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Atlanta Dan
10-26-2006, 03:59 PM
There is a saying that "one" is an interesting example, "two" is a coincidence, but "three" is a trend.

After three terrible performances by the running game on the road and an ongoing inability to get the defense off the field on third down, a plausible case can be made that the Steelers have devolved from their power game of 2004-2005 to the pass happy offense & defense that could never stop anyone on third down (complete with having the QB knocked out of the game with potentially career altering implications) that characterized the 2002-2003 Steelers.

The 2002 team worked within its shortcomings and made the playoffs while the 2003 team arguably was Cowher's most disappointing.

I confess to be being clueless as to which outcome is more likely this season. Other views welcome as always.

MACH1
10-26-2006, 04:02 PM
We may find out after this weekend.
:salute:

SteelCityMan786
10-26-2006, 05:10 PM
We might, it's just a matter of time.

hellbread
10-26-2006, 09:54 PM
i dunno to compare this years team to the 2002-2003 team is really irrelevant...with different players coming in, injuries, tougher schedule...and tommy maddox not under center. this team is a hell of a lot better than those teams. we just made some mistakes with turnovers and a mistake i believe cowher will emphasize on this week going into oakland. but yes i do see the comparison on the 3rd down thing...but at mid season last year we had the same prob but we all know how that ended up. :tt02:

stlrtruck
10-27-2006, 07:33 AM
I see the comparisons and it's scary, very scary (how appropriate for this time of year)!

Our defense, as is the case this year, was great on 1st and 2nd down but on 3rd down they would give up just enough yardage for a first down. It seemed they couldn't get off the field and help themselves out.

Our offense, decided that passing was a great option than the run and for whatever reason, the ball wasn't getting moved. This year may be a little different (at least the last two games) in that the WR's are catching the ball and we're scoring. But we are starting to abandon the run. Parker is not a pounder. Although he's been good at times, we need a RB to compliment Parker, one that can hurt defenses in the 2nd and 3rd quarter so that in the 4th quarter they are too tired and too hurt to catch Willie on the outside!

Our Special Teams - pathethic! In both years. Someone needs to put a fire under the Special Teamers.

But even with all that I still know that our Steelers are not the 2-4 team that the records show. They are 4-2 or 5-1. They've put themselves in a corner and I believe that they will come out fighting and will turn this season into another run, this one ending in Miami with a threepeat of the repeat!!

Who's with me?!
HERE WE GO STEELERS HERE WE GO! :banana: :tt02: :cheer: :tt02: :cheer: :banana:

19ward86
10-27-2006, 08:03 AM
if we lose to the raiders, we might as well retire as fans and as players....

Big D
10-27-2006, 08:07 AM
if we lose to the raiders, we might as well retire as fans and as players....

couldnt agree more. I'll walk with my head down and covered by my terrible towel.

stlrtruck
10-27-2006, 08:36 AM
I'll never lower my head, regardless of the outcome of a game or the season!

Doing that would lower me to the ranks of a clowns, bungles, and/or scubs fan!!

I could never bring myself to any of that!

HometownGal
10-27-2006, 08:39 AM
if we lose to the raiders, we might as well retire as fans and as players....

I wouldn't go that far, 19. I never have and never will take ANY team for granted and I hope the Steelers don't either. The Raiders have pretty much sucked this season, but this week, they're not just playing any old team - they're playing the Super Bowl Champs. Every team who plays us this season has or is going to step it up a notch for that reason alone. We've had a bullseye on our backs since the season started, just like every other previous SB champion. Do I think the Raiders will win? HELL NO! The Steelers need to sit on a pit of hot coals and get that fire back under their arses. :tt02:

tony hipchest
10-27-2006, 09:14 AM
The 2002 team worked within its shortcomings and made the playoffs while the 2003 team arguably was Cowher's most disappointing.

I confess to be being clueless as to which outcome is more likely this season. Other views welcome as always.

this team is much more like the 2002 team. it was in 2002 that the steelers had almost the exact same type of game against the falcons that ended in a tie. it was the year before that on the way to try and secure their best record of 14-2 they gave up a huge lead to the bungles to finish 13-3 (still best in the afc).

ironically these 2 games were the 2 blemmishes on cowhers record going into this year of 100-1-1 with more than a 10 point lead. i think that record has the players and coaches snakebitten in the past 4 games.

we have jumed out to such big leads early against the bengals, chargers, kc, and the falcons, i think the team has just figured they had the game in the bag, based on past record and results.

this team and the talent is far superior to that of 2002 and definitely 2003 (its probably rivals the talent of 95). the loss of jerome hurts BUT holmes and colclough still probably fumble with him on the team. willie and verron probably still get some carries and fumble. and ben still probably throws int's. jerome never prevented kordell from throwing the ball away. this team is built to win without jerome.

the offense and the st just needs to give our attacking defense a little time to rest and quit giving them a short field to defend.

BigDuke6
10-27-2006, 10:42 AM
There's a ton of reasons guys. hipchest zeroes in on some good ones in last paragraph above. The bottom line is this, we first beat Oakland, then the absolute pivotal game of the season becomes Denver. If we win that one at home we are 4-4 at the halfway mark and we can start a run to the playoffs.
Then again at 2-4, every game is the pivotal game of the season. Its our bed, we have to lie in it.

Atlanta Dan
10-27-2006, 11:05 AM
I will just watch the games for enjoyment purposes for now because that is what I have done with the Steelers for a loooong time, win or lose.

As for playoffs, I am not going to try to worry about that until they break off a 5 game winning streak, which would have them at 7-4 and coming off a win at Baltimore.

If they cannot beat Oakland, Denver and New Orleans at home, Cleveland on the road and Baltimore on the road any talk of playoffs is nonsense.

Cape Cod Steel Head
10-27-2006, 01:39 PM
I have a weird feeling that this team is either going to be 10-6, or 6-10.

hellbread
10-27-2006, 02:22 PM
blah it seems a lot of people are giving up on the steelers. a lot of people were singing the same song when we were 7-5 with a slim chance to none to make the playoffs but it happened. this team will surprise a lot of people...once they hold on to the ball of course.

Cape Cod Steel Head
10-27-2006, 02:39 PM
Don't get me wrong. I'm not giving up on them, I just think that they are either going to play to their potential(10-6) which is what I thought that their record would be at the start of the season, or they will continue to find ways to lose games(6-10).:cheers:

herewegosteelers
10-27-2006, 03:24 PM
if we lose to the raiders, we might as well retire as fans and as players....

I would never retire as a STEELERS fan!! I am dieheard through & through!!
If & we wont loose to the raiders I will still support my boys :tt02: :cheer: :sign01:
I wear my STEELERS tatoo proud!!!!!!!!!

augustashark
10-27-2006, 03:36 PM
There's a ton of reasons guys. hipchest zeroes in on some good ones in last paragraph above. The bottom line is this, we first beat Oakland, then the absolute pivotal game of the season becomes Denver. If we win that one at home we are 4-4 at the halfway mark and we can start a run to the playoffs.
Then again at 2-4, every game is the pivotal game of the season. Its our bed, we have to lie in it.

Good post BigDuke, You keep this pace up and you will reach great heights.:cheers:

We should beat Oakland (crosses fingers) and then we have Denver at home. They will be quite fired up for this one, due to us beating them at their place in the AFC Championship. If we get to 4-4 then we start a 8 game season.