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Y-townFinFan
09-05-2006, 07:23 PM
Haven't seen many Dolphin fans post here over the last few days, and I'm suprised not much from the Steelers fans on the Fin sites :boxing: Anyway, after reading through the many posts and comments, I would like to say a few things.:blah: In every fan site there is the RAH-RAH types, and then there are the true football fans who like to talk honest football. I'm not a RAH-RAH fan, I'm an honest football fan who just happens to be a hard core FINFAN. I think the Dolphins will beat the Steelers with ease. I also think the exact opposite could happen and the Steelers will win.

I am really bummed that Ben is out, I wanted Pitts best on the field. I want Hines to be 100%. I want Porter to be the fans "self proclaimed" Bad A$$ that he is supposed to be.

How else can any team fan judge their favorite team, and how they will do this season, if they can't measure the performance against the World Champs?

I don't make projections or talk much trash, because, it's pointless! Fun, yes. to come here and aggravate all of you, not going to get much reasonable football talk by doing that. So, I'm going to rate each area of each team and give my opinion on who's better, all you have to do is agree or disagree!!:boxing:

Here goes!

QB C-Pep vs Batch : C-Pep wins by virtue of his pure talent and size. Batch is a backup for a reason.

RB Brown vs Parker : Parker exploded last year for 5- 100 yard games (TEN, HOU, CINCY, CLEVE, and Det) while averaging 80.1 yards a game. Explosive and very fast.
Brown, gets the load in his second year, but can get the homerun. This vote goes to Parker due to the O=line and scheme, plus he's darn fast!

O-line MIA vs PITT : Pitt by a longshot, Mia is a work in progress at run blocking, but can protect the QB in pass plays

TE's : I'll call this a push, because both starters should be pro bowl bound this year!

WR's : Ward is a beast, Chambers has hands of glue! The Fins get more opportunities and the Steelers make good use of theirs. I'll give a slight edge to Miami because of Booker, who made the pro bowl a few years ago, but the edge is really slight.

D-Line : Pitt has been awsome, but the Fins don't give much. This one goes to Pitt based on past performance, not on projections.

LB's : Porter vs Zach - Porter is younger, faster and stronger, but that is what Zach has overcome his whole carrer, Miami is younger overall so this goes to Pitt.

Secondary: This is the Steelers weak point sans Polamula (sp?) I'll take the preseason starter numbers here , the Fins scheme overcomes all. Fins by a nose.

SPT : Both play well on coverage, Wes Welker vs a Randle El less team, I'll take the Fins due to the Steelers loss, not their ability.

Overall, this game could come down to the last minute. I just hope all our players finish healthy to play the next week. MAY the BETTER TEAM WIN:bouncy:

Y-Town

clevestinks
09-05-2006, 07:35 PM
Y-town, welcome and good points.

One thing that is common amongst football annalyst, is that the game is won in trenches, who controls the line of scrimmage. And per your annalysis, we win on both sides, advantage us.

We also have home field advantage, not to mention the first game in the Burgh after the Super bowl victory. adv. US.

I think we have the better coaching now, i believe that the dolphins coaches are really good and getting better.

I really think we win by a TD, knowing Cowher we`ll get up by, and he`ll get consevative which will bring the game closer.

Nothing against the fins, they are up and coming, just to many intangibles for this week.

Y-townFinFan
09-05-2006, 07:48 PM
It was hard to judge the O-lines from both teams, because neither played well this preseason. The D-line has changed for the Fins (much bigger) and it's hard to tell whats going to happen due to the 3-4, 4-3 changes made all the time. I based my opinion on Pitts past performance, which has been very good on both sides. However, I don't think either team will win by more than 3. If one team wins by 7 or more, it's a good gauge for the years first half.

Y-Town

paw-n-maul-u
09-05-2006, 07:48 PM
Haven't seen many Dolphin fans post here over the last few days, and I'm suprised not much from the Steelers fans on the Fin sites :boxing: Anyway, after reading through the many posts and comments, I would like to say a few things.:blah: In every fan site there is the RAH-RAH types, and then there are the true football fans who like to talk honest football. I'm not a RAH-RAH fan, I'm an honest football fan who just happens to be a hard core FINFAN. I think the Dolphins will beat the Steelers with ease. I also think the exact opposite could happen and the Steelers will win.

I am really bummed that Ben is out, I wanted Pitts best on the field. I want Hines to be 100%. I want Porter to be the fans "self proclaimed" Bad A$$ that he is supposed to be.

How else can any team fan judge their favorite team, and how they will do this season, if they can't measure the performance against the World Champs?

I don't make projections or talk much trash, because, it's pointless! Fun, yes. to come here and aggravate all of you, not going to get much reasonable football talk by doing that. So, I'm going to rate each area of each team and give my opinion on who's better, all you have to do is agree or disagree!!:boxing:

Here goes!

QB C-Pep vs Batch : C-Pep wins by virtue of his pure talent and size. Batch is a backup for a reason.

RB Brown vs Parker : Parker exploded last year for 5- 100 yard games (TEN, HOU, CINCY, CLEVE, and Det) while averaging 80.1 yards a game. Explosive and very fast.
Brown, gets the load in his second year, but can get the homerun. This vote goes to Parker due to the O=line and scheme, plus he's darn fast!

O-line MIA vs PITT : Pitt by a longshot, Mia is a work in progress at run blocking, but can protect the QB in pass plays

TE's : I'll call this a push, because both starters should be pro bowl bound this year!

WR's : Ward is a beast, Chambers has hands of glue! The Fins get more opportunities and the Steelers make good use of theirs. I'll give a slight edge to Miami because of Booker, who made the pro bowl a few years ago, but the edge is really slight.

D-Line : Pitt has been awsome, but the Fins don't give much. This one goes to Pitt based on past performance, not on projections.

LB's : Porter vs Zach - Porter is younger, faster and stronger, but that is what Zach has overcome his whole carrer, Miami is younger overall so this goes to Pitt.

Secondary: This is the Steelers weak point sans Polamula (sp?) I'll take the preseason starter numbers here , the Fins scheme overcomes all. Fins by a nose.

SPT : Both play well on coverage, Wes Welker vs a Randle El less team, I'll take the Fins due to the Steelers loss, not their ability.

Overall, this game could come down to the last minute. I just hope all our players finish healthy to play the next week. MAY the BETTER TEAM WIN:bouncy:

Y-Town

I agree with you on most of the things, although I don't know why you are preaching to the steelers (maybe you are a closet steeler fan, I don't know) ... But I do have to disagree with you on a few things:

#1: The Steelers secondary is extremely underrated, esp. these past two years with the emergence of Ike and Troy, people are still caught up in the early 2000's with the likes of dwayne washington, etc. ... Fins secondary was completely depleted and the only guy i really liked in there (Poole) was released due to injury

#2: Ronnie Brown is going to be a beast this year (atleast I hope so considering I spent my first pick in my fantasy league on him) ... however, there are still questions surrounding both backs which is pretty much the same for both: Can they carry the full load?? I for one, am not a willie parker fan at all and would trade ten willie parkers for a quarter of the potential of a ronnie brown ... parker racked up all his yards last year in 5 games ... against teams that are notorious for not being able to stop the run ... I mean honestly ... houston, cincy, DETRIOT!?!?! ... TENNESSEE!!??!?! ... brown gets the edge by a long shot ... oh and another thing that I want to get off my chest ... willie parker holds a record for the longest run in the superbowl because he happened to be really fast and went through a whole that you could drive a dump truck through and then beat an OUT OF POSITION BACK-UP SAFETY ... the starter was hurt earlier in the game

#3: I don't understand what was so impressive with the fins late season run last year ... Their only victim that had a winning record was the Chargers and LT had cracked ribs for the last 6 weeks of the regular season (this I know because his piss-poor play caused me my fantasy league championship last year) ... I hate to break it to ya but as scary as teams like Oakland, Buffalo, NYJ, Cleveland, Tennessee, and a Tom Brady-less patriots (which I'm pretty sure could then be compared to a JV High School team) ... well ... Ill just stop there

lastly ... I'm all for your love and support for the greater good and health of football in general ... but I hope that we absolutley crush the dolphins

clevestinks
09-05-2006, 07:50 PM
It was hard to judge the O-lines from both teams, because neither played well this preseason. The D-line has changed for the Fins (much bigger) and it's hard to tell whats going to happen due to the 3-4, 4-3 changes made all the time. I based my opinion on Pitts past performance, which has been very good on both sides. However, I don't think either team will win by more than 3. If one team wins by 7 or more, it's a good gauge for the years first half.

Y-Town

Until we get our starting QB back, we won`t be able to guage as well as the fins. I am definitley not taking the fins lightly!

BlackNGold203
09-05-2006, 07:59 PM
Good post Y-town..

one serious omission in my humble....

You compare the LB's as Porter vs Thomas...

Farrior, Foote and Haggens against.....???

You may neutralize Peasy..but if you do...the other 3 are gonna go wild...HUGE advantage Steelers...an advantage that has won us a ton of games, and may likely win us this one as well...:cool: :cool:

jaysta
09-05-2006, 08:04 PM
I do agree that this game will be closer than many Steelers fans think. Ronnie Brown is a tank on wheels that we can slow down, but if he gets near the end zone it'll be tough to keep him out. In the end though Pittsburgh will have just enough of an edge to win. I stand by the Steelers winning 24-21.

Y-townFinFan
09-05-2006, 08:17 PM
I agree with you on most of the things, although I don't know why you are preaching to the steelers (maybe you are a closet steeler fan, I don't know) ... But I do have to disagree with you on a few things:

#1: The Steelers secondary is extremely underrated, esp. these past two years with the emergence of Ike and Troy, people are still caught up in the early 2000's with the likes of dwayne washington, etc. ... Fins secondary was completely depleted and the only guy i really liked in there (Poole) was released due to injury

#2: Ronnie Brown is going to be a beast this year (atleast I hope so considering I spent my first pick in my fantasy league on him) ... however, there are still questions surrounding both backs which is pretty much the same for both: Can they carry the full load?? I for one, am not a willie parker fan at all and would trade ten willie parkers for a quarter of the potential of a ronnie brown ... parker racked up all his yards last year in 5 games ... against teams that are notorious for not being able to stop the run ... I mean honestly ... houston, cincy, DETRIOT!?!?! ... TENNESSEE!!??!?! ... brown gets the edge by a long shot ... oh and another thing that I want to get off my chest ... willie parker holds a record for the longest run in the superbowl because he happened to be really fast and went through a whole that you could drive a dump truck through and then beat an OUT OF POSITION BACK-UP SAFETY ... the starter was hurt earlier in the game

#3: I don't understand what was so impressive with the fins late season run last year ... Their only victim that had a winning record was the Chargers and LT had cracked ribs for the last 6 weeks of the regular season (this I know because his piss-poor play caused me my fantasy league championship last year) ... I hate to break it to ya but as scary as teams like Oakland, Buffalo, NYJ, Cleveland, Tennessee, and a Tom Brady-less patriots (which I'm pretty sure could then be compared to a JV High School team) ... well ... Ill just stop there

lastly ... I'm all for your love and support for the greater good and health of football in general ... but I hope that we absolutley crush the dolphins

Just a quick reply: #1- Never said the Steelers secondary was bad or good, just a week point , which I based on past play. It's not a knock, just an observation. Troy is a beast, but where was he in the bowl? The Hawks took him out of the game, not that it mattered.

# 2 Hope your RIGHT about Ronnie, but the O-line has to play better. I'm glad you caught the big games for Parker I put in!!!

# 3 I never mentioned last years run, at all.?.

Y-townFinFan
09-05-2006, 08:20 PM
Good post Y-town..

one serious omission in my humble....

You compare the LB's as Porter vs Thomas...

Farrior, Foote and Haggens against.....???

You may neutralize Peasy..but if you do...the other 3 are gonna go wild...HUGE advantage Steelers...an advantage that has won us a ton of games, and may likely win us this one as well...:cool: :cool:

While I didn't mention your other vet LB's, They are why I rated them better.

paw-n-maul-u
09-05-2006, 08:23 PM
Just a quick reply: #1- Never said the Steelers secondary was bad or good, just a week point , which I based on past play. It's not a knock, just an observation. Troy is a beast, but where was he in the bowl? The Hawks took him out of the game, not that it mattered.

# 2 Hope your RIGHT about Ronnie, but the O-line has to play better. I'm glad you caught the big games for Parker I put in!!!

# 3 I never mentioned last years run, at all.?.

your right ... what I should have had at number three was ... I don't feel that you should even be comparing a team of the steelers calibur to the dolphins given their ... well ... NOT so impressive run at the end of the season ... haha jk ...

... but no really

Stlrs4Life
09-05-2006, 08:33 PM
Hey Y-town. What part of Y-Town are you from? I work in Lordstown, and grew up around Y-Town here accross the border in Pa.

SteelCzar76
09-05-2006, 08:48 PM
Haven't seen many Dolphin fans post here over the last few days, and I'm suprised not much from the Steelers fans on the Fin sites :boxing: Anyway, after reading through the many posts and comments, I would like to say a few things.:blah: In every fan site there is the RAH-RAH types, and then there are the true football fans who like to talk honest football. I'm not a RAH-RAH fan, I'm an honest football fan who just happens to be a hard core FINFAN. I think the Dolphins will beat the Steelers with ease. I also think the exact opposite could happen and the Steelers will win.

I am really bummed that Ben is out, I wanted Pitts best on the field. I want Hines to be 100%. I want Porter to be the fans "self proclaimed" Bad A$$ that he is supposed to be.

How else can any team fan judge their favorite team, and how they will do this season, if they can't measure the performance against the World Champs?

I don't make projections or talk much trash, because, it's pointless! Fun, yes. to come here and aggravate all of you, not going to get much reasonable football talk by doing that. So, I'm going to rate each area of each team and give my opinion on who's better, all you have to do is agree or disagree!!:boxing:

Here goes!

QB C-Pep vs Batch : C-Pep wins by virtue of his pure talent and size. Batch is a backup for a reason.

RB Brown vs Parker : Parker exploded last year for 5- 100 yard games (TEN, HOU, CINCY, CLEVE, and Det) while averaging 80.1 yards a game. Explosive and very fast.
Brown, gets the load in his second year, but can get the homerun. This vote goes to Parker due to the O=line and scheme, plus he's darn fast!

O-line MIA vs PITT : Pitt by a longshot, Mia is a work in progress at run blocking, but can protect the QB in pass plays

TE's : I'll call this a push, because both starters should be pro bowl bound this year!

WR's : Ward is a beast, Chambers has hands of glue! The Fins get more opportunities and the Steelers make good use of theirs. I'll give a slight edge to Miami because of Booker, who made the pro bowl a few years ago, but the edge is really slight.

D-Line : Pitt has been awsome, but the Fins don't give much. This one goes to Pitt based on past performance, not on projections.

LB's : Porter vs Zach - Porter is younger, faster and stronger, but that is what Zach has overcome his whole carrer, Miami is younger overall so this goes to Pitt.

Secondary: This is the Steelers weak point sans Polamula (sp?) I'll take the preseason starter numbers here , the Fins scheme overcomes all. Fins by a nose.

SPT : Both play well on coverage, Wes Welker vs a Randle El less team, I'll take the Fins due to the Steelers loss, not their ability.

Overall, this game could come down to the last minute. I just hope all our players finish healthy to play the next week. MAY the BETTER TEAM WIN:bouncy:

Y-Town

Qb : I'll Give you that.

Rb : Please believe it,....Willie will be the deciding factor.

Ol : No contest,... we have the best in the league.

TE : Advantage,....Us,.... Heath is a better Blocker

WR : I'll Give you that.

D- line: Advantage us,....you will gain no more than 70 yards rushing.

Lb : Stop Playin,...we don't have a single starter that's not a stud. Yeah,... Foote's a little undersized,....but he more than makes up for that with motor and intensity. Advantage us.

Secondary : I'll give you that. (Son of a,...) LOL

Spt : Push

Outcome: You come out the Tunnel trying to spread the field with some success. We create turnovers,....Willie kill's you on screens and or,....believe it or not,.....right between the Tackles. To keep it simple,.....advantage us,.....24-17. I agree (grudgingly) that it will be much closer than it should,....and that's only because of our "underated" lol,....secondary. (Disclaimer: this sarcasm,...in no way includes Troy Polamalu, Rod Woodson, Carnell Lake, Darren Perry, Deion Figures (Pre Gunshot wound) and a young Willie Williams.) Lmao

"May the God's Decide"

"Hail Caesar,.....Hail the Black and Gold"

Y-townFinFan
09-05-2006, 08:54 PM
Hey Y-town. What part of Y-Town are you from? I work in Lordstown, and grew up around Y-Town here accross the border in Pa.

West Side, Spend alot of time around Tionesta Pa

CantStop85
09-05-2006, 08:55 PM
I think this game comes down to Daunte Culpepper. If Culpepper plays like the Culpepper of Minnesota's glory days then I think the Dolphins have a huge advantage, however if Culpepper plays like last year's version the Steelers will have the edge.

Y-townFinFan
09-05-2006, 09:07 PM
Qb : I'll Give you that.

Rb : Please believe it,....Willie will be the deciding factor.

Ol : No contest,... we have the best in the league.

TE : Advantage,....Us,.... Heath is a better Blocker

WR : I'll Give you that.

D- line: Advantage us,....you will gain no more than 70 yards rushing.

Lb : Stop Playin,...we don't have a single starter that's not a stud. Yeah,... Foote's a little undersized,....but he more than makes up for that with motor and intensity. Advantage us.

Secondary : I'll give you that. (Son of a,...) LOL

Spt : Push

Outcome: You come out the Tunnel trying to spread the field with some success. We create turnovers,....Willie kill's you on screens and or,....believe it or not,.....right between the Tackles. To keep it simple,.....advantage us,.....24-17. I agree (grudgingly) that it will be much closer than it should,....and that's only because of our "underated" lol,....secondary. (Disclaimer: this sarcasm,...in no way includes Troy Polamalu, Rod Woodson, Carnell Lake, Darren Perry, Deion Figures (Pre Gunshot wound) and a young Willie Williams.) Lmao

"May the God's Decide"

"Hail Caesar,.....Hail the Black and Gold"

I Love the dialog here!:dang: I think the Seahawks and Chiefs might argue with your O-line opinion! And I'm not sold on Parker either. His five games of 100 yards were against very poor teams (as noted), but he has a ton of speed. Your LBs are great, but Miami's are so young (other than Zach) they are hard to gauge. Our O-Line has not been good in preseason, but that will change come game time, so we'll se about your D-line.

I'll post my game theory tomorrow, for those interested.

paw-n-maul-u
09-05-2006, 09:32 PM
I Love the dialog here!:dang: I think the Seahawks and Chiefs might argue with your O-line opinion! And I'm not sold on Parker either. His five games of 100 yards were against very poor teams (as noted), but he has a ton of speed. Your LBs are great, but Miami's are so young (other than Zach) they are hard to gauge. Our O-Line has not been good in preseason, but that will change come game time, so we'll se about your D-line.

I'll post my game theory tomorrow, for those interested.

lol what ?????? chiefs and seahawks arguing??? ... both just lost the best linemen on their respective teams ... hutchinson and roaf ... our D-line will engulf your o-line and peezy, farrior, foote, and haggans will get atleast 3 or 4 sacks in there collectively ... I'm also feeling a sack from Kiesel ... but probably so are a lot of other people ... the best comparison i could give you in regards to your 0-line is wet TP ... and if you run the ball ... ronnie brown is going to go "oh sh*t, i forgot the steelers had the best YPC average for a defense in stopping the run"

our offense will struggle a bit i feel ... but we should still pull it out ... 17-10 pitt

SteelCzar76
09-05-2006, 09:51 PM
I Love the dialog here!:dang: I think the Seahawks and Chiefs might argue with your O-line opinion! And I'm not sold on Parker either. His five games of 100 yards were against very poor teams (as noted), but he has a ton of speed. Your LBs are great, but Miami's are so young (other than Zach) they are hard to gauge. Our O-Line has not been good in preseason, but that will change come game time, so we'll se about your D-line.

I'll post my game theory tomorrow, for those interested.




Yes Fin,.. some might argue weather or not the Hawk's or the Chiefs have the Best O-lines. But in terms of Physicality and or Will,... i'd say we have the edge. In regards to Willie,,.. i don't think your taking his upside into consideration. Last year was his first full season as a starter since High School. And he performed well,... (at League level ! )
Have you considered the fact that he's worked harder in terms of conditioning this offseason,....knowing the expectations that have been "placed on his plate" (so to speak) ?
I look forward to him (Parker) proving himself as elite back this year. (Dare i say 1500 yard's)
Your linebackers,...no,....your entire Defense has consistently been your greatest strength. But,... Coach Whiz will gameplan for your revamped secondary. ( Your lucky it's Batch and not Ben)
I won't judge your O-Line based on Preason Ball (Most of us are just trying to make it out injury free),......But i just don't think they will hold water against Coach lebeau's gameplan and the expierience of our guys up front.




"Hail Caesar,.....Hail the Black and Gold"


Oh yeah,....was the :dang: sarcasm ? LOL

stlrtruck
09-06-2006, 06:54 AM
Why do I bother entering this thread. Everyone has made the most relevant points and counter-points.

But I've got a few points I'd like to make.

One Culpepper will be the deciding factor for the Fins, not the game. I don't think he's seen a defense like this in a few years and he definitely hasn't taken a hit from the likes of Porter, Polamalu, Haggans, Foote, or the Diesel.

Two, I believe the Dolphins defense has speed to burn. It's been that way for the last few years. However, this speed is what's going to hurt them. They'll over pursue and then when the Steelers run the counter plays, you'll see a few players looking back like, "Oh, crap, that was my position"

Three, we may have lost Randle El but we gained two more players who are just as dangerous as he was on the punt and kick-off returns. And there's a chance that they could both be back there at any one time.

Four, all the experts say it can't be done (the repeat). We've already been picked to finish 8-8 and miss the playoffs. The bungles and the raisins have been predicted to finish better than us. We don't have a chance....oh wait, we didn't have one last year either.

Finally, let me remind you of what awaits anyone coming into Heinz Field - 75,000 fanatical fans there to cheer on the defending Super Bowl champs!!!!

HometownGal
09-06-2006, 08:38 AM
Here goes!

QB C-Pep vs Batch : C-Pep wins by virtue of his pure talent and size. Batch is a backup for a reason. While I can't totally disagree here, who knows which Culpepper we'll see - he's turned into quite the chameleon the past couple of years.

RB Brown vs Parker : Parker exploded last year for 5- 100 yard games (TEN, HOU, CINCY, CLEVE, and Det) while averaging 80.1 yards a game. Explosive and very fast.
Brown, gets the load in his second year, but can get the homerun. This vote goes to Parker due to the O=line and scheme, plus he's darn fast! For the moment, I'd have to call a draw here, but Pittsburgh definitely does have the advantage on the OL.

O-line MIA vs PITT : Pitt by a longshot, Mia is a work in progress at run blocking, but can protect the QB in pass plays Definitely agree.

TE's : I'll call this a push, because both starters should be pro bowl bound this year! Agreed.

WR's : Ward is a beast, Chambers has hands of glue! The Fins get more opportunities and the Steelers make good use of theirs. I'll give a slight edge to Miami because of Booker, who made the pro bowl a few years ago, but the edge is really slight. I have to disagree here for the simple reason that Hines can also be utilized to pass the football and with Wiz's bag o' tricks, you never know when it's coming. I think this alone makes the Steelers O far more dangerous. Cedric Ward isn't PB caliber yet, but he's quite talented and fits in well with the Steelers' O. Santonio and Willie Reid may just surprise the Fins, as well. I feel the best I have in years about the Steelers' WR corps.

D-Line : Pitt has been awsome, but the Fins don't give much. This one goes to Pitt based on past performance, not on projections. Most definitely, but the Fins' D should not be taken for granted.

LB's : Porter vs Zach - Porter is younger, faster and stronger, but that is what Zach has overcome his whole carrer, Miami is younger overall so this goes to Pitt. As has been noted, I don't think it is wise to take Farrior, Foote and Hagans lightly. Our LBs work great together as a unit - probably the best unit in the league. While Porter is an animal on the field, Farrior thrives on hitting hard and making sure that his opponents remember #51.

Secondary: This is the Steelers weak point sans Polamula (sp?) I'll take the preseason starter numbers here , the Fins scheme overcomes all. Fins by a nose. Let me tell you a story about a man named Ike. While it is true that he isn't quite in Troy's league just yet, he's coming along nicely and coming on strong. 75 tackles and 11 assisted tacks for the season, not to mention 6 solo tackles and an assist, plus an INT in the SB that knocked the wind out of the Hawks' sails, are some pretty good credentials going into this season. The nice chunk of change he just received is a huge motivator for Ike, too, imho. Look out!

SPT : Both play well on coverage, Wes Welker vs a Randle El less team, I'll take the Fins due to the Steelers loss, not their ability. Fair enough, but I wish people would stop talking about "our loss". Coke and Reid are quite capable of getting the job done and securing good field position for the O. I'm not worried there.

Overall, this game could come down to the last minute. I just hope all our players finish healthy to play the next week. MAY the BETTER TEAM WIN:bouncy: I totally agree with you here. I think it is going to be a close contest. I, too, hope both teams come out of the game healthy, but I have to digress here and say that I would prefer the Steelers come out happier than the Fins! :wink02: Good luck to you and the Dolphins and thanks for the great posts - I've really enjoyed them. :smile:
Y-Town[/QUOTE]

Stlrs4Life
09-06-2006, 04:37 PM
West Side, Spend alot of time around Tionesta Pa

Cool, we have a hunting camp up there in Tionesta.

4n2t0
09-06-2006, 04:57 PM
Like previously stated, almost all points were covered, but let's re-review the secondary. You edge the Dolphins? Is that the same team that allowed TD passes of 48, 51, 55, and 62 yards in the first two preseason games? Even though Pittsburgh's secondary is the weakest part of our defense atleast we aren't possibly the weakest unit in the league.

EDGE: PITTSBURGH, BY A ENDLESS CREVASSE OF SPACE!

MasterOfPuppets
09-06-2006, 05:27 PM
Just a quick reply: #1- Never said the Steelers secondary was bad or good, just a week point , which I based on past play. It's not a knock, just an observation. Troy is a beast, but where was he in the bowl? The Hawks took him out of the game, not that it mattered.

# 2 Hope your RIGHT about Ronnie, but the O-line has to play better. I'm glad you caught the big games for Parker I put in!!!
# 3 I never mentioned last years run, at all.?.


do me a favor,and pick out some of ronnie browns big games...:rolleyes: he had 2 games over 100 yds...and 1 was against the awesome saints...lol

VS. ATLANTA 1 12 67 5.6 15 0 5
VS. BUFFALO 2 26 119 4.6 28 0 5
VS. CAROLINA 1 23 132 5.7 58 1 5
VS. CLEVELAND 1 12 56 4.7 11 0 3
VS. DENVER 1 22 57 2.6 15 0 2
VS. KANSAS CITY 1 8 95 11.9 65 1 2
VS. NEW ENGLAND 2 22 85 3.9 16 0 4
VS. NEW ORLEANS 1 23 106 4.6 35 0 5
VS. NEW YORK JETS 2 24 80 3.3 12 0 4
VS. OAKLAND 1 15 58 3.9 14 1 3
VS. SAN DIEGO 1 11 30 2.7 9 0 1
VS. TAMPA BAY 1 9 22 2.4 8 1 2

Elvis
09-07-2006, 06:42 AM
The Dolphins are definitely gonna be improved, but if the Steelers had Ben tonight then I dont think the game would be as close as it will tonight now. Our running game has struggled for the last 6 or 7 games and we must fix that or we are gonna have a real hard time tonight when the Dolphins stack the line and make Batch make some plays...Good luck Phins fans but not this year...
God Bless
Elvis

Meister
09-07-2006, 10:56 AM
I agree with you on most of the things, although I don't know why you are preaching to the steelers (maybe you are a closet steeler fan, I don't know) ... But I do have to disagree with you on a few things:

#1: The Steelers secondary is extremely underrated, esp. these past two years with the emergence of Ike and Troy, people are still caught up in the early 2000's with the likes of dwayne washington, etc. ... Fins secondary was completely depleted and the only guy i really liked in there (Poole) was released due to injury

Both secondaries are going to live or die depending on how much pressure the front seven puts on the opposing QB. All Miami's secondary is going to be asked to do is keep the WRs in front of them and make solid tackles. People look at the change from last season to this and see the exodous of big names they recognize like Madison and Shulters. While the names are no longer present there has been a big upgrade in speed and ability. Whether that translates to better production on the field remains to be seen. In the preseason the starters didnt allow anything through the air.

#2: Ronnie Brown is going to be a beast this year (atleast I hope so considering I spent my first pick in my fantasy league on him) ... however, there are still questions surrounding both backs which is pretty much the same for both: Can they carry the full load?? I for one, am not a willie parker fan at all and would trade ten willie parkers for a quarter of the potential of a ronnie brown ... parker racked up all his yards last year in 5 games ... against teams that are notorious for not being able to stop the run ... I mean honestly ... houston, cincy, DETRIOT!?!?! ... TENNESSEE!!??!?! ... brown gets the edge by a long shot ... oh and another thing that I want to get off my chest ... willie parker holds a record for the longest run in the superbowl because he happened to be really fast and went through a whole that you could drive a dump truck through and then beat an OUT OF POSITION BACK-UP SAFETY ... the starter was hurt earlier in the game

I can't help but love Parker.... But you are right, there was a reason he wasnt starting at Carolina. The OLine sucked and he didn't have the vision to find the creases that someone like McGill could.

As a phins fan I'm certainly not sold on Ronnie yet....or this great breakout year everyone sees coming. If you take everything into consideration hes a great and versatile back already. Hes probably the second best reciever on the team after Chambers, is solid at picking up blitzers, and is a physical marvel. As for running skills, they just arent there yet. Like Parker if hes given an obvious hole he'll hit it and he has the speed to break away. Unlike Parker he combines the speed with impressive power and can run through tackles. But he misses cutback lanes, prefers running over people than trying to fake them out, and at times runs too upright.

#3: I don't understand what was so impressive with the fins late season run last year ... Their only victim that had a winning record was the Chargers and LT had cracked ribs for the last 6 weeks of the regular season (this I know because his piss-poor play caused me my fantasy league championship last year) ... I hate to break it to ya but as scary as teams like Oakland, Buffalo, NYJ, Cleveland, Tennessee, and a Tom Brady-less patriots (which I'm pretty sure could then be compared to a JV High School team) ... well ... Ill just stop there

lastly ... I'm all for your love and support for the greater good and health of football in general ... but I hope that we absolutley crush the dolphins

Last season means nothing. I doubt either the phins or steelers players will care about their winning streaks when they start playing.

clevestinks
09-07-2006, 10:58 AM
goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sTEELERS!

Meister
09-07-2006, 11:02 AM
Like previously stated, almost all points were covered, but let's re-review the secondary. You edge the Dolphins? Is that the same team that allowed TD passes of 48, 51, 55, and 62 yards in the first two preseason games? Even though Pittsburgh's secondary is the weakest part of our defense atleast we aren't possibly the weakest unit in the league.

EDGE: PITTSBURGH, BY A ENDLESS CREVASSE OF SPACE!

And who was beat on those plays? Mitchell, who is no longer on the roster, and Allen, a rookie who had attened all of one practice before being thrust into the lineup. (As a CB....a position which he hasnt played in 3 years)

If you want to evaluate a team based on preseason play at least limit the analysis to the players who will actually be on the field in the regular season. What transpires between backup players really shows nothing about how the team will perform in the games that count.

4n2t0
09-07-2006, 04:24 PM
And who was beat on those plays? Mitchell, who is no longer on the roster, and Allen, a rookie who had attened all of one practice before being thrust into the lineup. (As a CB....a position which he hasnt played in 3 years)

If you want to evaluate a team based on preseason play at least limit the analysis to the players who will actually be on the field in the regular season. What transpires between backup players really shows nothing about how the team will perform in the games that count.

LMAO, are you for real? It's no secret to anyone that the Dolphins have one of the weakest secondary units. Oh wait, that's right, you have Travis Daniels. Will he even be playing tonight? Will Allen, nothing special there.