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83-Steelers-43
09-20-2006, 08:27 PM
Obviously we were not the only ones a little upset with Monday nights showing.....

Police: Pit Bulls Belonging To Steeler Joey Porter Kill Horse
Porter Upset, Cooperating With Officials

POSTED: 4:22 pm EDT September 20, 2006
UPDATED: 4:46 pm EDT September 20, 2006

RICHLAND TWP., Pa. -- Police in Richland Township said that Steeler Joey Porter's pit bulls killed a horse on Hill Haven Lane.

Police said when they got to the scene, they called Porter.

He cooperated with police, and police said that he was upset about what happened.

The dogs are secured right now, and police are investigating.

There could be charges filed against Porter eventually.

Watch Channel 11 News and refresh this page for updates on this story.

http://www.wpxi.com/pittsburgh_steelers/9895652/detail.html

Atlanta Dan
09-20-2006, 08:36 PM
A horse??!!

I will be interested to hear how the horse and pit bulls were in the same neighborhood and why the horse did not get away.

In all seriousness, people keeping animals such as pit bulls that do a fair amount of violence to small children on a recurring basis remains a puzzle to me.

83-Steelers-43
09-20-2006, 11:33 PM
More info on this story......

Porter's pit bulls kill miniature horse

By The Tribune-Review
Thursday, September 21, 2006


Two pit bulls owned by Steelers linebacker Joey Porter escaped from his backyard in Pine on Tuesday and killed a miniature horse that was grazing on a neighbor's farm, WTAE-TV reported Wednesday.

Northern Regional Police Chief Robert Amman told the television station that Porter assisted officers in bringing the dogs under control after they attacked the 29-inch-high miniature horse. The chief said the dogs managed to get away from Porter's yard despite the presence of what he called a secure fence.

Amman said Porter has expressed remorse to the horse's owner and has been cooperative with police. The chief said police will file summary charges against Porter for harboring unsafe dogs and failing to confine the animals.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_471473.html

jaysta
09-20-2006, 11:51 PM
In all seriousness, people keeping animals such as pit bulls that do a fair amount of violence to small children on a recurring basis remains a puzzle to me.

I couldn't agree more. As much as I like Porter, this is very irresponsible. For any of you who have kids you'll know where I'm coming from on this one. The sooner these types of dogs are outlawed the better off we'll be.

theropodx
09-21-2006, 03:17 AM
We could get off-topic fast, but I gotta defend dogs here (not these particular dogs, but the breeds). Just as with teenagers (yes, they kill from time to time too--more often than dogs), the responsibility lies with the parents/owners. 99+% of Pitt Bulls (and Rotts) will never harm a soul.

Those that do should be dealt with (and their owners), but it isn't an issue of banning an entire breed of dogs. One of the reasons this comes up in the news once and a while is that these are super-popular breeds. But again, countless thousands of these dogs are living well manered (and controlled) lives.

I know it's easy to dump on dog breeds, just like certain types of people. But as an owner seeing 1st hand what dogs like these are like under training and supervision, I'd only ask people consider spending time with these dogs or at least do some reading/research before they jump to conclusions.

One more stat: you mention kids, but more kids are mauled by dalmations than by any other breed. Why? Kids are most likely to be given this breed as a pet. Here again, most dalmations do not maul--it's important to keep things in perspective.

ARKIESTEEL
09-21-2006, 05:39 AM
Out where I live dogs roam free no leash law. I own a small cattle farm with about 32 head of cows I have had dogs run my cows thru the fence more than once, so I shoot dogs that come near my cows and the law is on my side. I know folks get upset about the poor dog and its not the dogs fault and blah blah blah but nobody asked the cow that has to get put down cause barb wire and steel post have rip it to shreads.

19ward86
09-21-2006, 07:49 AM
only porters dogs would eat a horse

Infamix
09-21-2006, 08:22 AM
Pit bulls are an unnessesary breed. They are too unpredictable and violent.

JustaFan
09-21-2006, 08:49 AM
only porters dogs would eat a horse

This should have happened the week the Steelers played Indy.

sumo
09-21-2006, 11:15 AM
That minature horse owner will be able to purchase a whole new flock of little ponies with the civil lawsuit he will eventually win --

Porter's new contract: 5 years 35 million - signing bonus of 10 million - 8 million of which is guaranteed to little pony owner...

augustashark
09-21-2006, 12:11 PM
We could get off-topic fast, but I gotta defend dogs here (not these particular dogs, but the breeds). Just as with teenagers (yes, they kill from time to time too--more often than dogs), the responsibility lies with the parents/owners. 99+% of Pitt Bulls (and Rotts) will never harm a soul.

Those that do should be dealt with (and their owners), but it isn't an issue of banning an entire breed of dogs. One of the reasons this comes up in the news once and a while is that these are super-popular breeds. But again, countless thousands of these dogs are living well manered (and controlled) lives.

I know it's easy to dump on dog breeds, just like certain types of people. But as an owner seeing 1st hand what dogs like these are like under training and supervision, I'd only ask people consider spending time with these dogs or at least do some reading/research before they jump to conclusions.

One more stat: you mention kids, but more kids are mauled by dalmations than by any other breed. Why? Kids are most likely to be given this breed as a pet. Here again, most dalmations do not maul--it's important to keep things in perspective.


Little late in the game, don't you think?

tony hipchest
09-21-2006, 12:54 PM
more news on the story:

the little horse killed was named manning. the neigbors other mini pony, jake, was able to scramble away to safety (but not before throwing a pic).

appearantly porter left the dogs in the house with his new dvd "the road to sb XL" playing and the dogs became agitated and aggresive.

just for security precautions the tigers have been sheltered at the local zoo. the f.a.a. has also decided to ground and coup, all birds of prey in the local area.

Livinginthe past
09-21-2006, 01:23 PM
more news on the story:

the little horse killed was named manning. the neigbors other mini pony, jake, was able to scramble away to safety (but not before throwing a pic).

appearantly porter left the dogs in the house with his new dvd "the road to sb XL" playing and the dogs became agitated and aggresive.

just for security precautions the tigers have been sheltered at the local zoo. the f.a.a. has also decided to ground and coup, all birds of prey in the local area.

I guess 'Manning' suffered from 'protection problems'.

NM

sumo
09-21-2006, 01:26 PM
Hew went over and kissed the owner of the little pony so everything's cool now...

Stillers#1
09-21-2006, 01:31 PM
This isn't the breeds fault, I have Pit Bulls living next to me, that are as loveable and kind as any other dog. This is Porters fault, for raising the dogs to be too viscious.

Lyn
09-21-2006, 01:36 PM
That is sickening and we hear that kind of stuff all the time about Pit Bulls. How are we suppose to feel? They are unnecessary. I have never heard of a dalmation tearing a kid to bits or killing them, where do you get your information? Would you like to share your source?

tony hipchest
09-21-2006, 01:43 PM
I guess 'Manning' suffered from 'protection problems'.

NMuh huh. appearantly the "security fence" didnt hold up.

sumo
09-21-2006, 01:46 PM
Dogs got personality - personality goes a long way - so by that rational if a pig has personality it would cease to be a filthy animal - yeah but that would have to be one charmin mother f---- pig -- I'm talking Arnold from Green Acres....

clevestinks
09-21-2006, 02:33 PM
Pit bulls are an unnessesary breed. They are too unpredictable and violent.

I agree. I just had an employee go to prison for six months last Thursday. We terminated the following day, but anyway his two pitbulls go loose and mauled a lady. She recovered, but had four surgeries. It was in the cleveland palin dealer last fri, His termination was more than just the for the prison term, that was just icing on the cake.

HEREWEGO
09-21-2006, 02:49 PM
this kind of stuff should happen more often...its exciting

RoethlisBURGHer
09-21-2006, 03:13 PM
That is horrible.

The reason we always hear about Pittbulls and Rotts are because they are super-popular breeds so an attack by one or more of the dogs are always gonna get more media attention than another breed of dog.

My cousins have owned 3 or 4 Rotts and they never had any violence problems with any of them.The biggest problem with Rotts is that they are really big dogs so when they play with you (like tugging on a rubber bone or wrestling with them) you're more likley to get hurt because of thier size,not because they are violent dogs.

Most violent dogs are violent because they are either beaten by thier owner and/or they are trained to attack,especially pittbulls.In many parts of the country there are illegal pittbull fights.The dogs are abused and trained to be violent so they can win the fights,many people breed the dogs for this purpose.

Also,in the ghetto,many people feel they need a dog to protect thier house.They can't afford an alarm system,hell,many companies won't install a system in the ghetto.So they buy pittbulls and/or rotts and train them to be violent or agressive so the house and family is protected.When the dog gets loose,the training takes over and someone gets attacked.Normally a kid because a kid will want to play with the dog not knowing the dangers of it.

Atlanta Dan
09-21-2006, 04:51 PM
Well it is pretty clear Porter's dogs were pathologically aggressive, whether by training or breeding, but: 1) Peezy does not live in the ghetto; and 2) I assume he can afford a burglar alarm.

There is no excuse for his dogs getting out (what did they do, take the keys in their mouth and unlock the gate?) and no excuse for owning in that setting animals with the disposition of the atttack dogs that killed a family's pet - it was not as if the dogs were needed to guard a junkyard. Prove your manhood in a way that does not put innocent bystanders at risk.

I am sure he is sorry, but sorry will not bring that horse back to life - Porter deserves to take some major heat for this.

Atlanta Dan
09-21-2006, 04:52 PM
this kind of stuff should happen more often...its exciting

You are a fool.

43Hitman
09-21-2006, 07:28 PM
Dogs, like children need proper training,rearing, with-out that you have an un-diciplined dog, child. I have been around and raised dogs since I was about 7.

83-Steelers-43
09-21-2006, 11:11 PM
Porter upset by dog incident

By Michael Hasch
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Friday, September 22, 2006


Steelers linebacker Joey Porter said Thursday that he would not keep the two pit bulls that attacked and killed a neighbor's miniature horse.
Porter was cited for harboring dangerous dogs and related charges filed in connection with Tuesday's attack at a horse farm on Hill Haven Lane, not far from his home in Pine.

According to a statement released through the Steelers, Porter said he was upset by the incident because the dogs were raised to be family pets and not attack dogs.

Out of concern for his neighbors and community, Porter said, he was having the dogs shipped to a kennel in California.

Porter said he was a parent and understood his neighbors' fears about having such dogs around. He said he wanted to do what's best for the community.

Northern Regional Police, who investigated the attack, filed the citations yesterday before District Judge Regis C. Welsh Jr. of Hampton.

Porter has 10 days to respond to the six citations -- two each for harboring dangerous dogs, failure to keep dogs confined and failure to have the dogs licensed in Pennsylvania.

They are summary offenses that carry a possible fine of $300 each, Welsh said.

Welsh could hold a hearing to determine if the dogs are dangerous.

If he decides they are, a report will be sent to the state Bureau of Dog Law Enforcement, which requires that such animals be registered.

The bureau also has a strict set of safety guidelines for owners of such animals, Welsh said.

Richard and Eleanor Bowers, who owned the horse, had no comment.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_471669.html

Livinginthe past
09-21-2006, 11:22 PM
You have to wonder what sort of mentality Porter had bred in these dogs - to attack and bring down a horse is the action of dogs that are used for fighting or that are kept so hungry that they are delirious.

I imagine most dogs would bark at a horse or maybe even feint a chase at it, but to rip its neck out means they were conditioned to be that way.

All I can say is that it was lucky they didnt come across humans first or Peezy could be up in front of the judge on much more serious charges.

NM

83-Steelers-43
09-21-2006, 11:30 PM
Watched a special on Joey Porter on Steelers TV ONDEMAND and I strongly doubt he would intentionally breed them to kill. The guy has four kids for starters. Plus he stated they were raised to be "family pets and not attack dogs". I see no reason why not to believe him.

Now, would a pit bull be my first choice for a family pet? No. From what I gather (I'm not a dog expert nor am I going to pretend that I am) they have a history of acting perfectly normal one second and snapping the next. But, it's a free country. The guy can own them if he pleases.

NV STEELERS 723
09-21-2006, 11:50 PM
I thought Porter's statement was professional. I'm sure there is a reason the dogs got out and Joey will make sure they won't get out a 3rd time...

theropodx
09-22-2006, 12:33 AM
That is sickening and we hear that kind of stuff all the time about Pit Bulls. How are we suppose to feel? They are unnecessary. I have never heard of a dalmation tearing a kid to bits or killing them, where do you get your information? Would you like to share your source?

Yeah, that came for a Dateline NBC episode. The stat wasn't theirs, however, but its so long ago I don't remember the source. You may reject this source out of hand (admittedly I can't provide a direct citation), but here again I encourage people to do a little research--lots of info on the web explaining how dogs that are not properly handled are dangerous, but it's not a breed-specific problem.

Oh, and I didn't say dalmations kill kids.