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tony hipchest
10-19-2006, 02:19 PM
im still bummed steve irwin is dead.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/STINGRAY_STABBING?SITE=PAGRE&SECTION=US&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Oct 19, 12:38 PM EDT

LIGHTHOUSE POINT, Fla. (AP) -- An 81-year-old man was in critical condition Thursday after a stingray flopped onto his boat and stung him, leaving a foot-long barb in his chest similar to the accident that killed "Crocodile Hunter" Steve Irwin.

"It was a freak accident," said Lighthouse Point acting fire Chief David Donzella. "It's very odd that the thing jumped out of the water and stung him. We still can't believe it."

Fatal stingray attacks like the one that killed Irwin last month at the Great Barrier Reef are rare, marine experts say. Rays reflexively deploy a sharp spine in their tails when frightened, but the venom coating the barb usually causes just a painful sting for humans.

James Bertakis of Lighthouse Point was on the water with his granddaughter and a friend Wednesday when a stingray flopped onto the boat and stung Bertakis. The women steered the boat to shore and called 911.




Doctors were able to remove the barb during surgeries Wednesday and Thursday by eventually pulling it through his heart and closing the wound, said Dr. Eugene Costantini at Broward General Medical Center.

He said Bertakis' case was different from Irwin's because the barb stayed in Bertakis' heart and was not pulled out. Videotape of Irwin's last moments shows him pulling the barb from his chest.

Bertakis was apparently trying to remove the three-foot-wide spotted eagle ray from the boat when he was stung, police Cmdr. Mike Oh said.

Ellen Pikitch, a professor of marine biology and fisheries at the University of Miami, who has been studying stingrays for decades, said they are generally docile.


"Something like this is really, really extraordinarily rare," she said. "Even when they are under duress, they don't usually attack."

Btrice
10-19-2006, 04:25 PM
See I saw an article where that marine biolgist said she had never heard of a case of a stingray attacking a person:
http://www.theregister.com/2006/10/19/stingray_attack/
"Something like this is really, really extraordinarily rare. I've never heard any reports of a stingray attacking a person. Even when they are under duress, they don't usually attack."

Had she missed the entire Steve Irwin thing this summer?

I made a post about this on my own forum today and one of my members said she was probably thinking the first ray was defending itself against Irwin, but either way I consider the act of shoving a foot spike through a person's chest as an attack, regardless of the reason.

sumo
10-19-2006, 04:50 PM
im still bummed steve irwin is dead.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/S/STINGRAY_STABBING?SITE=PAGRE&SECTION=US&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Oct 19, 12:38 PM EDT


Doctors were able to remove the barb during surgeries Wednesday and Thursday by eventually pulling it through his heart and closing the wound, said Dr. Eugene Costantini at Broward General Medical Center.

He said Bertakis' case was different from Irwin's because the barb stayed in Bertakis' heart and was not pulled out. Videotape of Irwin's last moments shows him pulling the barb from his chest.

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Wow -- they say right there -- Irwin's mistake was pulling it out -- if he would have left it in and got to the hospital, he would have had a chance....

MasterOfPuppets
10-19-2006, 06:28 PM
Wow -- they say right there -- Irwin's mistake was pulling it out -- if he would have left it in and got to the hospital, he would have had a chance....

wouldn't that have been difficult with the stingray still attached?

tony hipchest
10-19-2006, 07:17 PM
wouldn't that have been difficult with the stingray still attached?im thinking the barb is like a bee's stinger, although im not a marine biologist by any means.

how as irwin able to bull the barb out, if the stingray was still attached?

how was this 81 year old man able to get to the hospital without the stingray attached?

sumo
10-20-2006, 04:32 PM
im thinking the barb is like a bee's stinger, although im not a marine biologist by any means.

how as irwin able to bull the barb out, if the stingray was still attached?

how was this 81 year old man able to get to the hospital without the stingray attached?

It's like a little spear and it detaches once they sting you - one of my friends got stung while we were surfing in Baja, CA - stuck right into the arch of his foot ...I'm just bummed that Irwin is dead -- me and my kids used to watch him all the time -- the animal channel ran a marathon Irwin thing a couple of days after he died --we watched about five episodes in a row...

klick81
10-21-2006, 01:12 PM
Wow...that's freakin' insane. I'm glad that this guy lived.

floodcitygirl
10-21-2006, 02:05 PM
I used to live in Lighthouse Point, Fla., right on the intercoastal. Never heard of anything like that. Wow.

83-Steelers-43
10-21-2006, 03:55 PM
This calls for a complete war on stingrays and those who harbor stingrays.

sumo
10-23-2006, 11:59 AM
This calls for a complete war on stingrays and those who harbor stingrays.

I know you're kidding but there was a pretty significant effort to try and catch the one that killed Irwin ...it's rare that they harm people - usually it's a sting on the foot because people step on them by accident -- getting stung right in the chest through the heart has got to be a one in a million shot..