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IowaSteeler927
12-26-2013, 01:49 AM
So I'm new to Hockey. I've always enjoyed watching it, been to a couple of Des Moines Buccaneers games way back when but I honestly kind of forgot about it until recently I started watching some highlights and came to the realization that I am missing out on so much awesome. I've always liked watching Sidney Crosby play so naturally I'm going to call myself a Pens fan now.

Curious if anyone would be interested in helping me gain a firmer understanding of the game. If someone has something that could explain to me the rules and regs that would be greatly appreciated. I'm planning on adding the sports package to my Directv so I can watch the Pens game tomorrow against the Carolina Hurricanes. Actually watching full on games is probably the best way to learn is what I'm guessing.

A buddy of mine is a die hard Flyers fan (big rivalry, that much I know) so he's been actually helping me out a little bit. Tried to convince me to be a Flyers fan, but I just felt like the Pens are my team so I solidified my fanship by asking for a Crosby jersey for Christmas (which I did receive). Let's just say my friend was none too impressed, but I'm sure he'll get over it. One thing I've noticed so far is just how many fans seem to despise Sidney Crosby. From what I've gathered seems like a lot of jealous BS. Accusing him of taking dives, and calling him a crybaby. Somehow I doubt the Crosby haters would be hating him so much if he played for their team.

Well I will say I am looking forward to catching this next game and really digging my teeth into hockey. Here's a pic of me in my new Crosby jersey that I posted on my facebook, accompanied by my friend's response.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j99/zclary923/pensflyersrivalry_zps20747d0d.jpg (http://s78.photobucket.com/user/zclary923/media/pensflyersrivalry_zps20747d0d.jpg.html)

Bayz101
12-26-2013, 01:51 AM
I'm on the same boat. Pens all the way though!

IowaSteeler927
12-26-2013, 01:53 AM
I'm on the same boat. Pens all the way though!

Hell yeah! Go Pens!

I'm excited to start watching. I've got a lot to learn yet but I think some hands on time watching games is going to be the best learning tool.

SteelCityMom
12-26-2013, 09:42 AM
Welcome to the dark side!! :chuckle:

Some hands on time will definitely help the most in learning the rules. NHL.com has a great set up for learning the basic rules though. And I had posted here about some of the new rules that have been implemented this year (the one that affects the game the most is the hybrid icing). http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=100836

Here is the rulebook, if you get confused on anything and need to look it up:

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/pdfs/2013-14rulebook-update.pdf

They also have a video rulebook set up on there, which will probably be more useful to you to get an idea of the basic rules (anything obscure is usually explained by the announcers).

http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=68553

And even further, they have a Learning Center, which is geared more towards players and coaches...but if you want to learn more about the X's and O's of the game, it's a good start. Some of it can only be viewed by purchasing the premium content, but it looks like there's plenty of good info available for free.

http://www.flexxcoach.com/learningcenter/

HFBoards is a great place to go as well (though I don't frequent it as much as I used to). They not only have separate forum sections for each NHL team, but for most leagues...major, minor and international. They also have some good sections on the history of hockey (classic games and discussions) and analytics, draft stuff, trades and whatnot....for if you get more into the game itself.

http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/


As to the rivalry with the Flyers, they actually did a series this year called NHL Rivals, and each episode features the history and/or current rivalry of two teams. They have been showcasing Wednesday Night Rivalries on NBCSN, and these episodes accompany those games. The Pens have been in 3 episodes so far (Flyers, Rangers, Capitols), but the only one on YouTube is the (thankfully) the Flyers one. It's good stuff. I was a fan of the Pens before the "Battle of Pennsylvania" really got going. It didn't really start until the late 80's when the Pens started to become successful. It has become one of the best rivalries in hockey, and in sports.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsJEFAX5fQc

Also, if you want some behind the scenes look into the Pens, they do episodes called "Inside the Room" about once a month during the season (they are in the third season of doing this). They are all available on the Pens NHL site. http://penguins.nhl.com/club/page.htm?id=93332 (that link is for previous seasons, but they have the current one up as well, just go to current episode and scroll down if you are interested). There's a lot of good info on their site as well about the history of the team and current goings on if you are interested.


I hope you enjoy the game as much as I have over the years, and if you have any questions, feel free to ask!

SteelCityMom
12-26-2013, 09:51 AM
Oh, and SCREW Hartnell. That should be one of the first things you learn as a Pens fan. He's an soulless little ginger with Ronald McDonald hair, and he bites people in scrums.

I will admit that there was reason in the past to call Sid a whiner. When he was first in the league (at 18), he did some over complaining to the refs...no true Pens fan will deny that. (they actually touch on it in the rivalry episode) But he grew up quick. Most of it now is jealous BS. And he FEEDS off of it. I absolutely adore it when they chant "Crosby sucks" in Philthy, and then he scores. It's insanely satisfying.

And yes, not a single person would complain if he was on their team. He is a once in a lifetime player.

Here's some random awesome videos for when you have time (some of them are long).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIp9QW6MR-o

(2013 just means when the person made the video, it's an overall compilation though)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQIGjxq11B8

(From 2008)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFs-foMbuEo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9UUTqVfBtw


And of course... the dryer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOemZRrCqpg

sluggermatt15
12-26-2013, 03:01 PM
You are correct the best way to learn the game is to watch it. I would first read about it. i.e. the basic rules, penalties, etc. Wikipedia is pretty good with those topics.

Good ways to learn about teams is to follow them via their websites. Read the news, updates, familiarize yourself with their roster & players. I would even also suggest scanning through the team's history.

I hope this supplements what SC Mom provided above - great job there!

SteelersCanada
12-26-2013, 06:52 PM
Well, you came to the right place. SteelCityMom knows her stuff in the Pens forum which is pretty active on game days. Plus I'm Canadian which means, ya know, hockey and stuff.

I think a good idea would be to hop into that thread tomorrow during the game and talk about what you're seeing live and ask any questions. I know I'll be in there watching it to help you out as best I can.

It's honestly right up there with football in entertainment value.

stb_steeler
12-26-2013, 07:13 PM
So I'm new to Hockey. I've always enjoyed watching it, been to a couple of Des Moines Buccaneers games way back when but I honestly kind of forgot about it until recently I started watching some highlights and came to the realization that I am missing out on so much awesome. I've always liked watching Sidney Crosby play so naturally I'm going to call myself a Pens fan now.

Curious if anyone would be interested in helping me gain a firmer understanding of the game. If someone has something that could explain to me the rules and regs that would be greatly appreciated. I'm planning on adding the sports package to my Directv so I can watch the Pens game tomorrow against the Carolina Hurricanes. Actually watching full on games is probably the best way to learn is what I'm guessing.

A buddy of mine is a die hard Flyers fan (big rivalry, that much I know) so he's been actually helping me out a little bit. Tried to convince me to be a Flyers fan, but I just felt like the Pens are my team so I solidified my fanship by asking for a Crosby jersey for Christmas (which I did receive). Let's just say my friend was none too impressed, but I'm sure he'll get over it. One thing I've noticed so far is just how many fans seem to despise Sidney Crosby. From what I've gathered seems like a lot of jealous BS. Accusing him of taking dives, and calling him a crybaby. Somehow I doubt the Crosby haters would be hating him so much if he played for their team.

Well I will say I am looking forward to catching this next game and really digging my teeth into hockey. Here's a pic of me in my new Crosby jersey that I posted on my facebook, accompanied by my friend's response.

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j99/zclary923/pensflyersrivalry_zps20747d0d.jpg (http://s78.photobucket.com/user/zclary923/media/pensflyersrivalry_zps20747d0d.jpg.html)

I tried explaining hockey to my wife, what a train wreck. I told her get a pair of skates and hit the local rink, maybe some hits will drive it in her lol.

IowaSteeler927
12-27-2013, 01:52 AM
Thanks for the help! It's greatly appreciated. Excited to watch the game tonight!

stb_steeler
12-27-2013, 01:19 PM
Thanks for the help! It's greatly appreciated. Excited to watch the game tonight!

Glad to see ya chose Pens :wink02:
If you want to visit some great Pens boards check out FB Pittsburgh Penguins Private
Ask Shawn Duncan to add you, its a great private Pens board. (No BS allowed).

vasteeler
12-27-2013, 07:02 PM
should of went with the flyers!!!:couch:

and i think a member here has started pensfever.com, i think thats the correct site

IowaSteeler927
12-27-2013, 07:51 PM
With guys who bite people and smack their own teammates in the face with their stick? Sorry, I'll stick with the Pens. LoL. I can't say too much cause I'm a noob but I'm learning some things here and there.

I'm streaming the game right now. If anyone else is interested:

http://nutjob.eu/njtvx19.html

IowaSteeler927
12-27-2013, 08:42 PM
PENS WIN IN OT 4-3!!!! James Neal with the game winning goal. Good back and forth game. Pens looked a little flat at some points but they came up big when they needed to the most.

stb_steeler
12-27-2013, 09:20 PM
Very slow effort considering Canes on a 7 game losing streak.
Crosby shuffles to Neal 3-4 times, finally gets the game winner.
Any how Fluery gets his 500 game....:applaudit:

IowaSteeler927
12-27-2013, 11:23 PM
Fluery definitey kept the Pens in the game. They gave up a few points but the Canes were spending a ton of time in the Pens zone and getting a lot of shots off.

sluggermatt15
12-29-2013, 01:38 PM
PENS WIN IN OT 4-3!!!! James Neal with the game winning goal. Good back and forth game. Pens looked a little flat at some points but they came up big when they needed to the most.

Pittsburgh has a tendency to relinquish the lead late in games. It happened Friday night and on other occasions throughout the season. Yeah they still won, but it would be great to see this team develop an iron grip on 1 or 2 goal leads late in the game (or in the third period). I think that is an aspect of the game that strong defensive teams control like Boston, the NY Rangers, among others. Part of my thinking is their style of play: Pittsburgh likes to score, score, score. Concentrating much of puck control on going up and down the ice kind of takes away from defense. We've seen this team get burned doing that. i.e. versus the Islanders at CONSOL earlier in the season. Maybe when the defense is fully healthy the team will focus on this a little more.

IowaSteeler927
12-29-2013, 02:24 PM
Pittsburgh has a tendency to relinquish the lead late in games. It happened Friday night and on other occasions throughout the season. Yeah they still won, but it would be great to see this team develop an iron grip on 1 or 2 goal leads late in the game (or in the third period). I think that is an aspect of the game that strong defensive teams control like Boston, the NY Rangers, among others. Part of my thinking is their style of play: Pittsburgh likes to score, score, score. Concentrating much of puck control on going up and down the ice kind of takes away from defense. We've seen this team get burned doing that. i.e. versus the Islanders at CONSOL earlier in the season. Maybe when the defense is fully healthy the team will focus on this a little more.

It would be nice to see a Pens team that's healthy. It's obvious the injuries are causing some struggles.

stb_steeler
12-29-2013, 08:58 PM
With key injuries Balyma has to adjust the D and all the line shifts at bad timing is why we have trouble with Rangers, Boston Ect.

sluggermatt15
12-30-2013, 09:41 AM
It would be nice to see a Pens team that's healthy. It's obvious the injuries are causing some struggles.

That's the thing, the Penguins have played well without being fully healthy. A lot of their younger players have stepped in and it looks like they have not missed a beat. But I agree it would be great for the team to have the quantity of injuries decrease relatively soon. They will need it.

IowaSteeler927
12-30-2013, 10:25 AM
Yeah I supposed you're not in 1st Place in the Metropolitan divison without everyone playing pretty well. It'd just be scary to think how good they'd be at full health.

NSMaster56
12-30-2013, 02:39 PM
A great way to learn about [the basics or semi-complexities of] hockey is playing the video games.

That's how I did it growing up (Thanks NHLPA 93 and NHL 94!) as I was not in a major market.

The NHL series is great.

IowaSteeler927
01-01-2014, 12:57 AM
A great way to learn about [the basics or semi-complexities of] hockey is playing the video games.

That's how I did it growing up (Thanks NHLPA 93 and NHL 94!) as I was not in a major market.

The NHL series is great.

Yeah I'm thinking about picking up a copy. I wish they brought it out on the Xbox One!

Lokki
04-09-2014, 09:42 AM
Somehow I missed this thread. Welcome aboard, Iowa!! I've been a Pens fan for a loooooooooong time. I don't post as much in this area as I do the rest of the board, but I still love the Pens. I'm assuming that you've picked up more on hockey between then and now. Just hold on to your seat. Playoff hockey is a great time.

Vis
04-09-2014, 10:26 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm_GMpVCoiA

CanSteel7
04-09-2014, 10:33 AM
Being a Canadian myself, there is some good advise on here. Reading about the rules though, may actually cause you to loose interest very quickly, especially with all the technical terms that they probably use on the websites explaining them. Haven't really looked at them, but I can just imagine what they are like. You're best bet it to watch the game with someone who knows it and will be able to explain to you in laymen's terms what is going on and the rules at the same time.

The best time to watch is in the playoffs because the game gets faster, more exciting at the same time. Especially watch the first round match-ups because they are usually the best as well. I also love it when it goes into sudden death overtime-first team to score, wins! I have to say of all the sports, I really enjoy playoff hockey the most, followed by football, although, overall, football is still my favourite sport.

SteelCityMom
04-09-2014, 10:59 AM
Being a Canadian myself, there is some good advise on here. Reading about the rules though, may actually cause you to loose interest very quickly, especially with all the technical terms that they probably use on the websites explaining them. Haven't really looked at them, but I can just imagine what they are like. You're best bet it to watch the game with someone who knows it and will be able to explain to you in laymen's terms what is going on and the rules at the same time.

The best time to watch is in the playoffs because the game gets faster, more exciting at the same time. Especially watch the first round match-ups because they are usually the best as well. I also love it when it goes into sudden death overtime-first team to score, wins! I have to say of all the sports, I really enjoy playoff hockey the most, followed by football, although, overall, football is still my favourite sport.

What's nice is the video clips for the rules that they have now (I posted the link somewhere back there). They show in game examples of the rules. But yeah, the best way to get acclimated to the rules is by watching the games. Most are not that hard to pick up.

Lokki
04-09-2014, 12:38 PM
I think I teared up during this back in the day.. I was rooting for the Avalanche to win it for Ray Bourque. The Avs had an awesome team back then with Sakic, Forsberg, Roy, Fleury, etc... But it was such an awesome moment for Bourque.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-adnOYdqJg

Lokki
04-09-2014, 12:42 PM
Highlights from that game.. still gives me chills..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGvYEolYzgs

Vis
04-09-2014, 12:45 PM
The Avs look good again.

Lokki
04-09-2014, 12:46 PM
The Avs look good again.

They do. The Pens are my team, but I still have a soft spot for the Avs. I'm glad to see them coming around again.

CanSteel7
04-09-2014, 03:54 PM
They do. The Pens are my team, but I still have a soft spot for the Avs. I'm glad to see them coming around again.

The only thing with the Pens is their goal tending. Not sure what you are going to get with Fleury(sorry if spelled wrong).

Lokki
04-09-2014, 04:04 PM
The only thing with the Pens is their goal tending. Not sure what you are going to get with Fleury(sorry if spelled wrong).

Goal tending and Goal Scoring seem to go into the crapper once the Pens hit the playoffs. I don't know what it is with them, but it drives me nuts. The series with the Bruins last year was garbage.