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SteelCityMan786
03-01-2008, 03:49 PM
Thank God this period is over. It sucked from the start pretty much.

83-Steelers-43
03-01-2008, 04:00 PM
Thank God this period is over. It sucked from the start pretty much.

That's the truth, but we are only down by two. That's not terribly bad. We still have a chance.

X-Terminator
03-01-2008, 04:00 PM
This game has had it all...mental errors, dumb penalties, horrible defensive zone play, bad D coverage...you name it, the Pens have done it. They've basically handed this game over to the Sens so far when they easily could have taken control. I don't care how much they've been struggling, you CANNOT play like that, give them chances and expect to win. They simply have too much talent.

SteelCityMan786
03-01-2008, 04:00 PM
That's the truth, but we are only down by two. That's not terribly bad. We still have a chance.

Amen Brother. Time to regroup and kick Ottawa's Ass in the 3rd Period. Remember the last visit to Scotiabank Place?

X-Terminator
03-01-2008, 04:04 PM
Amen Brother. Time to regroup and kick Ottawa's Ass in the 3rd Period. Remember the last visit to Scotiabank Place?

Yeah, and it can happen again, I guess. But obviously the kick in the ass that they got yesterday has not translated into solid play on the ice today. They have simply looked awful at times. Not at all what I expect out of a team that has aspirations of winning a division/conference championship.

83-Steelers-43
03-01-2008, 04:05 PM
Amen Brother. Time to regroup and kick Ottawa's Ass in the 3rd Period. Remember the last visit to Scotiabank Place?

It's very possible. I don't see why not. Only down by two.

We just have to play smarter and more disciplined hockey. Ruutu was capable of showing discipline and letting Lapointe take the two. Gonchar was a complete moron and not only decided to cross check Alfredsson once, but he went back again with a more vicious cross check to the head. You can't do that during a tied hockey game. Act like an idiot, you pay the price. Of course Therrien won't call him out though. That's only for Orpik and Whitney.

Dumb mental errors.

SteelCityMan786
03-01-2008, 04:07 PM
Yeah, and it can happen again, I guess. But obviously the kick in the ass that they got yesterday has not translated into solid play on the ice today. They have simply looked awful at times. Not at all what I expect out of a team that has aspirations of winning a division/conference championship.

100% so. This team has not played like they just did get a swift kick in the rear.

It's very possible.

We just have to play smarter and more disciplined hockey. Ruutu was capable of showing discipline and letting Lapointe take the two. Gonchar was a complete moron and not only decided to cross check Alfredsson once, but he went back again with a more vicious cross check to the head. You can't do that during a tied hockey game. Act like an idiot, you pay the price. Of course Therrien won't call him out though. That's only for Orpik and Whitney.

Dumb mental errors.

:iagree:

If they can get more of these guys to play smarter hockey this period, we will possibly be dancin in the street.

SteelCityMan786
03-01-2008, 04:07 PM
They're NOT playing physical enough.

SteelCityMan786
03-01-2008, 04:12 PM
So many , blown, chances.

SteelCityMan786
03-01-2008, 04:20 PM
And Gil takes another dumb penalty.

83-Steelers-43
03-01-2008, 04:29 PM
MALKIN BABY!!!!!

83-Steelers-43
03-01-2008, 04:29 PM
5:54 remaining. Let's go Pens!!!

83-Steelers-43
03-01-2008, 04:31 PM
Looks like the offense got Therrien's message today. Unfortunately, he can't cure lack of discipline from a veteran.

X-Terminator
03-01-2008, 04:31 PM
That's what great players do. Awesome shot by Malkin.

It's really a shame, because this is a game we should be winning if not for all of the mistakes they've made.

83-Steelers-43
03-01-2008, 04:33 PM
Come on boys!!! We have a little over 5:00 to get this thing tied up. Very possible.

83-Steelers-43
03-01-2008, 04:41 PM
F-ing sad. Just sad.

Offense showed up, unfortunately, so did idiocy.

SteelCityMan786
03-01-2008, 04:42 PM
Pretty much a bad game. However, they did improve of the performance against Boston.

Let's forget this game and get ready to kick Atlanta's ass.

SteelCityMan786
03-01-2008, 04:46 PM
I say start Fleury tomorrow. Conklin hasn't been great as of late.

83-Steelers-43
03-01-2008, 04:50 PM
lol, I love Caufield, he's jumping on Conklin. He sucked as a player and he sucks as an analyst. I completely understand starting Fleury tomorrow, we have back to back games, but Caufield is making it sound like Conklin is slipping and it's his fault for today's loss.

Let's see. He had a bad game yesterday.....along with the rest of the team. No doubt. God forbid he has a bad night after saving our ass time and time again this season.

Today, his team was coughing up pucks left and right and your veteran D-man puts you on a PK for 4 minutes, resulting in 2 goals and takes a stupid slapper at the point with a man in his face resulting in one goal. Yeah, jump on Conklin.

I should have known somebody else would take the blame for this loss. Caufield, the Gonchar love wagon and Gonchar's wife are the one's blaming others. 3 f-ing goals. Open your eye's for Pete's sake and take off the Gonchar homer goggles. Keep up the good work Caufield. You have zero credibility in my book. Hell, even Bob and Steigy jumped on him today and stated it was a major factor.

SteelCityMan786
03-01-2008, 05:12 PM
lol, I love Caufield, he's jumping on Conklin. He sucked as a player and he sucks as an analyst. I completely understand starting Fleury tomorrow, we have back to back games, but Caufield is making it sound like Conklin is slipping and it's his fault for today's loss.

Let's see. He had a bad game yesterday.....along with the rest of the team. No doubt. God forbid he has a bad night after saving our ass time and time again this season.

Today, his team was coughing up pucks left and right and your veteran D-man puts you on a PK for 4 minutes, resulting in 2 goals and takes a stupid slapper at the point with a man in his face resulting in one goal. Yeah, jump on Conklin.

I should have known somebody else would take the blame for this loss. Caufield, the Gonchar love wagon and Gonchar's wife are the one's blaming others. 3 f-ing goals. Open your eye's for Pete's sake and take off the Gonchar homer goggles. Keep up the good work Caufield. You have zero credibility in my book. Hell, even Bob and Steigy jumped on him today and stated it was a major factor.

They seem to be the only of the 3 giving him any credit.

83-Steelers-43
03-01-2008, 05:14 PM
They seem to be the only of the 3 giving him any credit.

It doesn't take a monkey to see that three goals lost us a game today.

X-Terminator
03-01-2008, 05:23 PM
I was really surprised at Gonchar's reaction in the first place - he usually never snaps like that. He got tripped by Alfredsson - something that has been overlooked - got frustrated and lost his cool, which you simply can't do in that situation. But you know what, the guy has still been a solid contributor all season long, logs a ton of minutes and has put up good numbers. I'll acknowledge when he screws up, but I'm not going to sit here and piss on him because he made a bad decision. Besides, the guy just admitted that he made a mistake by going after Alfredsson and giving them the double minor.

As for pinning the blame on Conklin, well you know, the guy has been bailing us out time and time again and saved our asses on Tuesday night when they gave up 52 shots on goal. So it's just laughable that anyone would pin the blame on him for the loss today. I personally think the guy is just tired from playing so much and facing so many shots night after night after night.

Lord Stiller
03-01-2008, 09:35 PM
our defense is pathetic

SteelCityMan786
03-01-2008, 11:03 PM
our defense is pathetic

Let's just hope it's not a repeat against Atlanta.

83-Steelers-43
03-02-2008, 06:59 AM
our defense is pathetic

It's sad really. The offense looked good and the defense blows it for us big time. We had our chance to get a little revenge last night and get up in first place and it went down the drain on a double minor. Gonchar deserved all the heat he received after last night's performance. For me, it would be the same if it were anybody else on that roster.

Three goals....:coffee:

The second thing, that two minutes, I probably deserved one not two because (Alfredsson) cross-checked me in my ribs right before that and they let it go, but it seems like (the referee) was waiting for the moment that he could even that up and I gave him the chance."

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_555126.html

That's why they have retaliatory penalties. It happens all the time around the league. Ruutu showed discipline, Gonchar didn't during a tied game. The team paid the price.

Oh well, bring on Atlanta.

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 09:35 AM
It doesn't take a monkey to see that three goals lost us a game today.

Heck it doesn't take my 2 year old cousin that long to figure it out.

X-Terminator
03-02-2008, 10:07 AM
our defense is pathetic

You do realize that we're playing short-handed on defense, right? You D will tend to have problems when 3 of your best D-men are in the press box watching the game. Gonchar is being asked to play 27-29 minutes a night because he pretty much has to. Who else on the team can carry that much of the load? Orpik? Nope. Letang? Not yet. Goligoski? Are you kidding me? Gill? Right now I'd trade Gill for a box of Dunkin Donuts. The donuts would probably skate faster. Didn't want the guy here in the first place. We have guys playing positions/roles and with partners they aren't used to. Having continuity among your defense pairings is very important if you hope to have a decent defense corps. Look at some of the best defensive teams in the league - they all have good players who play with the same guys every night. So it's completely understandable why our defense has problems right now.

83-Steelers-43
03-02-2008, 10:11 AM
Heck it doesn't take my 2 year old cousin that long to figure it out.

:sofunny::toofunny::sofunny::toofunny:

Hopefully the brain farts stop today. Right now we are struggling with a simple break out and clearing our own zone when we have the opportunity. It's pretty basic, even for a team with injuries and even for monkeys and 2 year old cousins (and in my case, a three year old niece)....lol.

It will be interesting to see how they respond after the last two games. Christensen and Colby coming back to the old building!!!

MarylandSteeler
03-02-2008, 11:24 AM
:sofunny::toofunny::sofunny::toofunny:

Hopefully the brain farts stop today. Right now we are struggling with a simple break out and clearing our own zone when we have the opportunity. It's pretty basic, even for a team with injuries and even for monkeys and 2 year old cousins (and in my case, a three year old niece)....lol.

It will be interesting to see how they respond after the last two games. Christensen and Colby coming back to the old building!!!

LMAO!!!

I agree 83. Sergei's play yesterday was horrible. No excuses from me. Gill is also looking bad even though he's new to the Penguins system. At least he sort of has an excuse. Like you said 83, they can't clear the zone and that is basic. They seem to be struggling with breaking out. I am anxious to see how Fleury does today. Do not forget your terrible towel today 83!!! :tt02:

Lord Stiller
03-02-2008, 11:42 AM
we better win today

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 11:44 AM
Well i have been gone for about 2-3 weeks now(Family), and just wanted to catch up on my opinions.
Hossa was the Largest steal this year :) and him playing along side Crosby will be unstoppable.
Ted Gill was def. a needed pick up any toughest back there is a huge plus for our dying week D anymore.
Dupwie or however you spell it showed what he was made of his first game as a Pen and should def. help the Pens out on the forward position.
Im proud of our scouts and the choices we made for the deadline and the Pens are def. a team on the rise even with these last few STUPID losses.
But for now LETS GO PENS! Thrashers at 3:00PM EST so lets cheer them on loud and proud!

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 01:29 PM
Good to see you back Steelpride.

Time to bounce back against Atlanta.

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 01:30 PM
Starting Goalies: Marc Andre-Fleury and Kari Lehtonen.

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 02:11 PM
GOALLL!! Ryan Malone playing till the whistle scores to make is new Carrer high of 23 on the season!!! Pens lead in early 1st 1-0
Go Pens!

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 02:12 PM
GOALLL!! Pens on fire Max Talbot scores 9th of the season with a nice move to give the Pens a 2-0 lead still early in first!
Go Pens!

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 02:13 PM
2-0. Quick Goals Early.

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 02:16 PM
We must take advantage of the Power Play today. Bury these guys early.

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 02:16 PM
Pens look hungry after yesterdays loss with still 13:00 left in first and already having 6 shots on goal and 2 of them in!

The Duke
03-02-2008, 02:22 PM
finally they are playing like they want to win

that was a nice play talbot, we need more of that!

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 02:25 PM
finally they are playing like they want to win

that was a nice play talbot, we need more of that!

And they're outshooting Atlanta 8-3.

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 02:30 PM
7 Shots by Atlanta.



7 Saves by Fleury.

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 02:34 PM
2-1. Break down there. But hey, Fleury's first dumb mistake.

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 02:41 PM
Good Period. Very Physical all around

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 02:42 PM
Pens lead after 1st period 2-1!
Gaols from Malone and Talbot early, but Thrashers with a jump score to cut of our lead in half and bring preussure.
Fluery is playing well and that goal he gave up was a lucky one, but a goal is a goal!
Go Pens!

Lord Stiller
03-02-2008, 03:05 PM
Malone looking like a bonehead there

first he screws up a 2 on 1

and the charges the goalie and takes a dumb penalty

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 03:19 PM
Need to score goals.

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 03:29 PM
We have to bury these guys on the Power Play.

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 03:31 PM
LaRaque seems to be wanting to add a goal here. Good Job by him.

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 03:34 PM
We're going to need to take advantage of scoring opportunities in the 3rd Period.

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 03:36 PM
Game remains 2-1 Pens after second period with a pretty much back and forth game with the shots all evened up. Neither team truly has any momentum expect the Thrashers have a power play to begin the 3rd.
Kris Letang had a beautiful hit on the wall and the only real noisemaker in the second period.

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 03:36 PM
Malone looking like a bonehead there

first he screws up a 2 on 1

and the charges the goalie and takes a dumb penalty

He was clearly pushed into the goaltender by a thrasher and you can't complain with a man who just scored and has set his all time high goals for a season.

Lord Stiller
03-02-2008, 03:40 PM
Malkin is going to score from the penalty box

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 03:41 PM
So far good job killing the penalty. 1:15 left on a Penalty to Malkin.

Lord Stiller
03-02-2008, 03:58 PM
Hal Gill is a sloth on skates

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 04:00 PM
Thrashers tie the game at 2 a piece.
Tyler Kennedy misses wide open net and penalties not going the Pens way. Thrashers getting many chances. Face-off wins are so key and we have struggled with that today.
Pens need some momentum and this power play is the perfect time to get it.
Go Pens!

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 04:01 PM
Hal Gill is a sloth on skates

Your wordful opinions today are making me upset and false beyond belief. Hal Gill is not made for speed and thats not why we brought him here. He is a PHYSICAL defense men and we needed that since Eaton went down!

Lord Stiller
03-02-2008, 04:02 PM
Letang calls for the puck then fans on it

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 04:04 PM
We need some goals NOW.

Lord Stiller
03-02-2008, 04:04 PM
Your wordful opinions today are making me upset and false beyond belief. Hal Gill is not made for speed and thats not why we brought him here. He is a PHYSICAL defense men and we needed that since Eaton went down!

now i see why everyone was making fun of us for the Gill trade

people just skate right around him and take it to the net

and he also takes a bunch of dumb penalties

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 04:08 PM
How ironic would it be to see the Pens lose in a shootout to Christensen and Recci. That would be so typical and would set me ablaze!

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 04:09 PM
now i see why everyone was making fun of us for the Gill trade

people just skate right around him and take it to the net

and he also takes a bunch of dumb penalties

That one penalty today he took was a terrible call and anyone in their right mind would agree. All he did was move to his right and got called...sorry bad call.

Lord Stiller
03-02-2008, 04:09 PM
How ironic would it be to see the Pens lose in a shootout to Christensen and Recci. That would be so typical and would set me ablaze!

Recchi already had a game winning goal in the shootout against us earlier in the season

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 04:16 PM
Recchi already had a game winning goal in the shootout against us earlier in the season

Your point......?

Lord Stiller
03-02-2008, 04:20 PM
Your point......?

your ironic wet dream already happened

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 04:27 PM
Game tied at 2....OVERTIMEE!!
Go Pens!

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 04:28 PM
your ironic wet dream already happened

aww how childish of you. I was more pointing toward Christensen, but it would still be ironic if it happened twice.

Lord Stiller
03-02-2008, 04:29 PM
oh man, Malkin set up Sydor perfectly

nice save Lehtinen

Lord Stiller
03-02-2008, 04:30 PM
aww how childish of you. I was more pointing toward Christensen, but it would still be ironic if it happened twice.

your point.....???

Lord Stiller
03-02-2008, 04:35 PM
shootout, who do we go with

1 - Letang
2 - Ruutu
3 - Malkin or Sykora

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 04:35 PM
Shootout time!!! Come on Pens get that last point!

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 04:35 PM
your point.....???

My point is you have no clue what your saying you sure your a Pens fan!?

Lord Stiller
03-02-2008, 04:36 PM
My point is you have no clue what your saying you sure your a Pens fan!?

sounds like you're clueless

you just see the Recchi highlight blind boy?

Lord Stiller
03-02-2008, 04:41 PM
Fleury comes up big in the shootout!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One area where he is clearly better than Conklin

We needed those 2 pts, huge win

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 04:41 PM
1-0 IN THE SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTOUT! PENS WIN THE GAME 3-2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Happy Birthday Mike Lange. The Pens Present you with another win!

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 04:45 PM
Pens Win in Shootout!!! Fluery honorably getting player of the game getting 31 saves and not letting any in during shootout.
Pens now move into first place in the division next game Tuesday.
Good Game Pens!

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 04:47 PM
1-0 IN THE SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTOUT! PENS WIN THE GAME 3-2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Happy Birthday Mike Lange. The Pens Present you with another win!

This game was also for Myron Cope our blessing go to him!!!! :tt02:

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 04:47 PM
Fleury comes up big in the shootout!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! One area where he is clearly better than Conklin

We needed those 2 pts, huge win

This is a Pens forum you know, but i didn't hear a positive word from you today thats what a true fan is made of...good calls buddy.

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 04:59 PM
This game was also for Myron Cope our blessing go to him!!!! :tt02:

Amen to that. Got Tampa on Tuesday. Got to ride high. :cheers:

pittsburghp8baller
03-02-2008, 05:28 PM
im hating not being able to see the games this weekend. well at least missing this game dont mind missing saturday. so what does every1 think does this game and conklins performance saturday push fleury back to the number 1? i mean im thankful of what conklin has done for us but ive said it for a while their is a reason he has been a mainly a backup for the majority of his career. i think we will be seeing more and more of fleury

Lord Stiller
03-02-2008, 05:35 PM
so what does every1 think does this game and conklins performance saturday push fleury back to the number 1?

good question and who know what Therrian will do. I expect we will see more of Fleury for sure but i wouldnt count out Conklin yet.

Maybe they should take turns to see how it plays out, then go with the hotter guy into the playoffs

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 05:36 PM
Does this mean they have to remake the car commercial? :hunch:

Dupuis is said to be another humorus guy. I say why not him?

pittsburghp8baller
03-02-2008, 05:40 PM
good question and who know what Therrian will do. I expect we will see more of Fleury for sure but i wouldnt count out Conklin yet.

Maybe they should take turns to see how it plays out, then go with the hotter guy into the playoffs

i never seen therrian as a person who will flip flop goalies ive always seen him as playing the hotter goalie even if its not ur stud (the times he has benched fleury) even though he has only played about a game and a half i think he has outplayed conklin in that time. they will use them both but usually on back to back nights.

83-Steelers-43
03-02-2008, 05:48 PM
The first goal Fleury gave up was an easy one. He should have saved it. His rebound control still seems questionable. Overall, he had a solid performance today, but some of his bad habits still seem to be showing. At least from what I saw today.

At this point, I would still go with Conklin in the next game. That's just me. What Therrien will do is anybody's guess. I wouldn't be surprised to see him go with Conklin nor would I be surprised to see him go with Fleury.

83-Steelers-43
03-02-2008, 05:55 PM
LMAO!!!

I agree 83. Sergei's play yesterday was horrible. No excuses from me. Gill is also looking bad even though he's new to the Penguins system. At least he sort of has an excuse. Like you said 83, they can't clear the zone and that is basic. They seem to be struggling with breaking out. I am anxious to see how Fleury does today. Do not forget your terrible towel today 83!!! :tt02:

:wink02:

Well, they didn't turn the puck over, they didn't take dumb penalties that put us in a four minute PK hole, they broke-out cleanly and they cleared the puck when it was in danger (for the most part) today. Result, 3-2 victory with the two points.

Like I said in my above post, Fleury looked solid, but after that first cheap one he let in I thought we were going to mentally collapse. It was nice to see them keep pushing. It was also nice to see Talbot finally chip one in. He was definately well past due.

And yes, I brought my TT in honor of Cope. Frankly, I thought there would have been more. Sad really.

X-Terminator
03-02-2008, 06:00 PM
I'm just glad we finally won a game. It wasn't dominating and was a LOT harder than it should have been given it's the Thrashers we were playing, but I'll take it.

I thought Fleury did a good job overall and I like how he's standing up more to make saves rather than constantly going down. But he still showed that he's prone to giving up soft goals. There's no way Slater should have scored on that shot. I do find it interesting however that after all that Conklin has done to keep this team afloat, I'm reading posts asking for him to be benched because he's had a couple of sub-par games. I'd like to give him a few more starts to see if he gets himself back on track, and if he doesn't, then you go with Fleury. Like I said earlier, I think the guy just needs a break - he's seen an awful lot of rubber in his past few starts and is probably tired.

My guess is that Therrien comes back with Fleury on Tuesday night, then goes back to Conklin Thursday. It should also be noted that Dany Sabourin was the backup today, not Conklin.

83-Steelers-43
03-02-2008, 06:05 PM
Hal Gill is a sloth on skates

:toofunny:

He actually made a few nice plays today. He saved Letang's ass on one occasion today. He dove and broke up a pass on what looked like to be a for sure goal. There is no doubt though, he is slow as hell. If he is caught up in the oppositions end, he's screwed. If you have the slighest bit of speed, you can take him to the outside.

Today though, I gotta tip my hat to him. I thought he played a fairly solid game.

HometownGal
03-02-2008, 07:46 PM
I'm just glad we finally won a game. It wasn't dominating and was a LOT harder than it should have been given it's the Thrashers we were playing, but I'll take it.

I thought Fleury did a good job overall and I like how he's standing up more to make saves rather than constantly going down. But he still showed that he's prone to giving up soft goals. There's no way Slater should have scored on that shot. I do find it interesting however that after all that Conklin has done to keep this team afloat, I'm reading posts asking for him to be benched because he's had a couple of sub-par games. I'd like to give him a few more starts to see if he gets himself back on track, and if he doesn't, then you go with Fleury. Like I said earlier, I think the guy just needs a break - he's seen an awful lot of rubber in his past few starts and is probably tired.

My guess is that Therrien comes back with Fleury on Tuesday night, then goes back to Conklin Thursday. It should also be noted that Dany Sabourin was the backup today, not Conklin.

When the Pens jumped out ahead 2-0 in the early minutes, I thought it was going to be a rout for the Pens, but hey - they got the win in the shootout and I'm content with that. Remember - they are basically playing with 1/2 of a team at this point and have still remained very competitive minus a few blunders and fubars.

I agree with you about Conks more than likely being tired - he needs a few games off to regain his strength and focus. I thought Fleury played pretty well today and who really knows at this point what Therrien is going to do with regard to Conks and Fleury.

Zac got his Mr. Potato Head bobblehead and loved it! The Pens have some very nice promotions for the kids. :thumbsup:

Congrats Pens on the win, first place in the Atlantic Division and a share of the top spot in the Eastern Conference! :cheers:

ATLANTIC GP W L OT Pts

Pittsburgh Penguins 67 37 23 7 81
New Jersey Devils 66 37 23 6 80
New York Rangers 66 34 24 8 76
Philadelphia Flyers 66 33 25 8 74
New York Islanders 67 31 29 7 69

Eastern Conference

Rank GP W L OT PTS
1 Montr?al Canadiens* 66 36 21 9 81
2 Pittsburgh Penguins* 67 37 23 7 81
3 Carolina Hurricanes* 68 34 29 5 73
4 New Jersey Devils 66 37 23 6 80
5 Ottawa Senators 66 37 23 6 80
6 Boston Bruins 64 35 23 6 76
7 New York Rangers 66 34 24 8 76
8 Philadelphia Flyers 66 33 25 8 74

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 08:04 PM
Those standings are looking good. :cheers:

HometownGal
03-02-2008, 08:19 PM
Those standings are looking good. :cheers:

Yeppers - they sure are! :cheers:

Hopefully, the Habs will lose in SJ and the Sens will fall to Anaheim tomorrow night.

steelpride12
03-02-2008, 08:56 PM
I say ride Conks this year unless he had a total meltdown. With the leagues top save percentage around .950% and Fluery coming off of injury id say Conks is the right choice. Conks is used to all the teams by now and he knows how they play.
Fluery is experienced in the Playoffs, but Conks in a vet. all around.
It will all come down to who all gets paid more money and that is Fluery so i expect to see him get the brunt of the games!

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 09:57 PM
Yeppers - they sure are! :cheers:

Hopefully, the Habs will lose in SJ and the Sens will fall to Anaheim tomorrow night.

I believe those pests will fall and help the Pens playoff shots. :jammin:

pittsburghp8baller
03-02-2008, 10:23 PM
oh since i missed the game can any1 fill me in on how goligoski has been doing? i noticed he has had a couple of assist and was a plus at least tonight.

SteelCityMan786
03-02-2008, 10:32 PM
oh since i missed the game can any1 fill me in on how goligoski has been doing? i noticed he has had a couple of assist and was a plus at least tonight.

1 assist and his first NHL penalty today.

X-Terminator
03-02-2008, 11:37 PM
When the Pens jumped out ahead 2-0 in the early minutes, I thought it was going to be a rout for the Pens, but hey - they got the win in the shootout and I'm content with that. Remember - they are basically playing with 1/2 of a team at this point and have still remained very competitive minus a few blunders and fubars.

I agree with you about Conks more than likely being tired - he needs a few games off to regain his strength and focus. I thought Fleury played pretty well today and who really knows at this point what Therrien is going to do with regard to Conks and Fleury.

Zac got his Mr. Potato Head bobblehead and loved it! The Pens have some very nice promotions for the kids. :thumbsup:

Congrats Pens on the win, first place in the Atlantic Division and a share of the top spot in the Eastern Conference! :cheers:

ATLANTIC GP W L OT Pts

Pittsburgh Penguins 67 37 23 7 81
New Jersey Devils 66 37 23 6 80
New York Rangers 66 34 24 8 76
Philadelphia Flyers 66 33 25 8 74
New York Islanders 67 31 29 7 69

Eastern Conference

Rank GP W L OT PTS
1 Montr?al Canadiens* 66 36 21 9 81
2 Pittsburgh Penguins* 67 37 23 7 81
3 Carolina Hurricanes* 68 34 29 5 73
4 New Jersey Devils 66 37 23 6 80
5 Ottawa Senators 66 37 23 6 80
6 Boston Bruins 64 35 23 6 76
7 New York Rangers 66 34 24 8 76
8 Philadelphia Flyers 66 33 25 8 74

The Pens actually have the top seed right now since they have 1 more win than Montreal, which is simply amazing given all that's happened since Sid went down. Speaking of Sid, they showed a clip of him in practice during the game and he looks like he's ready to go right now. He was doing his customary stops/starts, going to a knee to take shots, etc. So it's possible the Pens will get both him and Hossa back in time for the game Sunday against the Caps, which would definitely be a welcome sight!

Glad Zac liked his Mr. Potato Head doll and I hope he enjoyed the game, too! :cheers:

I say ride Conks this year unless he had a total meltdown. With the leagues top save percentage around .950% and Fluery coming off of injury id say Conks is the right choice. Conks is used to all the teams by now and he knows how they play.
Fluery is experienced in the Playoffs, but Conks in a vet. all around.
It will all come down to who all gets paid more money and that is Fluery so i expect to see him get the brunt of the games!

I think Conklin's earned the right to get the bulk of the starts down the stretch, unless of course he completely falls apart. The thing is though that Conklin has played a total of 0 playoff games in his career, while Fleury has played 5, and that's pretty significant. We don't know if he can handle the playoff pressure since he's never been tested. I think we're going to find out, though, because I see him being the man going into the playoffs.

oh since i missed the game can any1 fill me in on how goligoski has been doing? i noticed he has had a couple of assist and was a plus at least tonight.

He's played pretty well, I think, and obviously has the skill set to play in the NHL, but I still don't think he's ready to make the jump just yet. He also needs to get bigger and stronger, otherwise he's going to be nothing more than a speed bump to the net for most of the guys in the league.

83-Steelers-43
03-03-2008, 05:29 AM
Welcome to the Penguins' goalie controversy
Monday, March 03, 2008
By Bob Smizik, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

A goalie controversy of historic proportions is set to erupt as the final 15 games of the Penguins' regular season play out. At stake is nothing less than a chance to win the Stanley Cup.

Who does coach Michel Therrien go with for the majority of the remaining games? Which of his two goalies does he prime for the playoffs?

Is it Marc-Andre Fleury, who was in goal yesterday in a 3-2 shootout win against the Atlanta Thrashers at Mellon Arena, which was his first NHL start since Dec. 6? Or is it Ty Conklin, who replaced the injured Fleury and went on to play well beyond anyone's expectations?

Under normal circumstances, Conklin's play should have been enough to make him the regular for the remainder of the season and the playoffs. After all, the case easily could be made he is the team's most valuable player. Conklin has been consistently good, often excellent. Just last week, he had a 50-save game in a 4-2 win against the New York Islanders. His goals-against average of 2.37 is almost half-a-goal lower than Fleury's. His save percentage of .927 is the best in the NHL.

But these are not normal circumstances.

For starters, Conklin has no pedigree. He is the quintessential journeyman. Although he'll be 32 at the end of the month, his career consists of 105 NHL games. He never previously gave any indication he could get a team to the playoffs, let alone win a series or two or three or four. His only postseason experience was five minutes for Edmonton in 2006. His goals-against average for that brief stint was 10.

For seconds, Conklin's play has declined ever so slightly in recent games. Considering the high level at which he was playing, that was to be expected. But, at the same time, this decline creates the concern -- or is it fear -- that he's in the early stage of a return to his previous mediocre form.

At Boston Thursday, Conklin had to be pulled early in the second period in favor of Fleury after allowing three goals on 13 shots. Against Ottawa Saturday, he allowed five goals.

It's natural that any sign of deterioration by Conklin will cause alarm. When there is no history to support current accomplishments, suspicion always lingers.

For thirds, there's Fleury. He was the first player selected in the 2003 entry draft and long has been tagged as a potential superstar. The Penguins took Fleury with the hope he'd become the kind of franchise goaltender who could win a Stanley Cup. He has not shown that form, neither in the NHL nor in his minor-league days, but he's only 23, and the hope still exists.

If the Penguins are intent on making a long run in the playoffs -- and by acquiring Marian Hossa last week that clearly is their hope -- they would more likely want to do it with a goalie whose resume is shinier than Conklin's.

Fleury, not unexpectedly, started slowly against the Thrashers, who accommodated by not getting a shot for the first five minutes. The Penguins did not start slowly, taking a 2-0 lead before the game was three minutes old. But Fleury allowed the Thrashers to get back in it by allowing a bad goal by Jim Slater later in the first period.

"I was a little nervous at the start," he said.

He settled down considerably after that, allowing only a score on a rebound early in the third period and finished with 31 saves.

"I was a little rusty," Fleury said, "but I felt better as the game went on."

Therrien seemed pleased. "I thought he was solid. That's a good sign for him and for us as well."

Therrien was even happier with the shootout, where Fleury stopped all three Atlanta attempts, including one by former Penguin Erik Christensen.

"Marc-Andre was outstanding [in the shootout]," he said.

Therrien was asked if Fleury earned a start tomorrow night at Tampa Bay.

"We'll talk about it," he said. "I'm going to sit down with the staff and watch the game and we'll make a decision."

In further comments, Therrien seemed to be leaning toward Fleury.

"We have to make sure we keep everyone sharp," he said. "Ty has given us some good hockey. He's one of the reason's we're in first place. But, in the meantime, I think yesterday [against Ottawa] he could have played better.

"Marc-Andre is playing well. It's always been the philosophy to go with the performance and the hot hand. If a guy is playing well, you got to use him."

Too much should not be made of which goalie starts tomorrow. With 15 games to go, Therrien has the opportunity to give both goalies long looks. But not too long. He wants one primed for the playoffs.

It's a momentous decision. The season could ride on it. So could a championship.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08063/862031-194.stm

83-Steelers-43
03-03-2008, 05:34 AM
oh since i missed the game can any1 fill me in on how goligoski has been doing? i noticed he has had a couple of assist and was a plus at least tonight.

I would love to see it, but I'm still not sure Goligoski is ready to take over a starting role. Offensively he has the tools. His defensive game and putting on weight is something he needs to work on.

Eitherway, I would just like to see him get more playing time than he did the last time he was up here back in early February. With having both Scuderi out and Whitney possibly out, there is a good chance that day may come today.

On a positive note with Goligoski, he's already put up two points (two assists) and is sporting a +2. Not bad really. Personally, I'm just happy to see him get some legitimate experience at the NHL level. It's beats watching him being called up and sitting on the bench the whole damn time.

83-Steelers-43
03-03-2008, 05:36 AM
1 assist and his first NHL penalty today.

Yesterday's assist was his second.

pittsburghp8baller
03-03-2008, 08:46 AM
thanks for the updates on goligoski. im hoping that both sid and hossa make their return against the Caps because im goin to that game!!

83-Steelers-43
03-03-2008, 08:53 AM
thanks for the updates on goligoski. im hoping that both sid and hossa make their return against the Caps because im goin to that game!!

Nationally televised game (Ovechkin vs Crosby). Sid close to returning.....Hossa expecting to return before Sid, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they are both back in uniform for that game.

83-Steelers-43
03-03-2008, 11:22 AM
Malkin named NHL's No. 1 star for February
Monday, March 03, 2008
By Dave Molinari, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Penguins center Evgeni Malkin was named the NHL's No. 1 star for February, when he put up a league-high 26 points (nine goals, 17 assists) in 14 games.

Dallas goalie Marty Turco was selected the No. 2 star, while Buffalo left winger Thomas Vanek was chosen No. 3.

Malkin recorded points in 10 consecutive games between Feb. 2-21, and has a league-high 88 points going into tonight's games.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08063/862148-100.stm

steelpride12
03-03-2008, 02:44 PM
Malkin named NHL's No. 1 star for February
Monday, March 03, 2008
By Dave Molinari, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Penguins center Evgeni Malkin was named the NHL's No. 1 star for February, when he put up a league-high 26 points (nine goals, 17 assists) in 14 games.

Dallas goalie Marty Turco was selected the No. 2 star, while Buffalo left winger Thomas Vanek was chosen No. 3.

Malkin recorded points in 10 consecutive games between Feb. 2-21, and has a league-high 88 points going into tonight's games.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08063/862148-100.stm

Malkin truly stepped in for Crosby and kept the team on their feet, also now leading the league in points and really plays full heart every game, every shift!!! :smile:

HometownGal
03-03-2008, 05:14 PM
I believe those pests will fall and help the Pens playoff shots. :jammin:

I believe the Sens will lose to the Ducks but I'm not sure about the Habs losing in SJ. I'll be cheering Thornton and Cheechoo on tonight. :thumbsup:

Congrats Geno - much deserved! :cheers:

SteelCityMan786
03-03-2008, 06:19 PM
Congrats to Geno.

83-Steelers-43
03-03-2008, 06:37 PM
Bad news for Evgeni Malkin: Ovechkin has 4 goals and 1 assist tonight.

Washington beat Boston 10 (yes, 10) to 2.

X-Terminator
03-03-2008, 08:26 PM
Congrats Geno! Now get back to work and get 6 points tomorrow night to leapfrog AO again! :wink02:

With the way the Bruins have played tonight, it's hard to believe this is the same team that spanked us so hard on Thursday night. But I've felt they were overachieving and aren't as good as their record, and this game shows it a bit.

SteelCityMan786
03-03-2008, 08:54 PM
Congrats Geno! Now get back to work and get 6 points tomorrow night to leapfrog AO again! :wink02:

With the way the Bruins have played tonight, it's hard to believe this is the same team that spanked us so hard on Thursday night. But I've felt they were overachieving and aren't as good as their record, and this game shows it a bit.

I wouldn't be surprised if he does do well enough tomorrow to do just that against Tampa. They're in absolute turmoil.

X-Terminator
03-04-2008, 12:10 AM
thanks for the updates on goligoski. im hoping that both sid and hossa make their return against the Caps because im goin to that game!!

Not a problem, and may your wish be granted! :cheers:

X-Terminator
03-04-2008, 12:13 AM
I believe the Sens will lose to the Ducks but I'm not sure about the Habs losing in SJ. I'll be cheering Thornton and Cheechoo on tonight. :thumbsup:

Congrats Geno - much deserved! :cheers:

Well you're 2 for 2, because they both lost tonight, and the Habs loss gives the Penguins the top seed in the East! I thought the Pens had already had it, but the Habs had a game in hand until tonight, which is why they held the top spot despite having one fewer win than the Pens, something I didn't even consider. Oh well, we're on top now! :jammin:

83-Steelers-43
03-04-2008, 11:21 AM
good question and who know what Therrian will do. I expect we will see more of Fleury for sure but i wouldnt count out Conklin yet.

I agree. The more I thought about it, I wouldn't be exactly distraught if Fleury get's the nob tonight. The kid was out for some time with his injury, I think you have to at least get him some playing time before the playoffs start and with only fifteen games remaining you might as well start working him in to some degree.

Fwiw, both the Trib and the PG have Fleury as the probable tonight.

83-Steelers-43
03-04-2008, 12:15 PM
Do you hear that sound?

That's the sound of the other teams in the eastern conference collectively saying "OH S%IT!!!"...:jammin:

Crosby to return to Penguins lineup tonight in Tampa
Tuesday, March 04, 2008
By Shelly Anderson, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

TAMPA, Fla. -- Penguins captain Sidney Crosby said this morning he expects to return to the lineup and play tonight against the Tampa Bay Lightning.

Crosby has missed 21 games because of a right high ankle sprain.

"It's been a while, so I'm looking forward to it," Crosby said after participating in the Penguins' morning skate at the St. Pete Times Forum.

Crosby was leading the NHL in scoring with 63 points when he was injured Jan. 18 as his foot bent awkwardly as he slid into the boards during a game with tonight's opponent, Tampa Bay.

The Penguins have gone 11-6-4 without Crosby and remain in strong contention for the Atlantic Division and Eastern Conference titles.

Crosby said his ankle began to feel noticeably better last week when he skated in Pittsburgh while the team was on the road. He approached coach Michel Therrien yesterday about possibly playing tonight after skating in Pittsburgh and flying here with the team, then sealed his return when he felt good during today's morning skate.

"I feel pretty strong right now," he said. "That's what I based my decision on -- how much strength I had and whether I was able to do things out there that I normally could do. I think I've made sure of that."

Crosby, 20, won the NHL scoring title and MVP award last season.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08064/862384-100.stm

83-Steelers-43
03-04-2008, 12:59 PM
Whitney is also back....

The return of Crosby, the reigning scoring champion and league MVP, overshadows the comeback of defenseman Ryan Whitney, who missed two previous games with a groin injury.

With Crosby and Whitney back in the lineup, the Penguins have reassigned forward Connor James and defenseman Alex Goligoski to Wilkes-Barre/Scranton of the AHL.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_555488.html

Lord Stiller
03-04-2008, 02:05 PM
Heeeeeeeeeeeeee'ssssssssssssssss Bacccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!

Sid will be skating with Dupuis and talbot. I'm guessing this is an audition to see which of those 2 will remain with Sid once Hossa gets back

Borski
03-04-2008, 02:33 PM
Whooo!!! I get to see Sid the Kid play! hopefully he didnt rush his return and he is 100% healthy

83-Steelers-43
03-04-2008, 02:38 PM
Heeeeeeeeeeeeee'ssssssssssssssss Bacccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!!!!!

Sid will be skating with Dupuis and talbot. I'm guessing this is an audition to see which of those 2 will remain with Sid once Hossa gets back

I'd love to see Dupuis on that line when Hossa returns. Dupuis - Sid - Hossa. If that doesn't work out, I would try Staal instead of Dupuis.

Tonight, instead of Talbot I would rather see Staal - Crosby - Dupuis. I like Talbot on a high-energy third line.

X-Terminator
03-04-2008, 02:41 PM
Best news of the day by far! :thumbsup: It's been a LONG 6 weeks. Maybe his return will give the team that extra oomph tonight and they take care of business against the hapless Lightning.

83-Steelers-43
03-04-2008, 02:47 PM
hopefully he didnt rush his return and he is 100% healthy

Same here. It hasn't even been seven weeks, but if Sid says he's ready and the TS gave him the green light, I guess he's ready to go. I'm just hoping this isn't a "We are starting to struggle, let's get him back now instead of waiting an extra week or two" type of situation.

Enjoy yourself tonight and bring us home a win. :thumbsup:

HometownGal
03-04-2008, 04:06 PM
Best news of the day by far! :thumbsup: It's been a LONG 6 weeks. Maybe his return will give the team that extra oomph tonight and they take care of business against the hapless Lightning.

:banana: This news really made my day!

I, too, would like to see Staal on the line with Sid and Hossa, but I'm anxious to see how Dupuis looks on that top line, as I've been very impressed with his play thus far.

SteelCityMan786
03-04-2008, 04:31 PM
Guess Who's Back?

Back Again?

Sidney's Back. Tell a friend

Guess Who's Back? Guess Who's Back?........

Hey 83 do you hear the sound of all the other 29 teams in the NHL Saying SDWRWTW54542$@@$#%#@%#@#@%#@%%#@%#@@%#@%#@#@$@%$@% $@%@%@%@#%#@#%@#%@#@%

Anyone else?

The Duke
03-04-2008, 05:23 PM
hell yeah, Crosby's back!!!!

time to kick some lightnings butt!

Lord Stiller
03-04-2008, 06:49 PM
Crosby looks good so far, he is skating well per usual. But I guess he's still a little rusty since he missed an easy deflection goal

Gonch tings one off the crossbar

Lets go PENS!

Lord Stiller
03-04-2008, 06:52 PM
SON OF A B!TCH

the ice in FLORIDA is total crap

Staal wiped out on the crappy surface and got cruched as he was falling, looks like he got hurt

SteelCityMan786
03-04-2008, 07:03 PM
Crosby looks like his old self driving teams up a wall.

Lord Stiller
03-04-2008, 07:08 PM
Fleury looking solid

Staal went to the dressing room early :banging:

Lord Stiller
03-04-2008, 07:32 PM
damn, Staal didnt come out of the locker room for the 2nd period :(

SteelCityMan786
03-04-2008, 07:39 PM
POWER PLAY!!!!

SteelCityMan786
03-04-2008, 07:48 PM
Penalty Shot coming.

Lord Stiller
03-04-2008, 08:23 PM
this game is frustrating! it's 0-0 but could easily be 5-5

WE NEED A GOAL!!!!!!!!!!

SteelCityMan786
03-04-2008, 08:41 PM
Where's our offense? We need a goal.

Lord Stiller
03-04-2008, 08:49 PM
Talbot with a goal

assisted by Crosby

kinda a lucky play but i'll take it!

SteelCityMan786
03-04-2008, 08:50 PM
HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SHOOTS AND SCORES! MAXIME TALBOT SCORES AND THE PENS LEAD 1-0. ELVIS HAS (almost at least) JUST LEFT THE BUILDING!

SteelCityMan786
03-04-2008, 08:50 PM
Talbot with a goal

assisted by Crosby

kinda a lucky play but i'll take it!

It's all part of my power for asking goals.

The Duke
03-04-2008, 08:53 PM
Fleury with 33 saves so far!

great job

lets finish this one!

SteelCityMan786
03-04-2008, 08:54 PM
PENGUINS WIN 2-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

83-Steelers-43
03-04-2008, 09:03 PM
Nice win. Both teams blew chance after chance tonight, but the two points are all that matters. I would also like to tip my hat to the defense, they shut down Marty and Vincent. That's no easy task.

Great win. I'm just happy Ouellet didn't score tonight. I just didn't feel like hearing, "Do you see what he's doing in Tampa?"

Yeah, he didn't do it here. Get over it. Much like Recchi in Atlanta.

X-Terminator
03-04-2008, 09:42 PM
Got to see the last 2 periods, but I'd say Sid looked damn good in his return! His hands are a little rusty and his timing was a little off, but everything else was there. I'm so glad to see him back on the ice, and can't wait until he plays with Hossa!

Glad we got the win in a place that has been a house of horrors for the past several years, and stay atop the Eastern Conference. I also think after tonight, Max Talbot should be the LW on the 1A line with Crosby and Hossa. I thought he looked quite comfortable playing with him. To me, he'd be perfect anyway because he's a mucker who will do the dirty work in the corners and along the boards to get the puck to Crosby and Hossa, while also having the hands to put away a few goals of his own, as evidenced on Sunday and again tonight on the game winner.

I thought Fleury looked pretty solid in goal again getting the shutout in his second start. Knowing Therrien, he will come back with him on Thursday, though I still think Conklin should get the nod. The guy got them to this point and deserves to get a chance to get his game back on track.

Still have concerns about the Pens giving up so many shots. That's something that has to be corrected. But overall, it was a nice win and a solid overall effort.

83-Steelers-43
03-04-2008, 09:45 PM
PENGUINS WIN 2-0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At the end of the day, just get the two points until our roster is back. That's all I give a flying **** about.

Good win. Bring on the Panthers. :jammin::sofunny:

SteelCityMan786
03-04-2008, 09:45 PM
Got to see the last 2 periods, but I'd say Sid looked damn good in his return! His hands are a little rusty and his timing was a little off, but everything else was there. I'm so glad to see him back on the ice, and can't wait until he plays with Hossa!

Glad we got the win in a place that has been a house of horrors for the past several years, and stay atop the Eastern Conference. I also think after tonight, Max Talbot should be the LW on the 1A line with Crosby and Hossa. I thought he looked quite comfortable playing with him. To me, he'd be perfect anyway because he's a mucker who will do the dirty work in the corners and along the boards to get the puck to Crosby and Hossa, while also having the hands to put away a few goals of his own, as evidenced on Sunday and again tonight on the game winner.

I thought Fleury looked pretty solid in goal again getting the shutout in his second start. Knowing Therrien, he will come back with him on Thursday, though I still think Conklin should get the nod. The guy got them to this point and deserves to get a chance to get his game back on track.

Still have concerns about the Pens giving up so many shots. That's something that has to be corrected. But overall, it was a nice win and a solid overall effort.

Maybe if we're lucky, they'll play as one force at the latest against Buffalo next wed.

Borski
03-04-2008, 10:11 PM
That was an awesome first game!!! Can't wait to see more

83-Steelers-43
03-05-2008, 04:37 AM
Penguins Q&A with Dave Molinari
Wednesday, March 05, 2008
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Q: What are the possibilities of the Penguins being able to re-sign Marian Hossa and give Evgeni Malkin his new contract? A lot of people are saying it's a foregone conclusion that Hossa is just a rental. Will the new arena help the Penguins to get both signed?

Tim Miller, Philadelphia

MOLINARI: A few relevant facts that should be understood right up front:

1) Hossa is scheduled to be an unrestricted free agent July 1, at which time he will be able to sign with any team that makes him an offer, even if the Penguins are willing to give him more money. If Hossa doesn't want to stay, for whatever reason, there's no way they can make him do so.

2) Even if Malkin signs a new contract July 1, the first day the Penguins are allowed to open negotiations on one, it won't take effect until the 2009-10 season (just as the one Sidney Crosby agreed to last July doesn't kick in until next season). That means Malkin's next salary won't have an immediate impact on the Penguins' payroll or salary-cap considerations. The same is true if they work out a new deal with Jordan Staal this summer.

While a lot of variables (like the salary-cap ceiling, in a given season) will determine precisely which of their players the Penguins will be able to retain, the big-picture view at this point is that they will do everything possible to keep players they deem to be part of their core group, while the supporting cast will undergo frequent changes as the front office brings in lower-priced role players to replace those who have priced themselves out of town.

General manager Ray Shero has been doing projections and evaluations of the Penguins' financial and salary-cap situations since shortly after he took the job nearly two years ago, and most meaningful personnel moves he's made have been with at least one eye on preserving resources and salary-cap space for the time when the Penguins really need it, which seems to be just about here.

He also can't be surprised that he had to bring in a goal-scorer like Hossa in a trade, since the Penguins didn't have anyone to fill that niche in their organization. Consequently, Shero had to realize that whoever he acquired would command a huge salary, even if he didn't -- and probably still doesn't -- know exactly just how large it will be.

Assuming Hossa is interested in staying, the Penguins will have to decide after watching him for a few months if he's the fit they were seeking and, if so, how much they'll be willing to spend to keep him. If they like what they've seen -- and if Hossa is happy with the niche he fills here -- there's reason to believe they'll be able to work out an agreement to keep him for an extended period.

Hossa won't come cheap, even if he's so content here that he accepts a bit less money than he might receive elsewhere, but the Penguins should have the cap space to accommodate him. (As well as Malkin, Staal and Marc-Andre Fleury, for that matter.)

One thing that won't be an issue in any of the negotiations is having the actual resources to pay those guys, and for that the Penguins can thank the city's new multi-purpose arena. They won't actually start to benefit from the enhanced revenue streams that building will provide for a couple more years, but with a deep-pockets co-owner like Ron Burkle and the lines of credit they have in place, they can spend more money than they take in for the next two seasons without it causing a major problem because they know there will be more coming their way in a few years.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08065/862392-125.stm

83-Steelers-43
03-05-2008, 06:54 AM
That was an awesome first game!!! Can't wait to see more

When Malkin scored the empy netter last night, I saw a Penguin fan waving a terrible towel in the first row behind Smith's net. Was that you Borski? lol.

Anyways, if you watch Sports Center's "Top 10 Plays", it's listed at #6 (because of Talbot's legal hand pass to Malkin) and you can see the person after Malkin scores.

:tt02:

83-Steelers-43
03-05-2008, 07:21 AM
Some info on Roberts and the Penguins have yet to give an update on Staal. Bruised ribs, that's about it.

TAMPA, Fla. - Left wing Gary Roberts joined the Penguins during the morning skate Tuesday prior to the team's game against the Lightning.

Roberts has not played since Dec. 29, when he was injured in a game against Buffalo at Mellon Arena. His broken left fibula has healed, but Roberts hasn't recovered fully from a high left ankle sprain - the result of an ill-fated skating session last month.

"He's skating, but I don't think he's that close," coach Michel Therrien said. "Definitely we are looking to have him back before the playoffs."

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_555538.html

Borski
03-05-2008, 11:46 AM
When Malkin scored the empy netter last night, I saw a Penguin fan waving a terrible towel in the first row behind Smith's net. Was that you Borski? lol.

Anyways, if you watch Sports Center's "Top 10 Plays", it's listed at #6 (because of Talbot's legal hand pass to Malkin) and you can see the person after Malkin scores.

:tt02:


Nah, I was higher up in the arena. There was a lot of Penguins fans there, something like 40-45% of the fans.

83-Steelers-43
03-05-2008, 06:28 PM
Hossa injury update:

More good news could come Sunday at Washington. That's when Therrien expects Marian Hossa -- who skated some toward the end of the morning skate -- to return from a knee sprain. Hossa, acquired last week in a trade with Atlanta, will skate on Crosby's line. He was injured Thursday in his first game with the Penguins.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08065/862533-61.stm

Staal injury update:

The Penguins avoided losing yet another player to injury this week.

Jordan Staal, who suffered bruised ribs in Tuesday night’s game in Tampa Bay, practiced Wednesday and is expected to play Thursday night against the Florida Panthers.

Staal suffered the injury during a collision late in the first period and he did not return to the ice for the rest of the contest.

http://penguins.nhl.com/team/app/?service=...rticleid=355961

83-Steelers-43
03-05-2008, 06:45 PM
The more I think about the lines, I would rather see Staal center that third line. Having Malkin, Crosby and Staal centering three of your lines. That's beautiful.

Malone - Malkin - Sykora

Dupuis - Crosby - Hossa

Talbot - Staal - Kennedy

Ruutu - Taffe - Laraque

Eitherway, I think we will continue to see Talbot on Sid's line and Dupuis down on the third. We will also have the option of throwing Roberts on that third line when he returns. Therrien is "expecting" him to return shortly before the playoffs begin.

Lord Stiller
03-06-2008, 06:48 AM
Malone - Malkin - Sykora

Dupuis - Crosby - Hossa

Talbot - Staal - Kennedy

Ruutu - Taffe - Laraque


Malone - Malkin - Sykora

Talbot - Crosby - Hossa

Dupuis - Staal - Kennedy

Ruutu - Taffe - Laraque

Dupuis has no business on either of the top 2 lines. If Adam Hall or Roberts ever comes back, they will probably bench Laraque. He brings nothing to the table

83-Steelers-43
03-06-2008, 09:19 AM
I would still like to see Therrien give Dupuis a shot on Sid's line. The guy scored a goal in his first game here, he has some speed (something you need with Sid) and he's not scared to work for the puck. The guy has only been here for a few games (one with Sid) and I think some underestimate what he could possibly bring to the table. I would like to see Therrien give him a chance. If it doesn't work, throw Talbot back up there. Like I said though, I still think Therrien will keep Talbot on Sid's line, so I guess it's pretty pointless in even throwing it out there.

As for Laraque, I'm not exactly sure what is up with him. Earlier in the season he was playing behind the net with the puck, shielding and dishing out some nice passes to the slot, but he's not even bringing that to the table. Let alone physical play. By the way, when I say physical play, I don't mean the guy has to go out there and fight twice a night, but throw a check every once in a while for Pete's sake. There's a reason why Therrien pointed him out last week during practice.

Lord Stiller
03-06-2008, 10:30 AM
i also see Therrian trying to go with 7 dmen once Scuderi is back. He has already been double shifting Malkin or Staal with the 4th line

Lord Stiller
03-06-2008, 03:04 PM
Fleury is starting tonight again.........

SteelCityMan786
03-06-2008, 04:10 PM
Fleury is starting tonight again.........

Proof that he(Therrien) is sticking to his philosophy.

SteelCityMan786
03-06-2008, 07:14 PM
They look like they have their head stuck up their ass. Down 3-1.

83-Steelers-43
03-06-2008, 07:22 PM
Fleury proving once again that he has ZERO control with his rebounds. Two out of the three goals.

Normally I agree with riding the hot goalie, but when it comes to our situation, I think you stick with Conklin as your main goaltender and slowly work Fleury in. Keep in mind, when Fleury went down, it's not like Conklin came in and won us five or ten games, this guy came in and took over and is the main reason why we are in first place in the conference.

I've said it more than once with Fleury in the past and I'll say it three more times...............rebound control, rebound control, rebound control.

83-Steelers-43
03-06-2008, 07:26 PM
Also, it's nice to know Laraque still has a pulse.

Preacher
03-06-2008, 07:28 PM
Malone - Malkin - Sykora

Talbot - Crosby - Hossa

Dupuis - Staal - Kennedy

Ruutu - Taffe - Laraque

Dupuis has no business on either of the top 2 lines. If Adam Hall or Roberts ever comes back, they will probably bench Laraque. He brings nothing to the table

When will North American Hockey ever learn...

The Russians taught us two things.

1. Pass the puck

2. 5 man lines, not three. and play fluid position hockey, not static.

83-Steelers-43
03-06-2008, 07:32 PM
Fleury proving once again that he has ZERO control with his rebounds. Two out of the three goals.

Normally I agree with riding the hot goalie, but when it comes to our situation, I think you stick with Conklin as your main goaltender and slowly work Fleury in. Keep in mind, when Fleury went down, it's not like Conklin came in and won us five or ten games, this guy came in and took over and is the main reason why we are in first place in the conference.

I've said it more than once with Fleury in the past and I'll say it three more times...............rebound control, rebound control, rebound control.

And on that note, Conklin is starting the second period. :coffee:

Lord Stiller
03-06-2008, 07:37 PM
I cannot watch this anymore

Our defense is pathetic

SteelCityMan786
03-06-2008, 07:37 PM
BRING IN CONKLIN

SteelCityMan786
03-06-2008, 07:38 PM
Where is our offense? We need a goal NOW!

X-Terminator
03-06-2008, 07:39 PM
Losing 4-1 to the Panthers. The PANTHERS!!!

Unbelievable.

83-Steelers-43
03-06-2008, 07:43 PM
You bring in a cold Conklin and you watch your defense on goal #4 standing around in front of the net. Good luck.

Sid is now with Malkin. Here come the line changes.

One plus, this team still has a period and half of hockey to play. There is still time.

83-Steelers-43
03-06-2008, 07:47 PM
One plus, this team still has a period and half of hockey to play. There is still time.

And on that note, it's now 4-2.

83-Steelers-43
03-06-2008, 08:04 PM
Dupuis sets up Talbot beautifully and he can't put it away. Wow. Conklin standing tall and made one helluva save already in this second period.

And yeah, we deserved a penalty/penalty shot on that Booth breakaway. We definately got away with one there.

Anyways, I'll take being down by two with a whole period to play (against any team), particulary against this Florida team, who is known for blowing two goal leads. If we were down by three, I'm not comfortable. At least we cut the lead in half.

X-Terminator
03-06-2008, 08:15 PM
I saw where they gave up 19 shots in the first period - that is really becoming a big, big problem. You're asking a lot of your goalies when you constantly give up so many shots, and of course does not speak well of our defense. That has to be corrected, plain and simple.

83-Steelers-43
03-06-2008, 08:24 PM
Let's go boys! Score early!

At least we don't have to worry about rebounds being directed in front of the f-ing slot. That's always a plus for your defense. Makes their job a little easier.

83-Steelers-43
03-06-2008, 08:44 PM
Win or lose tonight, it's funny watching Conlkin in net. No rebounds....no cheap goals....he's making the big saves to keep us in the game....the defense looks comfortable.

This is what happens when you give up rebounds galore. Two of those rebounds cost us two goals tonight......we are down by two.

SteelCityMan786
03-06-2008, 08:54 PM
This Offense needs goals and Conklin could leave net if they could ever KEEP IT IN THE PANTHERS ZONE!

SteelCityMan786
03-06-2008, 08:55 PM
This game is absolutely EMBARRASING

X-Terminator
03-06-2008, 08:59 PM
Well, here's hoping that Phoenix beats Montreal, otherwise our reign at the top will be over.

I didn't see the first period, and thank God I didn't. If Fleury won't ever learn how to control his rebounds, he will never be an elite goaltender.

83-Steelers-43
03-06-2008, 08:59 PM
And this game is over. Anderson stands tall and Fleury looks like Fleury.

There is a difference between "working him in" and starting him night after night. We paid the price.

The difference between Fleury and Conklin....

1) Conklin doesn't go down as easy.

2) Conklin can play the puck. Helps the defense in that aspect.

3) Conklin doesn't give up rebounds. Helps the defense in that aspect.

4) Conklin makes the key saves.

I know, I'm being hard on Fleury, much like I was with Gonchar (wow, surprise! look at that!) and Laraque (wow, surprise! look at that!) , but the guy has to control his rebounds while stepping up to make the big save from time to time. IMO, he shouldnt' have started to begin with. Conklin is your starter, you work Fleury in from time to time and get him ready just in case he's needed for the playoffs.

Lord Stiller
03-06-2008, 10:01 PM
before Fleury returned and Conklin was the man, i remember saying to myself a few times a game, "that would have been a goal if Fleury was in"

On one of the first goals tonight on the cross ice play, i was thinking Conklin woulda stopped that

Conklin is our man this year IMO

83-Steelers-43
03-07-2008, 03:30 AM
before Fleury returned and Conklin was the man, i remember saying to myself a few times a game, "that would have been a goal if Fleury was in"

On one of the first goals tonight on the cross ice play, i was thinking Conklin woulda stopped that

Conklin is our man this year IMO

And it's not like you can use the "Well, he's been out for a long time, he's still rusty" excuse for Fleury. He has shown a tendency in the past when it comes to giving up huge (and horribly placed) rebounds while also showing a lack of consistency in the process.

Like I said, I have no problem with Therrien throwing him in for a few games before the playoffs start, but to automatically start him over a guy who has the highest save percentage in the league is crazy in my opinion.

Last night, Ron Cook got what he wished for. :coffee:

83-Steelers-43
03-09-2008, 09:18 AM
Hossa is not playing today...

CORAL SPRINGS, Fla.-- Penguins winger Marian Hossa will not return to the lineup for today's game at Washington as the team had hoped.

Hossa, acquired from Atlanta at the Feb. 26 trade deadline, left his first game with his new team Feb. 28 with a sprained right knee.

"He's not ready. He's getting closer," coach Michel Therrien said after practice yesterday at Incredible Ice before the team flew north.

Hossa continued to skate with fellow injured forwards Gary Roberts and Kris Beech before practice, then, for the first time since the injury, stayed out for the first 20 minutes with the rest of his teammates.

Therrien described Hossa as day-to-day.

Hossa is expected to play with center Sidney Crosby when he gets into the lineup. His next chance to do that will be Wednesday at home against Buffalo.

"An injury like that, the player's got to feel comfortable," Therrien said.

and worse yet, Fleury is getting the start today....

Although Therrien still plans to manage his goaltenders by rewarding good performances with additional starts, he's not going to be so rigid that he's always going to switch any time one of them loses or gets pulled.

So, even though Marc-Andre Fleury lasted just one period Thursday before yielding to Ty Conklin, Fleury will be back in net today.

"It's the same thing we did with Conklin. He didn't play well briefly against Boston [Feb. 28], and we brought him back" the next game, Therrien said. "You've got to show confidence. If they're shaking [worried about being replaced], they don't play good. They've got to play with a certain degree of confidence.

"Yes, we're going to judge results, but we have to show them confidence."

Wow, he's singing a different tune when it comes to his goaltenders. That doesn't sound like the same Therrien. We need to worry about grabbing two points at this point in the season, not Fleury's confidence as a backup goaltender.

Bad move today. Even if we get the win, I still won't agree with starting an inconsistent Fleury every game at this point in the year. Then, when Conklin finally does come back and if he looks a little flat, some will wonder "What happened to Conklin?".

Best save percentage in the league, that's all I gotta say.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08069/863679-61.stm

83-Steelers-43
03-09-2008, 12:52 PM
1-1 after one. We keep giving that team PP chance after PP chance and this game will be over by the end of the second, mid-third.

Fleury continues to show me he can't control a rebound. I know, he's looking good today, but that doesnt' mean you can give up those rebounds and not expect them to bite you in the ass sooner or later (like they did last game).

Nice, Penguins PP coming up in the second. The officiating has been suspect at times today.

83-Steelers-43
03-09-2008, 01:09 PM
The Caps second goal is why you should have Conklin in there instead of Fleury. Yeah, it was a 5 on 3, but he left the short-side wide open. Hug the post.

2-2 in the second.

83-Steelers-43
03-09-2008, 02:04 PM
The Penguins can thank Backstrom for today's victory. PITT also wins.

Good day for Pittsburgh sports.

OneForTheToe
03-09-2008, 02:18 PM
Fleury is having trouble with rebounds but otherwise he played pretty well. Exciting game all and all today.

83-Steelers-43
03-09-2008, 02:20 PM
Fleury is having trouble with rebounds

And thankfully it didn't bite us in the ass like it has done in past games (like last game).

X-Terminator
03-09-2008, 02:40 PM
Thanks Niklas! With everything that has gone against us over the past couple of weeks, we'll certainly take the break...and the 2 points.

Overall, I liked the effort I saw today from pretty much everyone. The only real negative is that once again, they gave up way too many shots - 38 today, including 22 in the second period alone. Something HAS to be done about that. If Fleury doesn't play as well as he did (the shaky rebound control and soft goal notwithstanding), it would have been a repeat of Thursday night.

All in all, it was a fun game to watch - had a playoff feel from beginning to end.

83-Steelers-43
03-09-2008, 02:55 PM
The two points are great.

When Conklin comes back in and when the bandwagon wonders why............"He looks a little flat"

Do the f-ing math.

LOL, I love this city when it comes to hockey.

HometownGal
03-09-2008, 03:21 PM
Thanks Niklas! With everything that has gone against us over the past couple of weeks, we'll certainly take the break...and the 2 points.

Overall, I liked the effort I saw today from pretty much everyone. The only real negative is that once again, they gave up way too many shots - 38 today, including 22 in the second period alone. Something HAS to be done about that. If Fleury doesn't play as well as he did (the shaky rebound control and soft goal notwithstanding), it would have been a repeat of Thursday night.

All in all, it was a fun game to watch - had a playoff feel from beginning to end.

Did you hear Sid's comments to his celebrating comrades on the ice after Backstrom knocked that puck into his own net? :toofunny:

It was a really fun game to watch and definitely had that playoff atmosphere. I'd like to see a little more hitting and a LOT more shooting by the Pens. It's not like they don't have the ammunition.

Fleury did play pretty well all in all, but I have to agree with 83 above. Conklin is the man for the net down the stretch. Therrien can't be worried about Fleury's or anyone else's psyche right now. The division and the conference are extremely tight and we have to go with the players who give us the best shot at winning and that includes Ty Conklin.

SteelCityMan786
03-09-2008, 04:15 PM
The two points are great.

When Conklin comes back in and when the bandwagon wonders why............"He looks a little flat"

Do the f-ing math.

LOL, I love this city when it comes to hockey.

It ain't no Hockey Hotbed for nothin'!!!!!

tony hipchest
03-09-2008, 06:41 PM
what a suprise it was to wake up in new mexico, flip through the channels before the race and see penguins hockey ON NBC!!!!! :jawdrop:

hell, i didnt even need dish or cable to see it!

so between the snow game in buffalo, and today its been a very nice hockey season for me. (im really starting to look forward to the playoffs).

X-Terminator
03-10-2008, 01:45 AM
what a suprise it was to wake up in new mexico, flip through the channels before the race and see penguins hockey ON NBC!!!!! :jawdrop:

hell, i didnt even need dish or cable to see it!

so between the snow game in buffalo, and today its been a very nice hockey season for me. (im really starting to look forward to the playoffs).

They're back on NBC next week against the hated Flyers, if you want to check it out. Should be a hell of a game with the Flyers fighting for a playoff spot and the bad blood that exists between the two teams. Hopefully they'll get another win for ya! :thumbsup:

X-Terminator
03-10-2008, 02:06 AM
Did you hear Sid's comments to his celebrating comrades on the ice after Backstrom knocked that puck into his own net? :toofunny:

It was a really fun game to watch and definitely had that playoff atmosphere. I'd like to see a little more hitting and a LOT more shooting by the Pens. It's not like they don't have the ammunition.

Fleury did play pretty well all in all, but I have to agree with 83 above. Conklin is the man for the net down the stretch. Therrien can't be worried about Fleury's or anyone else's psyche right now. The division and the conference are extremely tight and we have to go with the players who give us the best shot at winning and that includes Ty Conklin.

Yeah I did - LOL! That was priceless! Somehow I don't think they're going to replay that part of the game tape in the Caps' locker room :toofunny:

I'd definitely like to see more hitting and more shots - they haven't getting nearly enough of either lately. This is the time of the year when the games get more intense between teams still in the playoff hunt, and it's up to them to match that intensity. I felt they did that for the most part aside for stretches in the 2nd period when the Caps carried the play. As for shooting the puck, the game-winner just proves what can happen if you simply get the puck to the net. Sometimes you get a lucky break and end up scoring a goal. They count just the same as a pretty tick-tack-toe goal - you don't get extra points for style.

I wholeheartedly agree that Ty Conklin needs to be the guy down the stretch. On top of everything he brings to the table in goal, he is the one who got them to this point. It just would not be right to bench him for Fleury - it sends a totally wrong message. IMO, he has more than earned the chance to be the #1 goalie going into the playoffs. We have 10 of our last 12 games against division opponents - I'd rather have Conklin starting the majority of those games. Thankfully though Conklin is a good guy and is handling all this like a pro, at least in public. You have to think that, deep down, he is not happy sitting on the bench after all he's done to keep the team near the top of the conference.

83-Steelers-43
03-10-2008, 05:18 AM
Capital 'fans' are something else. Ovechkin skates around the ice and dishes out some questionable hits (apparently charging and blows to the head are permitted when it comes to Ovechkin), yet when somebody hits him, the fans down there bitch and complain.

I'm really starting to dislike Ovechkin.

http://www.nhldigest.com/wp-admin/images/Ovechkin%20Lookalike.jpg

HometownGal
03-10-2008, 03:17 PM
I wholeheartedly agree that Ty Conklin needs to be the guy down the stretch. On top of everything he brings to the table in goal, he is the one who got them to this point. It just would not be right to bench him for Fleury - it sends a totally wrong message. IMO, he has more than earned the chance to be the #1 goalie going into the playoffs. We have 10 of our last 12 games against division opponents - I'd rather have Conklin starting the majority of those games. Thankfully though Conklin is a good guy and is handling all this like a pro, at least in public. You have to think that, deep down, he is not happy sitting on the bench after all he's done to keep the team near the top of the conference.

From our lips (and font) to Therrein's ears. We can only hope.

Look out for the Rangers. They're on fire - 8-0-2 in their last 10.

tony hipchest
03-10-2008, 03:48 PM
are they calling penalties alot tighter than ever? there were some penalties (like the good check where his elbow slightly grazed the face) that i have never seen called before.

or where the penguin slightly pushed the guy in the back right in front of the net after a missed shot.

i cant remember the 2 pens called but it was around 2-1 in the 2nd. seemed very ticky tack from what i was used to.

HometownGal
03-10-2008, 04:04 PM
are they calling penalties alot tighter than ever? there were some penalties (like the good check where his elbow slightly grazed the face) that i have never seen called before.

or where the penguin slightly pushed the guy in the back right in front of the net after a missed shot.

i cant remember the 2 pens called but it was around 2-1 in the 2nd. seemed very ticky tack from what i was used to.

I think you are referring to the cross-check that was called on Gill and the roughing on Oprik late in the 2nd period - both very, very questionable calls imho. I dunno - the officiating seems to get worse with each passing season. Didn't think I'd ever see the day when I preferred Donut Don to most of the other refs. :horror:

83-Steelers-43
03-10-2008, 04:29 PM
are they calling penalties alot tighter than ever? there were some penalties (like the good check where his elbow slightly grazed the face) that i have never seen called before.

or where the penguin slightly pushed the guy in the back right in front of the net after a missed shot.

i cant remember the 2 pens called but it was around 2-1 in the 2nd. seemed very ticky tack from what i was used to.

It seems like this occurs every year around this time.

In the beginning of the season they were calling everything equally. Equally being the key word. I can deal with a ticky tack call from time to time, but I can't deal with it only being called one way. That's what I've been seeing a good bit of lately in the NHL. If your going to call a soft game, call a soft game for both teams.

Personally, I'm very happy with the strict calls. I would rather see a few ticky tack calls than watching players likeCrosby, Malkin and Jagr getting gang raped when they have the puck (and at times when they don't).

Hopefully they get their shit together in time for the playoffs and call games equally.

SteelCityMan786
03-10-2008, 05:11 PM
Breaking News, I'm going to name my dumbass of the week.

This week's winner is: Nicholas Backstrom of the Washington Capitals

He was the idiot who scored on his own goal in a 4-2 loss against the Penguins yesterday. We congratulate him on his stupidity

83-Steelers-43
03-10-2008, 05:15 PM
IMO, another one who's on the same level as Rob Blake. Philly can have him, my guess is that he will be out with an injury before the playoffs even begin...

Q: What do you think the chances are that the Penguins would try to sign Peter Forsberg? He could either be a rent-a-player for the rest of the season or he could sign a multi-year contract, and the Pens don't have to trade draft picks or important players.

Justin Sobieralski, Pittsburgh

MOLINARI: It seems a virtual certainty that Forsberg will be back in the NHL in the near future, but it also seems fairly clear that he doesn't have any interest in playing for the Penguins, regardless of whether they would be inclined to sign him. Philadelphia is widely regarded as the frontrunner to get him, although there are reports of numerous clubs -- from Detroit to Vancouver, Ottawa to Colorado -- making a pitch for him.

Forsberg apparently would like to sign a contract for 2008-09 as well as the balance of this season, and it remains to be seen what impact, if any, that will have on the offers he receives because of the effect a seven-figure salary for him could have on clubs that project themselves to be near the still-to-be-determined salary-cap limit for next season.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08037/855118-125.stm

And on that note.....

Avs' Forsberg listed as day-to-day with groin injury
Associated Press
Updated: March 9, 2008, 10:37 PM ET

DALLAS -- Colorado Avalanche center Peter Forsberg missed Sunday night's 3-0 loss against the Dallas Stars with a groin injury. He was listed by the club as day-to-day.

Forsberg sustained the injury in Saturday's 3-1 victory over Dallas. He re-signed with the Avalanche on Feb. 25 and has two assists in three games, both coming Saturday.

Defenseman Adam Foote was also scratched by the Avs due to a sore hip.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3285434

83-Steelers-43
03-10-2008, 05:35 PM
Stan Savern just stated that Hossa could possibly return for Weds. game against Buffalo. Personally, I was a little surprised when Therrien stated he could have been back for this past Sunday's game. While it was not a complete tear, the guy has only been out for a little over a week.

Hopefully he returns against Buffalo, but only if he's completely healed. It's not going to do this team any good if he returns at 70%-85% or returns and re-injures himself immediately after returning.

SteelCityMan786
03-10-2008, 06:01 PM
I guess it's good we didn't pick up ol Pete. lol.

83-Steelers-43
03-10-2008, 06:03 PM
I guess it's good we didn't pick up ol Pete. lol.

Why buy a used up and broken down toyota when you can buy a ferrari or lamborghini? :wink02:

SteelCityMan786
03-10-2008, 06:15 PM
Why buy a used up and broken down toyota when you can buy a ferrari or lamborghini? :wink02:

I could go for a nice Dodge Durango or some other form of good working car.

83-Steelers-43
03-10-2008, 09:03 PM
Rangers win 3-2 tonight. Hot on our arse.

X-Terminator
03-11-2008, 12:52 AM
From our lips (and font) to Therrein's ears. We can only hope.

Look out for the Rangers. They're on fire - 8-0-2 in their last 10.

Even though they won again tonight, I think they're due for a bit of a fall. I can't see them keeping this up over their remaining dozen games, but you never know. They do have Lundquist in goal, and when he's on, he's among the best goalies in the league and gives them a chance to win every night (the latter sounds familiar, doesn't it?). All this means is that the Pens obviously are going to have to keep winning - no more sub-par efforts.

are they calling penalties alot tighter than ever? there were some penalties (like the good check where his elbow slightly grazed the face) that i have never seen called before.

or where the penguin slightly pushed the guy in the back right in front of the net after a missed shot.

i cant remember the 2 pens called but it was around 2-1 in the 2nd. seemed very ticky tack from what i was used to.

I personally think they sometimes call the games too tightly, to the point where all of the penalties and power plays disrupt the flow of the game. I've seen hard, clean hits be penalized, I've seen hooks and holds get called where all they do is put their stick/hand on the player for a split second. If it doesn't affect the play, I don't think they should call it, unless of course it's an egregious foul. And, of course, there's no consistency among the referees - some call everything, some don't. But overall, I feel they should let the players play more than they do. That doesn't mean I want a return to the "clutch and grab" era that began with the New Jersey Devils' first cup win in 1995, just for the referees to be a little less whistle-happy. The first period of Sunday's game is exactly the kind of game I want to see more often - hard hits everywhere, up-and-down action, good scoring chances at both ends. To me, that's hockey.

X-Terminator
03-11-2008, 01:17 AM
Highlighted in this story is a quote by Brooks Orpik that further illustrates how I feel about the officiating and how the games should be called. It IS hard to believe though that they hadn't allowed a 5-3 goal all season despite having the 5th-worst PK unit in the league. It goes to show you how good Conklin in particular has been in those situations, since he's faced the majority of them.


Penguins plot to improve penalty killing

By Keith Barnes
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Tuesday, March 11, 2008

Considering the Penguins penalty killing has been marginal at best this season, it stunned several players to learn that, when Washington's Alexander Semin scored with 13.2 seconds remaining in the second period of their 4-2 win over the Capitals, it was the first time this season they had allowed a 5-on-3 goal.

"It surprises me with as bad as our PK's been," Penguins defenseman Brooks Orpik said. "We haven't taken that many penalties which is the key to that, maybe, and we haven't had that many 5-on-3 chances against us. But that's still pretty shocking, really."

In their first 69 games this season, the Penguins had been shorthanded by two men only 10 times, and from Dec. 21 to Feb. 24 had a streak of 29 games without allowing a 5-on-3 power play. That was before there were two 5-on-3 disadvantages against the Capitals; Orpik was the second player in the box both times.

"There were a couple of times I thought (Washington's Alexander) Ovechkin had a step on guys, and I thought we took penalties on scoring chances, but they didn't call it," Orpik said. "They were calling penalties away from the play and, I don't want to get in any trouble here, but you don't want to see the referees dictate the outcome of the game ... but it was back and forth, and you don't want to see a team lose on a power play."

All the Semin goal did was tie the score. In the end, the game was decided when Capitals rookie sniper Nicklas Backstrom whipped a puck past goaltender Cristobal Huet with 27.9 seconds remaining in regulation. The problem for the Capitals was that Huet is Washington's goaltender, the goal was credited to Sidney Crosby, and the Penguins closed to within one point of the New Jersey Devils in the Atlantic Division standings.

Backstrom beating his own goaltender for the winning goal is strange, to be sure. But the fact that the Penguins went almost the entire season without surrendering a 5-on-3 goal, especially considering they had scored on seven two-man advantages themselves, was a real headshaker.

"That's the first one? My bad," said Penguins goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury, who allowed Semin's goal. "I didn't know that was the first one we'd given up all year."

It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say penalty killing hasn't been the Penguins' strong suit. They've spent most of the season in the lower half of the NHL rankings in penalty killing.

The only time they've excelled was in day games. They rank 15th overall and have killed 84.2 percent of the penalties against them, a drastic improvement over their season kill ratio of 80.3 percent that had them ranked 25th in the league heading into last night's games.

"I think the big reason we've been killing 5-on-3s is the goaltending," Penguins right wing Ryan Malone said. "I think all three goalies have really stepped up at critical times, and though killing penalties is about limiting quality shots, good goaltending can help with that."

Still, not allowing many 5-on-3 goals aside, the Penguins know that they must improve their overall penalty-killing numbers as they navigate the stretch and into the playoffs. And that effort starts where it inevitably ends -- in the net.

"It's an important part of the game, and when you get to the playoffs because a lot of goals are scored on the power play," Fleury said. "But we'll just practice really hard, watch a lot of video and just keep working. I'm sure that we'll be good."

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/penguins/s_556575.html?source=rss&feed=8

83-Steelers-43
03-11-2008, 07:32 AM
Thankfully we cut ties with Roy....

Ex-Penguin Roy gets time off

Former Penguins winger Andre Roy, who went to Tampa Bay on re-entry waivers last season, has gotten some unscheduled time off. The Lightning sent him home for a week, with pay, after a meltdown in Philadelphia Thursday.

Roy's emotions apparently were stoked after a fight with Flyers winger Riley Cote -- a fight in which Roy did not fare well -- was replayed on the Wachovia Center scoreboard. He had to be restrained by a linesman and coach John Tortorella.

As the game moved along, Roy reportedly made throat-slitting gestures at Cote and yelled at him that he was "[expletive] dead."

Lightning general manager Jay Feaster issued a statement announcing the suspension, which apparently was influenced by "other situations that have taken place this season involving Andre," and said Roy has been told to not discuss the incident with reporters.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08071/864160-61.stm

83-Steelers-43
03-11-2008, 07:34 AM
It seems like this occurs every year around this time.

In the beginning of the season they were calling everything equally. Equally being the key word. I can deal with a ticky tack call from time to time, but I can't deal with it only being called one way. That's what I've been seeing a good bit of lately in the NHL. If your going to call a soft game, call a soft game for both teams.

Personally, I'm very happy with the strict calls. I would rather see a few ticky tack calls than watching players likeCrosby, Malkin and Jagr getting gang raped when they have the puck (and at times when they don't).

Hopefully they get their shit together in time for the playoffs and call games equally.

"There were a couple of times I thought (Washington's Alexander) Ovechkin had a step on guys, and I thought we took penalties on scoring chances, but they didn't call it," Orpik said. "They were calling penalties away from the play and, I don't want to get in any trouble here, but you don't want to see the referees dictate the outcome of the game ... but it was back and forth, and you don't want to see a team lose on a power play."

My point exactly. Call it equally. :cheers:

83-Steelers-43
03-11-2008, 07:36 AM
Penguins' power play still a puzzle
All the pieces for a successful Penguins power play seem to be there, but making those pieces fit properly has proven to be a challenge
Tuesday, March 11, 2008
By Dave Molinari, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Penguins didn't score a power-play goal in their 4-2 victory in Washington Sunday. • No real surprise there, since they're 1 for 24 with the extra man in the past six games. • They did, however, quite possibly hit upon the perfect personnel combination for their No. 1 unit. The challenge now is determining which one it was. • Sidney Crosby, Ryan Malone and Evgeni Malkin up front, with Ryan Whitney and Sergei Gonchar on the points? How about Malkin and Malone, with Petr Sykora in Crosby's spot? Malone, Crosby and Sykora, maybe? Or perhaps the long-shot grouping of Crosby, Tyler Kennedy and Jeff Taffe as the forwards, with Kris Letang and Darryl Sydor on the points? • The Penguins deployed all of those combinations, and probably a few others, against the Capitals. And they likely will cobble together a few others in coming days as they try to decide the best configurations before the playoffs begin. • "From here on out, we'll try different things, and see how it clicks," said assistant coach Mike Yeo, who oversees the power play. • The experiment could get another ingredient tomorrow, if right winger Marian Hossa is able to play when Buffalo visits Mellon Arena at 7:38 p.m. He has missed five games with a sprained knee.

That Hossa will be grafted onto one of the power-unit units is a given; precisely where he will go, and how long he will stay there, is unsure.

Regardless of where he fits, Hossa should make it possible for the Penguins to assemble two effective power-play units. If so, the overall efficiency of the power play should rise, simply because of the additional strain that will be placed on opposing penalty-killers.

"Guys will be more fresh for each power play," Malone said. "We should be able to snap [the puck] around, make sure we win all those battles if we have fresh guys out there. It's just going to make us deeper and more dangerous."

The Penguins have the fourth-ranked power play in the NHL with a conversion rate of 20.4 percent. Not a bad number and one more complex and interesting than it appears to be at first blush.

It was, for example, more productive when Crosby -- the NHL's defending scoring champion and one of its most-gifted stars -- missed 21 games because of a high ankle sprain than it has been when he has played.

The Penguins were 25 for 93, a success rate of 26.9 percent, in Crosby's absence, but are 40 for 226 (17.7 percent) when he is in the lineup.

The Penguins' current power-play slump does not coincide with Crosby's return last week. It is 0 for 13 in three games since he came back, but was 1 for 11 in the final three he missed.

That the power play was most productive when Malone, Malkin and Sykora were the forwards on the No. 1 unit underscores the value of having a unit whose members possess complementary skills.

For example, Malkin and Crosby are both primarily playmakers, and the Penguins often overpass when they are used together.

"Sometimes, we try to make the pretty play too much," Malone said. "Sometimes, we try to get too fancy."

That usually isn't a problem when Sykora is involved. Give him the puck and a decent look at the net, and chances are he'll launch a shot.

"I'm probably going to think pass first a lot of the time, but [Sykora] is a sniper," Crosby said. "He's going to try to play to his strengths, and let the puck go [on goal] a little more than I do."

Perhaps the Penguins ultimately will decide their two units should feature one forward from each of three categories: Front-of-the-net widebody (Malone, Jordan Staal), playmaker (Crosby, Malkin) and trigger man (Sykora, Hossa).

If so -- or even if they go in a different direction -- they'll want to make sure the combinations have an opportunity to mesh before the playoffs start.

"It's going to take some time for guys to feel comfortable with each other, get a feel for each other on the ice," Penguins coach Michel Therrien said.

But even good chemistry can't guarantee a steady supply of goals.

"Power plays are streaky," Crosby said. "You just have to keep doing the right things. As long as the work ethic is there, you're going to be rewarded.

"Maybe you're not going to have 30 percent, but it's going to make the difference in games."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08071/864153-61.stm

83-Steelers-43
03-11-2008, 07:47 AM
"Sometimes, we try to make the pretty play too much," Malone said. "Sometimes, we try to get too fancy."

I've been saying it all year long, SHOOT THE PUCK. You don't have to make ten passes (while killing your own PP time) in order to score a goal. You have three options on defense to put on the point who can score you goals (Letang, Whitney, Gonchar).

At times, your better off bringing it back to the point, throwing Malone in front and firing away. The key is, getting the puck on the net. I can't count how many times I've seen our point men wind up at the point and completely miss the net. Gonchar in particular and Letang doesn't shoot the puck enough.

Another point I've been saying all along and it may just help our PP. Can we try keeping Sidney Crosby out there for the full two minutes? Please? Once again, it's not like Sid is 35 or 41 years old. He's not going to have a heart attack if you keep him out there for a full two minutes. Why take the general of your team off the PP because a minute fifteen rolled off the clock? It makes absolutely zero sense to me. Ovechkin plays the full PP, why not Sid?

83-Steelers-43
03-11-2008, 07:56 AM
Thankfully we cut ties with Roy

Btw, here's the fight between Roy and Cote. Roy got lit up....

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Lord Stiller
03-11-2008, 07:57 AM
Once Hossa gets back, they need to go with 2 power play units keeping their lines in-tact (except move Staal up for a big body in front of the net)

pp1:

Malone - Malkin - Sykora
Whitney - Gonchar

pp1a:
Staal - Crosby - Hossa
Letang - Gonchar

83-Steelers-43
03-11-2008, 08:08 AM
I have no problem with them going with two PP units. You have to, but I would rather see Therrien switch up the wingers and defenseman instead of taking Sid off for two minutes.

I have a very hard time swallowing the fact that our (the league's) most dangerous setup man is sitting on the bench while the opposition is down a man. For some reason though, Therrien feels he's going to drop over if he stays on the ice for longer than a minute or a minute fifteen.

Malone - Sid - Hossa

Malkin - Sid - Sykora

Whitney/Gonchar

Letang/Gonchar

At times, I would even debate on putting Staal on the second PP unit with Malkin at the point.

Lord Stiller
03-11-2008, 12:22 PM
just heard Talbot is out for tomorrow's game with an ankle injury

Sykora also might not play with a back injury

Hossa will also probably miss tomorrow's game


Jersey plays Motreal tonight, should be a good one

83-Steelers-43
03-11-2008, 02:11 PM
Injury forces Talbot to miss Buffalo game
By Keith Barnes
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Tuesday, March 11, 2008

Injuries have plagued the Penguins all season and it's not abating as the playoffs approach.

Forward Maxime Talbot, who has missed almost two months this season because of a high ankle sprain, has re-aggravated the injury and is out for Wednesday's game against Buffalo.

In addition, right wing Petr Sykora, who is among the NHL leaders with 13 power play goals, is questionable against the Sabres with a sore back. Neither participated in the team's practice Tuesday morning at Mellon Arena.

Because of the injuries, the Penguins recalled forwards Connor James and Ryan Stone from Wilkes-Barre/Scranton of the American Hockey League on an emergency basis.

Only two players, centers Jordan Staal and Evgeni Malkin' have played in all 70 games for the Penguins this season.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/s_556668.html

83-Steelers-43
03-11-2008, 04:07 PM
Also, tonight at 6:30 on FSN Pittsburgh, Stan Savern will be hosting a Pittsburgh Penguins roundtable.

X-Terminator
03-11-2008, 05:09 PM
Three key players out tomorrow night (if Hossa and Sykora don't play) for another key game. Friggin wonderful. :dang:

I swear to God, other than the Oilers, we have had the worst luck in the world with injuries this season. If the Pens don't do anything in the playoffs this season, that might be why.

X-Terminator
03-11-2008, 06:00 PM
BTW, here's the actual bench incident involving Andre Roy that got him sent home. The guy is a friggin lunatic - this wasn't the first time he's snapped like that. He was suspended 13 games at the end of the 01-02 season while still with Ottawa for trying to climb the glass between the penalty boxes, actually leaving the penalty box to get at the Rangers' Sandy McCarthy, who had beaten him in a fight, and abuse of an official. He also once tried to climb into the opposing teams' bench to fight a player. This was still damn funny to see though - he looked like a 5 year old throwing a temper tantrum:

EDIT: Apparently what caused Roy to go ballistic was because he felt Cote got the jump on him (it's a hockey fight, Andre - you drop the gloves, you're ready), and because the Flyers replayed the fight over and over again on the Jumbotron, which is a violation of league rules. Neither excuses Roy's behavior - he has to keep his emotions in check. Just take down the number, and when you get a chance to fight Cote again, you take care of it. You don't embarrass yourself, the team and the coach by going off like that for everyone to see.

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83-Steelers-43
03-11-2008, 06:03 PM
just heard Talbot is out for tomorrow's game with an ankle injury

Sykora also might not play with a back injury

Hossa will also probably miss tomorrow's game


Jersey plays Motreal tonight, should be a good one

Ugh, why not with the way this season has been going with injuries? But like Therrien said, what can you do? Move on and kick in. I'm taking at least one positive out of this situation, I'm hoping we are getting them out of the way with now instead of in the middle of a playoff round.

Talbot is a perfect example of why I was hoping Sid would have taken the full eight weeks off. As for Hossa, just get healthy. Not sense in rushing back. From what I've heard, Talbot is planning on returning on Thursday.

83-Steelers-43
03-11-2008, 06:10 PM
LOL, I love Torts. The guy doesn't put up with any B.S. He put Vinny in his place a few years back, haven't heard a mouse fart from him since.

It's good to see he used that Italian/Lombardi temper to settle his ass down.

Scratch Backstrom SCM, Roy takes the cake when it comes to jagoff of the week. The guy is an idiot.

SteelCityMan786
03-11-2008, 07:15 PM
LOL, I love Torts. The guy doesn't put up with any B.S. He put Vinny in his place a few years back, haven't heard a mouse fart from him since.

It's good to see he used that Italian/Lombardi temper to settle his ass down.

Scratch Backstrom SCM, Roy takes the cake when it comes to jagoff of the week. The guy is an idiot.

He's earning honors for next week right now. Yet Backstrom may get it stolen from his hands. :sofunny:

HometownGal
03-12-2008, 07:34 AM
Three key players out tomorrow night (if Hossa and Sykora don't play) for another key game. Friggin wonderful. :dang:

I swear to God, other than the Oilers, we have had the worst luck in the world with injuries this season. If the Pens don't do anything in the playoffs this season, that might be why.

Tonight is a MUST win. The Devils lost last night to the Habs which puts the Habs in the top spot in the Conference. The Sens beat the Bruins but we're ahead of them in the standings for now. We need these two points tonight come hell or high water.

Wonder who is going to start in goal tonight? I'm hoping it will be Conks but my gut tells me we'll be seeing Fleury again.

Don't forget your cowbell tonight! :thumbsup:

Lord Stiller
03-12-2008, 07:51 AM
Wonder who is going to start in goal tonight? I'm hoping it will be Conks but my gut tells me we'll be seeing Fleury again.


Conklin is starting tonight

he is 3-0 against Buffalo this season

83-Steelers-43
03-12-2008, 09:07 AM
Hossa finds his stride with Crosby
Wednesday, March 12, 2008
By Dave Molinari, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

It wasn't just the first time Marian Hossa practiced on a line with Sidney Crosby. It was the first time the two shared a slab of ice as teammates since Hossa was traded Feb. 26 to the Penguins from Atlanta.

It's understandable, then, that they still have much to learn about each other, about how their respective talents and tendencies might mesh.

Still, an hour of drills at Mellon Arena yesterday led Hossa to at least one conclusion: Having Crosby as his center might work out very nicely.

"That was fun," Hossa said. "Basically, what you have to do is get open. He can get you the puck through two guys."

When he has been here a bit longer, Hossa likely will realize that Crosby also can get the puck through three guys. Or four. Or, if necessary, five.

However, Hossa won't see that happen during a game until Sunday, at the earliest. He has been ruled out of the Penguins' home game tonight against Buffalo because of the sprained knee that forced him to miss the past five games -- a span in which Crosby returned to action after missing 21 games with an ankle injury.

"You have to be smart about it," said Hossa, who is breaking in a knee brace. "You don't want to go too early, not be 100 percent and reinjure it."

Coach Michel Therrien endorsed that approach.

"We don't want him to rush anything," he said. "Injuries like that, you want to push yourself to come back and show what you're capable of doing, regarding your new team. I'd rather wait another game than go backward."

Hossa isn't the only Penguins forward who will spend the evening in street clothes. In addition to Gary Roberts, Kris Beech and Adam Hall, who are recovering from long-term injuries, the Penguins will be without Petr Sykora (back spasms) and Max Talbot (ankle).

"It's better for [Talbot] not to play [tonight]," Therrien said. "Same thing with Sykora."

Talbot, who missed 18 games earlier this season because of a high ankle sprain, aggravated that injury during a run-in Sunday with Washington winger Alex Ovechkin but said he hopes to skate tomorrow or Friday and play Sunday against Philadelphia.

"It's not a big setback," Talbot said. "But it's the time of year when you have to be careful and patient. I don't want to make it worse."

Because of the injuries to Talbot and Sykora, the Penguins summoned forwards Ryan Stone and Connor James from their minor-league team in Wilkes-Barre on emergency recall.

James practiced primarily on a line with Jeff Taffe and Jordan Staal, but it is unclear where he and Stone will be used tonight. Regardless of the jobs they get, those two will be counted on to contribute, the way call-ups and low-profile players have done all season when asked to fill an upgraded role.

"You just expect guys to step up and fill that void, wherever it is," Crosby said. "That's fair of us, as teammates, to expect that of each other."

While it probably is scant consolation to the Penguins, Buffalo won't be at full strength, either.

The Sabres lost defensemen Jaroslav Spacek (chest) and Dmitri Kalinin (shoulder) in a 3-2 shootout loss Monday to the New York Rangers, although defenseman Henrik Tallinder is expected to return after missing three games with a shoulder problem.

Therrien declined to say who will step into Hossa's spot with Crosby and Pascal Dupuis, and acknowledged that trying to assemble personnel combinations is difficult when so many regulars are unable to play.

"That's not the scenario I'd like to have, facing all those injuries," Therrien said.

Hossa and Sykora will have prominent places on the Penguins' power play the final weeks of the regular season and the playoffs, too. Trouble is, Therrien can't decide where they'll fit in until they're healthy and playing. Until that happens, Therrien won't even commit to how many power-play units he'll have, let alone who will be involved.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08072/864353-61.stm

83-Steelers-43
03-12-2008, 09:11 AM
Conklin is starting tonight

he is 3-0 against Buffalo this season

Yep...

Conklin 'owns' Buffalo

Penguins coach Michel Therrien has an oft-stated policy of linking performance to playing time, but he does make exceptions. He did it Sunday, when he started goalie Marc-Andre Fleury in Washington even though Fleury was pulled from a 5-2 loss Thursday at Florida after allowing three goals in the first period. And he'll do it again this evening, when Ty Conklin will be in goal against the Sabres, despite Fleury's outstanding 36-save effort in a 4-2 victory against the Capitals. Conklin, who finished last season as a member of the Sabres, is 3-0 against them, with a shutout and goals-against average of 0.65 in 2007-08.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08072/864350-61.stm

83-Steelers-43
03-12-2008, 10:24 AM
HERE is why you wait the full eight weeks....

Crosby to sit out tonight's game
Wednesday, March 12, 2008
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Penguins center Sidney Crosby will not play tonight against Buffalo.

Crosby, the Penguins captain, is experiencing pain in his right ankle. He suffered a high ankle sprain in January and missed 21 games. He returned March 4 and played in three games.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08072/864429-100.stm

HometownGal
03-12-2008, 10:40 AM
Conklin is starting tonight

he is 3-0 against Buffalo this season

Thanks for the heads-up Lord Stiller. :thumbsup:

WOW - that sucks about Sid. Our young blood is going to have to really step it up tonight. We need these 2 points!

83-Steelers-43
03-12-2008, 01:59 PM
At least there is some good news on Sykora....

Meanwhile, Penguins winger Petr Sykora, who had been doubtful because of a sore back, participated in the morning skate and said afterward he expects to play tonight.

and a little more info on Sid's injury....

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08072/864429-100.stm

fansince'76
03-12-2008, 02:29 PM
WOW - that sucks about Sid. Our young blood is going to have to really step it up tonight. We need these 2 points!

Yep, especially with the Rangers right on their heels.

The Duke
03-12-2008, 03:38 PM
Crosby to sit out tonight's game


that sucks, but its better if he's healthier down the road.........in the playoffs :tt02:

Conklin is starting tonight

he is 3-0 against Buffalo this season

great,lets just hope the streak continues

fleury is good, but right now I prefer conklin

HometownGal
03-12-2008, 03:57 PM
fleury is good, but right now I prefer conklin

Agreed, Duke. I strongly feel that Conks gives us the best chance at winning down the stretch and quite possibly, in the playoffs if he continues to play as well as he has. :thumbsup:

83-Steelers-43
03-12-2008, 04:06 PM
that sucks, but its better if he's healthier down the road.........in the playoffs :tt02:

I agree completely. Apparently the Penguins training staff did not learn anything from Talbot's situation. Instead, they rushed Sid back two weeks early. They are now paying the price and could have paid a higher price if he seriously re-injured it the other night.

They better watch how they play their cards when it comes to this situation.

fleury is good, but right now I prefer conklin

If Conklin wins tonight, don't be surprised to see Fleury right back in there against Philly on Sunday. Since Conklin does play well against Buffalo he's getting the start tonight. I have a feeling if we were playing anybody else tonight, Fleury would be in net.

IMO, after seeing the way Therrien is going about our goaltending situation, Conklin could make 50 saves tonight in a 1-0 shutout victory and Fleury would still get the nod on Sunday.

So much for riding the hot goalie and playing your backup from time to time to keep him fresh for the playoffs. Amazing how quick some forget.

SteelCityMan786
03-12-2008, 07:54 PM
2-0. Laraque got tossed.

SteelCityMan786
03-12-2008, 07:58 PM
Everything has been great. Would be good to get an insurance goal here.

BettisFan
03-12-2008, 08:04 PM
Looks like we can still keep on keeping on with out Sid

SteelCityMan786
03-12-2008, 08:08 PM
3-0. Goal by Gonchar.

BettisFan
03-12-2008, 08:09 PM
Woo hoo

The Duke
03-12-2008, 08:11 PM
3-0!

so far so good, everyones on the same page tonight

BettisFan
03-12-2008, 08:19 PM
This is great i am surprised since sid isnt playing

BettisFan
03-12-2008, 08:54 PM
its 6-2 us in the 3rd with 9 minutes left!

SteelCityMan786
03-12-2008, 08:56 PM
6-3. Offensive 3rd.

SteelCityMan786
03-12-2008, 08:59 PM
Calling up Toronto. Possibly Conklin gave up 4 goals in one period. No definant sign though.

SteelCityMan786
03-12-2008, 09:00 PM
No Goal from the war room.

SteelCityMan786
03-12-2008, 09:05 PM
And Letang puts icing on the cake. Pens Lead 7-3.

BettisFan
03-12-2008, 09:11 PM
Nice we got this one

SteelCityMan786
03-12-2008, 09:12 PM
Nice game Tonight by the Penguins. And well look at that, we're in first place yet again.

BettisFan
03-12-2008, 09:15 PM
Haha lets keep the momentum

SteelCityMan786
03-12-2008, 09:17 PM
Haha lets keep the momentum

I sure wouldn't mind us dropping a 10 spot on Philly. I hate the Flyers. But of course I want them to spank everyone else next week to.

BettisFan
03-12-2008, 09:21 PM
Yea we will keep it going and dont we all hate the flyers lol

pittsburghp8baller
03-12-2008, 10:08 PM
man this game really picked up after i left! i watched the two first periods but missed the rest. great win for us.

83-Steelers-43
03-12-2008, 10:41 PM
Great game by the Pens overall. Young kids stepped up tonight. Four of our goals tonight were by players who were not on the roster at the beginning of the season.

Conklin played a solid game. Limited his rebounds. Made some great passes in the first two periods. The guy even drew a penalty for us and we ended up scoring on the PP. Business as usual for Conklin. Like I said though, I wouldn't be shocked at all to see Therrien throw Fleury back in there against Philly.

What can you say about our PK? Excellent pressure. Dupuis, Staal and Malone all played an excellent game on the PK.

Finally, the Penguins decided to "shoot the puck" on the PP. The result? 3 goals caused by either a screen or deflection. Surprise!!! Watching Malone in front of the net is something else. The guy screened Miller on Gonchar's goal and he completely picked Lydman's pocket in front of Miller to set up Sykora's goal. Beautiful play. I was hoping to see Malone and Weber (two Pittsburgh products) throw down early in the third. No luck though.

Also, congratulations to Minard on his first NHL goal and to Stone on his first NHL assist. Another congratulations to Laraque. Way to throw a chicken shit elbow and costing us five minutes in the box (way to contribute). If it were Crosby or Malkin on the receiving end, people would have been screaming bloody murder in that arena. Laraque better expect a nice suspension from the NHL and rightfully so.

Anyways, great game overall by the Pens. Great to see the young kids step up.

BettisFan
03-12-2008, 10:48 PM
Looks like were heading in the right direction, playoffs are coming up slowly..

X-Terminator
03-13-2008, 06:40 AM
What a game last night! The Pens dominated the game pretty much from start to finish. Other than a few lapses in the 3rd period that led to Buffalo goals, it was a solid effort. I won't blame 2 of those goals on Conklin - he got hung out to dry by the defense on the Hecht goal and Paille's second goal was just a great effort on his part. I'm sure Therrien won't be happy with allowing 3 goals (possibly 5 if two of them weren't waved off) in the third, but he has to be satisfied. Now, if he'll just keep Conklin in the majority of the games the rest of the season, we'll be OK. Something tells me we won't, though - I'm sure Fleury will get the nod on Sunday, which would just be flat-out wrong.

As for Laraque, that was a dirty cheap shot elbow on Paetsch, and I hope the league throws the book at him. Just a stupid and selfish decision on his part. Given that the Stars' Steve Ott and the Flyers' Riley Cote got 3 games each for similar elbows to the head which the league is cracking down on, and that this is Laraque's second major + game misconduct of the season which carries an automatic 1-game suspension, I would say he gets 4-5 games, and deservedly so. You just can't do that, and he'd better be glad the Pens killed off that PP.

Lord Stiller
03-13-2008, 07:19 AM
Like I said though, I wouldn't be shocked at all to see Therrien throw Fleury back in there against Philly.


Fleury will play against Philly. Dont you guys realize by now that Fleury is our starting goalie???? I mean, the Pens have made it crystal clear. Conklin started tonight because he has owned Buffalo this season. Look for Conklin to play a few more games before the season ends and then it's all Fleury in the playoffs. This was a bold move and a smart one by the Pens.

From what I understand, it just wasn't a Therrian decision, Shero & co. also weighed in on the decision.


Figures, the one game i miss we score 7 goals! :banging:

X-Terminator
03-13-2008, 09:42 AM
Fleury will play against Philly. Dont you guys realize by now that Fleury is our starting goalie???? I mean, the Pens have made it crystal clear. Conklin started tonight because he has owned Buffalo this season. Look for Conklin to play a few more games before the season ends and then it's all Fleury in the playoffs. This was a bold move and a smart one by the Pens.

From what I understand, it just wasn't a Therrian decision, Shero & co. also weighed in on the decision.


Figures, the one game i miss we score 7 goals! :banging:

Bold move? Yes. Smart move? Eh, not so much.

You're really saying that you think Fleury should be the guy down the stretch and the playoffs, ignoring Conklin's overall numbers and the fact that he has kept us in damn near every game he's started? Seriously??? Well if that's what the Pens want to do, that's fine. But it's the wrong decision to make. Conklin has been the man, and should be the man, plain and simple. Are we trying to win games here, or are we trying to keep fragile egos from shattering?

Fleury will get his chance to be the man again...next year. Right now, Conklin gives us the best chance to win.

83-Steelers-43
03-13-2008, 09:46 AM
Fleury will play against Philly. Dont you guys realize by now that Fleury is our starting goalie???? I mean, the Pens have made it crystal clear. Conklin started tonight because he has owned Buffalo this season. Look for Conklin to play a few more games before the season ends and then it's all Fleury in the playoffs. This was a bold move and a smart one by the Pens.

I started coming to terms with that possibility when Therrien started Fleury against Washington after pulling him in the Florida game.

A part of me is still holding out hope, but it's not looking good for the goalie who's sporting a .927 sv % and who is also the main reason why we are even talking playoffs at this point in the season. People can praise Malkin until they are blue in the face (I'm not taking anything away from Malkin), but it's goaltending that keeps you in games. Look no further than Jersey. Take Marty off that team, where would they be?

It's going to be a blast watching Fleury's lack of rebound control for the remainder of the season, Fleury going down early and our defense playing on it's toes when Fleury plays the puck instead of watching clean breakouts like we witnessed last night when Conklin touched the puck. :coffee:

I think many in this city underestimate what Conklin brings to the table when it comes to our defense playing a more comfortable game of hockey. Those same people may find out the hard way before all is said and done this year.

Lord Stiller
03-13-2008, 09:54 AM
You're really saying that you think Fleury should be the guy down the stretch and the playoffs, ignoring Conklin's overall numbers and the fact that he has kept us in damn near every

It doesn't matter what you or I think. We are not a coach or manager on the Pens.

Fleury being our guy was a move that has already been made

for the record, I dont like Fluery either but I have come to terms with the decision

83-Steelers-43
03-13-2008, 09:59 AM
I dont like Fluery either but I have come to terms with the decision

This was a bold move and a smart one by the Pens.

:huh: :confused:

LS, I'm not trying to be a smartass here (I respect your views and opinions no matter what), but am I missing something here?

I understand and agree that it is a bold move on Therrien's part.

I also understand and I'm starting (still holding out hope) to agree that coming to terms with the decision is inevitable even though I completely disagree with the decision.

I do not understand how it's a "smart one" on Therrien's part, particulary when you state that you do not like Fleury and at one point in season you brought up trading him.

83-Steelers-43
03-13-2008, 10:44 AM
Calling up Toronto. Possibly Conklin gave up 4 goals in one period. No definant sign though.

Obviously there were different circumstances involved, but that save gave me an instant flashback.....

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