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I-Want-Troy's-Hair
09-28-2006, 03:30 AM
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Reid awaits chance to return punts

"A lot of people think it's a scary job, but I like it a lot."

Thursday, September 28, 2006
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Willie Reid does not like the job of returning punts. He loves it. Whether he gets to pursue his desire depends on the other party, in this case coach Bill Cowher.

"There will be some changes," Cowher declared after the Steelers practiced for the first of two days during their off week. "I am not ready to announce any of them now. We have a whole week to see what our options are and assess it from there."

He did not have to announce that cornerback Ricardo Colclough no longer will return punts. That's assumed. Rookies Reid and Santonio Holmes, along with veteran Cedrick Wilson are the candidates to replace him. All are receivers.

Cowher acknowledged that in the preseason he felt Reid, who owns the Florida State punt-return record with a 15.4-yard average, would be his punt returner. The problem is that if he uses Reid, he either must be among his top four receivers or he must dress five, plus special-teamer Sean Morey. The top four receivers through the first three games are Hines Ward, Wilson, Nate Washington and Holmes.

"The difficulties again are the makeup of the roster on game day," Cowher said. "You can easily sit there and say you want this and this, but it's not always easy to do. I'm doing what I think is in the best interest of the team and I will make those decisions accordingly. If I think that will help us dramatically, then I will make that decision. Again, it comes down to a coach's decision, and those are things I have to make week to week."

Reid said he understands that, but he would love a crack at the return job.

"A lot of people think it's a scary job, but I like it a lot. You have to have courage, you have to have awareness. If you've been doing it for awhile, it's not as scary as people make it out to be. It's something I enjoy doing, something I think is real fun."

Penn State saw just how much fun he had in the Orange Bowl with 180 yards of punt returns, including a touchdown.

He returned 10 punts for 88 yards in the preseason, seven more than anyone else. He, like Cowher, thought he would return punts in the regular season.

"I had a good little feel I was going to be that guy," Reid said. "But it's a numbers game. Whenever the coaches call and whenever they get ready for me to play, I'll be there."

Reid said Colclough, "just had a bad game. If you're a punt returner, you're in the limelight. If you mess up one time like that, a lot of people see it. It's a mistake he made that I'm sure he won't make it again if he gets the opportunity."

stlrtruck
09-28-2006, 08:06 AM
I love the kid's attitude about it. Then how he didn't sell out Coclough. That's a team player and I'm glad he's in the BnG!!

Now if only he can crack the lineup!!!

HometownGal
09-28-2006, 08:10 AM
This young man has a great 'tude and is a teamer. When his time comes, and I hope it is very soon, I have no doubt he will shine.

stlrtruck
09-28-2006, 08:15 AM
But as soon as he breaks one the distance, everyone is going to be on coach, "Why didn't you do this sooner?" type bs.

Infamix
09-28-2006, 09:21 AM
This is definately going to be a good decision if he starts

dSharp
09-28-2006, 02:02 PM
You may hear that, Truck, but you'll also hear Cowher say something about how early in the season you're trying to find out if what you saw in preseason is what you'll get in the regular season, and sometimes you have to let it play itself out.

you know, the vintage "I think it's a process." speech.

Personally, my theory is that Cowher wanted to give Coclough a legitimate shot at contributing to the team before they decided to start looking elsewhere, enter the drafting of Holmes and Reid. It's not like Colclough has done a whole lot, and maybe they were hoping that his allegedly good training camp was the start of something for him.

In all fairness, it's still just a stupid mistake.. he's made a couple, yea, and I wouldn't go so far as to say that he should be benched for eternity, but the fact is that when you have a Reid on your inactive list and the guy who's doing what Reid would be doing is messing up, the uproar is going to be and has been amplified.

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
09-28-2006, 02:11 PM
Heres how i thing our recievers should look....
1. Ward
2. Holmes
3. Washington
4. Wilson/Reid

And Reid returning punts
Holmes and Reid on returns

Da Question
09-28-2006, 02:16 PM
Heres how i thing our recievers should look....
1. Ward
2. Holmes
3. Washington
4. Wilson/Reid

And Reid returning punts
Holmes and Reid on returns

hmmm.. I think i move it around
1.ward
2.wilson
3.holmes
4.washington/reid

I agree with the returners thou.

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
09-28-2006, 02:19 PM
hmmm.. I think i move it around
1.ward
2.wilson
3.holmes
4.washington/reid

I agree with the returners thou.

Why put wilson at # 2 hes not very impressive right now.....Throw holmes in there and let him earn us trading up (7 ???) spots for hi

Da Question
09-28-2006, 02:34 PM
Well i think ced wilson is underrated, plus he seems to get big plays when he get open. His numbers are low this season but he got an avg. catch of 21 yrds. plus 3 first down catches out of 4 catches. thats a possesion guy in my opinion. Then jus line up holmes as the # 3 wr.
plus i like the 6 yrs of exp compared to a rookie.

catches 4 yards 85 avg. 21.3 long 36 1st downs 3

Da Question
09-28-2006, 02:36 PM
Not a bad idea thou to get holmes there since we did trade up for him.
I would have rather got moss (miami) instead or holmes.

dSharp
09-28-2006, 03:46 PM
I think Holmes is fine at #3 for now, but only if they keep him out of the slot position when they go three wide. Give him some easier routes to run on the outside, gives him a chance to read defenses a little easier, and I think he will learn the position and the plays ten times faster this way because he'll see what the defense does to him and to his teamates without a linebacker slobbering all over him while he tries to read the safety. There's alot to think about from the slot position, linebackers, safety coverage, zones, etc. I just think it's alot to ask a kid like this to understand all the nuances of the position as it pertains to the NFL level, let alone just "get it" by week 3, 4, or even 5. I would envision that by midseason he will understand things a heck of alot better.

I know he's gonna make mistakes as he learns but if they just help him ease into things a little more from an outside reciever position, I think it will end up helping the recieving corps get stronger.

Haiku_Dirtt
09-28-2006, 03:46 PM
Well i think ced wilson is underrated, plus he seems to get big plays when he get open. His numbers are low this season but he got an avg. catch of 21 yrds. plus 3 first down catches out of 4 catches. thats a possesion guy in my opinion. Then jus line up holmes as the # 3 wr.
plus i like the 6 yrs of exp compared to a rookie.

catches 4 yards 85 avg. 21.3 long 36 1st downs 3

Since you brought it up...

Kidding right? As a No. 2 receiver Wilson is anything but underrated.

And with the tremendous hype shoveled into the draft sweepstakes by Buckeyes fans about the greatness of Santonio Holmes :coffee: :yawn: I guess we'll just go to the rookie card for now. Again? Did someone say deep threat? He shows flashes of ellusiveness as often as he shows a lack of knowing how to play the position. 50-50 so far. At least he is young.

And just when I thought about annointing Nate as the closest thing we have to a sure wideout (at this juncture of the season) he drops the "impossible-to-catch" pass from Ben. You know. It was the perfect spiral that hits his hands in stride between two defenders without having to make any adjustment for a critical touchdown being down against a huge rival. Yeah that impossible catch.

So back to Willie Reid. After watching nearly all of preseason the reason they cut Quincy Morgan was to get this guy dressed and on the 53-man roster. Right? Being 6000 miles from PGH the coaches know what they saw so I give them the benfit of the doubt.

BUT! Since I said this a week ago - at the risk of being a broken record - to this day it is a freakin' mystery to me why Reid isn't dressed.

And Hines Ward. It will snow in paradise before I'm critical of Hines. You know there is no one on the planet who is more displeased with his output than Hines himself. Warrior!

dSharp
09-28-2006, 03:52 PM
Man you are pretty critical of rookies. It's a known fact that it takes awhile for skill position players to get used to the NFL. College is basically a bunch of overhyped high school kids mixed with some real thoroughbreads. The skill level of your opponent in the NFL is one of the biggest things to get used to on the NFL level for young players.

This isn't a pitcher of kool aid. You don't get instant results just by adding water and a little sugar. This is the NFL. I mean you act like this is some video game or something. Holmes is rated high so you want it all. Well, you better get a grip, cuz it's not as easy as pushing the B button to throw and the A button to catch.

HometownGal
09-28-2006, 04:39 PM
Why put wilson at # 2 hes not very impressive right now.....Throw holmes in there and let him earn us trading up (7 ???) spots for hi

If you really stop and think about it, BBFW, none of our receivers are very impressive right now and Hines is still on the mend. Two of them are rooks (and with the addition of Reid to the corps, that makes 3 rooks). They will, in time, gel together as a unit - we just have to be a little more patient with them, I think. :smile:

Haiku_Dirtt
09-28-2006, 04:40 PM
Man you are pretty critical of rookies. It's a known fact that it takes awhile for skill position players to get used to the NFL. College is basically a bunch of overhyped high school kids mixed with some real thoroughbreads. The skill level of your opponent in the NFL is one of the biggest things to get used to on the NFL level for young players.

This isn't a pitcher of kool aid. You don't get instant results just by adding water and a little sugar. This is the NFL. I mean you act like this is some video game or something. Holmes is rated high so you want it all. Well, you better get a grip, cuz it's not as easy as pushing the B button to throw and the A button to catch.

Yeah. You're absolutely right. It is too critical. Sorry Santonio. :hug:

My point was more about why Reid is not activated. I saw little disparity between Holmes and Reid in the preseason. Just someone let me know when I can say Holmes is still behind the learning curve without being too critical. If our receivers dont step up soon we'll all be making "a pitcher of kool aid"... Jim Jones flavored. I think it was grape.

19ward86
09-28-2006, 04:42 PM
i garuntee he will be at least on ST. colclough will be defending only now and not ruining our team as much.

Da Question
09-29-2006, 10:59 AM
Since you brought it up...

Kidding right? As a No. 2 receiver Wilson is anything but underrated.

And with the tremendous hype shoveled into the draft sweepstakes by Buckeyes fans about the greatness of Santonio Holmes :coffee: :yawn: I guess we'll just go to the rookie card for now. Again? Did someone say deep threat? He shows flashes of ellusiveness as often as he shows a lack of knowing how to play the position. 50-50 so far. At least he is young.


Underrated at the # 2 spot . NO (lots of really good #2 wrs)
underated as far as number show or what people see on the field yes.
some may forget but last years playoff run he made some really big plays for us. Holmes needs atleast 8-10 games to develop and by then most rookies start to feel the drain of a long season.even if he did produce more the ced wilson can he do it for the long stretch. i very much doubt it. to go from 10-12 easy games (college) to 16-20 hard games (nfl reg season to suberbowl) most rookies cant do it in their first yr. put holmes in the slot # 3wr and let him learn and make his plays from that spot.