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alittlejazzbird
09-12-2006, 12:47 PM
Just read the Post-Gazette article about Ben wanting to play Monday night:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06255/721151-100.stm

Troy is listed as "questionable" for Monday with a shoulder. Cowher mentioned it very briefly after the Dolphins game....anybody know anything further?

No Troy?????? Unthinkable!!!!!!

I-Want-Troy's-Hair
09-12-2006, 12:49 PM
Roethlisberger questionable for Monday night game

By ALAN ROBINSON
AP Sports Writer

PITTSBURGH (AP) -- Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher may not decide until Saturday or Sunday if quarterback Ben Roethlisberger will start Monday night in Jacksonville, even if Roethlisberger already seems to have decided he is playing.

Roethlisberger missed the Steelers' season-opening 28-17 victory over Miami on Thursday after having an appendectomy on Sept. 3. He is listed as questionable, meaning there is a 50-50 chance he will play against the Jaguars.

The quarterback apparently is convinced he will be ready for the only Monday night game this season for the Super Bowl champions. He threw to some receivers Tuesday, a day the team otherwise did not work out, and has told Cowher he wants to play.

Asked if he thinks Roethlisberger will push hard to get on the field, Cowher said, "Yes."

"The bottom line is making sure he's comfortable, he feels like he can protect himself and he's going out there not thinking about those things," Cowher said. "It's getting the (medical) clearance, dealing with going through the work load and seeing how his body responds to that."

Cowher emphasized Roethlisberger has had a stressful few months medically, with his near-fatal June 12 motorcycle accident and the appendicitis attack less than three months later.

"The kid's been through a lot," Cowher said. "That's the thing that I want to make sure of, that he is comfortable and he feels good about himself. Then we'll make the decision at that point. Again, I'm not ready to say (now), `OK, the doctors say he's OK.'

"He's a very competitive young man, and we'll talk. We have an open dialog, and we'll go from there."

Roethlisberger is expected to practice Wednesday, the first workout the Steelers will have had in a week. They have an unusually long 11-day break between games, and Cowher said that could be beneficial for Roethlisberger.

"Yes, he needs to practice," Cowher said. "He's not going to sit there and not practice until Monday and then have me say, `Go out and play.' ... We'll see how he feels, see how efficiently he's able to move around."

Roethlisberger sat out a 23-17 overtime loss to Jacksonville last season because of a knee injury. In that loss, backup Tommy Maddox committed four turnovers in one of the worst games by a quarterback in team history.

In the overtime, Maddox not only lost a fumble that likely prevented the Steelers from kicking a game-winning field goal, he threw the interception that Rashean Mathis returned 41 yards for the game-winning score. Maddox was cut by the team in March.

The Steelers got much better play against Miami last week from backup QB Charlie Batch, who threw three touchdown passes in his first season-opening start in five years. Batch, who replaced Maddox as Roethlisberger's backup following that Jacksonville game last year, is 3-0 as a fill-in starter the last two seasons.

Strong safety Troy Polamalu (shoulder) also is questionable for Jacksonville, as is backup tight end Jerame Tuman (hamstring), who didn't play against Miami.

BlackNGold203
09-12-2006, 12:52 PM
That means they are both playing....:cool: :cool:

BlackNGold203
09-12-2006, 12:53 PM
LOL...he made a nice interception after his shoulder was injured...

He'll be fine...:cool: :cool:

83-Steelers-43
09-12-2006, 12:53 PM
Just listened to the Cowher's Tuesday press conference on FSN Pittsburgh and going by Cowher's mood, Troy's shoulder is minor.

Troy will be ready.

SteelerFanInCA
09-12-2006, 12:54 PM
Do we know the extent of Troy's shoulder injury? I didn't even see him hurt it.

SteelerFanInCA
09-12-2006, 12:55 PM
Just listened to the Cowher's Tuesday press conference on FSN Pittsburgh and going by Cowher's mood, Troy's shoulder is minor.

Troy will be ready.

I wonder if it was more of a stinger than an actual injury?

83-Steelers-43
09-12-2006, 12:58 PM
I wonder if it was more of a stinger than an actual injury?

I'm sure it's just a little sore. Nothing major and after listening to Cowher's "tone" during his PC, I strongly believe that . Plus, Troy stayed in the game after the INT so it's not as if it was dislocated or anything of the sort.

SteelerFanInCA
09-12-2006, 01:00 PM
I'm sure it's just a little sore. Nothing major and after listening to Cowher's "tone" during his PC, I strongly believe that . Plus, Troy stayed in the game after the INT so it's not as if it was dislocated or anything of the sort.

That's great to hear. Hopefully the team will be at full force for next Monday's game.

HometownGal
09-12-2006, 01:35 PM
Great news! :cool: You have got to love both of these guys' determination to get back on that field! :bouncy:

19ward86
09-12-2006, 03:08 PM
i hope both play cause if they both play then we will win fo sho.

stlrtruck
09-12-2006, 03:36 PM
I think we should let Batch start the game. Let the jags prepare for Batch and then depending on how he's doing in the game, bring in Roethlisberger to switch it up in the second half.

klick81
09-12-2006, 03:59 PM
I think we should let Batch start the game. Let the jags prepare for Batch and then depending on how he's doing in the game, bring in Roethlisberger to switch it up in the second half.

If Batch starts, Batch will finish. I don't see Cowher taking anyone out after the game has started. We learned that with Maddox. Anyway, I hope Polamalu starts...he is KEY. I'm still 50/50 on Ben. We need him to start, but we also need him to be healthy for the rest of the season...so i don't know.

Man_Of_Steel
09-12-2006, 07:02 PM
I look for Batch and Troy to play.

SteelShooter
09-13-2006, 12:12 AM
That means they are both playing....:cool: :cool:

I agree

Tankus_Maximus
09-13-2006, 12:22 AM
I'd let Ben sit out after the bye-week. The boy looked s-k-i-n-n-y. He needs to pound a couple of those RoethlisBURGERS and wash 'em down with a couple of 40oz Mickeys.

ugh. That's gonna hurt when it comes out, but it'll put the pounds on his a$$.

I-Want-Troy's-Hair
09-13-2006, 12:26 AM
Polamalu's shoulder a concern for Steelers
Questionable for Monday with shoulder injury

Wednesday, September 13, 2006
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Disputes abound about which player the Steelers can least afford to lose. No debate is creditable without including strong safety Troy Polamalu in the discussion.

The Steelers have never provided evidence for that one because Polamalu has not missed a game in his three previous seasons. However, coach Bill Cowher yesterday listed his All-Pro safety as questionable for the game Monday night in Jacksonville because of a shoulder injury from Thursday's 28-17 victory against Miami at Heinz Field.

Cowher said yesterday he did not know how Polamalu's shoulder was injured and provided no more details. He said Thursday night that the injury occurred in the first half.

Polamalu could be seen on the sideline having his shoulder looked at -- just before he returned to the field in the fourth quarter and intercepted a pass from Miami quarterback Daunte Culpepper to help sustain the Steelers' lead.

Polamalu has made the past two Pro Bowls and has helped make the Steelers' defense more complicated for opposing quarterbacks because of his versatility. He's in constant movement before and after the snap and can play safety, linebacker, cornerback and rush the passer.

He started every game the past two seasons and played in every game as a rookie in 2003. Polamalu ranked third on the team last year with 100 tackles, tops in the secondary. He also had three fumble recoveries and two interceptions, and his three sacks in one game tied an NFL record for a safety.

Cowher also listed tight end Jerame Tuman as questionable for Monday's game, as well as quarterback Ben Roethlisberger. Tuman missed the opener with a hamstring injury.

"Jerame will work [today] and we will see how he feels Thursday and we will have more of an update on him later in the week," Cowher said.

The coach listed three players as probable this week: Receiver Hines Ward (hamstring), receiver Nate Washington (knee) and tackle Max Starks (knee).

BlacknGold Bleeder
09-13-2006, 12:29 AM
I'm betting on both playing!!

Steel Pit
09-13-2006, 01:47 AM
I don't want to see either one of them rush themselves back. This is going to be a very physical game. Week #3 if FAR more important than week #2. Besides, I believe that we can beat the Jags without both Ben and Troy. I really do prefer that they take the week off so they'll be near 100% for the Bengals game.

HometownGal
09-13-2006, 07:38 AM
I don't want to see either one of them rush themselves back. This is going to be a very physical game. Week #3 if FAR more important than week #2. Besides, I believe that we can beat the Jags without both Ben and Troy. I really do prefer that they take the week off so they'll be near 100% for the Bengals game.

I do agree with you on principle, but both Troy and Ben are fierce competitors and it's hard to keep them down (as we know all too well with Ben!). They both know their own bodies and if they feel they are ready to play, I say more power to 'em! :bouncy:

BlackNGold203
09-13-2006, 07:48 AM
Both will play....Cowher will keep the Jags guessing on the QB situation until game time...but Del Rio isnt dumb...he's prepping for Ben....as he should....

I.C. Lights
09-13-2006, 11:04 PM
I don't want to see either one of them rush themselves back. This is going to be a very physical game. Week #3 if FAR more important than week #2. Besides, I believe that we can beat the Jags without both Ben and Troy. I really do prefer that they take the week off so they'll be near 100% for the Bengals game.

You got it. Jags are always one of the most, if not the most physical games of the season. Even Hines says so. So, I don't see the problem with using Batch - a reliable backup - against them, especially when you consider that it took Tommy's epic choke-of-the-century for them to beat us last year.

83-Steelers-43
09-14-2006, 12:04 AM
Big Ben feels fine, frets about ex-coach
Thursday, September 14, 2006

By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Yes, Ben Roethlisberger practiced yesterday, perhaps with a heavy heart, and that has nothing to do with another emergency medical procedure performed on him.

Roethlisberger came through his Sept. 3 appendectomy fine, as he did his June 12 motorcycle accident, and is likely to start at quarterback Monday night in Jacksonville for the Steelers.

He can only hope his former coach at Miami University, Terry Hoeppner, comes through in equally fine fashion. Hoeppner, with whom Roethlisberger remains close, underwent brain surgery yesterday in a Bloomington, Ind., hospital for the second time in less than nine months after a scan showed evidence of a possible recurrent tumor.

Hoeppner, now at Indiana, came through the surgery well and was resting comfortably, Hoosiers athletic director Rick Greenspan said.

Roethlisberger and Hoeppner talked Tuesday morning.

"He wanted to inform me of everything that was going on before I heard about it from all of you guys," Roethlisberger said. "We talked. He's like a father to me, I love him to death. I know he'll be OK because he's a fighter and he's a competitor. The way he made it out to me, it's not as serious as everyone's making it out to be."

Neither were many of the things about Roethlisberger that led off the 5, 6 and 11 p.m. news shows. He was the big story again yesterday when he returned to practice, 10 days after his laparoscopic appendectomy at UPMC Presbyterian. He has been cleared medically, and there's no reason for him not to play unless he is so uncomfortable that it could affect his performance in Jacksonville.

"It feels normal," Roethlisberger said. "Everything feels like there's nothing wrong.

"Obviously the first priority is discomfort -- what's going to be comfortable? I wear rib pads anyway so we'll see how that feels putting those on."

Wide receiver Hines Ward watched practice in sweats as coach Bill Cowher gave him the day off to allow his sore hamstring more recovery time. He was in good position to assess Roethlisberger's latest comeback attempt, and he gave him two thumbs up.

"He did pretty well," Ward said. "He threw the ball well, he went through it. From what I saw, he felt fine.

"He practiced, so that's the encouraging thing. He went out there and threw the ball around, got in with the first group and did a great job. He threw some great balls and receivers made plays. He's taking steps in the right direction."

He took all those steps in training camp, showing that he had overcome the broken jaw, broken nose, broken orbital bone and broken teeth that occurred when his helmetless head was smacked in the motorcycle accident. On the morning he was to begin practice for the opener against Miami, he reported a stomach ache to Cowher.

"He told me to suck it up," Roethlisberger said. "And then, it's just one of those things, you think it's a stomach ache, and it turns out a lot worse than you think."

Defensive end Brett Keisel, who said last week that Roethlisberger is cursed, tried to remove that curse yesterday by giving Roethlisberger a bottle of "lucky" water. The quarterback called it half full, rather than half empty.

There is that little matter of his first two seasons in the league, in which he has led his team to a Super Bowl victory and an overall 27-4 record with him as their starting quarterback. Dan Marino would take a curse such as that.

"I've got that black cloud over my head," Roethlisberger said.

He has overcome November knee surgery to win a Super Bowl, a near-fatal motorcycle accident to participate in training camp and an appendectomy to likely play in the second game of the season.

"I've been through a little bit in the past couple of months," Roethlisberger said, "but it's just another thing, obviously for a reason. I'm taking that approach, and that's why I'm going to get back as soon as I can."

Ward is confident Roethlisberger will start in Jacksonville Monday night.

"Ben surprises everyone. He has a high tolerance for pain. He's going to fight through whatever."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06257/721682-66.stm

83-Steelers-43
09-14-2006, 12:08 AM
Players predict quick return for QB

By Mike Prisuta
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, September 14, 2006


Steelers coach Bill Cowher is mindful that his quarterback has "been through a lot" the past couple of months, while defensive end Brett Keisel maintains Ben Roethlisberger is "cursed."
Roethlisberger is more philosophical when assessing his travails, which include seven hours of facial reconstructive surgery June 12 and an emergency appendectomy Sept. 3.

"Well, I've been through a little bit in the last couple of months, but things happen for a reason," Roethlisberger said Wednesday.

He's keeping a "half-drank bottle of water from Keisel" in his locker as a good-luck charm, just in case.

"I'm going to get back as soon as I can," Roethlisberger said.

That would be Monday night at Jacksonville.

Guard Alan Faneca said he'd be "shocked" if Roethlisberger didn't play.

Wide receiver Hines Ward estimated Roethlisberger's chances of playing at "about 80 percent."

Cowher, who is making no such calculations, has said Roethlisberger will be evaluated as the week progresses and that more than the recovery from his most recent surgery will be considered.

Roethlisberger isn't into probabilities, either, but he's making progress.

"Getting better every day," he said prior to practice yesterday. "My stomach feels pretty good. Obviously, if you push on a wound or someone cuts into your body, it's going to hurt a little bit, but, for the most part, it all feels real good.

"I've thrown the last two days, nothing too outrageous. It feels pretty good, just a little bit (of soreness), not too bad."

Roethlisberger didn't speak to the media following yesterday afternoon's workout, his third consecutive day of throwing.

"He didn't seem to lose anything from having a couple weeks off. That's encouraging," fullback Dan Kreider said. "He made some nice throws, and I would think that if you're in pain, you wouldn't throw those balls.

"I would think if he can go through practice that he'd want to play this game. I would think that if he feels good enough, he's a competitor, so I think we'll see him out there, but time will tell."

Added Keisel: "I don't think he's 100 percent, but it's amazing that he's out there right now, how many days after surgery? We appreciate that from him. He wants to come in and work and show that he's the leader of this team, and we're all behind him."

Cowher has said a decision on Roethlisberger isn't likely until "Friday or Saturday."

Roethlisberger said he began eating "normal foods" a day after his surgery, took no stitches and lost no weight because of the procedure.

Keisel, remorseful over his "cursed" comment upon learning of Roethlisberger's appendectomy, improvised a good luck charm to make amends.

"He was like 'What the hell, man, you said I was cursed?' " Keisel said. "I said, 'I was just saying, what's the deal, dude? We kind of need you over here.' I was trying to think of something I could do to make him laugh, I guess.

"I was drinking a bottle of water. I drank about half of it. I put a little backwash in the rest and said, 'Put this in your locker and leave it up the rest of the year.' I closed it, locked up all the medicine inside, he's good for the rest of the year."

The water bottle has no track record as a miracle elixir, but Keisel is keeping the faith.

"I know it's going to work," he said. "He's going to work. He'll be fine."

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_470388.html

davidgrenier
09-14-2006, 11:18 AM
I think Cowher needs to keep the long-view of winning another Superbowl in mind. He's not there to appease players' egos. I'd rather have them miss one game now than several games later.

HometownGal
09-14-2006, 11:26 AM
I think Cowher needs to keep the long-view of winning another Superbowl in mind. He's not there to appease players' egos. I'd rather have them miss one game now than several games later.

I couldn't agree with you more. If Ben and his docs feel that he has completely healed on the inside (where it really matters), that's great, but if he doesn't feel 100%, there is no sense in playing and risking a setback. Ben's been through a lot in a 3 month span of time. I would prefer it if he just sat back this game, continued his practice and be 100% healthy and back to normal for the Bungles game. Batch, to my pleasant surprise, did fine in the Miami game and I know the Jax game is a little different as we are playing a tough defense on the road, but I would rather Ben not throw caution to the wind. We're going to need him from the Bungles game and after the bye.

83-Steelers-43
09-14-2006, 11:31 AM
Personally, I don't see Cowher letting Ben play if he's not 100%. I believe Cowher has made that very clear in the past (accident recovery) when dealing with Ben. If Ben states he's ready to go, then Cowher should let him play. If Ben states he doesn't feel good, then don't play him. It's not all that complicated really.

At the same time, Cowher is not able to read minds. It's up to Ben to tell Cowher how he is really feeling.

RoethlisBURGHer
09-14-2006, 01:12 PM
Troy and Ben will both play and kick ass.