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Elvis
11-30-2006, 01:40 PM
:tt02: :helmet:
If you were our Organization and you had a choice... Which would you pick.. a Power RB to replace Parker and then use Parker as a change of pace and get more yardage from him after the Power Guy wears them down... OR A young upcoming Shut down corner to help our defense that it has not had since Rod Woodson days....
The Running game would help us a whole lot and it would keep the ball out of the other teams possession thus helping our defense but our Secondary needs help very badly right now and this corner would help imensely...
So, which will it be guys/gals... lets hear your opinions...
I GO RB on my choice... But I am not sure who this would be...:coffee: :wave:

Steel12
11-30-2006, 01:48 PM
Defensive back by far. Willie is fine but our secondary is HORRIBLE!

SteelShooter
11-30-2006, 06:54 PM
:stupid: I'm down with that!!!! :iagree:

jtdapit
11-30-2006, 08:45 PM
Yeah dude, DB all the way. I mean Najeah Davenport is becoming an asset to our running game. He knows how to run thourgh guys. And willie knows how to avoid them. I think we're set there. But our DBs.... just not the same. Definitley need someone to come in. And not a rookie. One with great experience. Agree?

lilyoder6
12-01-2006, 10:18 AM
yea.. i think ike taylor is having a bad yr.. but townsend is getting old and we're goin to need a new corner.. hopefully some one pops up in free agency. and then we can draft a tall ass receiver so he can get the jump balls.. maybe jeff s. from notre dame.. i think we are goin to have to get some ppl on def to take over soon...

Preacher
12-01-2006, 06:38 PM
DB.. Period.

Hoff
12-05-2006, 08:17 PM
Some idiot told me we should draft a quarterback in the first round. XD

I think the reason our secondary has been so bad is due to Troy being out, so I think we should go for a big bruiser at running back. Or we could trade for Brandon Jacobs from the Giants. I'm not sure what we'd trade for him without losing a key person.

Dook
12-10-2006, 11:46 AM
I don't like the question.

Just because you get a power back doesn't mean you replace Parker. Also there is no such thing as a shutdown corner and there never has been. What CB has never had a pass completed on them?

I'll take a new young power RB to develop for the future. I like Najeh as a #2 but I wouldn't want to have to go into the playoffs with him as our starter (if Willie was hurt).

Our CB's are not as bad as everyone thinks, they're just asked to play 15 yards off WR's so they don't get beat deep. This way the safety (Troy) can sneak up and blitz or make offenses "think" he is going to blitz.

We're just not getting enough pressure on opposing QB's. In our system the pressure comes from LB and CB's blitzing. Teams have been picking it up and calling quick pass plays to beat it. This year the problem is more the system than the players.

This great shutdown CB you all want? Umm, who is he? Are you going to clone Champ Bailey when he was in his prime? Otherwise, he doesn't exist.

Dook
12-10-2006, 11:52 AM
Anyone remember Michael Huff and Donte Whitner, the best two safeties in last years draft?

Check out their numbers at NFL.com. Huff is barely on the board. Whitner is better, he's in the top 15.

polamalufan43
12-10-2006, 05:01 PM
I think we should wait until the season is over before we even consider anything. Right now, I'm leaning alittle toward a DB, but that could change

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

Elvis
12-18-2006, 10:36 AM
First of all.. these are just my opinions so dont get mad at me please...
I just think that Champ Bailey has Never been the corner Rod Woodson ever was.. he is not the or ever been the corner Deion Sanders was.... He is never been a shut down corner in my opinion. Our secondary is not as bad as we think?...:jawdrop: We face a new pro bowl QB every weekend... thats how good we make everyone of them look.. I think there is no doubt that we need DB help and I am thinking more toward this way because I think that it is our o line that needs the help like the secondary.MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL :wave:

Drizztbob
12-18-2006, 10:26 PM
DB no doubt...who is that kid from Florida? I need to find his name.

Infamix
12-20-2006, 01:11 PM
:tt02: :helmet:
If you were our Organization and you had a choice... Which would you pick.. a Power RB to replace Parker and then use Parker as a change of pace and get more yardage from him after the Power Guy wears them down... OR A young upcoming Shut down corner to help our defense that it has not had since Rod Woodson days....
The Running game would help us a whole lot and it would keep the ball out of the other teams possession thus helping our defense but our Secondary needs help very badly right now and this corner would help imensely...
So, which will it be guys/gals... lets hear your opinions...
I GO RB on my choice... But I am not sure who this would be...:coffee: :wave:

Power RB to REPLACE Willie? I think that's a little too much there, wedosteelers. Parker is a fine back and will continue to perform. We need to focus on our offensive line so that PARKER can make even more plays, and address our good but aging linebackers.

ShutDown24
12-20-2006, 02:49 PM
Uhm... Neither?

1. Willie is a pro bowl running back and has proved he can carry the load. We do need a power runner but no way do we go to the draft for that. We can get T.J. Duckett (A former #1 pick and great power back) who will be a free agent after this year for little money... The best option with a power back btw... Is for him to spell Willie, not the otherway around.

2. Ike and Bryant Mcfadden in the d backfield sounds pretty darn good to me next year. Ike is a great player having a bad season, just like Ben and many other Steelers, but Im not hearing calls to draft a QB early.

We dont need either of those positions any higher than the third round. What we need is an OLB to replace Joey (I beleive hes leaving and think that he should leave) and were going to need a center in the mid rounds because as good as Jeff Hartings is, he is well into his thirtys now and got handeled in quite a few games this year and last year. Another need were gonna have somewhere down the line is an ILB, James Farrior is past thirty now too and while we have some good backups right now, none of them can be clear cut starters in this league now or in the for-seeable future.

Thats my veiw and I think its the right way to go.

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
12-20-2006, 04:20 PM
We need to get our defense back to the steal curtain

skidboot
12-20-2006, 05:23 PM
DB no doubt...who is that kid from Florida? I need to find his name.




who Reggie Nelson?

He's a S.





if we have a shot at the guy from Michigan, Leon Hall and pass him up I'll be a wee bit p'd.

skidboot
12-20-2006, 05:26 PM
Uhm... Neither?

1. Willie is a pro bowl running back and has proved he can carry the load. We do need a power runner but no way do we go to the draft for that. We can get T.J. Duckett (A former #1 pick and great power back) who will be a free agent after this year for little money... The best option with a power back btw... Is for him to spell Willie, not the otherway around.

2. Ike and Bryant Mcfadden in the d backfield sounds pretty darn good to me next year. Ike is a great player having a bad season, just like Ben and many other Steelers, but Im not hearing calls to draft a QB early.

We dont need either of those positions any higher than the third round. What we need is an OLB to replace Joey (I beleive hes leaving and think that he should leave) and were going to need a center in the mid rounds because as good as Jeff Hartings is, he is well into his thirtys now and got handeled in quite a few games this year and last year. Another need were gonna have somewhere down the line is an ILB, James Farrior is past thirty now too and while we have some good backups right now, none of them can be clear cut starters in this league now or in the for-seeable future.

Thats my veiw and I think its the right way to go.



the Steelers tend to stay away from LBers in the first rd. they usually select a "tweener" when they go looking for LBers.

Lets hope they don't take on a Huey Richardson!!!.......or Alonzo Jackson.

ShutDown24
12-20-2006, 06:30 PM
omg... Dont even say that last name here ever again lol

Stillers#1
12-21-2006, 09:01 PM
:tt02: :helmet:
If you were our Organization and you had a choice... Which would you pick.. a Power RB to replace Parker and then use Parker as a change of pace and get more yardage from him after the Power Guy wears them down... OR A young upcoming Shut down corner to help our defense that it has not had since Rod Woodson days....
The Running game would help us a whole lot and it would keep the ball out of the other teams possession thus helping our defense but our Secondary needs help very badly right now and this corner would help imensely...
So, which will it be guys/gals... lets hear your opinions...
I GO RB on my choice... But I am not sure who this would be...:coffee: :wave:

Not to be rude or anything, but you want to replace a Pro-Bowl running back?

I know everyone misses Jerome, but lets be serious, he was the change of pace last year, not Willie. We won a SB with Willie as our RB, and now he is a pro-bowler, andf he's what....25? He is only going to get better. I see no reason to even think about adding a RB to the roster in this off-season, unless we get a chance at TJ Duckett.

IMO we need to look at a nickel back in the 3rd-4th round, I think we need to take a look at some O-line or LB considerations in the first few rounds, those guys aren't gettin any younger. To see we need to replace Willie, I dunno, it's just a bit pre-mature, and plain ole dumb if you ask me.

lamberts-lost-tooth
12-22-2006, 11:13 AM
omg... Dont even say that last name here ever again lol

how about Jamain Stephens!!!:jawdrop:

skidboot
12-22-2006, 02:26 PM
why when I see hear the name Jamain Stephens I think of Chris Conrad and Kris Farris?


:eek:

Elvis
12-24-2006, 07:59 AM
:tt02: Hey guys/gals.. I am not looking to replace Willie, I love Willie but we need a power back to go with him. Someone that can run the ball late in the game to just run the clock out. I have since changed my stance on what we need most and foremost on our team and that is O Line and DB help. Our secondary is in schambles right now and we need a top notch corner more than anything. I agree that our LB's are getting old and we need replacements for atleast 2 spots there.. one for Farrior and one for Porter. I still would love to see us get a good young power back to take that late game pressure off Parker. I dont believe that T.J. Duckett is the answer though... definitely not.
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO EVERYONE....:wave:

LarryNJ
12-24-2006, 10:29 AM
I'd go for a CB in the early rounds you usually can find a good power back in the later rounds.

Dook
12-24-2006, 11:00 AM
Honestly there aren't many openings on our OL. Yeah I want a dominant OL but where do we get one from?

Hartings should retire or be released but we still have two centers behind him. We may lose Starks to free agency but we have Colon and Essex as backups. We might take another OG for depth but that's about it. Don't expect a draft pick to come in and take over for our starters.

There are free agent OL available but they haven't proven to be better than our starters and we just don't have the cap space to sign one.

Our secondary is not in schambles, it was the system. They're not sending the safety blitzes anymore so the CB's have help deep now. Polo at less than 100% just wasn't getting pressure on the QB. McFadden and Taylor are fine.

Porter has one more year on his contract, if he goes then James Harrison comes in and we wouldn't notice a difference. Check the stats, Farrior is our best LB and even though he is getting old he has a few years left with us. Haggans is a free agent after next season so likely we look for a replacement for him this offseason, we might just sign LB Kawika Mitchel of the Chiefs. And I'm sure we take another LB in the draft.

As for RB, I like Tony Hunt in the 2nd or 3rd round of the draft. Many people want big Michael Bush but he is still limping from his leg injury and Tony Hunt is 230 lbs, almost as big.

SteelCzar76
12-25-2006, 06:27 PM
:tt02: :helmet:
If you were our Organization and you had a choice... Which would you pick.. a Power RB to replace Parker and then use Parker as a change of pace and get more yardage from him after the Power Guy wears them down... OR A young upcoming Shut down corner to help our defense that it has not had since Rod Woodson days....
The Running game would help us a whole lot and it would keep the ball out of the other teams possession thus helping our defense but our Secondary needs help very badly right now and this corner would help imensely...
So, which will it be guys/gals... lets hear your opinions...
I GO RB on my choice... But I am not sure who this would be...:coffee: :wave:




Our secondary is by far our greatest area of concern. (especially at Corner)
But with that said,.......i don't believe any of this year's class of corners merit a top 15 pick.
(Though i like Leon Hall )
As i've stated before,.... the best DB happens to be F/S Laron Landry (LSU). And though i like Smith's potential,....i wouldn't pass on a talent like Landry. (Especially in light of the fact that we lack so much playmaking ability in our secondary)
We could then maybe pick up Cb Terrell Brown (Texas) early in the second round. In regards to a power compliment to Willie,....i think Michael Bush would be a good look. (But theres no way he'd still be on the boards after the second round)
Perhaps we could give Rb Tony Hunt (Penn State) a look either in the 6th or 7th ?
After going O-line and Lb (possible "tweeners") in the 3rd through 5th rnds.


Oh yeah,....your "sleeper" Wr could be Marcus Monk (Arkansas) 6'6 217lbs



"Hail Caesar,.......HAIL THE BLACK AND GOLD"

Preacher
12-25-2006, 09:23 PM
Our secondary is by far our greatest area of concern. (especially at Corner)
But with that said,.......i don't believe any of this year's class of corners merit a top 15 pick.
(Though i like Leon Hall )
As i've stated before,.... the best DB happens to be F/S Laron Landry (LSU). And though i like Smith's potential,....i wouldn't pass on a talent like Landry. (Especially in light of the fact that we lack so much playmaking ability in our secondary)
We could then maybe pick up Cb Terrell Brown (Texas) early in the second round. In regards to a power compliment to Willie,....i think Michael Bush would be a good look. (But theres no way he'd still be on the boards after the second round)
Perhaps we could give Rb Tony Hunt (Penn State) a look either in the 6th or 7th ?
After going O-line and Lb (possible "tweeners") in the 3rd through 5th rnds.


Oh yeah,....your "sleeper" Wr could be Marcus Monk (Arkansas) 6'6 217lbs

"Hail Caesar,.......HAIL THE BLACK AND GOLD"


WOW.... That would be great.

Elvis
01-02-2007, 09:06 AM
Here's a name for ya to chew on... a sleeper that could be a middle round pick for the Steelers ... he is a TD machine
RB Germaine Race Pittsburg St.
'04 stats
2,213 yards 26 td's
'05
1,846 yds. 33 td's
Has anyone got to see this guy play ball?:wave:

skidboot
01-02-2007, 05:49 PM
anyone else see us taking a TE?



I can see it.


Big time Blocking TE!!!

Elvis
01-02-2007, 05:50 PM
Maybe late in the draft, but not early:wave:

skidboot
01-02-2007, 05:57 PM
we could use one IMO. Tuman as our #2 and no #3??? we used to have 4 of them didn't we?


Matt Cushing/TE/FB/LS....


Having that big time blocker at TE also keeps #7 upright and improves the running game.

We tried last year with Charles Davis out of Purdue but he was too much of a *****. Looked the part!...but......

Elvis
01-09-2007, 07:12 PM
I believe that a top notch punter is more important right now than a TE... we cant spend a top 3 pick on a TE since we just drafted one year before last no.1... not gonna happen:wave:

skidboot
01-13-2007, 12:03 PM
I believe that a top notch punter is more important right now than a TE... we cant spend a top 3 pick on a TE since we just drafted one year before last no.1... not gonna happen:wave:




why not?

I seen the Patriots draft Daniel Graham and then select Ben Watson in the first round.


BTW I'm more into us getting a big time blocking TE. Miller can be used as our "receiving TE".

Day 2 pick.

Elvis
01-13-2007, 05:24 PM
:coffee: I just really dont believe the Steelers will pick one that early... a big OL or DL or LB is more important and at DB as well should be very high on the list of needs.. just my opinion guys/gals dont take me the wrong way please...:tt02: :tt02: :tt02: :wave: