, there's a bit more leeway with a rookie as opposed to a two-time Super Bowl champion.
Safety Ryan Clark, Pittsburgh's defensive captain, has openly criticized (http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/4850787-74/ben-roethlisberger-clark#axzz2hJlLSREO) Roethlisberger's style of play and thinks his quarterback's tendency to try and extend plays is part of the reason for their disappointing start.
Gang Green's defense should be salivating at the thought of going against an offensive line that, due to injuries and demotions, is in shambles. Expect the Jets to swarm Roethlisberger and force him into once again trying to do too much with the football.
Making matters worse for the Steelers, the team is yet to record a takeaway in their first four games. No team in NFL history has ever gone five games into the season without recording one. Giving the ball away at such a high rate while not forcing any turnovers of their own is a recipe for disaster and arguably the main reason Pittsburgh is yet to win a game.
The Steelers have used their bye week to work on their problems but it remains to be seen if they've corrected them.
Coming off of his best game as a pro, the Jets hope their quarterback has turned the corner and shed his mistake-prone ways. The Steelers rank last in sacks so Smith should have plenty of time to throw the ball, easing his decision-making process.
Pittsburgh's below average rush defense should also take some pressure off Smith. When Gang Green is able to get their running game going, it opens up the field for Smith and doesn't allow opposing defenses to sit back in coverage.
Things might be a bit more difficult for the Jets than expected as they've had to deal with a couple of serious injuries the past few days. Linebacker Antwan Barnes was placed on injured reserve Wednesday and is out for the remainder of the season. Barnes, who hurt his knee in the Monday night win over the Atlanta Falcons, has been a key component in rushing the quarterback and is just the type of player that would have given Roethlisberger fits all day long.
Already thin at cornerback, Antonio Cromartie suffered a non-contact injury at practice Thursday and his status is unknown going forward. The Jets are concerned about the injury, and given the play of some of their other corners, Cromartie is one guy they cannot afford to lose on defense.
Despite the injuries, these are the types of winnable games that the Jets need to capitalize on.
If Gang Green can continue to limit their mistakes while exploiting Pittsburgh's weaknesses, a showdown looms next week against the New England Patriots with first place in the AFC East on the line.

ricardisimo
10-12-2013, 02:24 PM
Coming off what could be a defining effort in his young career, the New York Jets (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyj/new-york-jets)' Geno Smith (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/15864/geno-smith) hopes to take the next step in his development by putting up consecutive strong performances.
Facing a defense that hasn't had a takeaway, Smith might be up to the task against the winless Pittsburgh Steelers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/pit/pittsburgh-steelers), but he won't have his top pass-catcher available after the suspension of tight end Kellen Winslow (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/5531/kellen-winslow).
The Jets look to continue their surprising start and remain undefeated at home Sunday when they try to extend Pittsburgh's worst start in 45 years.
Smith helped New York (3-2) notch its best start since 2010 on Monday night, completing 16 of 20 passes for 199 yards and a career-best three touchdowns in a dramatic 30-28 victory in Atlanta. After the Falcons went ahead with 1:54 to play, Smith connected on four straight passes and added an 8-yard run to set up Nick Folk (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10621/nick-folk)'s game-winning field goal on the final play.
The rookie was tied for the NFL lead with 11 turnovers, including eight interceptions, but didn't have one Monday and completed a season-best 80.0 percent of his passes despite being sacked four times.
"It was a tremendous game for him without question," coach Rex Ryan said.
Winslow's only reception was a 1-yard TD catch, and he leads the Jets with 17 receptions. He was suspended for four games Friday for violating the league's policy on performance enhancing substances.
Smith and the Jets have followed each of their previous two wins with a loss. He's completed 64.4 percent of his attempts with six touchdowns and three interceptions in three victories, compared to 55.1 percent with one score and five picks in two losses. However, both defeats came on the road, and New York has gone 2-0 at home.
With former starter Mark Sanchez (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12482/mark-sanchez) out of the picture following season-ending shoulder surgery, Smith appears to be the future of a franchise that has posted back-to-back wins only once in its last 24 games.
"I got a memo from the league, and they said we can win two games in a row," Ryan joked. "I think that's going to be what I talk to our team about."
The Steelers (0-4) are just looking for one win following their bye week, off to their worst start since opening 0-6 in 1968. They'll have a different look defensively, with defensive end Cameron Heyward (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/13977/cameron-heyward) starting while rookie Vince Williams (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/15934/vince-williams) lines up alongside Lawrence Timmons (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10459/lawrence-timmons) at inside linebacker.
Despite being 10th in total defense with 321.8 yards allowed per game, Pittsburgh is the only team in the league yet to create a turnover. The Steelers' minus-11 turnover differential is second-worst only to the New York Giants (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyg/new-york-giants) and their four sacks are the NFL's fewest.
"I like the attitude, demeanor and approach to work that the guys have taken," coach Mike Tomlin said. "That's just part of the equation. Obviously, putting it together and producing victory is the most significant part of the equation."
After missing the first three games with a foot injury, rookie Le'Veon Bell (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/15825/le%27veon-bell) hopes to keep giving Pittsburgh's sluggish running game a lift. He finished with 57 yards and two touchdowns on 16 carries in his debut, a 34-27 loss to Minnesota in London on Sept. 29, and his workload figures to increase against the Jets.
Bell is likely to have at least one and perhaps two new faces in front of him.
With struggling Mike Adams (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/5893/mike-adams) heading to the bench, Kelvin Beachum (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/15035/kelvin-beachum) and newly acquired Levi Brown (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10450/levi-brown) are expected to see action at left tackle. Guard Ramon Foster (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12883/ramon-foster) remains bothered by a strained pectoral muscle and his status is uncertain. If Foster can't go, Brown will likely start at left tackle, with the versatile Beachum replacing Foster.
They'll try to provide better protection for Ben Roethlisberger (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/5536/ben-roethlisberger), who was sacked five times by the Vikings and has been dropped 15 times on the season. That's tied for fourth-most in the NFL despite Pittsburgh having played one fewer game than most teams.
Roethlisberger has thrown for 789 yards and three touchdowns in the last two games but has six turnovers in that span.
He connected on 24 of 31 attempts for 275 yards and two scores without an interception in a 27-10 victory over the Jets on Sept. 16, 2012, in the teams' last matchup.
He'll face a New York defense ranked second in the league, allowing 299.0 yards per game. The Jets, though, suffered a big loss Monday when outside linebacker Antwan Barnes (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/10577/antwan-barnes) went down with a season-ending knee injury.
New York could also be without cornerback Antonio Cromartie (http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/9605/antonio-cromartie) due to a knee injury.
This is New York's first home meeting with the Steelers since a 19-16 victory in 2007.

tony hipchest
10-12-2013, 02:27 PM
finally it's that time. No time like the present to pick that up first win. if we are going to make the playoffs we must wine. can no lose.

WVABE
10-12-2013, 03:11 PM
We can win and set a record at the same time, 0 turnovers in 5 games, I say go for it.

I like a record that will stand forever :-).

ricardisimo
10-12-2013, 04:31 PM
I know that Tomlin's plan is to lull the league into a false sense of security, but I think now's the time to put the car in first gear. No more rope-a-dope.

ricardisimo
10-13-2013, 01:53 AM
Game 5 matchup: Steelers vs. Jets


October 13, 2013 12:05 am
By Gerry Dulac / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
When the Jets have the ball: Like the Steelers, the Jets have made a habit of giving the ball away, committing 12 turnovers, most in the AFC. But their running game averages 4.1 yards per carry and passing game averages 222.8 yards per game. The Steelers have allowed runs of 55 and 60 yards and passes of 51, 61 and 70 yards, all in the past three games. That could be a problem against rookie QB Geno Smith, who is tied for first in the league with 40-plus yard completions (5) and is seventh in completions of 20 yards or longer (20). RB Bilal Powell has rushed for 149 and 66 yards in the past two games. Smith utilizes tight ends -- Kellen Winslow Jr. and Jeff Cumberland -- something that gave the Steelers problems against the Bengals. Winslow will be out because of a four-game suspension for performance enhancing drugs. But Smith also spreads the ball to a number of receivers, including former Steelers' WR Santonio Holmes, although Holmes has been limited by a Lisfranc injury.
When the Steelers have the ball: The Jets are second in the league in total defense and rush defense, and one of the reasons is their tandem of defensive ends in the 3-4 -- rookie Sheldon Richardson (21/2 sacks, 8 QB hurries) and Muhammad Wilkerson (4 sacks). But, like the Steelers, they don't intercept the ball or force many turnovers. The Jets have just three takeaways (two fumble recoveries, one interception), third fewest in the AFC. LB David Harris leads the team with 49 tackles. OLB Calvin Pace will come in blitz situations and has 301/2 sacks since 2008. The Jets traded All-Pro CB Darrelle Revis after an injury-shortened 2012 season and replaced him with rookie Dee Milliner, their No. 1 draft choice. Milliner has been slowed by a hamstring injury. S Dawan Landry has the team's only interception. The Jets, who rank 13th in the league against the pass, will have to stop Ben Roethlisberger, who has passed for 789 yards and three TDs in the past three games. But Roethlisberger has 16 turnovers (seven lost fumbles) in his past eight games dating to last season.
Keep an eye on:
Ks Nick Folk and Shaun Suisham ... The two have not missed a field goal in 17 attempts this season. Folk, the Jets' kicker, has converted all 11 field goal attempts, including the winning 43-yarder with no time remaining in Atlanta on Monday night. He has converted six field goals between 40 and 49 yards. Suisham is perfect on all six attempts, including two from 44 yards. He had two field goals in the loss to the Vikings in London.
Intangibles:
The Steelers are off to their worst start since 1968 and have allowed the most points in four games (110) since that same season. ...The Steelers have won the past two meetings with the Jets, including postseason, but the Jets have won the past two meetings at home. The Jets are 2-0 at home this season and are coming off a big comeback victory in Atlanta, 30-28. ... The Steelers face the Jets on the road for the first time since 2007, but it is not their first game in MetLife Stadium. They defeated the New York Giants there in November. . ... The Steelers' 81.8 percent winning percentage vs. the Jets in regular season and postseason combined is their best against any team they have faced at least 20 times.
To win, the Jets must ...
1. Make a splash. The Steelers defense has been vulnerable to big plays, giving up five of 50-plus yards in the past three games.
2. Ring Bell. Rookie RB Le'Veon Bell had 57 yards rushing and 27 yards receiving in his NFL debut against the Vikings.
3. Get A.C. on A.B. They will use CB Antonio Cromartie to slow Antonio Brown, who has 21 catches for 284 yards in his past two games.
To win, the Steelers must ...
1. Be mean-o with Geno. Defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau has a 16-2 lifetime record against rookie quarterbacks.
2. Bend the ends. Wilkerson and Richardson have been a disruptive force in the D-line, accounting for 6.5 sacks and 16 QB hurries.
3. Take the ball, please. They are the only team in the league without a takeaway in 2013 after being minus-10 in turnover margin a season ago.

Neil-Still-Rules-14
10-13-2013, 01:57 AM
Please get a win. Please.

ricardisimo
10-13-2013, 01:59 AM
I'm with Bouchette on this: Until they get a win I won't assume that they can win any of them.

James
10-13-2013, 06:58 AM
ryan clark needs to worry about the defense having no turnovers maybe if he played for the ball instead of the hit pitt would have some.i dont see how big bens playmaking hurts the team when he would be getting sacked otherwise hell he might even do better with foster and adams out now only if gilbert got injured we might have a chance to win a game.

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 11:31 AM
ryan clark needs to worry about the defense having no turnovers maybe if he played for the ball instead of the hit pitt would have some.i dont see how big bens playmaking hurts the team when he would be getting sacked otherwise hell he might even do better with foster and adams out now only if gilbert got injured we might have a chance to win a game.


Actually Gilbert and De Castro have played two games in a row now at a much higher level.

Atlanta Dan
10-13-2013, 11:38 AM
New York Jets inactives:
QB Brady Quinn, WR Santonio Holmes, CB Dee Milliner, LB Troy Davis, WR Michael Campbell, OT Ben Ijalana and OT Oday Aboushi.

I guess when you get a 4 game ban for PEDs like Winslow that does not count as being inactive but he is out too

Pittsburgh Steelers inactives:
QB Landry Jones, WR Markus Wheaton, RB Isaac Redman, LB Chris Carter, G Cody Wallace, OT Mike Adams, DT Hebron Fangupo.

Barring injuries does anyone think Redman is active again this season?

SteelersCanada
10-13-2013, 11:39 AM
Gilbert has settled in at RT. We're going to see how Beachum plays at LT today.

Buddha Bus
10-13-2013, 11:42 AM
Barring injuries does anyone think Redman is active again this season?

Honestly, I'm a little shocked he hasn't just been outright cut after his pseudo-concussion snafu.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 11:55 AM
Steelers really need to win this game - or I am gonna get crucified tomorrow at the office.

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 12:01 PM
Steelers really need to win this game - or I am gonna get crucified tomorrow at the office.

I assume the Giants fans will be nice & quiet...:chuckle:

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:01 PM
I assume the Giants fans will be nice & quiet...:chuckle:

Not a peep. :chuckle:

IowaSteeler927
10-13-2013, 12:02 PM
LET'S GO STEELERS!

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 12:04 PM
Haley had that one planned for 2 weeks?

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:04 PM
Man, we really need to score on this drive.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:05 PM
You've got to be kidding me. That has to be the stupidest play-calling to start this game. Unreal. 3 and out.

Confounding Factor
10-13-2013, 12:06 PM
DONK

OX1947
10-13-2013, 12:06 PM
Wow, what an absolute pathetic display of offense. 2 weeks to prep and all they have is two bumble screen in 3 plays to show. Wow, wow.

MACH1
10-13-2013, 12:06 PM
I thought we got rid of Arians.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:06 PM
Well. that caught the D napping.

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 12:06 PM
Wow, what an absolute pathetic display of offense. 2 weeks to prep and all they have is two bumble screen in 3 plays to show. Wow, wow.

I totally agree. Let's keep doing what hasn't worked. Insanity?

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:07 PM
Unreal - Brown the bum gets hurt. Why exactly did we get this guy?

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 12:08 PM
Unreal. Levi Brown out for the game. The Steelers are injury-cursed.

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:09 PM
Very nice pressure there!

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 12:09 PM
There we go! Steelers Defense of old!! Must be because Cowher is in the booth,

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:09 PM
Nice pressure on Geno. Almost got him in the backfield.

Confounding Factor
10-13-2013, 12:10 PM
LOL Levi really out of this game?

No fucking way.

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:11 PM
Lets move the ball OFFENSE!

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:11 PM
LOL Levi really out of this game?

No fucking way.

Got hurt during pre-game practice.

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 12:11 PM
LOL Levi really out of this game?

No fucking way.

Yeah, hard to believe, huh?

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:12 PM
Well, that didn't take long. Holding call - really stupid

ZoneBlitzer
10-13-2013, 12:12 PM
LOL Levi really out of this game?

No fucking way.

and thus endeth the Levi Brown era. Most critical EPIC FAIL EVER.

OX1947
10-13-2013, 12:12 PM
Are these assholes going to pass down the field or what? I HATE this team

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 12:12 PM
How many times have we had good field position this year? Twice?

Confounding Factor
10-13-2013, 12:12 PM
and thus endeth the Levi Brown era. Most critical EPIC FAIL EVER.

Please tell me we are going to have video footage of Kevin Colbert smashing his head on a table.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:13 PM
Almost a safety - Ben got out of that. Beachum got beat

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 12:13 PM
Ben haters...need more evidence that the line is the problem?

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:13 PM
Sanders stumbles and the ball goes sailing by him. Sigh.

Confounding Factor
10-13-2013, 12:14 PM
It's gonna be a long game.

cbrunn
10-13-2013, 12:14 PM
hahahaha there goes Beachum who you guys swore was the best Olinemen we had

Beachum is a career backup just cause he can play every position

SMH Adams doesn't at least dress

Atlanta Dan
10-13-2013, 12:14 PM
So much for the steady improvement of the offense

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:15 PM
Man, what an unbelievably shitty team.

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:16 PM
this could be a long day. need the defense to get things started for us.

fer522
10-13-2013, 12:16 PM
Man tomlin sucks ass

ZoneBlitzer
10-13-2013, 12:16 PM
Man, what an unbelievably shitty team.

Well at least they have company.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:16 PM
hahahaha there goes Beachum who you guys swore was the best Olinemen we had

Beachum is a career backup just cause he can play every position

SMH Adams doesn't at least dress

Why should he? He's inactive - can't play at all.

IowaSteeler927
10-13-2013, 12:16 PM
Beachum just needs to settle down, as does the offense as a whole. Get back to the fundamentals.

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 12:17 PM
Honestly. This, after a bye week?!

SteelersCanada
10-13-2013, 12:17 PM
It's always good when Beachum gets beat across his face immediately at the snap.

casteeler
10-13-2013, 12:17 PM
Man tomlin sucks ass

Yes he does

ebsteelers
10-13-2013, 12:17 PM
Do do alert

Atlanta Dan
10-13-2013, 12:17 PM
Minor point - the empty marketing gesture of the pink everything for breast cancer awareness irritates me for some reason


Maybe they can start wearing black and blue for a salute to concussion awareness

SH-Rock
10-13-2013, 12:17 PM
Man tomlin sucks ass

Great analysis buddy.

Bayz101
10-13-2013, 12:17 PM
Ben saved two points there. Not sure how people are blaming coaches when this offensive line is blocking. :doh:

SteelersCanada
10-13-2013, 12:17 PM
Yes he does

Two three and outs and it's Tomlin's fault Beachum got beat across his face and Manny stumbled.

ZoneBlitzer
10-13-2013, 12:17 PM
this could be a long day. need the defense to get things started for us.

Never forget that its all the defenses fault for the problems on this team. Its because they don't' get sacks or turnovers.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:17 PM
Another 1st down - missed tackle

OX1947
10-13-2013, 12:18 PM
Two three and outs and it's Tomlin's fault Beachum got beat across his face and Manny stumbled.

His coaching sucks. Steelers won with the worst line in history in 2008.

Bayz101
10-13-2013, 12:18 PM
Pro tip: The screens are probably being called because Ben's getting 1.1 second each snap to throw the ball.

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 12:18 PM
Minor point - the empty marketing gesture of the pink everything for breast cancer awareness irritates me for some reason


Maybe they can start wearing black and blue for a salute to concussion awareness

My wife too. She railed against it for 5 minutes last week. I was surprised to hear that from a woman.

fer522
10-13-2013, 12:19 PM
Two three and outs and it's Tomlin's fault Beachum got beat across his face and Manny stumbled.

Dude THE COACHES PICK THE PLAYERS duh!!!!

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:19 PM
Never forget that its all the defenses fault for the problems on this team. Its because they don't' get sacks or turnovers.

Actually both are culpable for both last season and this season's woes.

LVSteelersfan
10-13-2013, 12:19 PM
Missed tackles are the name of the game for this team. I thought just maybe they might look a little better after the bye and benching some players. So much for that. They look worse than they did in London.

SteelersCanada
10-13-2013, 12:19 PM
Dude THE COACHES PICK THE PLAYERS duh!!!!

Beachum or Adams? If he went with Adams you'd bitch about him going with Adams. He went with Beachum and you're bitching.

Logic!

Bayz101
10-13-2013, 12:20 PM
His coaching sucks. Steelers won with the worst line in history in 2008.

I recall Ben getting more than 1 second to throw the ball very often in 2008. He's not getting that today, and until he does, the only thing our offense will be able to do is bubble screens and dump offs.

IowaSteeler927
10-13-2013, 12:20 PM
This team sucks... Tomlin sucks... Todd Haley Sucks... Roethlisberger Sucks.... BLAH BLAH BLAH. There's blame to go all around for this whole team at different times. It's a team sport. You win and lose as a team. If everything sucks so bad quit watching, quit whining, and go somewhere else.

SteelersCanada
10-13-2013, 12:20 PM
His coaching sucks. Steelers won with the worst line in history in 2008.

Didn't realize Tomlin was playcalling today. When did he take over those duties?

Lady Steel
10-13-2013, 12:20 PM
Hi, everyone! :wave:

Things aren't looking good thus far, huh? But, there's lots of game left, so keep the faith.

HERE WE GO! :tt:

SH-Rock
10-13-2013, 12:20 PM
His coaching sucks. Steelers won with the worst line in history in 2008.

What is the difference between correlation and causation?

Ravens one without a QB in 2000. Why have the Steelers only won twice WITH a QB. And you're forgetting Tomlin won that Super Bowl, not another HC.

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 12:20 PM
Missed tackles are the name of the game for this team. I thought just maybe they might look a little better after the bye and benching some players. So much for that. They look worse than they did in London.

2009 all over again.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:21 PM
Another 1st down - sigh

LVSteelersfan
10-13-2013, 12:21 PM
Gilbert should be left tackle. At least he did it last year. This coaching staff is unbelievably hard headed.

OX1947
10-13-2013, 12:21 PM
I recall Ben getting more than 1 second to throw the ball very often in 2008. He's not getting that today, and until he does, the only thing our offense will be able to do is bubble screens and dump offs.

Because they know Ben cant throw and receivers cant get open in time. It is a product of the talent behind the line.

fer522
10-13-2013, 12:21 PM
Didn't realize Tomlin was playcalling today. When did he take over those duties?

Youre right hes not even good for that

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:22 PM
Nice, came in from the outside for the stop.

Confounding Factor
10-13-2013, 12:22 PM
Nvm it was a joke

SteelersCanada
10-13-2013, 12:22 PM
Youre right hes not even good for that

You can't even make a coherent argument about Tomlin.

Hey, the Jets have three first downs so far - Tomlin's fault, right?

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:23 PM
This defense is just beyond stupid - rush 3 and leave the RB open on the flank. Are you kidding me?

lipps83
10-13-2013, 12:24 PM
This defense is just beyond stupid - rush 3 and leave the RB open on the flank. Are you kidding me?

Lebeau is just trapping them. He has them right where he wants them.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:24 PM
What a massive hole up the middle. This is just so sad to watch.

OX1947
10-13-2013, 12:24 PM
Maybe Tomlin can take away electricity this week so the Steelers do not have to see how shitty they have played the last YEAR

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:24 PM
Stopped them

OX1947
10-13-2013, 12:25 PM
Wow, this is dumb, sorry Cowher, you have a lousy defense, with one of the worst offenses I have seen in the last decade. I would have gone for it.

fer522
10-13-2013, 12:25 PM
You can't even make a coherent argument about Tomlin.

Hey, the Jets have three first downs so far - Tomlin's fault, right?

Of course it is he coaching the steelers and the jets are playing the steelers:doh:

SteelersCanada
10-13-2013, 12:26 PM
Of course it is he coaching the steelers and the jets are playing the steelers:doh:

Bulletproof. He's the OC and the DC in your mind apparently. He's also out there tackling and playing LT.

Sweet logic.

Lady Steel
10-13-2013, 12:26 PM
Git 'em, Ike! :chuckle:

Confounding Factor
10-13-2013, 12:26 PM
Why am I not surprised there wasn't a flag on that Taylor scuffle?

MACH1
10-13-2013, 12:27 PM
Bulletproof. He's the OC and the DC in your mind apparently. He's also out there tackling and playing LT.

Sweet logic.

He is the head coach and has final say in the game plan. Just sayin

Atlanta Dan
10-13-2013, 12:27 PM
Good to hold for a field goal

Now a Felix Jones kickoff return back to the 15 yard line and the Steelers will be in business to maybe get a first down

My guess is run-run-Ben runs for his life then punt

SH-Rock
10-13-2013, 12:27 PM
Bulletproof. He's the OC and the DC in your mind apparently. He's also out there tackling and playing LT.

Sweet logic.

Don't forget. QB, WR, TE, RB, OLB, ILB, DE, NT, FS, SS, CB

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:28 PM
Was a good stop by the defense, a nice return here to get the offense out of the shadow of their own endzone would be refreshing.

LVSteelersfan
10-13-2013, 12:29 PM
Looks like we get it at the 35. Did he kick it out of bounds?

fer522
10-13-2013, 12:29 PM
Bulletproof. He's the OC and the DC in your mind apparently. He's also out there tackling and playing LT.

Sweet logic.

No hes not the OC or the DC but he as the coach could tell the coordinators to do things differently

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:30 PM
Looks like we get it at the 35. Did he kick it out of bounds?

I thought so too, but the ref signaled touchback.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:31 PM
We got a 1st down! Yay

LVSteelersfan
10-13-2013, 12:31 PM
Unbelievable. First down.

Lady Steel
10-13-2013, 12:31 PM
Nice gain by Bell. :tt:

Confounding Factor
10-13-2013, 12:31 PM
A FIRST DOWN.

NO LONGER AN ENDANGERED SPECIES??

Bayz101
10-13-2013, 12:31 PM
No hes not the OC or the DC but he as the coach could tell the coordinators to do things differently

Our defense is lacking, sure, but the offense isn't exactly helping. Until the line gives Ben more than a second to throw the ball on a more regular occasion, the calls will continue to be Screens and Dump offs. Either that or Ben will get hurt and the next man up will come in and repeat the very same process.

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 12:31 PM
I like the shoulder by Bell! Didn't do the Mendenhall sissy out-of-bounds dance.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:31 PM
Nowhere running - not with this O-line

OX1947
10-13-2013, 12:32 PM
Maybe Tomlin can clap more for the guys who keep fucking up.

Confounding Factor
10-13-2013, 12:33 PM
LOL running it on 2nd and 19...

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:33 PM
Going nowhere with the run - 3rd and a mile

Lady Steel
10-13-2013, 12:33 PM
This playcalling sucks.

Confounding Factor
10-13-2013, 12:34 PM
Holy shit what effort from Brown!!

jak341
10-13-2013, 12:34 PM
Nice effort by AB!

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:34 PM
nice job by AB!!

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 12:34 PM
Maybe Tomlin can clap more for the guys who keep fucking up.

Honestly, I can't stand that cut-away. Every freaking game they show him doing that and it drives me nuts.

LVSteelersfan
10-13-2013, 12:34 PM
I hate that play. It worked that time by a miracle.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:34 PM
Sacked

Confounding Factor
10-13-2013, 12:34 PM
This OLine is toast

Lady Steel
10-13-2013, 12:34 PM
Poor Ben. :frown:

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 12:35 PM
Ben is going to get killed.

Penn
10-13-2013, 12:35 PM
That was Heaths fault on that sack

Bayz101
10-13-2013, 12:35 PM
What was that, 1.6 seconds? Didn't even get the three-step. But no, it's the coaches fault, right? :laughing:

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:35 PM
Mercifully, the quarter comes to an end. That was ugly.

lipps83
10-13-2013, 12:35 PM
Sweet. Time to run that draw play again.

LVSteelersfan
10-13-2013, 12:36 PM
WHY THE HELL ISN"T GILBERT OUT THERE AT LT? Damn it Tomlin. He played that position at least half way decent in the past. These stupid ass coaching decisions are driving me up the wall.

OX1947
10-13-2013, 12:36 PM
Gee, lets see, our line sucks monkey crap, our QB already holds the ball too long, we just got a first down, HEY, let's run a 5 step drop guys!!!!! Good call, excellent coaching!

Bayz101
10-13-2013, 12:36 PM
That was Heaths fault on that sack

This is some of the worst pass-blocking in Pittsburgh Steelers history, and THAT is a scary thought.

IowaSteeler927
10-13-2013, 12:37 PM
Heath looked tentative on that block, like maybe he wasn't sure if he should be blocking or not on that play?

LVSteelersfan
10-13-2013, 12:37 PM
It is the coach's fault because they put a journeyman lineman at the most critical position on the Oline. GILBERT. Damn you GILBERT. He is better than that. He makes a block once in awhile.

SteelersCanada
10-13-2013, 12:37 PM
Holding, Mike Tomlin. 10 yards.

Oh and Mike just gave up a sack too.

IowaSteeler927
10-13-2013, 12:37 PM
Heath just made up for it!

Confounding Factor
10-13-2013, 12:37 PM
Wow Miller

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:37 PM
WOW!!! What a catch by Heath! Awesome!

Bayz101
10-13-2013, 12:38 PM
Gee, lets see, our line sucks monkey crap, our QB already holds the ball too long, we just got a first down, HEY, let's run a 5 step drop guys!!!!! Good call, excellent coaching!

Actually, that one was on Heath Miller.

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:38 PM
HHHHHEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTTHHHHHHHHHHHH! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lady Steel
10-13-2013, 12:38 PM
HEEEEEEATH!!!! :heart:

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 12:38 PM
HEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAATHHHHHHH!!!! What a friggin thrown and catch!!!

fer522
10-13-2013, 12:38 PM
Miller time

OX1947
10-13-2013, 12:38 PM
Miller, thats a football player right there. Freakin stud

casteeler
10-13-2013, 12:38 PM
Great Catch Heath

Confounding Factor
10-13-2013, 12:38 PM
Stop running it up the gut.

SH-Rock
10-13-2013, 12:38 PM
So if everything wrong is tomlin's fault, is everything right tomlin's doing?

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:39 PM
where is the zone blocking. Im not seeing anyone getting cut blocked

fer522
10-13-2013, 12:39 PM
Thats on ben.

MACH1
10-13-2013, 12:39 PM
aaannnd sack. :doh:

LVSteelersfan
10-13-2013, 12:39 PM
They are just sending the house because they know they can.

casteeler
10-13-2013, 12:39 PM
WORST.OLINE.EVER

Confounding Factor
10-13-2013, 12:40 PM
WORST.OLINE.EVER

Actually that play was on Ben.

But close enough

OX1947
10-13-2013, 12:40 PM
You are 0-4, the hell? Go for it

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:40 PM
Ben is pressing. He had Sanders wide open underneath and he held the ball only to be sacked.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:41 PM
Another sack. Why doesn't Ben just throw the ball away?

Lady Steel
10-13-2013, 12:41 PM
Sweet Cheeks ties it up at 3. I'll take it. :tt:

SH-Rock
10-13-2013, 12:41 PM
Miller, thats a football player right there. Freakin stud

TOMLIN'S FAULT! TOMLIN'S FAULT!

Bayz101
10-13-2013, 12:41 PM
Tied up. At least we didn't wait to be down 21 points to score this time.

LVSteelersfan
10-13-2013, 12:42 PM
WOO HOO. Tie score. Same old crap. Always field goals.

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:43 PM
now lets flip the field so the defense can really pressure Geno.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:43 PM
Another stupid kick - unreal.

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:43 PM
holy shit sushi...smh

LVSteelersfan
10-13-2013, 12:43 PM
WORST.OLINE.EVER

I don't know about ever. The Steelers had some pretty crappy Olines back in the 60s. At least I heard that. :flap:

casteeler
10-13-2013, 12:43 PM
What a Jag-o:doh:

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:44 PM
How is he so wide open?

OX1947
10-13-2013, 12:44 PM
"Yes, good job for kicking it out of bounds, darn"
-Mike Tomlin

Bayz101
10-13-2013, 12:44 PM
Great job, Dick. Put 99 on a receiver. :doh:

lipps83
10-13-2013, 12:44 PM
now lets flip the field so the defense can really pressure Geno.

Yeah, right.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:45 PM
Nice stop.

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:45 PM
Nice play Williams!!

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:46 PM
SACKED BABY!!!

fer522
10-13-2013, 12:46 PM
About time

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:46 PM
YEESSSSS!!! SACKED!!!

Lady Steel
10-13-2013, 12:46 PM
Sackage! Hell, yeah! :tt:

Bayz101
10-13-2013, 12:46 PM
1 out of 11.

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:47 PM
Dont be a pussy Brown and return that. damn

Lady Steel
10-13-2013, 12:47 PM
1 out of 11.

:laughing:

SteelCity4Life
10-13-2013, 12:47 PM
What a sack by Worilds!!!

Atlanta Dan
10-13-2013, 12:47 PM
17 quarters and counting without a turnover from the defense

Neil-Still-Rules-14
10-13-2013, 12:47 PM
1 out of 11.

Immediately what I thought lol.

Bayz101
10-13-2013, 12:48 PM
17 quarters and counting without a turnover from the defense

Unfortunately, with this offensive pass-blocking, a turnover probably wouldn't produce much. I want that turnover to happen when the line gets warmed up and Ben isn't running for his life.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:49 PM
NIce. Heath for the 1st down

OX1947
10-13-2013, 12:49 PM
Wow, Ben had 4 seconds to throw there.

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:49 PM
We need more balls to that guy!! HEATH is the MAN!

Lady Steel
10-13-2013, 12:49 PM
HEEEEEATH! Studmeister. :tt:

IowaSteeler927
10-13-2013, 12:49 PM
Unfortunately, with this offensive pass-blocking, a turnover probably wouldn't produce much. I want that turnover to happen when the line gets warmed up and Ben isn't running for his life.

Precisely.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:50 PM
Nice - 1st down to Sanders.

Lady Steel
10-13-2013, 12:51 PM
Sanders. Nice.


LET'S GO! :tt:

Bayz101
10-13-2013, 12:51 PM
Ben is hitting them nicely right now. Line is doing a little better.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:51 PM
Horse-collar. Nice

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:52 PM
nice..we are finally seeing some rhythm by this offense

OX1947
10-13-2013, 12:52 PM
Horse collar is grabbing the back of the neck of the shoulder pad not the jersey

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:52 PM
HOLY COW!!! WHAT A PLAY!!

fer522
10-13-2013, 12:52 PM
Wow

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:52 PM
lol, nice throw

jak341
10-13-2013, 12:52 PM
I can't believe that worked.

MACH1
10-13-2013, 12:52 PM
Holy shit a trick play

Bayz101
10-13-2013, 12:52 PM
Holy shit

Lady Steel
10-13-2013, 12:52 PM
Ben to Jones for 15. Awesome catch!

lipps83
10-13-2013, 12:53 PM
Love Brown. Don't see why people are so down on him sometimes.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:53 PM
Getting 3-4 yards on the ground now - keeping the Jets honest

OX1947
10-13-2013, 12:53 PM
UGH, RUN STRIAGHT!!!! stop mendenhalling it Bell!!!

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:53 PM
Well, that wasn't good.

fer522
10-13-2013, 12:54 PM
We need 7 fuck 3

OX1947
10-13-2013, 12:54 PM
3 points again, mother (bleep)

fer522
10-13-2013, 12:54 PM
Wtf

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:54 PM
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jak341
10-13-2013, 12:54 PM
So close....

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:54 PM
u gotta hold to that one

Lady Steel
10-13-2013, 12:55 PM
Aw, poop! Gotta hold on to those, Antonio. :frown:

Atlanta Dan
10-13-2013, 12:56 PM
Make a hit like Ben took on Brady or Peyton and it is a penalty

kan_t
10-13-2013, 12:56 PM
Not a rushing the passer penalty? He clearly put his weight on Ben.

SteelCity4Life
10-13-2013, 12:56 PM
"Close to a penalty"

It's on Ben Roethlisberger. Different story if we're talking Tom Brady.

F*cking O line. We had some great plays that drive tho

fer522
10-13-2013, 12:56 PM
Make a hit like Ben took on Brady or Peyton and it is a penalty

And a 10 year jail sentence

LVSteelersfan
10-13-2013, 12:57 PM
Two uncalled penalties on the Jets on that play. That was obviously PI on Cromartie pushing off and the way Ben was tackled.

Atlanta Dan
10-13-2013, 12:57 PM
No excuse for Brown on that

SteelersCanada
10-13-2013, 12:58 PM
I like the playcalling on that drive. Have to hold onto that AB, but it was still sort of PI on Cromartie.

We're winning! Holy shit!

SH-Rock
10-13-2013, 12:58 PM
That drop must've been tomlin's fault. God I hate tomlin so much.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:59 PM
Man, that was close - the receiver was wide open - slightly overthrown

SteelersCanada
10-13-2013, 12:59 PM
Holy shit Ike and Troy were backward on that play.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 12:59 PM
SACKED AGAIN!!! YES!!

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 12:59 PM
BOOOM!! BIG HIT BY THE WOOD!

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 01:00 PM
Wood!!

SteelersCanada
10-13-2013, 01:00 PM
Woodley with the Sack. Damn, Wood.

LT and Woodley are playing well again. Here we go boys, buckle up.

SteelCity4Life
10-13-2013, 01:00 PM
DAMN Woodley!

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 01:01 PM
That was a heckuva hit by Woodley - pounded Geno

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 01:01 PM
Would ya look at that?! A sack on 3rd down and we get good field position!

LVSteelersfan
10-13-2013, 01:01 PM
Come on guys. We want to see what a TD looks like. Why isn't someone else returning punts? Brown calls fair catch every single time.

jak341
10-13-2013, 01:01 PM
Starting to see some good things this game. Good QB pressure, keeping the run in check, and the O-Line is starting to look a little better. Not good, but better than previous outings.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 01:02 PM
Would ya look at that?! A sack on 3rd down and we get good field position!

Let's see if they can do anything with it.

pczach
10-13-2013, 01:02 PM
Timmons made that one with the quick pressure. Good job.

Penn
10-13-2013, 01:02 PM
why does brown always fair catch with room?

tony hipchest
10-13-2013, 01:03 PM
dong

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 01:03 PM
Screen isn't going to work if Velasco cuts in front of the runner

OX1947
10-13-2013, 01:04 PM
This half went by quick.

pczach
10-13-2013, 01:05 PM
Screen isn't going to work if Velasco cuts in front of the runner

He was late getting to his block.

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 01:05 PM
why does brown always fair catch with room?

Probably because the coaches have told him to only return when he has tons of daylight. Can't afford to get him hurt.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 01:05 PM
Sigh. Offisdes. Just keep shooting themselves in the foot

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 01:06 PM
Brown gets it for the 1st - nice

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 01:06 PM
Brown is a stud!

fer522
10-13-2013, 01:06 PM
Wallace who

Lady Steel
10-13-2013, 01:06 PM
Nice catch by Antonio. Thanks for holding onto the ball, too.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 01:07 PM
Nice protection for Ben - gave him time. Too bad they can't play like that all the time.

OX1947
10-13-2013, 01:07 PM
Can anyone say, Super Bowl? Yes I am!

Atlanta Dan
10-13-2013, 01:07 PM
Brown fights for the catch like Wallace would not

Nice catch

SteelersCanada
10-13-2013, 01:07 PM
AB is a heck'uva WR. He can be inconsistent.

Speaking of inconsistent - OLINE, WHY DON'T YOU PLAY LIKE THAT ALL THE TIME?!

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 01:07 PM
96 is pushing it with his late hits. Seriously, if those hits were on Manning or Marcia, there would have been more laundry on the field than on my daughter's bedroom floor!

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 01:08 PM
Not sure if Ben is going to be able to finish the game at this point. He's getting crushed on every play.

SteelCity4Life
10-13-2013, 01:08 PM
If you think our OL is not the problem, you're blind as hell. Ben is gonna get hurt worse if this shit keeps up.

What was up with Cromartie? He was down and still fighting with Brown. That didn't look right.

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 01:08 PM
AB is a heck'uva WR. He can be inconsistent.

Speaking of inconsistent - OLINE, WHY DON'T YOU PLAY LIKE THAT ALL THE TIME?!

Yep, and they're doing it against a tough d-line too!

Atlanta Dan
10-13-2013, 01:08 PM
Ben is getting the crap beat out of him

tony hipchest
10-13-2013, 01:08 PM
Just gotta say bill cow her is freaking excellent in the booth. Informative and great an natural timing.

SteelersCanada
10-13-2013, 01:09 PM
Is it me or is Ben getting hit late almost every time without a flag? OLine is holding up, but he's taking those shots after the throw. It's bullshit.

43Hitman
10-13-2013, 01:09 PM
Just gotta say bill cow her is freaking excellent in the booth. Informative and great an natural timing.

I was thinking the same thing. He's a natural fit.

SteeleReign
10-13-2013, 01:09 PM
Just gotta say bill cow her is freaking excellent in the booth. Informative and great an natural timing.

Maybe he can permanently replace Simms. He's almost as bad as Collinsworth with his dripping Steelers hatred.

NYC_Steeler
10-13-2013, 01:09 PM
Nice. Another 1st down to Brown