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steelpride12
01-01-2008, 04:13 PM
He's 5-0. Letang is money.

Just happy we got out of there with no injuries and the two points. Stopping the play every five minutes to fix the ice was killing me. Now, time to come back home and beat up on some Maple Leafs.

Sorry good read!
Yes Letang is amazing and im so happy to have 2 great shootout specialists with Christensen and Letang really makes me confident every shoot out!

ShutDown24
01-01-2008, 04:16 PM
Sorry good read!
Yes Letang is amazing and im so happy to have 2 great shootout specialists with Christensen and Letang really makes me confident every shoot out!

Letang is unbelievable. Once a game gets to a certain point I am almost praying for it to go to a shootout because I know we will get the W.

steelpride12
01-01-2008, 04:28 PM
Letang is unbelievable. Once a game gets to a certain point I am almost praying for it to go to a shot-out because I know we will get the W.

Haha exactly, and for the last 2 years the Pens all season are almost at a 95% win rate in a shootout which is god like!

HometownGal
01-01-2008, 06:46 PM
PENS WIN! PENS WIN!
CROSBY IN THE SHOOTOUT WINS IT!
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great game a wonderful event and having our Penguins to represent is amazing!
Ty Conklin is 4-0 as a Penguins with a 2.50 GAA and our streaking Pens winning 4 in a row climbing the ladder in the eastern conference!
Great game Pens!!

I'd have to agree Shut Down. :cheers: I've seen one helluva lot of hockey games in my life, but that game today ranks up there with the best of 'em! What a game!

Conklin was just unbelievable in goal today. Congrats Pens - well done! :thumbsup:

Lord Stiller
01-01-2008, 08:02 PM
Too bad they dont have shootouts in the postseason because the Pens are the best in the NHL at shootouts IMO

Glad to see Ty Conklin is playing so well

Petesburgh66
01-02-2008, 02:16 AM
Too bad they dont have shootouts in the postseason because the Pens are the best in the NHL at shootouts IMO

No thanks. Playoff overtimes are great.

steelpride12
01-02-2008, 08:10 AM
So whats everyone opinion on Brooks Orpik.
He was a healthy scratch until Eaton got injured now he is a normal starter and i actually like it because he is a physical player just like Eaton was and really picks up the slack!

Jeremy
01-02-2008, 08:13 AM
I will make one big observation after yesterday's game:

The Eastern Conference is crazy. Pittsburgh is in 6th right now in the conference. But, they're one point out of second place and four points out of tenth.

The Sens seem to be the only team with any wiggle room.

Jeremy
01-02-2008, 08:34 AM
Winter Classic (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/richard_deitsch/01/01/winter.classic/index.html)

83-Steelers-43
01-02-2008, 09:20 AM
So whats everyone opinion on Brooks Orpik.
He was a healthy scratch until Eaton got injured now he is a normal starter and i actually like it because he is a physical player just like Eaton was and really picks up the slack!

I have the same feelings about Orpik that I did before they benched him in favor of a defenseman who is old and who was sporting a -7 at the time (Sydor). It's stupid to bench one of the very few physical DD's you have on your roster so Sydor can play.

steelpride12
01-02-2008, 11:04 AM
I have the same feelings about Orpik that I did before they benched him in favor of a defenseman who is old and who was sporting a -7 at the time (Sydor). It's stupid to bench one of the very few physical DD's you have on your roster so Sydor can play.

I agree. I think the reason they play Sydor so much is because of him experience in the NHL. The team was tired of young guys getting blamed and they thought bringing a old veteran to defense would help them step up.
Wrong move i think having a young team is great and we have alot to look forward too with Kris Letang and Tyler Kennedy making huge impacts i like the youngsters!

83-Steelers-43
01-02-2008, 01:36 PM
I agree. I think the reason they play Sydor so much is because of him experience in the NHL. The team was tired of young guys getting blamed and they thought bringing a old veteran to defense would help them step up.
Wrong move i think having a young team is great and we have alot to look forward too with Kris Letang and Tyler Kennedy making huge impacts i like the youngsters!

Two points I really don't get about the Sydor signing....

1) The infamous "We need more veterans!!!" cry. We have Gonchar on defense. He's a veteran. We have Eaton, he's been around the block. How many is enough? Hopefully Recchi was a learning lesson for this new era of Penguins hockey.

2) IMO, we needed more defensive defenseman before this season began. We needed one last year. Why go out and get an over the hill defenseman who was known more for his offensive skills than his defensive skills? Sykora signing? Solid move. Sydor signing? Not so solid.

Really don't get it, but what do I know?

steelpride12
01-02-2008, 02:02 PM
Two points I really don't get about the Sydor signing....

1) The infamous "We need more veterans!!!" cry. We have Gonchar on defense. He's a veteran. We have Eaton, he's been around the block. How many is enough? Hopefully Recchi was a learning lesson for this new era of Penguins hockey.

2) IMO, we needed more defensive defense man before this season began. We needed one last year. Why go out and get an over the hill defense man who was known more for his offensive skills than his defensive skills? Sykora signing? Solid move. Sydor signing? Not so solid.

Really don't get it, but what do I know?

Well i agree with everything you just said and stated it perfectly hands down Sydor was a silly move and im hoping we can send that defense men we got in the draft from the minors and GET RID OF SYDOR! He is over the hill, has lost his touch and really does not fit into the young Pens team and im sure soon they will move on without him! Well said!

Lord Stiller
01-02-2008, 02:36 PM
A lot of Sydor hating here. I too was pissed at the slow start he had this season but he has been playing better recently FWIW

What's up with Gonchar turning over the puck behind our own goal so much??????? BIG MISTAKE

steelpride12
01-02-2008, 03:52 PM
A lot of Sydor hating here. I too was pissed at the slow start he had this season but he has been playing better recently FWIW

What's up with Gonchar turning over the puck behind our own goal so much??????? BIG MISTAKE
Well Gonchar does not do that too often and i think the last time he did that was against the Caps, but he is a solid veteran defensemen and hey you can't complain with having the most goal scoring defensemen in the league since 2002!

83-Steelers-43
01-02-2008, 04:21 PM
What's up with Gonchar turning over the puck behind our own goal so much??????? BIG MISTAKE

Said the same thing a few pages back. This year it seems his passing/judgement has been very shaky. From what I've been witnessing all season long, it was not just the one game where he had two assists for the other team.

As for Sydor, at least his +/- went up. Now he's at a -3. I just have a tough time swallowing the fact that you sit your most physical defenseman on at team that is seriously lacking physical play in the defensive zone.

steelpride12
01-02-2008, 04:32 PM
Said the same thing a few pages back. This year it seems his passing/judgement has been very shaky. From what I've been witnessing all season long, it was not just the one game where he had two assists for the other team.

As for Sydor, at least his +/- went up. Now he's at a -3. I just have a tough time swallowing the fact that you sit your most physical defenseman on at team that is seriously lacking physical play in the defensive zone.

Ya Gonchar is no concern for me he is still the excellent defensemen we all know and love he just had an off game and was lucky then never capitalized on them, but Sydor that bum needs to go his style does not fit the expressive style of defense we need.

7/39/43
01-02-2008, 04:41 PM
I would think that snow falling on the ice and accumulating would affect the players' ability to skate. :hunch:

no just makes you skate harder and you notice it the next day ,adds alot of drag to your glide ,but, as conditioned as those kids are they were feeling about mid to end
2nd period its tough let alone a face front wind. man I miss those days as a youngster playing outdoors

83-Steelers-43
01-02-2008, 04:44 PM
Ya Gonchar is no concern for me he is still the excellent defensemen we all know and love he just had an off game and was lucky then never capitalized on them, but Sydor that bum needs to go his style does not fit the expressive style of defense we need.

No doubt. Hate repeating myself, but I'm not calling for the guys head on a silver platter, but I do hold my breath when he takes a pass at the point or when he's moving the puck in his own zone. I can't help it....lol. That can kill your team.

Him helping out Malkin when he first arrived in the states and him helping along Letang is invaluable.

X-Terminator
01-02-2008, 05:26 PM
Just got back from Buffalo for the Classic - what an awesome experience! It was everything I'd hoped it would be, and on top of it, the Pens won! I was sitting on the first level, 12 rows back from the field right at center ice, which I felt were good seats except that we couldn't see the 1/3 of the ice closest to us. But I got a great view of Colby's goal and Sid's game-winner in the shootout :banana: It was also the first sporting event since college at WVU where I stood for the entire game, which was tough at first, but after a period, it didn't bother me at all.

As for the weather, it really wasn't as bad as some were making it out to be - I barely felt the wind and the snow at all. Of course, it helped having on several layers of clothes including thermal underwear, so I was nice and warm all day, except for my toes. The only thing that sucked for me was that there was a huge, fat guy sitting next to me, so I was kinda cramped, but since he was a Pens fan, I didn't complain all that much - LOL! All in all, it was worth every penny I spent to go up there, and if the Pens and Flyers do decide to play outdoors at Penn State like has been rumored, I'd gladly do it again.

fansince - They play the Canadian and American national anthems at every Sabres home game no matter who they're playing, so that's why they did it.

Also, as I stated earlier, the rumored reason Brooks Orpik wasn't playing before Eaton's injury wasn't just to give Sydor playing time, it was because he had a blowup with assistant coach Andre Savard, and Therrien punished him by scratching him. It sounds like something Therrien would do - he does not like insubordination from his players - no different than any coach at any level.

steelpride12
01-02-2008, 07:49 PM
Just got back from Buffalo for the Classic - what an awesome experience! It was everything I'd hoped it would be, and on top of it, the Pens won! I was sitting on the first level, 12 rows back from the field right at center ice, which I felt were good seats except that we couldn't see the 1/3 of the ice closest to us. But I got a great view of Colby's goal and Sid's game-winner in the shootout :banana: It was also the first sporting event since college at WVU where I stood for the entire game, which was tough at first, but after a period, it didn't bother me at all.

As for the weather, it really wasn't as bad as some were making it out to be - I barely felt the wind and the snow at all. Of course, it helped having on several layers of clothes including thermal underwear, so I was nice and warm all day, except for my toes. The only thing that sucked for me was that there was a huge, fat guy sitting next to me, so I was kinda cramped, but since he was a Pens fan, I didn't complain all that much - LOL! All in all, it was worth every penny I spent to go up there, and if the Pens and Flyers do decide to play outdoors at Penn State like has been rumored, I'd gladly do it again.

fansince - They play the Canadian and American national anthems at every Sabres home game no matter who they're playing, so that's why they did it.

Also, as I stated earlier, the rumored reason Brooks Orpik wasn't playing before Eaton's injury wasn't just to give Sydor playing time, it was because he had a blowup with assistant coach Andre Savard, and Therrien punished him by scratching him. It sounds like something Therrien would do - he does not like insubordination from his players - no different than any coach at any level.

Wow dude that must have been great your one lucky guy and if there is one with the Pens and Flyers im def. going to score my self some tickets i was so jealous watching it on TV, but always nice in HD!
So what was the ratio of Buffalo fans to Pens fans becuase obviously with it in NY there were so many Sabre fan, but from what i saw not too many Pens fans, but you were there so what was up with fan ratio's!
Happy you had fun we should hang at a game sounds like alot fun! :thumbsup:

83-Steelers-43
01-02-2008, 08:18 PM
Much like every other rumor being thrown around at this point in time (Orpik vs Savard, Gonchar for Cheechoo, Hossa to Pitts, Oprik to Boston, Malone to Chicago..blah, blah, blah), take it with a grain of salt......

"A source speculates the Penguins may have interest in Blues defenseman Barret Jackman once the trade deadline approaches." - From buzz on the burgh

In other NHL news, it seems Emery is making more trouble. Real classy character. Ottawa needs to kick his ass to the curb and move on with Gerber. Why anybody would pick him after Ottawa dumps him is beyond me......

Ray Emery has long marched to the beat of a different drummer.

There was the mask adorned with the likeness of Mike Tyson. There were the mod clothes. There was the time last spring when he overslept for a team playoff charter and subsequently got in an auto accident while trying to make it to the airport for the flight. There was an alleged road-rage incident prior to the start of the season in which an Ottawa motorist reportedly accused Emery of trying to run him off the road.

Then, there have been this season's antics.

Emery said coach John Paddock told him to "beat it" after arriving late for practice on Friday. The tardiness occurred a day after Emery engaged in a stick-breaking tantrum during an on-ice workout. (If we played as infrequently as Emery has and as poorly as he has when he's had the chance, we might break sticks, too.)

Players and coaches have reportedly questioned his work ethic, and his actions this week reinforced the attitude that the 25-year-old doesn't have the mental tools to be an elite NHL netminder.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=burnside_scott&id=3174891

83-Steelers-43
01-02-2008, 08:36 PM
no just makes you skate harder and you notice it the next day ,adds alot of drag to your glide ,but, as conditioned as those kids are they were feeling about mid to end
2nd period its tough let alone a face front wind. man I miss those days as a youngster playing outdoors

On Sports Beat today, this was the main topic of conversation (The Winter Classic). Savern was completely against having it every year. His main reason being the weather conditions. The starting and stopping to fix the ice. Switching sides in the middle of periods. Pucks slowing down because of snow mounds at center ice. Players slowing down after the first five minutes of each period. He felt it dumbed down the sport. Can't say that I disagree with him.

Also, I thought it was a boring game for the most part. NBC and the NHL should thank their lucky stars it ended in a shootout, but the majority of the game was a sleeper in my opinion. Slow paced and low scoring sloppy hockey.

IMO, it's nothing more than a gimmick, but I guess if it helps them get a few more viewers in New Mexico or Arkansas then more power to them. Personally, I thought it was a dumb idea to have it scheduled on New Years day with all the bowl games going on if that's the case. If they really feel the need to have another one, I hope they wait a few more years instead of having it every year. I have no desire to see another one, let alone attend one.

Oh well, thankfully I will get back to seeing fast pace, tape to tape hockey tomorrow night against Toronto. Should be a good game. Somebody needs to light up Sundin in the first five minutes. That would make my week. Also, the Penguins announcing that they will wear the throwbacks a few times a year would make my week, but I've been hoping for that for I don't know how many years and counting now.

X-Terminator
01-02-2008, 09:30 PM
Wow dude that must have been great your one lucky guy and if there is one with the Pens and Flyers im def. going to score my self some tickets i was so jealous watching it on TV, but always nice in HD!
So what was the ratio of Buffalo fans to Pens fans becuase obviously with it in NY there were so many Sabre fan, but from what i saw not too many Pens fans, but you were there so what was up with fan ratio's!
Happy you had fun we should hang at a game sounds like alot fun! :thumbsup:

We were definitely outnumbered by the Sabres fans - remember, it was a Sabres home game - but I felt we had a good showing, about 5,000-7,000. There were a LOT of Pens fans in my section, as a matter of fact. All in all, it was nice being a part of history, and even though it wasn't the world's best game, it was still fun to watch. If you're an old-school fan like me, you enjoy games like this, because it definitely had an old-school feel to it.

Jeremy
01-03-2008, 08:00 AM
Looks like the Winter Classic was a huge success.

Winter Classic (http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/7628212)

HometownGal
01-03-2008, 10:54 AM
We were definitely outnumbered by the Sabres fans - remember, it was a Sabres home game - but I felt we had a good showing, about 5,000-7,000. There were a LOT of Pens fans in my section, as a matter of fact. All in all, it was nice being a part of history, and even though it wasn't the world's best game, it was still fun to watch. If you're an old-school fan like me, you enjoy games like this, because it definitely had an old-school feel to it.

Did you have too many Molsons XT? :jawdrop: Imho, that was a great game and one of the best I've seen in a long time.

Glad you had such a good time and welcome back! :cheers:

Jeremy
01-03-2008, 11:05 AM
and even though it wasn't the world's best game

Apparently it was the best game played since 1996.

At least the rest of the country thought so.

83-Steelers-43
01-03-2008, 12:08 PM
Apparently it was the best game played since 1996.

At least the rest of the country thought so.

If we are talking about the actual game, then not everybody....

As hockey games go, this contest between the Penguins and the Buffalo Sabres was a bit of a snoozer

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08002/845943-194.stm

If we are talking about the actual gimmick overall, then yeah, not many people see a hockey game played inside a football stadium during a blizzard.

Jeremy
01-03-2008, 12:09 PM
If we are talking about the actual game, then not everybody....



http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08002/845943-194.stm

What's the last time the PG showed enthusiasm for anything?

Bottom line is the ratings show that this game was more popular than anything that's been played since 1996.

83-Steelers-43
01-03-2008, 12:12 PM
I personally have no problem with the PPG, although I prefer the Trib when it comes to hockey.

I'm not doubting the ratings, I'm talking about the actual game. It was a snoozer. Minus the shootout, the three periods before it was pretty boring. Unless you like a 1-1 hockey game at a slow pace with the puck bouncing all over the place. If that's your cup of tea, then yeah, it was an awesome game.

If that game (once again, the actual game, not the overall gimmick) was played at Mellon Arena it would have been forgotten and marked down as another two points.

Jeremy
01-03-2008, 12:17 PM
I personally have no problem with the PPG, although I prefer the Trib when it comes to hockey.

I'm not doubting the ratings, I'm talking about the actual game. It was a snoozer. Minus the shootout, the three periods before it was pretty boring. Unless you like a 1-1 hockey game at a slow pace with the puck bouncing all over the place. If that's your cup of tea, then yeah, it was an awesome game.

If that game (once again, the actual game, not the overall gimmick) was played at Mellon Arena it would have been forgotten and marked down as another two points.

Sure, but it wasn't another game. It was a shot in the arm that the sport really needed. I don't care how boring it was, I watched the whole thing because it was such a cool enviroment.

83-Steelers-43
01-03-2008, 12:19 PM
Sure, but it wasn't another game. It was a shot in the arm that the sport really needed. I don't care how boring it was, I watched the whole thing because it was such a cool enviroment.

Hey to each their own. I just prefer to see a better overall product on the ice.

Like I said, if somebody in Idaho or Arkansas watches the game and enjoys it, great. I'm anxious to hear what they think when they watch a real hockey game after witnessing last Tuesday's game. I'm wondering if the response will be something like "WTF? This is not what I saw last Tuesday?".

steelpride12
01-03-2008, 05:11 PM
Just a reminder that the Pens play Toronto Maple Leafs tonight at 7:30EST and would love for you to turn it on and show your support.
The Leafs are currently in 11th place in the eastern conference and were not tied for 4th and 5th with the Ranger so tonight is an important win!
Go Pens!

HometownGal
01-03-2008, 07:56 PM
Watching the Pens/Leafs game and enjoyed the knock down drag out fight between Darcy Tucker and Jarkko Ruutu. They were going at it pretty good, but I'd have to definitely give the match to Ruutu - he punked Tucker pretty good about a dozen times before the refs broke it up. A bloodied Tucker didn't want to leave the penalty box to get cleaned up. :toofunny:

If anyone finds the video of this fight, can you please post it? One of the best I've seen in a while!

Pens and Leafs tied at 1-1 a little over halfway in the 2nd.

steelpride12
01-03-2008, 08:17 PM
Watching the Pens/Leafs game and enjoyed the knock down drag out fight between Darcy Tucker and Jarkko Ruutu. They were going at it pretty good, but I'd have to definitely give the match to Ruutu - he punked Tucker pretty good about a dozen times before the refs broke it up. A bloodied Tucker didn't want to leave the penalty box to get cleaned up. :toofunny:

If anyone finds the video of this fight, can you please post it? One of the best I've seen in a while!

Pens and Leafs tied at 1-1 a little over halfway in the 2nd.

God that was seriously the best fight i have seen in about ten years wow and i def. give Jarrko the win! Wow and after a slow first period down by one the Pens get 2 goals in the second first by Christensen a wrap around which fired him up. The second goal by Malkin assist by yours truly Crosby with a spin shot and Armstrong!
After the first goal Christensen and Staal came to life making great plays and keeping the buck in the leafs zone and the Pens look very strong!
A strong third period can help us seal the deal and make it 5 straight wins and Conklin will go 6-0 with the Pens as he has played amazingly!
Start of the third period Pens up 2-1
Go Pens!

SteelCityMan786
01-03-2008, 08:47 PM
3 goals in 48 sec. beautiful.

steelpride12
01-03-2008, 08:48 PM
What an amazing third period as the Pens score 3 goals all in 48 SECONDS!!!!!
The first by Tyler Kennedy the young guy 7th of the year!
The Second goal by Malkin his second of the night 17th of the year!
The third by Petr Sykora!
The Pens are on a mean streak with a second fight from Ryan Malone and Bell pretty even fight!
The Pens dominate in the third with 12 min. left Pens 5-1
Go Pens!

steelpride12
01-03-2008, 09:06 PM
MALKIN FIRST EVER HAT TRICK!
CONGRATS!!!
PENS 6-2

steelpride12
01-03-2008, 09:15 PM
Game over Pens with a dominating win 6-2!
Ty Conklin goes to 6-0
and the goal scorers in order:Christensen,Malkin,Kennedy,Malkin,Sykora,and Malkin for the Hat Trick.
The Pens have 4 terrible injuries, but the young guys are stepping up and the Pens are now second in the eastern conference!
Go Pens!

83-Steelers-43
01-03-2008, 10:16 PM
Came out in the first and looked sloppy. Gonchar coughed up the puck on two different occasions and almost cost us two goals. Hopefully somebody on that team will inform him that the Penguins are the ones in the black and vegas gold uniforms. Conklin let up a cheap one but bounced back beautifully.

Second period rolled around and we got our feet under ourselves. Congratulations to Malkin on his first career NHL HT. It was great to see in person. Two beautiful goals by Christensen and Kennedy. Christensen is looking good. Playing a physical game and putting up points in the process. Kennedy gives 100% every shift. Kid works his ass off.

Funny story tonight. Two rows in front of us we had three drunk Maple Leaf fans. The one drunk jagoff had a banner. He was turning around and literally putting in front of our faces while play was going on. Usher came down and warned him once. Then he started swearing with kids around him. Usher came down and warned him twice. He kept acting like a jagoff and then the cop came down, grabbed his beer, grabbed him by the shirt, pulled him up and kicked him out of the arena. Jagoffs, plain and simple.

Anyways, bring on the Florida Panthers.

BTW, this pretty much sums up Darcy Tucker. Cheap bum....

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t266/katem32/b1cbe7fc-4788-4ff6-819b-865b5a53e3e.jpg

X-Terminator
01-03-2008, 11:11 PM
Did you have too many Molsons XT? :jawdrop: Imho, that was a great game and one of the best I've seen in a long time.

Glad you had such a good time and welcome back! :cheers:

I think I did have a few Molsons too many - couldn't help it! :sofunny:

It was just tough to handle the puck when it snowed is all - that's what I meant by not being pretty from that aspect. Plus, some people seem to forget that they only had a week to construct the rink and prepare everything else for the game, so you'd figure there'd be some problems. But once both teams adjusted to the conditions, it was a really fun game to watch. I was not disappointed at all, and apparently a pretty good segment of America wasn't either, as evidenced by the ratings. Nothing wrong with trying to market the sport and gaining some fans!

83-Steelers-43
01-03-2008, 11:24 PM
Some good news on the injury front. Personally, I would sit Hall when Talbot comes back. Not exactly sure what Hall brings to the table. He doesn't hit. He doesn't score. He doesn't set up goals. Hell, he doesn't even shoot the puck.

Penguins center Maxime Talbot skated alone before his teammates as usual yesterday, then stayed out and participated in the morning skate at Mellon Arena.

He'll skate early again today, and if he feels good enough to make it through a full non-game day practice with the team, it could mean he's getting close to returning to the lineup.

He hasn't played since Dec. 8 because of a high ankle sprain.

"It was a really good skate for me," Talbot said. "We'll see [today] if I can stay with the team for a real practice."

Talbot was not close to being ready to play against Toronto last night and is a long shot for tomorrow afternoon's game against Florida, but it's not out of the question that he could return during the Penguins' road trip next week to Florida, Tampa Bay and Atlanta.

"It's weak," he said. "I feel it when I skate. [Wednesday] it was sore. [Yesterday], it's weak but not so sore, so that's better. I don't want to say I'll be back in a week or a certain number of days."

Talbot missed five games with the injury, then came back for four before realizing it was worse than originally thought, so he wants to be cautious about making sure the ankle is sound.

Besides, he said, it's not as if the Penguins have fallen apart without him.

They had won five of six going into last night.

"I'm anxious to play, but I'd be even more anxious to play if they were struggling," said Talbot, who has seven goals, 11 points in 24 games.

No decision on surgery or other course of treatment has been made on defenseman Mark Eaton, who has a torn anterior cruciate knee ligament, or winger Gary Roberts, who has a broken fibula.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08004/846634-61.stm

X-Terminator
01-03-2008, 11:30 PM
Watching the Pens/Leafs game and enjoyed the knock down drag out fight between Darcy Tucker and Jarkko Ruutu. They were going at it pretty good, but I'd have to definitely give the match to Ruutu - he punked Tucker pretty good about a dozen times before the refs broke it up. A bloodied Tucker didn't want to leave the penalty box to get cleaned up. :toofunny:

If anyone finds the video of this fight, can you please post it? One of the best I've seen in a while!

Pens and Leafs tied at 1-1 a little over halfway in the 2nd.

Ask, and ye shall receive! Definitely a win for Ruutu, and of course it makes me happy to see Tucker's face repeatedly get in the way of Ruutu's fist :sofunny:

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X-Terminator
01-03-2008, 11:36 PM
And just for good measure, here is Malone vs. Bell. I give the win to Malone here by TKO:

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ShutDown24
01-03-2008, 11:56 PM
Game over Pens with a dominating win 6-2!
Ty Conklin goes to 6-0
and the goal scorers in order:Christensen,Malkin,Kennedy,Malkin,Sykora,and Malkin for the Hat Trick.
The Pens have 4 terrible injuries, but the young guys are stepping up and the Pens are now second in the eastern conference!
Go Pens!

KENNEDY! Lets go Pens! :alcohol:

83-Steelers-43
01-04-2008, 12:04 AM
KENNEDY! Lets go Pens! :alcohol:

That was one hell of a goal. Showed great hands. The kid definately has heart, determination and a good work ethic. Never stops skating hard.

HometownGal
01-04-2008, 08:16 AM
Thanks for the videos, XT! :cheers: I loved the Ruutu/Tucker fight (and I know you loved watching your "favorite player" *cough* *cough* get his a$$ kicked) - Jarkko is amazingly quick once he gets those hands free. Always so enjoyable! :sofunny: Malone really showed some grit beating up on Bell like that and I'd have to give him the W too. :sofunny:

Great game by the Pens and again, Conklin looked pretty darned good in goal.

I'm looking forward to going to the game tomorrow against the Panthers. Looks like tomorrow is going to be Florida day with the Steelers playing the Jags and he Pens playing the Panthers. Hope the Steelers and Pens come away with W's so they can send all of the the sunshine boys home. :thumbsup:

7/39/43
01-04-2008, 11:39 AM
Don't get no better than that dominating Toronto and 1 point out of first. Let's get 1st before the break and run it till the cup runneths over
LET'S GO GUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

X-Terminator
01-04-2008, 09:52 PM
According to Sportsnet.ca, Malone broke Bell's orbital bone in their fight last night. Looks like those boxing lessons have paid off for Ryan, because he couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag before this season. Sucks for Bell, but that's the risk you take every time you drop the gloves. Too bad it wasn't Tucker though.

Story:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/01/04/bell_sidelines/

Also, here's a link to the story about Orpik's blow-up with the coaches, which quotes a story from the New York Post, so people know that I don't just talk out of my ass:

http://www.pittsburghsportsinsider.com/?p=1835

83-Steelers-43
01-04-2008, 10:10 PM
A notable number of players in the room harbor bitter feelings toward head coach Michel Therrien and assistant Andre Savard. There is resentment, we’re told, over the manner in which veteran Mark Recchi was waived. Ruutuu and Gary Roberts have asked for trades.

They sure as hell are not playing like it. Sorry NY Post, I'm not buying any of it.

Do me a favor though, stick to the Rangers and Islanders. Stir up some bullshit with those two teams and let us be on our roll. Oh btw, it's Ruutu, not Ruutuu. Keep up the excellent credibility...lol.

steelpride12
01-05-2008, 11:00 AM
Alright guys yes the Steelers have a very IMPORTANT game coming up!.....But before that at 3:00 PM EST the Florida Panthers visit the Pens at Mellon Arena and i need your helping cheering the Pens on to a 6 game win streak!!!
LETS GO PENS!

83-Steelers-43
01-05-2008, 11:14 AM
I was debating on going to the Pens game today, but I would be cutting it close to the Steelers game. If it were a 1:00 start I might be able to pull it off. I would literally have to leave Mellon Arena and drive directly to Heinz Field. I would have to change from my Penguins gear into my Steelers gear on the way to Heinz. Just too much of a pain in the ass.

Plus, rather go to the Steelers playoff game anyways..lol.

Ended up giving the tickets to two of my buddies and they are going to have a good time. I did my good deed for today.

SteelCityMan786
01-05-2008, 12:30 PM
I was debating on going to the Pens game today, but I would be cutting it close to the Steelers game. If it were a 1:00 start I might be able to pull it off. I would literally have to leave Mellon Arena and drive directly to Heinz Field. I would have to change from my Penguins gear into my Steelers gear on the way to Heinz. Just too much of a pain in the ass.

Plus, rather go to the Steelers playoff game anyways..lol.

Ended up giving the tickets to two of my buddies and they are going to have a good time. I did my good deed for today.

I would have tried to pull it off myself to.

I wish I actually could go to a playoff game

Pittsburghers and Pittsburgh Sports fans alike aren't classy for nothing. :cheers:

steelpride12
01-05-2008, 02:20 PM
Wow the Pens aew an unstoppable force right now as its still early in the first and our Pens are up 2 to nothing on Florida with goals from Tyler Kennedy which is his 8th of the season already and one easy shot by Malkin on the power play!
Go Pens!

83-Steelers-43
01-05-2008, 02:25 PM
With the opportunities they are getting in this first period the score should be 5-0 Pens. Panthers look flat and the Penguins look like they were shot out of a cannon.

Armstrong, Malone and Gonchar had beautiful chances, Gonchar's in particular. Would love to see us get a thrid one before the period ends. Hall taking the blatant penalty in the Panthers zone won't help those chances.

83-Steelers-43
01-05-2008, 02:27 PM
I would have tried to pull it off myself to.

I wish I actually could go to a playoff game

Pittsburghers and Pittsburgh Sports fans alike aren't classy for nothing. :cheers:

I would have made kickoff, but if I went to the Pens game today I would miss the tailgating. Leaving here at 5:00 and will be down there by 5:15. Crack the first cold one by 5:20 and be inside Heinz Field by 7:45. :wink02:

steelpride12
01-05-2008, 02:36 PM
With the opportunities they are getting in this first period the score should be 5-0 Pens. Panthers look flat and the Penguins look like they were shot out of a cannon.

Armstrong, Malone and Gonchar had beautiful chances, Gonchar's in particular. Would love to see us get a thrid one before the period ends. Hall taking the blatant penalty in the Panthers zone won't help those chances.

A strong reason for this win streak and spark we have is from the great play we have and production from ALL the lines.
There all extremely balanced and young guys are stepping up and making plays like Kennedy, Letang, and Christensen with an added spark himself!

83-Steelers-43
01-05-2008, 02:39 PM
Panthers are completely wiffing on some of these opportunities. Very fortunate for the bad bounces. Defense needs to box out. Guys are wide open and roasting marshmellows with Conlkin back there.

Man, Ruutu has a nice shiner courtesty of Darcy Tucker. Wow.

83-Steelers-43
01-05-2008, 02:43 PM
A strong reason for this win streak and spark we have is from the great play we have and production from ALL the lines.
There all extremely balanced and young guys are stepping up and making plays like Kennedy, Letang, and Christensen with an added spark himself!

Very impressed with Kennedy. His work ethic was apparent when he first came up. That's normally the case with all young kids getting their shot at the NHL level, but he has kept it up since and is producing in the process. He's not scared to get his nose dirty in front of the net and get the dirty goals. Gotta love it.

Vokoun standing tall and our boys (Malone, Gonchar, Army) not putting it away are the only reasons why this game is not five or six to zero right now. We will start out the second with 1:41 on our PP and a nice smooth clean sheet of ice. Take advantage of it and put these guys away early.

steelpride12
01-05-2008, 02:46 PM
Panthers are completely wiffing on some of these opportunities. Very fortunate for the bad bounces. Defense needs to box out. Guys are wide open and roasting marshmellows with Conlkin back there.

Man, Ruutu has a nice shiner courtesty of Darcy Tucker. Wow.

Agreed. Florida has had at least 2 or 3 chances in front of the net, but either missed or wiffed on the shot in which very likely could have been a goal.
The defense needs to get more physical in front of the net and i think that is def. where we miss Eaton the most!

steelpride12
01-05-2008, 02:47 PM
Yes Pens up 2-0 after first period and pretty dominate game so far with the Pens looking strong and awake with an added extra spark!
Go Pens!

83-Steelers-43
01-05-2008, 03:15 PM
Florida's chances are starting to rise in the second and Conklin is looking great. Good rebound control and he passes and handles the puck better than Gonchar. Very solid play. Goalie situation reminds me of when Hedberg came along.

steelpride12
01-05-2008, 03:20 PM
Yes the second period is more of a slow paced one, but Florida get many more chances and 3 on 2, 2 on 1 chances, but Conklin is doing an excellent job stopping the puck and limiting rebounds!

SteelCityMan786
01-05-2008, 03:35 PM
Florida's chances are starting to rise in the second and Conklin is looking great. Good rebound control and he passes and handles the puck better than Gonchar. Very solid play. Goalie situation reminds me of when Hedberg came along.

Ahhhh yes, the moose.

83-Steelers-43
01-05-2008, 03:38 PM
2-0 after two. Still not liking the fact we were unable to get that third goal. Stinks I'm going to miss a good portion of this third. The Steelers better make it worth it...lol.

SteelCityMan786
01-05-2008, 04:10 PM
2-0 after two. Still not liking the fact we were unable to get that third goal. Stinks I'm going to miss a good portion of this third. The Steelers better make it worth it...lol.

Hopefully We can sweep the Pittsburgh Doubleheader.

steelpride12
01-05-2008, 04:41 PM
Pens win 6 in a row and Conklin is now a perfect 7-0 as the Pens sweep the Panthers 3-0 at Mellon arena!
Goal scorers were Tyler Kennedy, Evgeni Malkin, and Syd the Kid with the final goal as the pens look very strong during the mid point of the season and climb the eastern conference ladder.
The production of all the lines and the step up of all the injuries are truly fueling the fire of this Penguin attack!
Go Pens!

SteelCityMan786
01-05-2008, 05:32 PM
3-0 Beautiful. Conklin is money in net.

83-Steelers-43
01-06-2008, 08:59 AM
Hopefully We can sweep the Pittsburgh Doubleheader.

1 out of 2 aint bad. The game was worth it. Definately a heart breaker, but much like our defeats to the Patriots in years past, when we do win playoff games in the future it makes them much more enjoyable. You do not take them for granted.

As always, had a good time eitherway. Now it's time for the Steelers to fix some glaring problems during the offseason and see how far our Pens will go.

SteelCityMan786
01-06-2008, 02:43 PM
1 out of 2 aint bad. The game was worth it. Definately a heart breaker, but much like our defeats to the Patriots in years past, when we do win playoff games in the future it makes them much more enjoyable. You do not take them for granted.

As always, had a good time eitherway. Now it's time for the Steelers to fix some glaring problems during the offseason and see how far our Pens will go.

Vince Lombardi's Trophy will be ours soon again!

Not to mention Lord Stanley's!

(And the WS trophy if Pirates get their heads out of their ass)

7/39/43
01-06-2008, 04:01 PM
[QUOTE=

(And the WS trophy if Pirates get their heads out of their ass)[/QUOTE]

that might be pushing it a bit to far there

SteelCityMan786
01-06-2008, 04:20 PM
that might be pushing it a bit to far there

Yeah it might, but hey, I was honest.

83-Steelers-43
01-07-2008, 09:39 AM
Penguins make 2 call-ups as they hit the road
Monday, January 07, 2008
Shelly Anderson, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Penguins today recalled defenseman Ryan Lannon and forward Ryan Stone from their Wilkes-Barre/Scranton farm team. The team said it needs roster flexibility as it embarks on a week-long road trip.

Stone had 7 goals and 26 assists for the Baby Penguins. Lannon had 19 assists.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08007/847348-100.stm

Lord Stiller
01-07-2008, 10:49 AM
I heard Talbot went on I.R.

is this true?

this article states he is close to returning: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08004/846634-61.stm

83-Steelers-43
01-07-2008, 01:31 PM
I heard Talbot went on I.R.

This is from January 4, 2008....

Penguins center Maxime Talbot skated alone before his teammates as usual yesterday, then stayed out and participated in the morning skate at Mellon Arena.

He'll skate early again today, and if he feels good enough to make it through a full non-game day practice with the team, it could mean he's getting close to returning to the lineup.

He hasn't played since Dec. 8 because of a high ankle sprain.

"It was a really good skate for me," Talbot said. "We'll see [today] if I can stay with the team for a real practice."

Talbot was not close to being ready to play against Toronto last night and is a long shot for tomorrow afternoon's game against Florida, but it's not out of the question that he could return during the Penguins' road trip next week to Florida, Tampa Bay and Atlanta.

"It's weak," he said. "I feel it when I skate. [Wednesday] it was sore. [Yesterday], it's weak but not so sore, so that's better. I don't want to say I'll be back in a week or a certain number of days."

Talbot missed five games with the injury, then came back for four before realizing it was worse than originally thought, so he wants to be cautious about making sure the ankle is sound.

Besides, he said, it's not as if the Penguins have fallen apart without him.

They had won five of six going into last night.

"I'm anxious to play, but I'd be even more anxious to play if they were struggling," said Talbot, who has seven goals, 11 points in 24 games.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08004/846634-61.stm

83-Steelers-43
01-07-2008, 01:31 PM
Well earned.....

Penguins goalie among NHL stars of the week
Monday, January 07, 2008
By Shelly Anderson, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Penguins goaltender Ty Conklin was named the NHL's No. 3 star of the week after going 3-0 with a shutout and a .972 save percentage.

Conklin, who is filling in for injured starter Marc-Andre Fleury, earned a 2-1 shootout win with 36 saves in the Winter Classic outdoor game at Buffalo, made 33 saves in a 6-2 win over Toronto and stopped 35 shots in a 3-0 win over Florida.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08007/847372-100.stm

steelpride12
01-07-2008, 08:48 PM
Well earned.....

Penguins goalie among NHL stars of the week
Monday, January 07, 2008
By Shelly Anderson, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Penguins goaltender Ty Conklin was named the NHL's No. 3 star of the week after going 3-0 with a shutout and a .972 save percentage.

Conklin, who is filling in for injured starter Marc-Andre Fleury, earned a 2-1 shootout win with 36 saves in the Winter Classic outdoor game at Buffalo, made 33 saves in a 6-2 win over Toronto and stopped 35 shots in a 3-0 win over Florida.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08007/847372-100.stm

Wow def. well earned and hats off to him! :jammin::thumbsup:

steelpride12
01-07-2008, 08:49 PM
I heard Talbot went on I.R.

is this true?

this article states he is close to returning: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08004/846634-61.stm

No if anything he is just getting more healthy and i expect to see him playing in around a month and it will be worth the wait!

SteelCityMan786
01-07-2008, 08:57 PM
Well earned.....

Penguins goalie among NHL stars of the week
Monday, January 07, 2008
By Shelly Anderson, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Penguins goaltender Ty Conklin was named the NHL's No. 3 star of the week after going 3-0 with a shutout and a .972 save percentage.

Conklin, who is filling in for injured starter Marc-Andre Fleury, earned a 2-1 shootout win with 36 saves in the Winter Classic outdoor game at Buffalo, made 33 saves in a 6-2 win over Toronto and stopped 35 shots in a 3-0 win over Florida.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08007/847372-100.stm

VERY well earned.

Conklin finally get the respect he deserves. :toofunny:

Lord Stiller
01-07-2008, 09:43 PM
No if anything he is just getting more healthy and i expect to see him playing in around a month and it will be worth the wait!

Cool. Talbot is a pretty decent role player and he was off to a hot start this season untill being injured

83-Steelers-43
01-08-2008, 09:13 AM
• Center Maxime Talbot left practice Monday with a sore back. Coach Michel Therrien said the injury was not related to a right ankle sprain that has forced Talbot to miss about a month.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_546315.html

• With the NHL's trade deadline approaching (Feb. 26, 3 p.m.), it is no surprise to anybody within the Penguins organization that Internet-generated speculation is in full swing. Several team officials found a recently posted Web rumor -- center Jordan Staal to Atlanta for winger Marian Hossa -- equally hilarious and absurd. Though any club, including the Penguins, would willingly listen to a proposal that could net Hossa, who has scored 16 goals and recorded 38 points this season, he is not available. Neither, Penguins officials insist, is Staal, who has scored only three goals in his second season.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_546315.html

83-Steelers-43
01-08-2008, 12:32 PM
Crosby named all-star starter
Tuesday, January 08, 2008
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Penguins center Sidney Crosby was named Tuesday as a starter for the NHL's Eastern Conference all-star team.

Crosby, the reigning NHL MVP, has 17 goals and 40 assists in 41 games. Crosby, with 507,274 votes, had the most votes of any player in the league in fan all-star balloting.

Also starting on the Eastern Conference team are forwards Vincent LeCavalier of Tampa Bay and Daniel Alfredsson of Ottawa; and defensemen Andrei Markov of Montreal and Zdeno Chara of Boston. The goaltender will be New Jersey's Martin Brodeur.

For the Western Conference, Vancouver's Robero Luongo will start in goal. The forwards are Detroit's Henrik Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk and Calgary's Jerome Iginla. The defensemen are Detroit's Nicklas Lidstrom and Calgary's Dion Phaneuf.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08008/847596-100.stm

SteelCityMan786
01-08-2008, 05:04 PM
Crosby named all-star starter
Tuesday, January 08, 2008
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Penguins center Sidney Crosby was named Tuesday as a starter for the NHL's Eastern Conference all-star team.

Crosby, the reigning NHL MVP, has 17 goals and 40 assists in 41 games. Crosby, with 507,274 votes, had the most votes of any player in the league in fan all-star balloting.

Also starting on the Eastern Conference team are forwards Vincent LeCavalier of Tampa Bay and Daniel Alfredsson of Ottawa; and defensemen Andrei Markov of Montreal and Zdeno Chara of Boston. The goaltender will be New Jersey's Martin Brodeur.

For the Western Conference, Vancouver's Robero Luongo will start in goal. The forwards are Detroit's Henrik Zetterberg and Pavel Datsyuk and Calgary's Jerome Iginla. The defensemen are Detroit's Nicklas Lidstrom and Calgary's Dion Phaneuf.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08008/847596-100.stm

To those who keep whining about Crosby, get used to seeing him as a Starter in the All-Star game.

83-Steelers-43
01-08-2008, 05:37 PM
To those who keep whining about Crosby, get used to seeing him as a Starter in the All-Star game.

Jealousy is a bitch. :wink02:

Look no further than these two knuckleheads from Vancouver (great city BTW)......

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These two wackadoo's have a three part series on why they feel Sid sucks.....LOL. I wonder if they would be making these clips if Sid was wearing a Canuck jersey? There is no reasoning with these people. You are better off holding a conversation with a brick wall. Also, it seems to me that Kirk spends way too much time on that couch.

BTW, when I heard "overrated", I stopped watching......so I'm not sure what is said after that. Crushzilla, just giving you a heads up and I apologize if these two jagoffs start stripping.

Anyways, now the damn dreaded Florida roadtrip.....blah.

83-Steelers-43
01-08-2008, 06:45 PM
Wow, talk about a franchise who is hurting.........Panthers are selling two tickets for $50.00 total. That's to see Sidney Crosby.

Two quick penalties for Florida and we fail on both. 0-0 after one.

SteelCityMan786
01-08-2008, 07:30 PM
Need goals NOW!

83-Steelers-43
01-08-2008, 07:46 PM
1-0 Pens baby!!!!! Sykora!!! Ask and you shall receive SCM....lol. Please, keep asking!!!!

83-Steelers-43
01-08-2008, 07:50 PM
2-0 Pens!!!! The "overrated" Sidney Crosby splits the D and scores!!!!!!!!! F-ing beautiful.

83-Steelers-43
01-08-2008, 07:52 PM
3-0 Pens!!!! Laraque. Vokoun has been pulled. Bring on Anderson. If we win this game tonight, SCM is #1 star..

SteelCityMan786
01-08-2008, 07:58 PM
1-0 Pens baby!!!!! Sykora!!! Ask and you shall receive SCM....lol. Please, keep asking!!!!

hahaha.

Need goals NOW!

SteelCityMan786
01-08-2008, 07:59 PM
3-0 Pens!!!! Laraque. Vokoun has been pulled. Bring on Anderson. If we win this game tonight, SCM is #1 star..

:toofunny::toofunny::toofunny:

SteelCityMan786
01-08-2008, 08:05 PM
2nd Period was fun making Florida our Bitch. Maybe we can make the state such.

steelpride12
01-08-2008, 08:08 PM
Pens come out strong during 2nd period scoring 3 unanswered goal to make it 3-0 Pens after two.
Goal scores from: Petr Sykora, Syndey Crosby, and Big Laraque!
Its always nice to see big George score seeing its only his third of the season its still great to see him score.
Crosby's was AMAZING, but still no surprise with him splitting the defense for an easy go ahead goal.

steelpride12
01-08-2008, 08:10 PM
Sykora is by far my favorite Penguin!
I love his ability to keep up with Crosby and he is just a craft veteran with a QUICK shot and one timer which he scores most of his goals with.
Im extremely happy we picked him up he has contributed so much and is on the 3rd line!
They brought him in to play along side Crosby and Malkin, but for some reason took him off like to help out the other struggling lines, but to me he would be much more productive on the first line even though he has 13 goals on the 3rd line!

83-Steelers-43
01-08-2008, 08:45 PM
4-0 Ruutuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!! !!!

NY Post, talk to me!!!!!

83-Steelers-43
01-08-2008, 08:46 PM
Now they are calling it a no-goal which IMO is B.S.

SteelCityMan786
01-08-2008, 08:53 PM
Now they are calling it a no-goal which IMO is B.S.

Only reason I believe they called it off was because of the whistle.

Time to ice it on the power play.

steelpride12
01-08-2008, 08:59 PM
Ruutu was ROBBED!

steelpride12
01-08-2008, 09:00 PM
Pens win with the final score 3-1!
The Pens are now riding a 7 game win streak as their next ten opponents are losing teams and a great advantage to really take any kind of lead in their division and the eastern conference!
Go Pens! :)

X-Terminator
01-09-2008, 02:45 AM
I just want a win in Tampa. They've beaten us 14 straight times, which is OWNED in anyone's book.

83-Steelers-43
01-09-2008, 02:20 PM
Eaton's season ends

Penguins defenseman Mark Eaton will have season-ending reconstructive surgery on his right knee Monday.

Eaton has not played since his anterior cruciate ligament was torn when Boston forward Marco Sturm knocked his legs out from him in a 4-2 Penguins victory Dec. 23 at Mellon Arena.

Eaton, who played primarily with Sergei Gonchar on the Penguins' top defense pairing, had three assists, four penalty minutes and 89 blocked shots in 36 games this season. He will be an unrestricted free agent July 1.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08009/847765-61.stm

83-Steelers-43
01-09-2008, 02:49 PM
More trade rumors....

Penguins right winger Georges Laraque & head coach Mike Therrien had words near the end of the 2nd period after Laraque finished his shift. Sources indicate Laraque is not happy about being taking off the third line and it showed in his play Saturday afternoon.

Published reports have indicated the Penguins have interest in Glen Murray but my sources have dismissed those reports.

If Ty Conklin continues his stellar play the Penguins will have a very difficult decision to make when Marc Andre Fleury returns. Who will they keep-- Sabourin or Conklin?. The obvious choice is to keep Conklin but the front office loves Sabourin.

Ray Shero is behind the coaching staffs decision to re-unite Evgeni Malkin and Sidney Crosby. It's believed Shero would like to keep the combo together and he is still looking to acquire another top 6 forward (Center or Wing). Colby Armstrong has played well on the top unit but there have been too many instances where he has failed to bury the puck.

The Penguins continue to express an interest in Canadiens rw Michael Ryder but the Habs asking price remains Colby Armstrong.

The Penguins have inquired about Thrashers right winger Marion Hossa but there has been no indications that Ray Shero is willing to trade Jordan Staal for him.

http://depaoli.theinsideronpittsburghsports.com-a.googlepages.com/thelatestnhlbuzz2

There is also a Rob Blake rumor flying around. The Laraque rumor I can buy to a degree. If I recall correctly his mouth got him in trouble in Phoenix on a few occasions, one reason why 99 wanted him gone.

Lord Stiller
01-09-2008, 02:59 PM
Well they better not even think about trading Laraque.

Staal has really gotten worse after a great rookie campaign but I'm not so sure they should give up on him yet

steelpride12
01-09-2008, 03:07 PM
Well they better not even think about trading Laraque.

Staal has really gotten worse after a great rookie campaign but I'm not so sure they should give up on him yet

I agree Staal is having a sophomore slump and all the things went his way last year and this year its going down right bad for him and i hope to see him wake up sometime soon!

83-Steelers-43
01-09-2008, 03:10 PM
Staal has really gotten worse after a great rookie campaign but I'm not so sure they should give up on him yet

While I think more should be expected of Staal than what he has brought to the table this season, I'm also keeping in mind that the kid is only 19 years old.

One aspect of Staal's game that has me shaking my head is that he's not aggressive enough. Kid has a huge frame, go to the net and get the dirty goals. The majority of the goals he scored this season he got by parking himself in front of the net and netting rebounds. He doesn't do it enough.

Jeremy
01-09-2008, 03:12 PM
[/QUOTE]If I recall correctly his mouth got him in trouble in Phoenix on a few occasions, one reason why 99 wanted him gone.[/QUOTE]


Yeah.....I don't think so. 99 might have been a hell of a hockey player, but he sucks as a coach. The Coyotes are a pure bottom feeder and there are probably more than a few guys fed up with losing there. If The Rock had issues with 99, that's more on 99 than The Rock.

Lord Stiller
01-09-2008, 03:14 PM
While I think more should be expected of Staal than what he has brought to the table this season, I'm also keeping in mind that the kid is only 19 years old.

One aspect of Staal's game that has me shaking my head is that he's not aggressive enough. Kid has a huge frame, go to the net and get the dirty goals. The majority of the goals he scored this season he got by parking himself in front of the net and netting rebounds. He doesn't do it enough.

I agree.

Also, remember last year in the playoffs, Staal was one of the few bright spots on our team (along with Crosby and Roberts) that actually played well

83-Steelers-43
01-09-2008, 03:14 PM
Yeah.....I don't think so. 99 might have been a hell of a hockey player, but he sucks as a coach. The Coyotes are a pure bottom feeder and there are probably more than a few guys fed up with losing there. If The Rock had issues with 99, that's more on 99 than The Rock.

Not stating 99 is a great coach. He's the opposite in my opinion, just simply stating that there were reports out of Phoenix that his mouth got him in trouble on a few occasions. Now there are reports that him and Therrien are going at it. Just putting two and two together.

I'm not sure who had the "issues" with who because I wasn't there, just pointing out that there were reports that Laraque's mouth got him in trouble. Now we are on a winning streak and there are reports that him and Therrien are going back and forth at each in between periods.

Jeremy
01-09-2008, 03:24 PM
Not stating 99 is a great coach. He's the opposite in my opinion, just simply stating that there were reports out of Phoenix that his mouth got him in trouble on a few occasions. Now there are reports that him and Therrien are going at it. Just putting two and two together.

I'm not sure who had the "issues" with who because I wasn't there, just pointing out that there were reports that Laraque's mouth got him in trouble. Now we are on a winning streak and there are reports that him and Therrien are going back and forth at each in between periods.

You know, I like a little fire in players. I don't mind some mouthing off between players and coaches. It shows players want to win.

83-Steelers-43
01-09-2008, 03:28 PM
You know, I like a little fire in players. I don't mind some mouthing off between players and coaches. It shows players want to win.

I'm not crazy about it, particulary when our team is on a roll and we are fighting for the #1 spot in our division. The last thing this team needs is a cancer. I'm also not crazy about it when it occurs in front of 17,000+ people.

Personally, I would rather see him handle it like Colby Armstrong handled his benching. Not a line shuffle, a benching. He kept his mouth shut, focused on his next opportunity and took advantage of it when he was put back in the lineup.

But, maybe that's just me.

83-Steelers-43
01-09-2008, 03:36 PM
Also FWIW, another complaint the Phoenix organization had with Larque was that he did not play a full season. When he first arrived he was playing his heart out. Playing physical, fighting, etc. etc. Then halfway through the season he went quiet.

Much like how he did with us last season in the playoffs.

Jeremy
01-09-2008, 03:46 PM
Also FWIW, another complaint the Phoenix organization had with Larque was that he did not play a full season. When he first arrived he was playing his heart out. Playing physical, fighting, etc. etc. Then halfway through the season he went quiet.

Much like how he did with us last season in the playoffs.

LOL

The Coyotes would need to get rid of their whole roster in that case. Look, I wouldn't believe much of what you read out of Phoenix. The idiots out here worship 99 like some kind of God and anytime there's a conflict between a player and 99,, it's always made out to be the player's fault.

83-Steelers-43
01-09-2008, 04:06 PM
LOL

The Coyotes would need to get rid of their whole roster in that case. Look, I wouldn't believe much of what you read out of Phoenix. The idiots out here worship 99 like some kind of God and anytime there's a conflict between a player and 99,, it's always made out to be the player's fault.

I wouldn't buy it if I did not see signs of it with my own eyes last year during the playoffs. Unfortunately, he did go AWOL when the team needed him most. He was a complete non-factor while we were getting physically abused. It's not as if he was playing on a horribly coached Phoenix Coyote team at the time.

As long as he doesn't become a cancer on a young hockey team who is currently playing great hockey or decides to quit come crunch time, I have no problem with the guy. Do your job and don't be a cancer. Simple really.

X-Terminator
01-09-2008, 07:05 PM
RE: Jordan Staal, there is more to his game than scoring. He's a very good defensive player and excellent penalty killer, and knows how to use his long reach to his advantage. Those are all things that are valuable to any hockey team. I do think, however, that he should be switched to wing permanently - with his size and reach, he could develop into a John LeClair-type of player with better defensive skills. Evidently the Thrashers see that, or something similar, if they want him in a trade for Marian Hossa. Would I make that deal? I don't know. But to get a player like Hoss, you have to give up something good in return.

RE: Armstrong for Ryder - I would probably make this trade. Ryder is horrible defensively, but I think Therrien can fix that. He is a right-handed shooter with a cannon for a shot, and if you put him on the LW with Sid and Geno, he would light the lamp often. He is also a very good PP specialist. I love Army, but while he does bring a lot of grit to the table and plays very well with Sid, he simply isn't scoring enough to merit being on the top line.

RE: Georges Laraque - One of the reasons I was hesitant about him coming here was because of the things coming out of Phoenix about him not being happy about his ice time, and getting into it with Gretzky as a result. On top of that, he was not aggressive enough for me as an enforcer. Obviously he wants a larger role on the team, and considering he plays the game well for an enforcer, I can understand that. But his primary job is to play physical and protect Sid and Geno, and I expect him to do that job. If he's not happy, as is rumored, OK, but handle it like a pro, get out there and do your job when you're called upon. Same goes for Brooks Orpik , Darryl Sydor or anyone else who has had problems with the coaches or are unhappy about being benched. I think it's a testament to the job Sid has done as the captain and leader of the team that the Pens continue to win despite these little blowups, because things could have certainly gone down the shitter when the team was struggling in late November.

GoFins11
01-10-2008, 06:28 PM
Good luck to you Pens fans tonight againt the Bolts. I am a Bolt fan but I really like this Pens team.

GO BOLTS

SteelCityMan786
01-10-2008, 06:44 PM
We need goals NOW

83-Steelers-43
01-10-2008, 08:05 PM
We need goals NOW

Ask and you shall receive (again).....lol.

2-1 Pens. Staal going to the front of the net. Beautiful goal.

steelpride12
01-10-2008, 08:20 PM
Pens leading after the second period 2-1 with both goals coming from Jordan Staal which is def. a positive change speaking he only has 5 on the year!
The bolts are def. putting pressure on us but without Conks they would be winning 3-2 or 4-2 easily. That one save he made was AMAZING the glove save!

Borski
01-10-2008, 08:36 PM
We're not getting any help from the Hurricanes. Devils beat Hurricanes 4-1

steelpride12
01-10-2008, 08:47 PM
Did anyone see the sandwich of the day from Orpik it was a beauty!

83-Steelers-43
01-10-2008, 08:49 PM
Did anyone see the sandwich of the day from Orpik it was a beauty!

Gotta love the physical play he brings to the defense.

83-Steelers-43
01-10-2008, 08:57 PM
3-1 Pens. Malone.

steelpride12
01-10-2008, 08:58 PM
Ryan Malone scores to make it Pens 3-1 with about 2:00 min. which should close this game out!
Great game Pens!

83-Steelers-43
01-10-2008, 09:00 PM
4-1 pens. malkin

steelpride12
01-10-2008, 09:01 PM
Malkin empty net 4-1 Pens!

steelpride12
01-10-2008, 09:02 PM
Pens win with the final score 4-1!
Jordan Staal playing like last year had first 2 goals playing well in front of the net.
The second goal added by Ryan Malone and final goal and empty netter from Malkin his 20th of the year!
The Pens are now on an 8 game win streak and good ol' Conks is riding a 9 game win streak...Congrats and keep it up!
GO PENS!

SteelCityMan786
01-10-2008, 09:51 PM
Hello Tampa, here's what we have to say to your old winning streak against us.:flipoff::upyours:

GoFins11
01-11-2008, 01:37 AM
Hello Tampa, here's what we have to say to your old winning streak against us.:flipoff::upyours:

:coffee:

X-Terminator
01-11-2008, 02:13 AM
I'm just glad we ended the nearly 5 year losing streak to them - that was getting toward the ridiculous stage. It's also nice to get 2 wins in FL for a change - can't remember the last time that happened.

BTW, Alex Ovechkin signed a 13-year contract extension for (according to Yahoo! Sports) $124 million, which at $9.54 million per season surpasses Crosby's extension and will make him the highest paid player in the league.

Story from the Caps' website: http://capitals.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=349546

Lord Stiller
01-11-2008, 07:56 AM
BTW, Alex Ovechkin signed a 13-year contract extension for (according to Yahoo! Sports) $124 million, which at $9.54 million per season surpasses Crosby's extension and will make him the highest paid player in the league.

Story from the Caps' website: http://capitals.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NewsPage&articleid=349546

I'm pretty sure Crosby wasn't the highest paid player in the league before AO's extension

X-Terminator
01-11-2008, 08:56 AM
I'm pretty sure Crosby wasn't the highest paid player in the league before AO's extension

Crosby will be making $8.7 million per season starting next year, which would have made him the highest paid player had Ovechkin not signed his extension.

Jeremy
01-11-2008, 09:02 AM
And which one will be playing post season hockey this season......

pittsburghp8baller
01-11-2008, 10:12 AM
2007-2008 Highest Paid Players

1. Daniel Briere $10 Million
2. Scott Gomez $10 Million
3. Thomas Vanek $10 Million
4. Jaromir Jagr $8.36 Million
5. Kimmo Timmonen $8 Million
6. Brad Richards $7.8 Million
7. Nick Lidstrom $7.6 Million
8. Zdeno Chara $7.5 Million
9. Patrick Elias $7.5 Million
10. Ryan Smyth $7.5 Million

Crosby's 8.7 starts next year. under the current cap restrictions no player can make more than 10 million a year OV will be making about 9.5 a year

Lord Stiller
01-11-2008, 11:47 AM
Crosby will be making $8.7 million per season starting next year, which would have made him the highest paid player had Ovechkin not signed his extension.

highest paid after Briere, Vanek and Gomez (how the F did Gomez get that much???)

Lord Stiller
01-11-2008, 12:57 PM
the rest of the lineup was announced for the All-Star game:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=11345

Gonchar is the only other Penguin player to make it. I was hoping Malkin would make it

SteelCityMan786
01-11-2008, 03:47 PM
the rest of the lineup was announced for the All-Star game:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?fid=11345

Gonchar is the only other Penguin player to make it. I was hoping Malkin would make it

I'M CALLING FOR A RECOUNT!!!!!!! :sofunny:

TackleMeBen
01-11-2008, 03:56 PM
I'M CALLING FOR A RECOUNT!!!!!!! :sofunny:

Steelman, it dont matter... the west is going to win the all star game...:wink02:. they have red wing players on it.. that is all that matters... :flap:

SteelCityMan786
01-11-2008, 04:10 PM
Steelman, it dont matter... the west is going to win the all star game...:wink02:. they have red wing players on it.. that is all that matters... :flap:

They don't have the best player in hockey! The East Does! :flap:

X-Terminator
01-11-2008, 09:58 PM
highest paid after Briere, Vanek and Gomez (how the F did Gomez get that much???)

I'm not talking about total contract dollars, I'm talking about the amount per season. Briere, Vanek and Gomez all got less money per season than Crosby. If you want to go by total dollars, then you'd still have been wrong, as both Mike Richards (12 years, $69.5 million) and Rick DiPietro (15 years, $65 million) got more total dollars than all of them.

Also, props to Sergei Gonchar for making the All-Star team - he has definitely earned it. He has been solid all season so far, and would probably still be leading the league in scoring among D-men had he not gotten hurt earlier. As for Malkin, I can see why he got passed over given some of the talent ahead of him in the scoring race, but he continues to be the most underrated and underappreciated player in the NHL.

EDIT: Just saw the other post with the salaries for next season - I stand corrected, as I didn't take into account that those contracts may have been front-loaded. I'll leave the rest of my post as is, because it is still correct if you take into account the average salary per season.

X-Terminator
01-11-2008, 10:17 PM
Plus, how the hell does Kimmo Timonen make more money than Nicklas Lidstrom? Or Sergei Gonchar for that matter? He's nowhere NEAR worth $8 million - he's not even in the top 25 scorers among defensemen this season for crying out loud! He's never finished higher than 11th among D-men in scoring in his career, but he's somehow worth more than a multiple Norris Trophy winner and a guy who's only been in the top 10 in scoring each of the past 6 seasons and lead the league in 01-02 and 03-04? He's worth Jagr and Crosby-type money? Give me a break!

Makes you wonder how much Gonchar is going to get in his next contract if Kimmo f'ing Timonen gets that much...

SteelCityMan786
01-11-2008, 10:21 PM
Plus, how the hell does Kimmo Timonen make more money than Nicklas Lidstrom? Or Sergei Gonchar for that matter? He's nowhere NEAR worth $8 million per season - he's not even in the top 25 scorers among defensemen this season for crying out loud! He's never finished higher than 11th among D-men in scoring in his career, but he's somehow worth more than a multiple Norris Trophy winner and a guy who's only been in the top 10 in scoring each of the past 6 seasons and lead the league in 01-02 and 03-04? He's worth Jagr and Crosby-type money? Give me a break!

Makes you wonder how much Gonchar is going to get in his next contract if Kimmo f'ing Timonen gets that much...

It sure does make me wonder XT.

pittsburghp8baller
01-12-2008, 10:32 AM
dam thats how dominant the senators have been so far this year they r gonna have their own first line playing at the same time!

looking at the rosters i gotta give the edge to the west. east may have crosby and OV but top to bottom the west has a deeper roster

X-Terminator
01-12-2008, 09:00 PM
Recchi comes back to haunt the Pens tonight with the shootout winning goal and Atlanta wins, 3-2 to end the Pens' and Conklin's winning streak. Atlanta really came on in the third and really took that extra point away from the Pens, who looked like they lost some steam late in the game. Still though, they got the extra point and end up with 5 of 6 points on the road trip and stay 2 points behind those damn Devils, who just keep winning.

Now it's back home against the Rangers. They've made a lot of hay against teams outside the division, so it would be nice if they could win a division game for once.

SteelCityMan786
01-13-2008, 03:51 PM
Recchi comes back to haunt the Pens tonight with the shootout winning goal and Atlanta wins, 3-2 to end the Pens' and Conklin's winning streak. Atlanta really came on in the third and really took that extra point away from the Pens, who looked like they lost some steam late in the game. Still though, they got the extra point and end up with 5 of 6 points on the road trip and stay 2 points behind those damn Devils, who just keep winning.

Now it's back home against the Rangers. They've made a lot of hay against teams outside the division, so it would be nice if they could win a division game for once.

Unfortunately it bit us, but oh well.

Here's to beating the Rangers! :cheers:

pittsburghp8baller
01-13-2008, 04:31 PM
Plus, how the hell does Kimmo Timonen make more money than Nicklas Lidstrom?

i watched the fylers caps game today and i gotta say he seems to be worth the 8 a year. he is the quarterback of the second ranked powerplay in the NHL. and they are second for a reason. he is also a big force in front of the net. he pushes people out of the way and limits the rebound opportunitys for the offense. maybe not exactly worth 8 but i can see way they would be willing to pay it. gonchar prob should make that much after his contract is up. unfortunatly we prob wont be able to keep him then.

oh ya and starting next crosby will be the fifth highest paid player in the NHL. vanek, briere, and gomez are making the max amount of money, then followed by ovechkin who will be making jus over 9 this year(makes jus over 9 first 7 years then around 10 last part). then will be crosby with the 8.7

X-Terminator
01-13-2008, 05:50 PM
i watched the fylers caps game today and i gotta say he seems to be worth the 8 a year. he is the quarterback of the second ranked powerplay in the NHL. and they are second for a reason. he is also a big force in front of the net. he pushes people out of the way and limits the rebound opportunitys for the offense. maybe not exactly worth 8 but i can see way they would be willing to pay it. gonchar prob should make that much after his contract is up. unfortunatly we prob wont be able to keep him then.

oh ya and starting next crosby will be the fifth highest paid player in the NHL. vanek, briere, and gomez are making the max amount of money, then followed by ovechkin who will be making jus over 9 this year(makes jus over 9 first 7 years then around 10 last part). then will be crosby with the 8.7

He's the QB of the Flyers' PP...but only has 21 points? It would seem to me that your PP QB should have more points than that. IMO, Briere is the guy who really makes their PP go. And as for clearing guys in front of the net, they can find people who can do that for a hell of a lot less than $8 million. Sorry, I'm just not convinced he's worth the money - when guys like Mark Streit, Mike Green and Michal Roszival have more points, how can I not? Nicklas Lidstrom is only the best D-man in the league - Timonen couldn't carry his jock.

Thanks for the correction on Crosby's salary for next season. Something just doesn't seem right for him not being the highest paid player in the league, and that Briere and especially Vanek and Gomez make more.

Also, does anyone think maybe the Pens should have re-signed Sid to a 10+ year deal? I'm not sure I'd agree with the length, but it does make me a bit uncomfortable now knowing that in 5 years he'll be a UFA when AO and Mike Richards will still be playing for their teams.

pittsburghp8baller
01-13-2008, 07:13 PM
He's the QB of the Flyers' PP...but only has 21 points? It would seem to me that your PP QB should have more points than that. IMO, Briere is the guy who really makes their PP go. And as for clearing guys in front of the net, they can find people who can do that for a hell of a lot less than $8 million. Sorry, I'm just not convinced he's worth the money - when guys like Mark Streit, Mike Green and Michal Roszival have more points, how can I not? Nicklas Lidstrom is only the best D-man in the league - Timonen couldn't carry his jock.

Thanks for the correction on Crosby's salary for next season. Something just doesn't seem right for him not being the highest paid player in the league, and that Briere and especially Vanek and Gomez make more.

Also, does anyone think maybe the Pens should have re-signed Sid to a 10+ year deal? I'm not sure I'd agree with the length, but it does make me a bit uncomfortable now knowing that in 5 years he'll be a UFA when AO and Mike Richards will still be playing for their teams.

i cant really justify the 8 million either. he doesnt really get a lot points yes but every power play goes through him first and he does it well.

Lord Stiller
01-14-2008, 09:28 AM
Sweet! The game vs the Rangers is on Versus tonight!

I get to actually watch a game on TV for once!

SteelCityMan786
01-14-2008, 06:31 PM
2-0 Not even 10 minutes into the game scored by 1 person. MALKIN YOU ARE RIDICULOUS!

SteelCityMan786
01-14-2008, 06:57 PM
3-0 through 1. Just wow. Great way to respond to a loss so far.

Lord Stiller
01-14-2008, 07:03 PM
WOW!!! You gotta love Malkin!!!!!

Roszival takes a cheapshot on Malkin and instead of retaliating at that moment, he waits till the drop the puck and levels Roszival on a clean hard check!

Lord Stiller
01-14-2008, 07:33 PM
Conklin is playing awesome tonight

Lord Stiller
01-14-2008, 08:19 PM
Watching Malkin and Crosby work together is a thing of beauty. They really need to give Malkin an extension ASAP

SteelCityMan786
01-14-2008, 08:34 PM
Put the nail in the coffin. WE WIN!

SteelCityMan786
01-14-2008, 08:36 PM
Wow, no fights needed guys. 5.7 left till you add 2 more points.

Lord Stiller
01-14-2008, 08:43 PM
Wow, no fights needed guys. 5.7 left till you add 2 more points.

LOL. Dubinsky tried starting a fight then Ruutu drills him off the faceoff, i love it!

HometownGal
01-14-2008, 09:38 PM
Watching Malkin and Crosby work together is a thing of beauty. They really need to give Malkin an extension ASAP

Doesn't it frost your a$$ that Malkin wasn't selected for the All Star Game? :dang::dang:

XT and I were at the game tonight - Conklin is just amazing in the net. He never loses sight of that puck - the guy is so focused it is almost sick. Great game by the Pens and congrats to Geno on his 2nd hat trick of the season! :cheers:

SteelCityMan786
01-14-2008, 10:31 PM
Doesn't it frost your a$$ that Malkin wasn't selected for the All Star Game? :dang::dang:

XT and I were at the game tonight - Conklin is just amazing in the net. He never loses sight of that puck - the guy is so focused it is almost sick. Great game by the Pens and congrats to Geno on his 2nd hat trick of the season! :cheers:

A friend of mine who is Rangers fan went to the game. I shall have fun stuffing it to him.

X-Terminator
01-15-2008, 04:47 AM
Doesn't it frost your a$$ that Malkin wasn't selected for the All Star Game? :dang::dang:

XT and I were at the game tonight - Conklin is just amazing in the net. He never loses sight of that puck - the guy is so focused it is almost sick. Great game by the Pens and congrats to Geno on his 2nd hat trick of the season! :cheers:

And to rub salt in the wound, Marc Savard of the Bruins was selected over Malkin to take Dany Heatley's spot, even though Malkin has better numbers all around. Friggin ridiculous. It shows once again that Malkin simply does not receive the credit he deserves. Yes, a lot of that is because Sid gets all of the media attention, therefore he gets overlooked. But the kid is a bona fide superstar, and we're extremely lucky to have him in the black and gold.

It was a great game to watch - more than anything, I'm glad they finally got a win against an Atlantic Division opponent, which have been few and far between this season so far. I never expected Conklin to be this good - he's so cool and confident, and he's almost always in perfect position to make saves. The Pens definitely have a decision to make when MAF comes off IR. If Conklin is still playing well, I think they have to play him - I'm a believer in riding the hot hand until he cools off.

It's too bad we left the game early though - Ruutu nearly starts a line brawl and Adam Hall fights Jordan Staal's brother Marc, and we missed it! :dang: Ah well...here's a clip of it anyway:

M_dWvuL-o0w

Lord Stiller
01-15-2008, 07:32 AM
Yeah the refs screwed that one up. Dobinsky of the Rangers dropped his gloves for no reason looking to fight Taffe I think. I thought you were supposed to get a penalty for that? Anyways, they left him out there and Ruutu nails him right off the faceoff with only a few seconds left lol

83-Steelers-43
01-17-2008, 08:55 PM
Penguins Q&A with Dave Molinari
Thursday, January 17, 2008
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


Q: What are the chances the Pens make a run at Marian Hossa at the trade deadline if Atlanta can't get him re-signed? Surely he would be a rental, but imagine what that extra scoring power would do to an offense with only three serious major goal-scorers. Do you think it would be worth the push for the Cup?


Bob Shelton, Greenfield


MOLINARI: There's no question that Hossa has the potential to be a real difference-maker for some team this spring, even though his personal playoff history is rather lackluster (13 goals and 22 assists in 55 games), but it does not make sense -- on several levels -- for the Penguins to pursue him if the Thrashers put him on the market.

It would be different if the Penguins were just one quality winger away from a serious run at a Stanley Cup but, at this stage in their development, that simply isn't the case. A year or two from now, making a high-stakes move to upgrade a specific area of their lineup might be a no-brainer for management. At this point, however, quite the opposite is true.

For starters, the asking price for Hossa -- again, assuming he is made available before the Feb. 26 trade deadline -- figure to be exorbitant, because it's reasonable to believe several teams will be seriously interested in trading for him. Atlanta was on the other side of the equation a year ago, when it grossly overpaid to get Keith Tkachuk from St. Louis, so is well aware of how much an accomplished veteran can be worth at this time of year. For the Penguins to surrender a number of quality assets -- be it young players, top prospects or high draft choices -- just wouldn't be prudent to get a player who might be around for just a few months.

Even if the Penguins were able to acquire Hossa, there's no guarantee they'd be able to re-sign him and, if they were, it likely would involve giving him a fairly long-term contract worth $7 million or so per season. Because retaining their own players -- particularly young talent like Evgeni Malkin, Jordan Staal and Marc-Andre Fleury -- is the Penguins' top priority, it's far from certain that they would have the resources, let alone the salary-cap space, to make such a commitment to Hossa.


Q: While watching Monday night's game against the New York Rangers, I noticed that many Penguins fans still feel a large amount of resentment toward Jaromir Jagr (obviously for the way he left the team years ago). After he's retired, do you think that a) the Penguins organization will retire his number 68, and b) that the resentment of so many fans will fade?


Chris, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada


MOLINARI: People who buy tickets to sporting events are allowed to behave any want they want (provided they don't break any laws or other regulations, of course), but it really is mystifying why so many people at Mellon Arena feel the need to boo Jagr every time he touches the puck here. No matter how they feel about the circumstances that preceded his departure in 2001, nearly seven years have passed, and it seems reasonable to suggest that it's time to move on. (Based on the volume and tone of e-mails submitted to the Q&A over the past few days, a lot of other people feel that way, too.)

Holding onto that much hostility can't be healthy and, frankly, the treatment Jagr receives here probably says as much, or more, about the people doing the booing than it does about him. It certainly didn't reflect well on them that Jagr, in his role as the Rangers' captain, was jeered Monday even as he presented linesman Mark Pare with a stick signed by the entire New York team to mark Pare's 2,000th game. (Sidney Crosby did the same with a stick signed by the Penguins.)

Jagr's accomplishments during his 11 seasons here would make him a worthy candidate for having his number retired someday, but the Penguins seem intent -- commendably so, in the opinion of the moderator of this forum -- on making that a most exclusive honor. The thinking here, at least for now, is that the Penguins won't retire another number for 15 years or so and that when it happens, it will be 87, not 68.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08017/849634-125.stm

X-Terminator
01-18-2008, 03:20 AM
...but it really is mystifying why so many people at Mellon Arena feel the need to boo Jagr every time he touches the puck here. No matter how they feel about the circumstances that preceded his departure in 2001, nearly seven years have passed, and it seems reasonable to suggest that it's time to move on. (Based on the volume and tone of e-mails submitted to the Q&A over the past few days, a lot of other people feel that way, too.)

Holding onto that much hostility can't be healthy and, frankly, the treatment Jagr receives here probably says as much, or more, about the people doing the booing than it does about him. It certainly didn't reflect well on them that Jagr, in his role as the Rangers' captain, was jeered Monday even as he presented linesman Mark Pare with a stick signed by the entire New York team to mark Pare's 2,000th game.

Well Dave, let me break it down to you on a level that even an idiot should be able to understand...

If Jagr handled his situation with class before he left, he wouldn't get booed. He didn't. Instead, in his typical whiny prima donna fashion, he chose to whine and cry about it, and left behind a LOT of mailed-in efforts along the way. But what really got the fans upset was when he was traded to Washington, not a week after the deal went down, he badmouthed the city and the team, and by proxy, Mario Lemieux. Badmouthing Mario Lemieux in this town is nearly akin to badmouthing the Rooney family, Jack Lambert or Roberto Clemente. Do that, and you deserve to be booed for the rest of your life. Did Ulf Samuelsson, Ron Francis, Martin Straka and Alex Kovalev behave the way Jagr did when they left/were traded? Nope. Hence, they don't get booed when they come back here. Simple, really.

And this sentiment is not exclusive to Pens fans. Ask a Capitals fan how they feel about Jagr, and how glad they were to see him shipped out of town. Even Rangers fans get on his ass today because he still pulls the same shit he did late in his Pens career and in Washington - lazy, uninspired hockey, and wouldn't know how to be a leader if it cross-checked him in the face. I mean, the guy refused to take shootouts last season until late in the year when he was forced to because of injuries, because according to him, "he wasn't any good at it." You're the team's best friggin player, Jagr - you should be out there! Did Sid tell Mike Therrien that he didn't want to participate in shootouts because he's not any good at them? NO. Why? Because that's what leaders do. Rangers fans still get on his ass about that, and rightfully so.

So I hope this has been an enlightening moment...and if it hasn't been, too bad. Cover your ears if you don't want to listen to the fans here booing Jagr.

83-Steelers-43
01-18-2008, 11:14 AM
Because retaining their own players -- particularly young talent like Evgeni Malkin, Jordan Staal and Marc-Andre Fleury

In order to get great you have to give up good (Staal, high picks, WBS talent). I'm still up in the air if I would want to give up that much talent in order to get a Hossa, but I am getting very tired of watching Colby Armstrong miss opportunity after opportunity. The guy should have 25 goals while playing on that line. Again, this is not a knock on Colby. I just do not feel he has the talent to score on a consistant basis while playing on the #1 line. Love the guy's intensity, personality and attitude, but I feel he is better suited on a #2 or #3 line.

be it young players, top prospects or high draft choices -- just wouldn't be prudent to get a player who might be around for just a few months.

That's why you tie him up long term and backload his contract. If he doesn't accept it, then forget it.

People who buy tickets to sporting events are allowed to behave any want they want (provided they don't break any laws or other regulations, of course),

Agree completely. Much like with those fickle Steeler fans who boo at Steeler games. They have the right to boo all they want, that doesn't mean they don't sound and look like complete morons and that the majority of fans around them simply look at them, roll eyes and shake heads.

nearly seven years have passed

Half the people in that arena probably didn't even know what the term forecheck meant seven years ago. Does the passing of time really surprise you? lol.

(Based on the volume and tone of e-mails submitted to the Q&A over the past few days, a lot of other people feel that way, too.)

Good to know I'm not the only one out there...lol. Now that I think about it, the boo's during our last meeting with the Rangers were relatively quiet compared to year's past. Comforting to know many are finally starting to get over it and moving on. Much like those fickle Steeler fans when it came to Bradshaw.

the treatment Jagr receives here probably says as much, or more, about the people doing the booing than it does about him.

You can say that again.

It certainly didn't reflect well on them that Jagr, in his role as the Rangers' captain, was jeered Monday even as he presented linesman Mark Pare with a stick signed by the entire New York team to mark Pare's 2,000th game. (Sidney Crosby did the same with a stick signed by the Penguins.)

Very classy move by both players. Hats off.

Jagr's accomplishments during his 11 seasons here would make him a worthy candidate for having his number retired someday

Would like to see it someday. Thankfully that decision is up to the Penguins and not up to a few idiots. The Penguins had a team before 1992? Wow.

83-Steelers-43
01-18-2008, 11:17 AM
Q: Marc Savard? Evgeni Malkin has the highest point total of any player not chosen for the All-Star Game. What gives?

Dave, Frelinghuysen, N.J.

MOLINARI: Well, if you stop to think about it, every year somebody has the highest point total among the guys who won't be in the All-Star Game; it just happens to be Malkin this time.

Penguins partisans were predictably unhappy when the NHL's Hockey Operations department bypassed Malkin to name Savard, a center with Boston, the replacement for injured Ottawa winger Dany Heatley on the Eastern Conference squad. That's completely understandable, but the reality is that every year -- and in every sport -- deserving players don't make it into all-star games. (Malkin, by the way, deserves credit for accepting responsibility for his failure to get into the game, saying through an interpreter that he has to "work harder in the future" to make sure that he is selected.)

Of course, you could make a case that the league did Malkin a favor by leaving him out of the game, since he'll now get a few days off when guys who are participating will have to travel and take part in a game that doesn't count for anything. This just reinforces the moderator of this forum's long-time belief that if the league truly wanted to do right by its finest players, it would select the all-star teams, then give those guys a weekend off while making the rest of the league play.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08018/850081-125.stm

pittsburghp8baller
01-18-2008, 01:43 PM
daniel alfredsson left last nights game with a hip flexor. the senators say that its not serious and it was jus for precaution. alfredsson missed some time last year with the same problem so he may decide to opt out of the all-star game making room for malkin

SteelCityMan786
01-18-2008, 06:19 PM
Time to take the light from Tampa.

pittsburghp8baller
01-18-2008, 08:55 PM
Sid Out with a high ankle sprain! im not watching the game but its all over NHL.com!

X-Terminator
01-18-2008, 09:19 PM
And with Crosby's high ankle sprain, goes the Pens' playoff hopes right down the drain.

Bad news at the WORST possible time.

SteelCityMan786
01-18-2008, 09:32 PM
Hopefully Geno and Staal can help bring these guys together.

HometownGal
01-19-2008, 06:05 AM
And with Crosby's high ankle sprain, goes the Pens' playoff hopes right down the drain.

Bad news at the WORST possible time.

I wouldn't go quite that far, XT. I believe Sid's presence will be felt in the locker room and still on the ice even with him watching the games from the press box. Have a little faith! :wink02:

Crosby hurt; Penguins fall, 3-0
Crosby leaves game at 7:37 of first period, does not return and will be out indefinitely

Saturday, January 19, 2008
By Shelly Anderson, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Penguins and storybook goaltender Ty Conklin finally lost in regulation, 3-0. Their shot at taking over the Atlantic Division lead wilted. Evgeni Malkin's point streak was stopped after six games. And the matchup between the Penguins' Sidney Crosby and Tampa Bay's Vincent Lecavalier never developed.

Not exactly a stellar scenario, but all of that meant little after the 7:37 mark of the first period last night at Mellon Arena.

That's when Crosby, the team captain who entered the game tied with Lecavalier for the NHL scoring lead, left after he got what the team described as a high ankle sprain -- an injury that often carries a recovery time measured in weeks or months.

Crosby did not make the trip with the team to Montreal for the game tonight and will be re-evaluated today, although team officials cautioned that it could be a few days before the extent of the injury and a timeline for his return can be established.

"He's the best player in the world. You can't replace him," defenseman Brooks Orpik said.

Crosby, the leading vote-getter for the All-Star Game next weekend, was helped off the ice after his right foot bent awkwardly as he slammed into the end boards.

He is the third Penguins player with a high ankle sprain this season.

Center Maxime Talbot missed four games in late November and returned only to discover he had come back too early. He then was out another month.

Goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury -- whose injury has opened the door for Conklin to steal a lot of headlines -- left early from a Dec. 6 game and could be out another two weeks to a month or longer.

"It's a huge loss," coach Michel Therrien said of Crosby. "He's the heart, our leader. We're going to battle through. A lot of guys are going to have to pick it up."

A lot of offensive responsibility will fall to Malkin, who recently has been Crosby's linemate.

"I'm going to try my best to play my best," a downcast Malkin said.

Malkin would be a likely candidate to replace Crosby in the All-Star lineup.

On the play, Crosby got the puck at center ice and zoomed toward the net. He angled slightly to his right in an attempt to get around Tampa Bay defenseman Paul Ranger, and the two got tangled.

Crosby's right leg jutted out at an awkward angle, and he slid down to the ice and slammed right-foot-first into the end boards.

He rolled over to his knees, got up slowly and put some weight on his right skate.

Within a few seconds, he glided toward the Penguins' runway without pushing off with his right skate and, slumped, was helped into the locker room.

"When I saw him leave the ice, I got the feeling it was pretty scary," Therrien said.

Crosby is the reigning league scoring champion and MVP. The Penguins are 0-2-2 when he does not dress for a game since he entered the league in 2005-06. He missed three games with a groin injury as a rookie -- an injury he got in a game against Tampa Bay -- and one game last season because of the flu. He has dressed for every game this season.

If Crosby misses significant time, it will be a loss felt throughout the NHL. He has become the face of the league.

"He's done so much for the league and every player in the league," Lecavalier said after yesterday's morning skate. "He's brought the game to a new level, recognition to the game. He's a great marketing guy for the league."

The Penguins had been on a 9-0-1 run, and Conklin had been 10-0-1 since he was recalled from Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, but backup goaltender Johan Holmqvist stopped 27 shots for the Lightning's first shutout of the season.

The Lightning took a 1-0 lead when winger Kyle Wanvig picked up his sixth NHL goal at 4:34 off a feed from defenseman Mike Lundin.

After Crosby was hurt, Tampa Bay made it 2-0.

Chris Gratton, set up in the slot by former Penguin Andre Roy, slipped a backhanded shot under Conklin at 10:51.

Tampa Bay sealed things when Roy -- an unlikely offensive hero -- picked up his third point of the night with a goal at 5:32 of the third period. His lofted shot from the slot got past two players on its way to the net.

Through it all, the Penguins kept hoping Crosby would return.

"He takes a lot of abuse the way he plays and battles right through it," Orpik said. "We knew when he didn't come back it had to be something rather serious.

"But you can't feel sorry for yourselves. You have to move on and battle through it."

SteelCityMan786
01-19-2008, 01:04 PM
Not to mention HTG, Geno is still playing well and some other guys have really started to step up to. So this is a time for others to show up. Hopefully his sprain isn't as long as Fleury's has been.

Lord Stiller
01-19-2008, 01:15 PM
Damn, that sucks!!!!

Just when we were making a push to take the division

Oh well, time for people to step up

SteelCityMan786
01-19-2008, 01:17 PM
Damn, that sucks!!!!

Just when we were making a push to take the division

Oh well, time for people to step up

That's the spirit!

83-Steelers-43
01-19-2008, 01:34 PM
Severity of Crosby's injury still unclear
Saturday, January 19, 2008
By Dave Molinari, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

MONTREAL -- Penguins center Sidney Crosby had his injured right ankle examined by the team's training staff in Pittsburgh today, but will not undergo a full evaluation until early next week, after the swelling subsides.

Team officials still do not have a timetable for how long he is expected to be out of the lineup, although his next examination could lead to a prognosis.

Crosby, the leading vote-getter for the All-Star game next weekend, got a high ankle sprain during the first period of the Penguins' 3-0 loss to Tampa Bay at Mellon Arena last night after his right foot bent awkwardly as he slid into the boards behind the Lightning net.

He did not accompany the Penguins to Montreal for their game against the Canadiens tonight at 7:08.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08019/850682-100.stm

83-Steelers-43
01-19-2008, 01:39 PM
Sidney Crosby is the last player that this team could afford to lose. It's really no different than losing the best starting QB in the NFL.

If this team makes a deep playoff run or a wins a Stanley Cup without him this season I will eat my words, but IMO, this is a MAJOR blow. We are talking about the most talented player in the league.

I will still cheer the team on as I always do....through thick and thin, but I'm not going to sit here and be in denial of the situation. This sucks.

X-Terminator
01-19-2008, 03:48 PM
I wouldn't go quite that far, XT. I believe Sid's presence will be felt in the locker room and still on the ice even with him watching the games from the press box. Have a little faith! :wink02:

I'd really like to, seriously. But I still think we're boned. Sid is the guy that stirs the drink for the Pens. With him out of the lineup, everything sinks to the bottom. This is a devastating blow to a team that was making a real push at not only the division title, but with Ottawa's injuries, they could have made a run at the top seed in the East. Now, there's a real chance that the team may not even make the playoffs, given how close the standings are from top to bottom. There's really no way to sugarcoat it.

HometownGal
01-19-2008, 08:34 PM
Pens win 2-0 against the Habs in Montreal! :thumbsup:

You doubting Thomases were saying? :flap::sofunny:

X-Terminator
01-19-2008, 09:12 PM
Pens win 2-0 against the Habs in Montreal! :thumbsup:

You doubting Thomases were saying? :flap::sofunny:

Yeah, yeah, yeah...:flap: I'll eat crow tonight, but let's see how they do over the next month or so. I'm still not very optimistic. Plus, we lost Armstrong tonight and Adam Hall didn't play at all in the 3rd period that I can remember. The LAST thing we need is more injuries.

On another note, Malkin was simply outstanding tonight. Played out of his mind at both ends of the ice. How the guy didn't get a star is beyond me - he was the best player on the ice all night long. If he can play like that the rest of the way, it would be a huge help to the team. They need him to bring it every night if they have any chance of staying in the playoff picture.

Welcome to first place, ladies and gentlemen! Enjoy it while it lasts! :cheers:

SteelCityMan786
01-19-2008, 09:16 PM
Yeah, yeah, yeah...:flap: I'll eat crow tonight, but let's see how they do over the next month or so. I'm still not very optimistic. Plus, we lost Armstrong tonight and Adam Hall didn't play at all in the 3rd period that I can remember. The LAST thing we need is more injuries.

On another note, Malkin was simply outstanding tonight. Played out of his mind at both ends of the ice. How the guy didn't get a star is beyond me - he was the best player on the ice all night long. If he can play like that the rest of the way, it would be a huge help to the team. They need him to bring it every night if they have any chance of staying in the playoff picture.

Welcome to first place, ladies and gentlemen! Enjoy it while it lasts! :cheers:

Hopefully it's one of those spots we're able to gain some space and get comfortable with.

HometownGal
01-19-2008, 09:26 PM
Yeah, yeah, yeah...:flap: I'll eat crow tonight, but let's see how they do over the next month or so. I'm still not very optimistic. Plus, we lost Armstrong tonight and Adam Hall didn't play at all in the 3rd period that I can remember. The LAST thing we need is more injuries.

On another note, Malkin was simply outstanding tonight. Played out of his mind at both ends of the ice. How the guy didn't get a star is beyond me - he was the best player on the ice all night long. If he can play like that the rest of the way, it would be a huge help to the team. They need him to bring it every night if they have any chance of staying in the playoff picture.

Welcome to first place, ladies and gentlemen! Enjoy it while it lasts! :cheers:

Keep your pessimism to yourself. I'm going to savor this victory. :flap::flap:

Sabourin was great in goal tonight and I felt Ruutu played a very good game. You are right about Malkin - he was just amazing.

I am going to enjoy first place and I refuse to succumb to the doubting Thomas-ism. I believe in these guys and I'm not going to throw in the towel this early - even before the halfway point in the season - because Sid is going to be out for a month or so, even though his skates are virtually impossible to fill. Where there's a will - there's always a way.

SteelCityMan786
01-19-2008, 09:28 PM
Keep your pessimism to yourself. I'm going to savor this victory. :flap::flap:

Sabourin was great in goal tonight and I felt Ruutu played a very good game. You are right about Malkin - he was just amazing.

I am going to enjoy first place and I refuse to succumb to the doubting Thomas-ism. I believe in these guys and I'm not going to throw in the towel this early - even before the halfway point in the season - because Sid is going to be out for a month or so, even though his skates are virtually impossible to fill. Where there's a will - there's always a way.

You and me both HTG :thumbsup:

83-Steelers-43
01-20-2008, 09:00 AM
Definately a steal last night. Your not going to beat many teams 1-0 (open netter) unless they have eight total wins at home all season long.....like Montreal.

Still a good win and I'll definately take the two. Unfortunately, Sidney Crosby is going to miss more than one game and we still have 35 more games to play. I believe we are now 1-4 overall (counting last season) when playing without him. Sorely missed on the PP.

Also, only in Montreal will they give two stars of the game to Montreal Canadian players after getting shut out. That was a joke, much like when Hamrlik put Army into the boards and it was not considered interference.

On that note, I would love to have a defenseman like Mike Komisarek. Guy is a beast. Definately a smart #7 overall pick by the Canadians back in 2001.

Lord Stiller
01-20-2008, 12:01 PM
Wow, that coast to coast play Malkin made was pretty amazing

Sabourin played great., like he wants to keep his job over Conklin.

Big game tomorrow. I hate the Caps!

Lord Stiller
01-20-2008, 12:03 PM
who is Army?

SteelCityMan786
01-20-2008, 12:06 PM
who is Army?

Colby Armstrong

83-Steelers-43
01-20-2008, 12:19 PM
who is Army?

Colby Armstrong.

Ten seconds into the game, Hamrlik and Armstrong were racing for the puck in the corner boards and Hamrlik knocked him off his skates and he went hip/ass first into the boards. No call. Armstrong came back out on the ice but soon left the game after attempting to play.

The funny part, later in the game (a little over a minute into the second period), they called a penalty on Hamrlik for interference on Ruutu and it was basically the exact same interference hit Hamrlik put on Colby Armstrong early in the first period.

Inconsistency to say the least.

Lord Stiller
01-20-2008, 01:07 PM
Colby Armstrong.

Ten seconds into the game, Hamrlik and Armstrong were racing for the puck in the corner boards and Hamrlik knocked him off his skates and he went hip/ass first into the boards. No call. Armstrong came back out on the ice but soon left the game after attempting to play.

The funny part, later in the game (a little over a minute into the second period), they called a penalty on Hamrlik for interference on Ruutu and it was basically the exact same interference hit Hamrlik put on Colby Armstrong early in the first period.

Inconsistency to say the least.

Ahhhh, i see.

Ya, i remember a play just like that a few games ago where Malkin bumped someone on the way to a loose puck and got the interference call

83-Steelers-43
01-20-2008, 04:13 PM
Never happy to see anybody get injured, but the Adam Hall injury doesn't really concern me. Would love to see any of the three mentioned below stay up here and receive more playing time than Adam Hall. Hopefully they get a shot and they give Adam Hall a rest....along with his -2 and 2 goals on the year up to this point.

Or do we only bench our most physical defensive defenseman and Colby Armstrong when they are not producing? Just wondering.....:coffee:

Pens recall 3 from Wilkes-Barre, return one to Baby Penguins
By Dave Molinari, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Penguins have recalled three players from their farm team in Wilkes-Barre and returned another to the Baby Penguins.

Forwards Chris Minard, Tim Brent and Jonathan Filewich were added to the major league roster, while defenseman Ryan Lannon went back to the American Hockey League. Lannon was expected to play in at least part of Wilkes-Barre/Scranton's game at Hershey today.

Minard, Brent and Filewich will be available when the Penguins face Washington tomorrow at 7:38 p.m. at Mellon Arena. Whether any of them actually plays likely depends on the condition of three players already in the NHL.

Colby Armstrong is listed as day-to-day because of a bruised hip he got during the first period of the Penguins' 2-0 victory in Montreal Saturday. So is Adam Hall, who strained a groin against the Canadiens.

Tyler Kennedy sat out the Montreal game because of illness, and his status for tomorrow night has yet to be determined.

Brent is the Baby Penguins' leading scorer, with seven goals and 28 assists in 39 games, while Minard is second with 17 goals and 14 assists. Filewich has seven goals and 10 assists.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08020/850850-100.stm

SteelCityMan786
01-20-2008, 04:38 PM
Will be interesting to see how the Brent Trade with Anaheim has went.

83-Steelers-43
01-20-2008, 05:11 PM
Will be interesting to see how the Brent Trade with Anaheim has went.

Well, as of right now and up to this point....

Dixon has 11 goals, 12 assists in 45 games with the Portland Pirates.

Brent has 7 goals, 29 assists in 39 games with WBS/Scranton Baby Penguins.

83-Steelers-43
01-21-2008, 07:51 AM
Crosby update

Crosby is scheduled to undergo a thorough examination of his injured right ankle tomorrow.

He received a high ankle sprain in the Penguins' 3-0 loss to Tampa Bay Friday, but swelling has made it impractical to try to assess the severity of his injury.

Information gathered in tomorrow's examination likely will be used to formulate a timetable for when Crosby, who was tied for first place in the NHL scoring race when he was injured, will be able to resume playing.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08021/850912-61.stm

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 08:05 AM
so who plays in the net tonight? Sabo or Conklin?

83-Steelers-43
01-21-2008, 08:15 AM
so who plays in the net tonight? Sabo or Conklin?

That's tough.

Personally, I would go back with Conklin. Our defensemen seem to like his passing and stick handling abilities more than they do Sabo's or Fleury's. I've heard Gonchar, Scuderi and Sydor all praise his ability to help them out when it comes to getting them the puck. Nevermind his rebound control and how cool and calm he remains in net.

If Conklin struggles, throw in Sabo. When it comes to Sabo, I still feel the same way I did back in late November/early December, he is better when coming off the bench cold and stepping in for either Fleury or Conklin. One game isn't going to change my opinion.

Eitherway, I can understand why one would want them to keep Sabo in net, but I still wouldn't agree.

MarylandSteeler
01-21-2008, 08:34 AM
I think that the Pens should go with what has been working for them in the long run, not based on one good game by Sabo.

Conklin was playing excellent in those 10 games that we won, and then we lost the game that Crosby went down.

I think that you have to go back to Conklin he has shown us some consistancy and I think that he also needed a one game rest after playing all those games. Everyone needs a break every once and a while.

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 08:37 AM
Sabo has played well all year except for like 2 or 3 games, unfortunately for him those bad games were right after Fleury got hurt

i too think they stick with Conlkin but think they should let Sabo play more often

they will have a dilemna when Fleury is healthy because both Sabo and Conklin have played much better than Fleury this season IMO

MarylandSteeler
01-21-2008, 08:47 AM
Personally I don't think that you should be switching goalies around lke that, you should go with what is working for you, and when a goalie is hot you should stick with him.,

I think that if Conklin is still playing good when Fleury is healthy I think that you should stay with what is working. Again you don't wanna mess with something that is working for you,

Plus I think that the team is more comfortable when they have Conklin in net then Sabo. Becase they know that they can count on him to make the saves and to play the puck well, something I am sad to say that Fleury does not do well.

Now I am not saying that I think that Conklin should take the starting job away from Fleury, I am only saying that you should go with what is making you team win.

83-Steelers-43
01-21-2008, 08:49 AM
The problem is, what do you do when Fleury comes back? If Conklin continues to play as great as he has been playing, it's not going to be easy for the Penguins to send him back down to WBS/Scranton. Problem is, if they keep him up here, they will either have to demote Sabo (who has a year-plus left on his contract and would have to clear waivers) or they would have to keep three goaltenders, a situation that would probably leave everybody involved very unhappy.

Then again, who knows what will happen from this point up until Fleury returns? Conklin could go down with an injury. Sabourin could go down with an injury. Conklin could have a horrible game. Sabourin could have a horrible game. A decision made today, could make absolutely no sense come early-February.

83-Steelers-43
01-21-2008, 09:01 AM
Personally I don't think that you should be switching goalies around lke that, you should go with what is working for you, and when a goalie is hot you should stick with him.,

I think that if Conklin is still playing good when Fleury is healthy I think that you should stay with what is working. Again you don't wanna mess with something that is working for you,

Plus I think that the team is more comfortable when they have Conklin in net then Sabo. Becase they know that they can count on him to make the saves and to play the puck well, something I am sad to say that Fleury does not do well.

Now I am not saying that I think that Conklin should take the starting job away from Fleury, I am only saying that you should go with what is making you team win.

I agree completely.

Fleury is considered our 'goalie of the future'. Conklin is playing hot right now.

One bad game from Conklin (where the whole team was in limbo after watching Crosby go down) is not enough for me to erase how Conklin was playing in the games leading up to the Tampa Bay game and replacing him with Sabo or switching back and forth.

IMO, I think they should go back with the goalie who put them in a situation to compete for first place in the Atlantic division. As I stated before, I also think they should go with the goaltender who the players have been more comfortable with over the last 12-14 games. From the interviews I've seen since Fleury went down, that goaltender is Conklin.

pittsburghp8baller
01-21-2008, 09:11 AM
I agree completely.

Fleury is considered our 'goalie of the future'. Conklin is playing hot right now.

One bad game from Conklin (where the whole team was in limbo after watching Crosby go down) is not enough for me to erase how Conklin was playing in the games leading up to the Tampa Bay game and replacing him with Sabo or switching back and forth.

IMO, I think they should go back with the goalie who put them in a situation to compete for first place in the Atlantic division. As I stated before, I also think they should go with the goaltender who the players have been more comfortable with over the last 12-14 games. From the interviews I've seen since Fleury went down, that goaltender is Conklin.

i agree. has long as conklin remains hot hes gotta be our starter, even over fleury.

i cant wait to see jonathan filewich play. ive heard a lot of good things about him and ive seen one of WBS games where he scored

83-Steelers-43
01-21-2008, 09:20 AM
i agree. has long as conklin remains hot hes gotta be our starter, even over fleury.

i cant wait to see jonathan filewich play. ive heard a lot of good things about him and ive seen one of WBS games where he scored

I'm with you. If Conklin is playing hot when Fleury returns, you stay with Conklin and roll the dice on Sabo making it through waivers. Another knock I hear on Conklin when it comes to this situation is the fact that he's 31 years old and Sabo is 27. Curtis Joseph just signed with the Calgary Flames and he's 40 years old. When it comes to age and goaltenders, I'm not seeing a problem.

As for Filewich, I've been high on this kid and I'm excited to see how he performs at the NHL level. From what I've seen, he's one hell of a forechecker and plays a physical game. It's also comforting to know he shoots right, we have enough players on this roster who shoot left.

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 10:46 AM
http://post-gazette.com/pg/08021/850982-100.stm

Penguins place Crosby, Hall on injured reserve
Monday, January 21, 2008
By Shelly Anderson, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Penguins today placed captain and leading scorer Sidney Crosby on injured reserve.

Team officials expect that the swelling from a high ankle sprain on his right leg will have decreased enough by tomorrow for him to get a full evaluation from doctors.

Crosby was injured Friday night in a game against Tampa Bay.

The Penguins also placed forward Adam Hall on injured reserve because of a groin injury he suffered Saturday in a game against Montreal.

Putting a player on injured reserve allows a team to fill a roster spot.

The player must be on injured reserve for at least seven days, retroactive to the day of his injury.

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 10:48 AM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08021/850913-61.stm

Malkin becomes center of attention
Monday, January 21, 2008
By Dave Molinari, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Evgeni Malkin tried. Oh, how he tried.

At least as much as -- and maybe more than -- he had while giving the Penguins nearly 23 minutes of quality work in their 2-0 victory at the Bell Centre in Montreal Saturday.

Still, he never quite made enough sense of the words to understand the question being put to him. Which was, essentially, whether he felt compelled to assume Sidney Crosby's role as the Penguins' go-to forward while Crosby recovers from a high ankle sprain.

The best response Malkin could muster, at least in the locker room, was a shrug and a crooked smile. That didn't really matter, though, because his performance in the previous 21/2 hours had provided an answer that required no interpretation.

Mostly because he expressed himself in the universal language of excellence.

Malkin scored an empty-net goal with 12.4 seconds left in regulation for his only point of the evening, but could have picked up several others if teammates had been able to capitalize on the opportunities he created.

Like when he breezed around Canadiens defenseman Andrei Markov -- that's the same Andrei Markov voted an Eastern Conference starter in the All-Star Game -- early in the second period and slid a backhand pass to Sergei Gonchar, who was robbed by Canadiens goalie Cristobal Huet.

Or when, a few minutes later, he sprung Petr Sykora on a breakaway Sykora failed to convert.

Fact is, Malkin was highly visible on nearly all of the 29 shifts he took Saturday evening. If he was auditioning to be Crosby's stand-in, well, consider the position filled.

"He's probably always wanted to be the No. 1 center, and he's got his chance now," defenseman Ryan Whitney said. "He obviously has the talent to do it. It's going to be no surprise if he steps up and keeps playing the way he has."

Casting Malkin in such a role hardly is a reach. Going into last night's games, he was the No. 14 scorer in the NHL, with 24 goals and 29 assists. What's more, he spent several winters as the most prominent player on his hometown team, Metallurg Magnitogorsk, in the Russian Super League.

"He wants to be the go-to guy," left winger Jarkko Ruutu said. "It's not the first time in his career."

Exceptional as Malkin's pedigree is -- he was the second player chosen in the 2004 entry draft -- it's not practical to expect him to approach Crosby's level of productivity.

For starters, the Penguins figure to be at least a bit more conservative in their style of play while Crosby is out. Also, Crosby had the benefit of having Malkin on his wing at various times this season; Malkin's linemates Saturday -- Sykora and Ryan Malone -- are pretty fair hockey players, but neither is going to be mistaken for Crosby's offensive stunt double.

Regardless of who is flanking him, Malkin's effectiveness will be inexorably linked to how he uses the players around him.

After Crosby was injured in the first period of a 3-0 loss to Tampa Bay Friday, Malkin seemed intent on trying to manufacture a victory almost by himself. He made several futile attempts to split the Lightning defense while carrying the puck, and almost tried to will his way into other scoring situations, with little success.

"He has to play with his line[mates]," center Maxime Talbot said. "That's definitely a big point."

It's a lesson Malkin seemed to absorb between the game against Tampa Bay and the one in Montreal, where he distributed the puck efficiently without detracting from the offensive threat he presents while keeping it.

"If you try to do too much, you do more harm than good," Gonchar said. "If you try to create things on your own, it's really tough nowadays in the league, when you have such good defensive systems everywhere."

Malkin has been in North America for more than a season and a half now and has adapted to the way the game is played here. That's one of many adjustments he has made to position himself to step into the void created by Crosby's injury.

"You saw all the skill he shows now when he got here," Whitney said. "But with the language and the new surroundings and all that stuff, he probably was a little nervous, a little timid at the time."

English still can be a bit baffling, but Malkin has gone a long way toward mastering the rest. Which is why he doesn't seem shy about stepping into the spotlight Crosby has dominated for so long.

"I think he really wants to be the guy," Talbot said. "And we're going to see if he can be."

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 10:49 AM
BTW: Sabo is starting tonight.

83-Steelers-43
01-21-2008, 12:40 PM
BTW: Sabo is starting tonight.

Did you hear that straight from Therrien's mouth? In a interview or quote in an article?

Or are you basing it off the PPG's 'probable' starting goaltender report?

I read in the PPG early this morning that the probable goaltender tonight for the Pens is Sabo, but the PPG is simply guessing. They are not exactly getting that info straight from Therrien.

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 01:56 PM
Did you hear that straight from Therrien's mouth? In a interview or quote in an article?

Or are you basing it off the PPG's 'probable' starting goaltender report?

I read in the PPG early this morning that the probable goaltender tonight for the Pens is Sabo, but the PPG is simply guessing. They are not exactly getting that info straight from Therrien.

PPG's Probable Goaltenders Report. Do they usually base it off of the last game 83?

83-Steelers-43
01-21-2008, 02:30 PM
PPG's Probable Goaltenders Report. Do they usually base it off of the last game 83?

I'm not exactly sure what they base it on. I'm guessing that the PPG feels since Sabourin played well last game and also because Therrien has a tendency of going with what worked the game before, he will go with Sabourin.

That's why I wouldn't be shocked to see Sabourin in net tonight. I was just wondering if you heard Therrien actually state that he was starting Sabourin in net tonight or if you read it in the PPG probable goaltender report.

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 02:30 PM
cool, i like whats happening with our goalies

Sabo and Conklin have a healthy competition for playing time which results in them pushing each other to play better

I dont care if Fleury plays again this season

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 02:33 PM
I'm not exactly sure what they base it on. I'm guessing that the PPG feels since Sabourin played well last game and also because Therrien has a tendency of going with what worked the game before, he will go with Sabourin.

That's why I wouldn't be shocked to see Sabourin in net tonight. I was just wondering if you heard Therrien actually state that he was starting Sabourin in net tonight or if you read it in the PPG probable goaltender report.

I guess that's one more reason you recommend the Trib more for the Pens?

83-Steelers-43
01-21-2008, 02:37 PM
Personally, I hope Fleury continues to grow while being one of (if not the) youngest starting goaltenders in the league. Are there parts of his game that I feel should be better at this point in his career? Sure. Rebound control being one of those parts. There are times I want to pull my hair out when watching him give up rebound after rebound. At the same time, he's still young for a goaltender and the experience will only help him later on down the road.

That does not mean I feel he should automatically start once he returns if Conklin is still hot, but it doesn't mean I want to see him sit the bench for the rest of the season. I still have faith in Fleury. Winning 40 games last season was enough to convince me that former number one overall pick will be something special down the road, but like with many young players (Letang, Staal, Malkin), there is room for improvement.

I tend to keep in mind what Marty Brodeur had to say about Fleury.....

But Brodeur, arguably the finest goalie of his generation, said yesterday that he believes Fleury will develop into the impact player the Penguins' front office -- and many others in the industry -- believe he can be, even though Fleury has struggled to get his game in sync through the first month of the season.

"He's such a great athlete," Brodeur said. "What I look at is a guy's ability to skate, and he's a really good skater. The foundation is his mobility, how athletic he is, how competitive he is.

"Everything is there. It's just that sometimes a couple of things are going the wrong way and the next thing you know, everything doesn't fit.

"But when he finds a way to put everything together, relax and be patient, he has so much skill, so much speed, that he's going to be all right. I love watching him play, because he's a spectacular goalie."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07310/831473-61.stm

83-Steelers-43
01-21-2008, 02:38 PM
I guess that's one more reason you recommend the Trib more for the Pens?

lol, no. The Trib wouldn't know either, the only one that does know right now is Therrien. But yeah, I like the Trib's Penguin coverage better than the PPG's, much like how I prefer the PPG over the Trib when it comes to Steelers football. Just my preference.

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 02:48 PM
lol, no. The Trib wouldn't know either, the only one that does know right now is Therrien. But yeah, I like the Trib's Penguin coverage better than the PPG's, much like how I prefer the PPG over the Trib when it comes to Steelers football. Just my preference.

and anyone who is in house with the Pens.

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 04:22 PM
Personally, I hope Fleury continues to grow while being one of (if not the) youngest starting goaltenders in the league. Are there parts of his game that I feel should be better at this point in his career? Sure. Rebound control being one of those parts. There are times I want to pull my hair out when watching him give up rebound after rebound. At the same time, he's still young for a goaltender and the experience will only help him later on down the road.

That does not mean I feel he should automatically start once he returns if Conklin is still hot, but it doesn't mean I want to see him sit the bench for the rest of the season. I still have faith in Fleury. Winning 40 games last season was enough to convince me that former number one overall pick will be something special down the road, but like with many young players (Letang, Staal, Malkin), there is room for improvement.

I tend to keep in mind what Marty Brodeur had to say about Fleury.....
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I hear ya man. One thing that color drives me absolutely crazy about Fleury is when he makes some diving save it takes him forever to get off the ice and recover in position. I've never seen another goalie take so long to recover and get back to position in my life. But Fleury def. has a lot of potential

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 06:13 PM
According to the Trib Total Media Inside The Locker Room report, Sabo is starting.

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 06:34 PM
This is going to be exciting watching Malkin and Ovechkin going at it

I remember hearing an interview last year where the reporter asked Malkin if winning the R.O.Y. award was important, Malkin replied (through a translator) 'Yes, I must proove that I am greater than or equal to Ovechkin'

LMAO

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 06:54 PM
haha good ol Malkin.

Nice start. 1-0 and we're dominating puck control. Where was that "phantom icing"

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 07:11 PM
power play isnt looking so good

Sabo looked really bad giving that goal up. He thought the puck was behind the net lol

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 07:14 PM
2-2

AWESOME backhand goal by MALKIN

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 07:15 PM
So when is Brashear going to get beat up? :sofunny:

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 07:20 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Malkin makes O-bitch-kin look like a FOOL

So why did they stop play, becuase Ovechkin is a whiner????

and Ruutu got a penalty before the period ended huh?

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 07:23 PM
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Malkin makes O-bitch-kin look like a FOOL

So why did they stop play, becuase Ovechkin is a whiner????

and Ruutu got a penalty before the period ended huh?

No, a fight broke out.

Ruutu got 2 for unsportsmanlike conduct. my bet is for mouthing off.

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 07:29 PM
No, a fight broke out.

Ruutu got 2 for unsportsmanlike conduct. my bet is for mouthing off.

what fight?

Ruutu got a penalty after the faceoff from when they stopped play. Maybe the Caps were offsides but Ovechkin def. wanted to fight Malkin

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 07:31 PM
what fight?

Ruutu got a penalty after the faceoff from when they stopped play. Maybe the Caps were offsides but Ovechkin def. wanted to fight Malkin

They were throwing Punches so I presume a fight was going to break out.

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 07:39 PM
LMAO

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Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 07:40 PM
btw, Sabo sucks

bring in Conklin

pittsburghp8baller
01-21-2008, 07:43 PM
wat a goal by malkin! this dude is on FIRE!!

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 07:48 PM
wat a goal by malkin! this dude is on FIRE!!

LOL, thats what i was just sayin. Im like get the damn puck to Malkin on this power play and then Sykora gets an absolutely beautiful setup from Whitney

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 07:49 PM
Nice, One Capitals Goal, 2 UNANSWERED IN OUR FAVOR!

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 07:51 PM
btw, Sabo sucks

bring in Conklin

Sabo is coming off a shutout against Montreal. He hasn't even seen much action.

Conklin only comes in if it's REALLY bad.

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 07:52 PM
WTF?

BRING IN CONKLIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

pittsburghp8baller
01-21-2008, 07:54 PM
WTF?

BRING IN CONKLIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i gotta say though. patrick roy probably wouldnt of stopped that. OV gots to have one of the best onetimers in the game. to quick and accurate to stop

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 07:54 PM
I guess 4 is a I have had enough notice from Therien.

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 07:55 PM
i gotta say though. patrick roy probably wouldnt of stopped that. OV gots to have one of the best onetimers in the game. to quick and accurate to stop

true, but the first 3 goals given up were pretty weak

pittsburghp8baller
01-21-2008, 07:56 PM
true, but the first 3 goals given up were pretty weak

agreed

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 08:03 PM
Glass Delay at Mellon Arena.

pittsburghp8baller
01-21-2008, 08:06 PM
since we gotta second does any1 know when they plan on announcing the replacements for the all-star game or have they done it already? i kno they gotta replace sid and i dont think daniel alfredsson is gonna play and i think someone on the west squad got hurt 2?

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 08:15 PM
STAAL CRUSHES brashear

YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 08:15 PM
STAAL CRUSHES brashear

YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man, Washington is getting punished.

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 08:19 PM
Man, Washington is getting punished.

you know that prick Brashear is gonna wanna fight after that. Look for Laraque vs Brashear round 5 up next period :sofunny:

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 08:28 PM
you know that prick Brashear is gonna wanna fight after that. Look for Laraque vs Brashear round 5 up next period :sofunny:

That's pretty much promises a Pens win since Laraque getting into a major fight means the pens will win the game.

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 08:36 PM
Good Shot by Malkin.

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 08:38 PM
We need to score goals and soon right now. Washington's Offense looks like it's getting steam.

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 08:47 PM
Good call, and now we lead 5-4!

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 08:48 PM
another bs penalty call on the Pens

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 08:48 PM
Come on PK!

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 08:52 PM
REF DOWN!

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 08:56 PM
I'm starting to really wonder what Conklin was charged with the penalty for anyway?

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 08:57 PM
I'm starting to really wonder what Conklin was charged with the penalty for anyway?

for shooting the puck at the ref

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 08:59 PM
for shooting the puck at the ref

That explains it.

SteelCityMan786
01-21-2008, 08:59 PM
Need to get an icing on the cake goal here.

Lord Stiller
01-21-2008, 09:01 PM
i dont think the refs like the pens today

and our best penalty killer is in the box