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Jason15215
10-30-2006, 10:07 AM
- Im sick of hearing players say "Team play harder against us because we're the defending champions"
- Im sick of hearing Cowher say how good the other team played.
- Im sick of undisciplined 15 yard penalties
- Im sick of Ben saying how good the Oline, Defense, and Special Teams played.
- Im sick of Ward trying to copy the Dirty Bird... The Eagles endzone dance.... Chad Johnson's Riverdance... Dude quit being such a jerk and play football.
- Im sick of "Steeler Football" meaning run first.
- How in the heck do u lose to a team when their QB's rating is 13???
- Im sick of hearing about how it's still "mathmatically possible" for the Steelers to go 6-10 or 7-9 and get a playoff birth.
- Im sick of hearing that the Steelers are better than Cincy and Baltimore.
- Im sick of hearing how Ben is still a top QB in the league

stlrtruck
10-30-2006, 10:43 AM
- Im sick of hearing players say "Team play harder against us because we're the defending champions"
- Im sick of hearing Cowher say how good the other team played.
- Im sick of undisciplined 15 yard penalties
- Im sick of Ben saying how good the Oline, Defense, and Special Teams played.
- Im sick of Ward trying to copy the Dirty Bird... The Eagles endzone dance.... Chad Johnson's Riverdance... Dude quit being such a jerk and play football.
- Im sick of "Steeler Football" meaning run first.
- How in the heck do u lose to a team when their QB's rating is 13???
- Im sick of hearing about how it's still "mathmatically possible" for the Steelers to go 6-10 or 7-9 and get a playoff birth.
- Im sick of hearing that the Steelers are better than Cincy and Baltimore.
- Im sick of hearing how Ben is still a top QB in the league

You're just sick, maybe tired too.
But you're either a fan or you're not.
But if you want truth here it is
1 - Teams do play harder against the Super Bowl champs. Does that make losing to them acceptable...not at all!
2 - Some of those fouls are ticky tack fouls like the refs have been told that the Steelers aren't allowed to do what the other 31 teams can do. But hey, we aren't there to play the refs, we're there to play football.
3 - The only part of the team that hasn't played well is the O-line, ST's and Ben! And Ben is being the player he's suppose to be and putting it all on himself, which isn't a bad thing to do since you gave away 3 games this year!
4 - Steeler Football has always been about the run. Except when we went 6-10 a few years back trying to throw the ball first.
5 - You lose to any team when you give them 14 pts and your QB doesn't check to his other receivers.
6 - THE STEELERS, REGARDLESS of record, WILL ALWAYS be better than the bungles or the ratbirds!!!!! And if you don't believe that, then truly are a troll!
7 - Big Ben is a top QB in this league, he's having a bad year. it happens. Ask Bret, Carson, Peyton, or any other name you want to throw in there!

Either you're a fan or you're not!! It's not just when the team is winning but when they aren't having a good year too!

So what colors do you bleed?

Cry Me a River
10-30-2006, 10:48 AM
blah blah blah

Talk about delusional.

Attyla
10-30-2006, 10:54 AM
As an opposing fan, I have to agree with the "dilunsional" talk. Being a fan is being part of the identity of the team. Players and coaches always say the right things (Unless you are Denny Green) and your guys are just being part of the team.

As for your run first mentality. That is as ingrained into the Pop Culture as the vertical game is for the Raiders. It is what your team is all about.

I for one am always pleased when we are identified as the Rebels of Oakland. It is just part of what we are all about.

Props to Stirtruck....you are a believer, and that can only be a good thing

stlrtruck
10-30-2006, 11:04 AM
Talk about delusional.

I'm sorry when was the last time you've posted anything relevant, let alone intelligent on this board?

Jason15215
10-30-2006, 11:12 AM
"Steeler Football" Is not about the run.... Did you hear that Franco, Rocky, and Jerome retired??? The next to last drive of the game. Ben passes his way all the way down to the 3 yard line, and instead of passing it in the endzoze they had to run 2 times for negative 2 or 3 yards, because thats "Steeler Football" "Steeler football" was about the run when Bettis was here... Bettis isnt here anymore...
Those penalties were justified. Last week Poor Nate gets fined because he gets probably one of the few td's he'll ever get in his career and he wants to celebrate it BY HIMSELF, but Ward (who has had many td's in his career) has to jump in and make fun of the Falcons dirty bird again.
How are the Steelers better that Baltimore this year?
How are they better than the Bengals this year?
How in the world can u say Ben is a top QB this year?
Im a realist. Teams play just as hard against the Steelers as they do against Cleveland.
Favre is at the end of his career thats why he is not playing as well. If you thing P Manning sucks this year then u r the troll.
Im just sick of all of the apologists giving these millionaires a free ride.
BTW the NFL does look at a teams record to decide which team is better, so your "regardless of their record comment" doesnt make any sense. Keep making excuses for them and they will continue to be 6-10.

Jason15215
10-30-2006, 11:20 AM
Our running game consists of a highly paid running back in street clothes every Sunday. A guy that couldnt win a starting job in college, and a player no other team wanted. It's time to change the run first pass later mentallity.

Do u demand greatness from your kids? Or do you just let them fail and make excuses for them like well the teacher is to hard on him/her?
Does your boss let you screw up all of the time because you say every week "Its all my fault I need to do better"?? Does your boss demand results even though u make under 100K a year (I assume we all make less than that for the most part). What if you were paid 3 million a year... Would u be expected by your boss and coworkers to not screw up? Season ticket holders pay good money to see the team play well, and not play undisciplined.

stlrtruck
10-30-2006, 11:21 AM
I'm old enough to know that we no longer have Franco, Rocky, or The Bus.
I'm also aware that this team's identity is the run, has been and always will be. I'm not saying we shouldn't pass, and I'm not saying that there aren't times to pass. But if you look what happened on the one pass play that did get thrown into the end zone, it was incomplete. I can sit here all day and play shoulda, coulda, woulda with you but that's fruitless.
The Steelers are always better than the other 31 teams because I'm a fan! Doesn't matter record or not, Super Bowl champions or not...THEY ARE BETTER. PERIOD!
How can you not say Ben is a top 10 QB? The overall problem isn't Ben, yes he's made some poor decisions but he also hasn't had the consistentcy in the O-line.
I don't think Peyton is playing poorly. My point is, is that Peyton has had bad games. It happens to all QBs, look at McNabb yesterday.
I don't apologize for the players and I definitely don't think they should get a free ride.
But as I stated before...you're either in it when they lose or you shouldn't be in it when they win it all!
Your post, imho, read like you're one of those people that want to be in it only when the win!

Hines86Ward
10-30-2006, 11:43 AM
I'm old enough to know that we no longer have Franco, Rocky, or The Bus.
I'm also aware that this team's identity is the run, has been and always will be. I'm not saying we shouldn't pass, and I'm not saying that there aren't times to pass. But if you look what happened on the one pass play that did get thrown into the end zone, it was incomplete. I can sit here all day and play shoulda, coulda, woulda with you but that's fruitless.
The Steelers are always better than the other 31 teams because I'm a fan! Doesn't matter record or not, Super Bowl champions or not...THEY ARE BETTER. PERIOD!
How can you not say Ben is a top 10 QB? The overall problem isn't Ben, yes he's made some poor decisions but he also hasn't had the consistentcy in the O-line.
I don't think Peyton is playing poorly. My point is, is that Peyton has had bad games. It happens to all QBs, look at McNabb yesterday.
I don't apologize for the players and I definitely don't think they should get a free ride.
But as I stated before...you're either in it when they lose or you shouldn't be in it when they win it all!
Your post, imho, read like you're one of those people that want to be in it only when the win!

^^^I agree 100% with that!

Btrice
10-30-2006, 12:15 PM
"Steeler Football" Is not about the run.... Did you hear that Franco, Rocky, and Jerome retired??? The next to last drive of the game. Ben passes his way all the way down to the 3 yard line, and instead of passing it in the endzoze they had to run 2 times for negative 2 or 3 yards, because thats "Steeler Football" "Steeler football" was about the run when Bettis was here... Bettis isnt here anymore...
Those penalties were justified. Last week Poor Nate gets fined because he gets probably one of the few td's he'll ever get in his career and he wants to celebrate it BY HIMSELF, but Ward (who has had many td's in his career) has to jump in and make fun of the Falcons dirty bird again.
How are the Steelers better that Baltimore this year?
How are they better than the Bengals this year?
How in the world can u say Ben is a top QB this year?
Im a realist. Teams play just as hard against the Steelers as they do against Cleveland.
Favre is at the end of his career thats why he is not playing as well. If you thing P Manning sucks this year then u r the troll.
Im just sick of all of the apologists giving these millionaires a free ride.
BTW the NFL does look at a teams record to decide which team is better, so your "regardless of their record comment" doesnt make any sense. Keep making excuses for them and they will continue to be 6-10.

Since you are a new guy here I will let you in on a little secret. Those of us who are realists are "bandwagon", "not true fans", and "trolls" around here. You'll find there are a few of us though so no reason to leave. Just stay away from the koolaid and rose colored glasses that get passed around.

Need4spd
10-30-2006, 12:24 PM
you're either in it when they lose or you shouldn't be in it when they win it all!
Your post, imho, read like you're one of those people that want to be in it only when the win!

It sounds like you're suggesting that if someone is objective about their team that in some way that makes them less of a fan, am I correct? If not, please feel free to correct me. If so, that's absolutely ridiculous. I would assume that since you're a "fan" you've been watching the Steelers play this season, if that's the case then you should know that just because you're a "fan" doesn't make the Steelers better than anybody, let alone the other 31 teams in the league. In the real world we call this being realistic, and it doesn't make anyone who is realistic any less of a fan. Remember, the word is objectivity, look it up friend.

SteelersMongol
10-30-2006, 12:37 PM
"Steeler Football" Is not about the run.... Did you hear that Franco, Rocky, and Jerome retired??? The next to last drive of the game. Ben passes his way all the way down to the 3 yard line, and instead of passing it in the endzoze they had to run 2 times for negative 2 or 3 yards, because thats "Steeler Football" "Steeler football" was about the run when Bettis was here... Bettis isnt here anymore...
Those penalties were justified. Last week Poor Nate gets fined because he gets probably one of the few td's he'll ever get in his career and he wants to celebrate it BY HIMSELF, but Ward (who has had many td's in his career) has to jump in and make fun of the Falcons dirty bird again.
How are the Steelers better that Baltimore this year?
How are they better than the Bengals this year?
How in the world can u say Ben is a top QB this year?
Im a realist. Teams play just as hard against the Steelers as they do against Cleveland.
Favre is at the end of his career thats why he is not playing as well. If you thing P Manning sucks this year then u r the troll.
Im just sick of all of the apologists giving these millionaires a free ride.
BTW the NFL does look at a teams record to decide which team is better, so your "regardless of their record comment" doesnt make any sense. Keep making excuses for them and they will continue to be 6-10.

With or without Bus we'll still be playing football. And this is from true Bus's fan! We will run, we'll pass. We'll do whatever seemed good at the moment. :coffee:

When Nate gets TD, Ward can't get excited? Or did you think Ward joined in on purpose so Nate will get the penalty? :dang:

Steelers still are the better team than any other 31 teams, if not as good as they are. Otherwise we wouldn't call ourselves Steelers fans. At the moment, yeah the Baltimore and Cincy put out some good numbers, but everyone gets their ups and downs. Ben is not playing well right now, but overall his rating is still not in the garbage. When Napoleon lost at Waterloo, did we take away his One-of-the-greatest-generals-in-history title? :banging:

You're not a believer, you're still not saying what are you. So don't go jumping on my team and fans, please. There is a saying that goes "A friend's true quality will show when you're going through tough times." And when you say Favre or Payton is so much better than Ben, I'm sure there is a room for you at the Colts and Packers webs. :wave:

Cry Me a River
10-30-2006, 12:43 PM
I'm sorry when was the last time you've posted anything relevant, let alone intelligent on this board?

Today, 07:48 AM

MACH1
10-30-2006, 12:46 PM
Since you are a new guy here I will let you in on a little secret. Those of us who are realists are "bandwagon", "not true fans", and "trolls" around here. You'll find there are a few of us though so no reason to leave. Just stay away from the koolaid and rose colored glasses that get passed around.


I?ve been a steeler fan since the ripe old age of 8, I am now 39. If you want to call me a bandwagoner that?s fine. But I know when reality hits. This team doesn?t have the same fire that it did last year, something?s missing be it leadership or whatever. They don?t have it this year. Some people need a reality check around here. If they do go on to make the playoffs I will be there, if they don?t I will still be there and always will. I bleed black N gold just like the rest of you. So???
HERE WE GO STEELERS!
:tt02: :tt02: :tt02: :tt02:

DACEB
10-30-2006, 12:55 PM
Since you are a new guy here I will let you in on a little secret. Those of us who are realists are "bandwagon", "not true fans", and "trolls" around here. You'll find there are a few of us though so no reason to leave. Just stay away from the koolaid and rose colored glasses that get passed around.

Thanks, I was starting to think I was a terribly bad fan!

The team OWES it to the fans to play to the level they are capable of. The coaches owe it to the fans to make sure they are ready to play at that level. Neither of which has been the case so far this season!
:banging:

stlrtruck
10-30-2006, 01:05 PM
It sounds like you're suggesting that if someone is objective about their team that in some way that makes them less of a fan, am I correct? If not, please feel free to correct me. If so, that's absolutely ridiculous. I would assume that since you're a "fan" you've been watching the Steelers play this season, if that's the case then you should know that just because you're a "fan" doesn't make the Steelers better than anybody, let alone the other 31 teams in the league. In the real world we call this being realistic, and it doesn't make anyone who is realistic any less of a fan. Remember, the word is objectivity, look it up friend.

I have no problem with objectivity (no need to look it up friend)! I have no problem with being a realist either. However, I come from the point of view that regardless of record, the Steelers are and always will be the best team in the NFL!! And in no way am I implying that other fans who feel differently are less of a fan.

Black@Gold Forever32
10-30-2006, 01:08 PM
All I'm going to say I think its ok to be critical of your team. But alot of this crap has gone way to far. We can piss and moan all we want. But that doesn't change the Steelers 2-5 record. If the Steelers miss the playoffs. I say so what. Come on guys us Steelers fans have had it better then most other NFL fans in Bill Cowher's time with the Steelers.

Most of my friends are diehard Bears fans and all were to young to remember the 1985 season. So I think they would have been happy to have had the success the Steelers have had in the time Bill Cowher has been our coach.

I will close by saying I'm not happy at all about the Steelers 2-5 start and do agree that Bill Cowher's heart might not be 100 percent in it this year. I do think he is burnt out. Which is understandable when you consider the pressure that comes from coaching in NFL team for 14 years. But the Steelers are still my team and I could care less if they finish 2-14. I'll continue to be a fan and enjoy the rest of the season win or lose. So stop the bitching (which I have been guilty at times this year also) it really doesn't change a thing. When you think about it.

Need4spd
10-30-2006, 01:25 PM
I have no problem with objectivity (no need to look it up friend)! I have no problem with being a realist either. However, I come from the point of view that regardless of record, the Steelers are and always will be the best team in the NFL!! And in no way am I implying that other fans who feel differently are less of a fan.

Ok, what I said about looking it up was unnecessary, forgive me for that. I'm just tired of seeing the personal attacks being made against people on this board who are merely being objective. Not that you've done this, at least not to my knowledge, but already I've read a countless number of threads where people are being called "fair-weather" fans, or "bandwagoners," or my personal favorite, "trolls," just because they a difference of opinion from those people who continue to make excuses for this team. The Steelers are as good as what their record indicates. In 2 of their 7 games this season they played pretty well and won those games rather convincingly, the other 5 games however they deserved to lose.

augustashark
10-30-2006, 01:31 PM
Our running game consists of a highly paid running back in street clothes every Sunday. A guy that couldnt win a starting job in college, and a player no other team wanted. It's time to change the run first pass later mentallity.

Do u demand greatness from your kids? Or do you just let them fail and make excuses for them like well the teacher is to hard on him/her?
Does your boss let you screw up all of the time because you say every week "Its all my fault I need to do better"?? Does your boss demand results even though u make under 100K a year (I assume we all make less than that for the most part). What if you were paid 3 million a year... Would u be expected by your boss and coworkers to not screw up? Season ticket holders pay good money to see the team play well, and not play undisciplined.


You have less then 10 posts but props to you my friend, this is completely the way I feel! If I made the mistakes that these guys are making I would be fired and looking for another job.

Also when Ben said that the Ref fell down in the endzone on the 4th down play????? WTF is that! DON'T GIVE ME EXCUSES GIVE ME RESULTS!

Anyway good post.

stlrtruck
10-30-2006, 01:36 PM
I knew you were kidding, at least I was hoping you were kidding, and I tried to do the same in my reply but I think translation was lost in both messages.
I'll never personally attack someone for being objective or a realist. Everyone is entitled for their opinion and to post it.
Me, I'm more of an optimistic person, and it takes a little longer for the realist in me to take over. If the next few weeks go like the early part of this season, then I'll be a realist soon.
As for the first 7 games, I honestly believe that we've only deserved to lose 2 of the 5 games we've lost and that we've gift wrapped 3 of them! But either way, they are a L at the end of the game and regardless of how they lose them, it's still a L!
And I'll just always believe that my team is the best team in the NFL!