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hardwork
11-05-2006, 10:45 PM
We had our chances, we made mistakes, they beat us. We have to get better if we want to go further then we did last year.

Hines0wnz
11-05-2006, 10:47 PM
You guys dont have Peyton spooked anymore. Brady looked more like Peyton in the recent past.

Black@Gold Forever32
11-05-2006, 10:47 PM
We had our chances, we made mistakes, they beat us. We have to get better if we want to go further then we did last year.

The Pats will rebound. This team has shown that it always rebounds after a loss. I would still pick the Pats over the Colts in the playoffs. The Pats have the track record in the playoff unlike the Colts.

Livinginthe past
11-05-2006, 10:49 PM
You are definitely right HW.

Reminded me of the Denver game last year in the playoffs - our D really stiffened 2nd half and didnt give Manning much but our offense committed turnover after turnover.

Manning looked like the big game QB today - kudos to him and his team.

I thought we might pull something out of the fire after Adam V missed that last FG - but it wasn't to be with Kevin Faulk causing yet another costly turnover.

You know, im pretty frustrated at the playcalling 2nd half - all those empty back field plays were great against the Vikes played into the strength of the Colts to are playmakers but can be beat up physically.

It hurts losing to the Colts, but I think we';ll make the postseason anyway.

NM

Livinginthe past
11-05-2006, 10:53 PM
The Pats will rebound. This team has shown that it always rebounds after a loss. I would still pick the Pats over the Colts in the playoffs. The Pats have the track record in the playoff unlike the Colts.

Kudos to you aswell 32, classy post.

I think the Patriots are always a 'work in progress' during the regular season and the Colts are as good as they are going to be at that time.

Manning looked calm tonight - but he made some real close passes - his 2nd TD was an unbelieveably good play by Marvin Harisson and he almost threw 2/3 picks in the 2nd half - but he didnt and he deserves his win.

NM

hardwork
11-05-2006, 10:59 PM
You are definitely right HW.

Reminded me of the Denver game last year in the playoffs - our D really stiffened 2nd half and didnt give Manning much but our offense committed turnover after turnover.

Manning looked like the big game QB today - kudos to him and his team.

I thought we might pull something out of the fire after Adam V missed that last FG - but it wasn't to be with Kevin Faulk causing yet another costly turnover.

You know, im pretty frustrated at the playcalling 2nd half - all those empty back field plays were great against the Vikes played into the strength of the Colts to are playmakers but can be beat up physically.

It hurts losing to the Colts, but I think we';ll make the postseason anyway.

NM


Yeah, I think there were some coaching errors.

You really have to see the game film to know what happened. What you see on TV is not what you necessarily see in the film. For example the interception that was caused by Watson tipping the ball. I'd like to see the whole field on that play.

And yes, kudos to Manning.

Black@Gold Forever32
11-05-2006, 11:02 PM
Kudos to you aswell 32, classy post.

I think the Patriots are always a 'work in progress' during the regular season and the Colts are as good as they are going to be at that time.

Manning looked calm tonight - but he made some real close passes - his 2nd TD was an unbelieveably good play by Marvin Harisson and he almost threw 2/3 picks in the 2nd half - but he didnt and he deserves his win.

NM

Yea the Colts did play well tonight. It pains me to say that Peyton Manning did play well. But the Pats will win the AFC East. Might as well give them the AFC East right now and I think the Pats will have the number 2 seed in the AFC. In the AFC title game the Pats will go into Indy and beat the Colts. I wouldn't bet on Brady having 4 INT's again if indeed there is rematch between these two teams.

hardwork
11-05-2006, 11:04 PM
The Pats will rebound. This team has shown that it always rebounds after a loss. I would still pick the Pats over the Colts in the playoffs. The Pats have the track record in the playoff unlike the Colts.

As LITP said, thanks. I hope you're right. This team needs some more confidence.

Cape Cod Steel Head
11-06-2006, 06:21 AM
Yeah, I think there were some coaching errors.

You really have to see the game film to know what happened. What you see on TV is not what you necessarily see in the film. For example the interception that was caused by Watson tipping the ball. I'd like to see the whole field on that play.

And yes, kudos to Manning.Coaching errors by the Great BB.? Surely it must have been one of his assistant coaches that made the errors. You've played two good teams and lost to them both. Yes you'll make the playoffs. How could you not with that cream puff schedule, but you won't be going far.:cheers:

Atlanta Dan
11-06-2006, 07:13 AM
Colts now win home field tiebreakers over Denver and the Pats, so Indy probably has home field advantage in the playoffs.

The Steelers beat them last January and they still are soft against the run, but that is a team built for the dome in which they probably will be playing in January. Pats and Chargers can give them a game; Denver will lose by at least 10 points in Indy.

With Chicago having issues these days the Colts look like the class of the league at the halfway point.

As for the NFC, who knows? If the Giants beat the Bears next Sunday night they may be the team to beat in the NFC (and might even get home field) and I can begin to dread the media hype surrounding an Eli-Peyton Super Bowl match up fueled by the New York media.

Ambridge
11-06-2006, 07:32 AM
13 rushes a piece for both Dillon and Maroney for a combined total of a little more than a 100yds.

WTF????

Something tells me if the Pats get one or both of those guys 20+ touches running the ball against the Colts there could have been a different outcome.

3 to be 4
11-06-2006, 10:00 AM
the Colts still need to do it in a championship Game. But for right now, the Colts and Broncos are the best teams ive seen with the Bears #3 then

4. Patriots
5. Ravens
6. Chargers
7. Giants

Ambridge
11-06-2006, 10:25 AM
the Colts still need to do it in a championship Game. But for right now, the Colts and Broncos are the best teams ive seen with the Bears #3 then

4. Patriots
5. Ravens
6. Chargers
7. Giants

You're pretty generous having the Bears at #3.
Chicago got exposed yesterday against the Phins which pretty much confirms that the bad game they had against Arizona wasn't a fluke.

I'd put the Bears at #7 and move every other team up one spot.

Livinginthe past
11-06-2006, 01:16 PM
Colts now win home field tiebreakers over Denver and the Pats, so Indy probably has home field advantage in the playoffs.

The Steelers beat them last January and they still are soft against the run, but that is a team built for the dome in which they probably will be playing in January. Pats and Chargers can give them a game; Denver will lose by at least 10 points in Indy.

With Chicago having issues these days the Colts look like the class of the league at the halfway point.

As for the NFC, who knows? If the Giants beat the Bears next Sunday night they may be the team to beat in the NFC (and might even get home field) and I can begin to dread the media hype surrounding an Eli-Peyton Super Bowl match up fueled by the New York media.

I think you are right regarding the potential match ups - the Colts are built for dome football and the Bronco's would probably be exposed in that type of arena.

However, any team that can play with a lead of 7 points of more will be able to commit to the run and have the Colts watch in vain as the clock runs out while they try and stop it - Indy were never behind against New England - thats when Manning tries to force things - just like Brady did last night.

The Colts ALWAYS seem to look the class of the NFL at the half way point.

NM

Livinginthe past
11-06-2006, 01:20 PM
13 rushes a piece for both Dillon and Maroney for a combined total of a little more than a 100yds.

WTF????

Something tells me if the Pats get one or both of those guys 20+ touches running the ball against the Colts there could have been a different outcome.

I had a hard time understanding why the coaches went away from the running game and into the spread formation they showed against the Vikes who were 100 times better at stopping the run.

Was it a double bluff? trying to win mind games ahead of a potential playoff match up?

Who knows, by us losing that one Manning gains a little more confidence and gets a little closer to HFA throughout that posseason.

NM

tony hipchest
11-07-2006, 09:32 AM
good read courtesy peter king

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/writers/peter_king/11/05/mmqb/index.html

The eight points I learned about 8-0 Indianapolis and the fumbling Patriots on Sunday night:

1. The Patriots are continuing an annoying little habit of playing lousy when the lights are brightest. They're 1-3 in biggies in the last 12 months. A year ago they stunk it up in a 40-21 loss to Indy at home. They beat Jacksonville 28-3 in a wild-card game at home, not a surprising accomplishment against a team with a gimpy quarterback on a frigid night. Then they stunk it up again in the 27-13 divisional playoff loss at Denver. And on Sunday night, with the Colts again in their house trying to remain the only unbeaten team in football, the Patriots committed five turnovers, missed a chippy field goal and let Indy's receivers run like Colts in a meadow. I know three of Tom Brady's interceptions were tipped, but the Patriots were still too careless with the ball. That Corey Dillon fumble was a fumble, by the way, so no carping on that one.

2. Peyton Manning looks like he's ready to win the big one to me. I'm not saying the Colts will necessarily. Turnovers are funny things, and I could see New England winning a game in the RCA Dome in January, even a game in which Manning plays well. But I would like to put that annoying he-can't-win-the-big-one story to bed. A quarterback just can't play better than Manning's playing.

My favorite Manning play from Sunday night: New England was desperately trying to keep the Colts within seven late in the fourth quarter so the Pats could have one more shot at tying the game. On second-and-8 from the New England 46, Manning took a short drop and looked for tight end Ben Utecht up the right seam. Just as he threw, he was sandwiched by two Patriot rushers, and he managed to fling his arm forward. The ball fluttered out toward Utecht. He dove for it, caught it and made a first down. Gain of 13. That was Manning's ugliest completion of the night. It was also his prettiest.

3. John Madden was absolutely right midway through the second half when he wondered, incredulously, why the Patriots were running all this trick horsecrap instead of just pounding away at a bad run defense. New England ran it well -- 33 times for 148 yards -- and maybe it wasn't as good as they thought at 4.5 yards a clip, but it was still plenty good to keep the chains moving.

4. Sometimes Bill Belichick outsmarts himself. Very rarely, but this was one of the nights.

5. If Indianapolis free safety Bob Sanders is still hurt, then he's going to be Ronnie Lott when healthy. He was a big factor in an improved run defense, and he gave the Colts a hammer in the secondary that they'd been missing. Eleven tackles, an interception, a pass deflection. Not bad for a guy who hadn't played in seven weeks.

6. The Patriots aren't the same team without Rodney Harrison. They lost him three plays into the game with what appeared to be a right shoulder or arm injury, and there went the physical game they knew they had to play in the secondary. I guarantee you this: If Harrison had played four quarters, you wouldn't have seen the Colts running unencumbered through the secondary like that. That was part of New England's plan -- have Harrison nail everything that moved back there. Chad Scott's just not anywhere near the physical presence Harrison is.

7. Marvin Harrison was supposed to be a nonfactor in this game, but he played at a Jerry Rice level. Which, by the way, will be a good comparison when he retires. Harrison's 21 catches from becoming the fourth receiver to catch 1,000 balls in his career, and he'll pass both Tim Brown and Cris Carter in 2007, if he remains injury-free. When Rodney Harrison went out, up stepped Marvin Harrison, with 145 yards worth of impact. And his one-armed, balancing-act catch in the end zone ... That one had better be shown in Canton in August 2019, when he's enshrined.

8. This is the best matchup in football today. Only the Red Sox and Yankees, for sheer drama, match it. When the Colts and Patriots play, all I can think of is one of those Red Sox-Yankees playoff games from 2003 or 2004. You can't turn away from a single play. I'm praying we see a replay on Jan. 21, even if it has to be in the hermetically sealed confines of the RCA Dome.