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coachspeak33
12-06-2006, 11:32 AM
Orien Harris....4th rd.....DT
Omar Jacobs.....5th rd.... QB
Charles Davis....5th rd.... TE
Ced Humes.....7th rd....RB
Fred Gibson....4th rd....WR
Nat Adibi....5th rd....LB
Bo Lacy....6th rd....OL
Drew Caylor...6th rd...OL
Eric Taylor....7th rd...DT


Here are guys who the Steelers have drafted in the last 3 drafts that have not made it out of camp.... (Harris was resigned to the practice squad after camp but has yet to play at all)

This topic is typically one that the Steeler nation tends to get a llittle testy about...nobody is allowed to question the Steelers drafting methods.... cause ya know what..... back in 74 we drafted 5 HOFers...

Chuck Noll is gone people.... management would have to put a port-o-jon in the war room if he were around, cause chuck is so old now that he probably has to take a piss every 15 minutes these days

This list is not a resume builder for Colbert.... is Colbert terrible??? No. Is he perfect and beyond reproach??? Of course not.

Interestting to note that most of us feel that OL, LB, and RB are positions of need right now for us..... you see a lot of those on this list..... maybe there is a connection.

OneForTheToe
12-06-2006, 12:04 PM
Actually, what I see is a bunch of 5th thru 7th rounder's that should have trouble making a team that goes 15 - 1 one year, and then to the Super Bowl the next.

Yes, you are correct Colbert is not terrible (not perfect either, but better than most). In addition, Chuck Noll is old by the definition of age (as well as one of the greatest of all time). Also, he probably does pee frequently whether the present Steelers are 11-5 or 5-11. :wink02:

No fear though, there is salvation.......We all know J. K. will be in charge of drafting this year. :banana:

stlrtruck
12-06-2006, 12:25 PM
I have to agree. Once you get into the late rounds, it's very difficult to find individuals that can make an impact on an already talented team. IMHO, the loses this year are not due to the lack of talent but instead, the lack of execution.
Maybe they could have drafted better in the earlier rounds but sometimes, the people you're wanting aren't there and a greater opportunity presents itself for a different player.

SteelerMurf
12-06-2006, 12:27 PM
There are a lot of 5's, 6's and 7's in that list. A lot of rookies don't make the team. Although there's definitely room for improvement.

ditto

coachspeak33
12-06-2006, 12:41 PM
the steelers used to really make some hay in those late rounds.... that hasnt happened in a while...

i was just pointing out that cowher refuses to run some of these older veterans out and now we are left with aging backups....

the logans, carters, kriewaldts, and barrett brooks' of the world are not gonna solve any of our problems....

and cowher plays those guys instead of tony smith or kemo....who other than the KC game has rotted away on the pine for two years.....

and there are people on here that want him to start next year!!!!!!!!

start? cowher wont play him in back to back series, let alone back to back weeks

Dook
12-06-2006, 01:26 PM
Were you expecting Hall of Famers from the 5th, 6th, and 7th round?

You can question anything you like but show me your Pre-2006 draft so I can pick it apart. Is your 7th pick making the Pro Bowl this year?

Those old veterans brought home a nice trophy last year.

coachspeak33
12-06-2006, 01:52 PM
now who is using hindsight to lead their argument????

any ways..... go steelers.... kill the brownies.

Atlanta Dan
12-06-2006, 02:06 PM
the steelers used to really make some hay in those late rounds.... that hasnt happened in a while...

i was just pointing out that cowher refuses to run some of these older veterans out and now we are left with aging backups....

the logans, carters, kriewaldts, and barrett brooks' of the world are not gonna solve any of our problems....

and cowher plays those guys instead of tony smith or kemo....who other than the KC game has rotted away on the pine for two years.....

and there are people on here that want him to start next year!!!!!!!!

start? cowher wont play him in back to back series, let alone back to back weeks

Names and rounds in which hay was made?

Dook
12-06-2006, 02:10 PM
Why shouldn't I be able to use hindsight, that's what you are doing.

Why don't you go out on a limb and tell us all exactly what moves the team should make now and in the future?

Livinginthe past
12-06-2006, 02:12 PM
I have a handy set of links to Steelers draft picks in the relatively recent past.

http://www.steelertribute.com/DRAFT06.HTM

http://www.steelertribute.com/DRAFT05.HTM

http://www.steelertribute.com/DRAFT04.HTM

http://www.steelertribute.com/DRAFT03.HTM

http://www.steelertribute.com/DRAFT02.HTM

http://www.steelertribute.com/DRAFT01.HTM

http://www.steelertribute.com/DRAFT00.HTM

http://www.steelertribute.com/DRAFT99.HTM

http://www.steelertribute.com/DRAFT98.HTM

1998 is as far back as this resource goes, but im sure info from earlier drafts is available easily enough.

NM

fansince'76
12-06-2006, 02:37 PM
This topic is typically one that the Steeler nation tends to get a llittle testy about...nobody is allowed to question the Steelers drafting methods.... cause ya know what..... back in 74 we drafted 5 HOFers...

The draft is a crapshoot, period. Playing Monday morning QB about a team's draft picks after the fact doesn't serve much purpose, I don't think.

tony hipchest
12-06-2006, 04:37 PM
i think a few thigs have hurt us drafting in the past few years. drafting for need or projected need 3 years in the future rather than the best player on the board, and the linebackers for the 3-4 that we used to be able to get in rounds 4-5 are now going in rounds 1-3.

BigDuke6
12-06-2006, 06:41 PM
The Draft is a crapshoot. Scout em, pick em, sign em, coach em up. All in all I think the Steelers do pretty well. We have never had the luxury to rely on big $$ FAs so the draft is our prime source of acquisition. That being said, our relative success over the past years is indicative of a fairly successful draft record. I have looked back the past 20 years to 1987.
Here's one way to look at it.
Year Total picks Starters All-Pros
1987 12 4 3
1988 12 1 1
1989 12 3 1
1990 12 4 2
1991 12 3 0
1992 12 4 3
1993 12 5 1
1994 10 4 1
1995 10 5 1
1996 9 4 1
1997 8 3 1
1998 10 5 1
1999 11 6 2
2000 9 5 2
2001 7 4 2
2002 8 6 0
2003 5 2 1
2004 8 3 0
2005 8 3 0
2006 9 3 0
Total 196 81 25
Starters are guys who went on to start for the Steelers in some capacity. All-Pros are guys who went to Hawaii at some point in their careers.
You guys can work out the % and add your own $0.02 as to whether this is an enviable record or not. But I think it points to a pretty decent hit/miss ratio.
I think overall the org has done well.

Preacher
12-06-2006, 06:45 PM
Hmmm.. what gets me is that not ONE 1,2,3 pick is missing from the original list. THAT IS A GOOD RECORD. Furthermore.. look at our first round picks... We have done pretty dang good.

Haiku_Dirtt
12-07-2006, 08:58 AM
Names and rounds in which hay was made?

:thumbsup: Can we live on Mars yet?