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clevestinks
12-09-2006, 05:16 PM
If you could pick up any player in the league to help us out, who would it be?

I say we need a great corner, I like Mathis of the jaguars.

This is just for fun, the player doesnt have to be a free agent this coming year. I`m just trying to see what everyone else feels OUR NEEDS ARE.

PisnNapalm
12-09-2006, 05:20 PM
The running back from the Giants... Jacobs. I watched him run earlier this season and really liked what I saw. He would definitely compliment Parker.

In Cowher We Trust
12-09-2006, 05:20 PM
Maybe Tom Brady or Champ Bailey.

tony hipchest
12-09-2006, 05:21 PM
julius peppers.

but if we didnt have fwp and our great linebackers id like LT and brian urlacher.

i like mathis too. the steelers liked him coming out of college and possibly woulda drafted him if the jagoffs didnt beat them to the punch

NV STEELERS 723
12-09-2006, 05:30 PM
Brian Urlacher....he's a Lambert throw back...he's just a great football player!

Steelers
12-09-2006, 05:30 PM
Fitzgerald or Akers, lol.

Black@Gold Forever32
12-09-2006, 05:34 PM
I would say Walter Jones the LT from the Seahawks. This would allow the Steelers to move Marvel Smith back to RT which he is better suited. Plus the tandom of Jones and Faneca would make the best OT/OG combo in the game.

I would also consider Richard Seymour from the Pats for the Dline. Seymour would be a perfect DE for the Steelers 3-4 defense. Plus imagine Big Casey Hampton and Seymour along side each other on the Steelers Dline.

SwedishSteeler
12-09-2006, 05:35 PM
Maybe Tom Brady or Champ Bailey.


you want a new qb? why?

SteelerCuse
12-09-2006, 05:45 PM
If we played a 4-3 it would be Julius Peppers in a heartbeat. However, I dont think a DE is as important in a 3-4. I would take an OLB or a NG, and to fill those positions I would take Shawn Merriman (as long as he can stay off the juice) or Casey Hampton, who we already have :thumbsup:

MACH1
12-09-2006, 05:49 PM
LT both him and Willie in the backfield.

Blitzburgh
12-09-2006, 06:12 PM
Shawn Merriman or Adalias Thomas


either would be HUGE ...

Stlrs4Life
12-09-2006, 07:00 PM
The best OLman in the league, don't care who it is.

Dook
12-09-2006, 07:17 PM
RB Reggie Bush of the Saints.

Plays as a WR most of the time and can run back returns as well. A young player who has many years and many pro bowls ahead of him.

clevestinks
12-09-2006, 09:53 PM
you want a new qb? why?

I agree! Why? I`m sticking with Ben!

HometownGal
12-09-2006, 10:18 PM
Shawn Merriman and/or Steve Hutchinson. Hutchinson is a beast and could push King Kong back across that line. :thumbsup:

Need4spd
12-09-2006, 11:37 PM
I gotta say, a lot of these are pretty lousy answers. The Steelers are not in need of a quarterback, or linebackers, or defensive linemen. Are there other better players in the league than what the Steelers currently have at any of those particular positions? Perhaps, but our needs are not at those positions. Plus, Rashean Mathis, Brandon Jacobs? Mathis is a good CB, especially when playing against the Steelers, and Jacobs is a nice compliment to Tiki, but he's not even the best RB on his own team.

I'll take Champ Bailey. He's capable of taking away an entire side of the field for an opposing offense. There are very few true "shut-down" corners in the league, and he is at the very top of the list. Fact is, this team isn't 6-7 due to a lack of talent. For the last several years the Steelers one glaring weakness has been in the defensive secondary, and they've still had a pretty nasty defense during those years. You put Champ on this team and that would be a very formidable defense.

Brian Urlacher, Walter Jones, those are also good answers. I know I said that LB is not an area of need for the Steelers, and it's not, but Urlacher is the real deal. I like the comment about him being a "throwback" type of player, which he is.

Walter Jones is the best offensive linemen in football, period. In part because LT is such a difficult position to play. You take Faneca, or Steve Hutchinson who are both fantastic offensive linemen in their own right, potential HOF candidates even, but Guard is frankly just an easier position to play. At the Tackle position, especially LT which is the blind side for most QB's, you're basically on an island going up against the best, and fastest DE's/OLB's in the NFL. Walter Jones is down right dominant at that position.

By the way, great topic! :thumbsup:

Stillers#1
12-10-2006, 12:25 AM
Shawn Merriman and/or Steve Hutchinson. Hutchinson is a beast and could push King Kong back across that line. :thumbsup:

BLASPHEMER!!!!! We already have the best LG in the NFL.

Oh btw I say Chris Hope.

MJ5150
12-10-2006, 01:42 AM
I have a few...Cato June. Tommie Harris, or even Julian Peterson.

When forced to pick one, I'll take Champ Bailey. I am so tired of seeing our CB's getting beat this year.

-Mike

SteelPerch
12-10-2006, 07:20 AM
I'll give a few options at each key position:

DL - Richard Seymour - DE that can rush the passer & stuff run, best 3-4 DE by a mile
LB - Shawn Merriman - beast of a pass rusher, put him opposite Porter and turn him loose
OL - Steve Hutchison - replaces Simmons sorry ass
WR - Torry Holt - deep threat, great routes & hands, compliments Ward well, character guy
CB - Champ Bailey - the best CB in the game, would help out a weak spot
ST's - Devin Hester - dude is instant points
K - anybody that can kick a friggen ball into the endzone on kickoffs :dang:

Those 6 guys would cure what ails ya!

SCSTILLER
12-10-2006, 07:30 AM
Probably get some flack for this, but I would love to see Steven Jackson, RB, Rams in a Steelers jersey. I wanted Pittsburgh to draft him out of college, but we didn't. He has the speed, he has the power, and he can catch coming out of the backfield. Think he would be great in the Steelers offense.

polamalufan43
12-10-2006, 08:36 AM
Well, I think Champ Bailey would be nice. And drafting Chris Hope back wouldn't hurt either.

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

Blitzburgh
12-10-2006, 11:14 AM
I gotta say, a lot of these are pretty lousy answers. The Steelers are not in need of a quarterback, or linebackers, or defensive linemen. Are there other better players in the league than what the Steelers currently have at any of those particular positions? Perhaps, but our needs are not at those positions. Plus, Rashean Mathis, Brandon Jacobs? Mathis is a good CB, especially when playing against the Steelers, and Jacobs is a nice compliment to Tiki, but he's not even the best RB on his own team.

I'll take Champ Bailey. He's capable of taking away an entire side of the field for an opposing offense. There are very few true "shut-down" corners in the league, and he is at the very top of the list. Fact is, this team isn't 6-7 due to a lack of talent. For the last several years the Steelers one glaring weakness has been in the defensive secondary, and they've still had a pretty nasty defense during those years. You put Champ on this team and that would be a very formidable defense.

Brian Urlacher, Walter Jones, those are also good answers. I know I said that LB is not an area of need for the Steelers, and it's not, but Urlacher is the real deal. I like the comment about him being a "throwback" type of player, which he is.

Walter Jones is the best offensive linemen in football, period. In part because LT is such a difficult position to play. You take Faneca, or Steve Hutchinson who are both fantastic offensive linemen in their own right, potential HOF candidates even, but Guard is frankly just an easier position to play. At the Tackle position, especially LT which is the blind side for most QB's, you're basically on an island going up against the best, and fastest DE's/OLB's in the NFL. Walter Jones is down right dominant at that position.

By the way, great topic! :thumbsup:


Are you sniffing the junk? .... Steelers aren't in need of LB's or D-lineman? .... Really?

I guess this is why the Steelers paniced this year and ran out to get Chad Brown who was busy scratching his nads while on the couch watching Deal or No Deal! Weather you want to believe it or not, we're thin at LB and the ones that we currently have that are solid (not exceptional) are getting older and won't perform at the same level much longer. We should have been grooming our younger talent the past 2 years more than we have been. I find it funny that you said we don't need LB's yet one of your answers was Brian "I got trucked by the Bus" Urlacher, who also sucks by the way in pass coverage. He'd be Brian Average in a 3-4 defensive scheme :coffee:

As far as the D-line is concerned Hampton is the only one that deserves to be overlooked when talking about upgrading the line. I love Keisel, but I don't love him as a starter. His motor and his size was made for being a special teams deamon and a 3rd down D-line pass rushing specialist. I don't consider Aaron Smith's 2 great games out of a 16 game season anything to write home about. Smith has, for the most part, played like a lithargic fat ass this year, a monday morning check casher if you will. I think the Steelers absolutely need to be looking for his replacement ... at the very least bring in someone that will give him a run for his starting job. Perhaps he'll play motivated again.


You make Champ Bailey sound like some superhero. Let's talk about the games he gets absolutely OWNED and there are plenty of them to talk about. For every great game Champ puts together, he has 2 mediocre ones and 1 really bad one. I'm sure every Denver fan thought Champ was worth the money when he got his ass handed to him in last years AFC Championship Game when it was all on the line. :helmet:

BlacknGold76
12-10-2006, 11:23 AM
If I had to pick a player that I think would work into the Offensive scheme for the Steelers I would pick Mike Alstott who currently plays with Tampa Bay. My other pick would be Tony Richardson who plays with the Vikings and used to play for the Chiefs.:computer:

Dook
12-10-2006, 11:27 AM
It's not our DL's, it's our system this year.

Teams are going to short quick pass plays because our DB's play 15 yards off the line. The reason our DB's give that 15 yard cushion is because we send Troy up to the line to blitz or fake the blitz. The QB simply has to pick the man on man coverage which is always Ike Taylor's man.

No wonder Ike looks bad. What other CB plays man to man coverage every game? Champ Bailey? Sure but no way we are getting him away from Denver.

kyflash15
12-10-2006, 11:35 AM
rb- larry johnson
wr- steve smith
def- champ bailey

anyone of those would be great

Infamix
12-10-2006, 11:48 AM
I'd have to go with Champ Bailey or Brandon Jacobs.

clevestinks
12-10-2006, 01:33 PM
Lots of great picks, but which are needs, and which are just wanst?

I do think we need corners.

Hines0wnz
12-10-2006, 02:10 PM
Probably get some flack for this, but I would love to see Steven Jackson, RB, Rams in a Steelers jersey. I wanted Pittsburgh to draft him out of college, but we didn't. He has the speed, he has the power, and he can catch coming out of the backfield. Think he would be great in the Steelers offense.

SJ and WP have very similar stats over their 3 year careers. The one difference is receiving and that is because the Rams run a pass-friendly offense and the Steelers do not. If SJ were to join the Steelers (assuming the O scheme stays the same) then his catches would fall. Willie can catch too but the offense doesnt have him, or any RB for that matter, as a primary receiver. Steeler RBs are genuinely saftey valve type receivers.

Hines0wnz
12-10-2006, 02:15 PM
It's not our DL's, it's our system this year.

Teams are going to short quick pass plays because our DB's play 15 yards off the line. The reason our DB's give that 15 yard cushion is because we send Troy up to the line to blitz or fake the blitz. The QB simply has to pick the man on man coverage which is always Ike Taylor's man.

No wonder Ike looks bad. What other CB plays man to man coverage every game? Champ Bailey? Sure but no way we are getting him away from Denver.

I agree, the secondary has been the achille's heel of the Steelers since Cowher has been the HC. Every team knows this and they try to expose it all the time. A good CB should be the primary goal for next season with LB and O-line upgrades a very close second. All this talk about Brandon Jacobs, Alstott, etc. is beyond ridiculous.

Black@Gold Forever32
12-10-2006, 02:23 PM
I agree, the secondary has been the achille's heel of the Steelers since Cowher has been the HC. Every team knows this and they try to expose it all the time. A good CB should be the primary goal for next season with LB and O-line upgrades a very close second. All this talk about Brandon Jacobs, Alstott, etc. is beyond ridiculous.

Yea the secondary blew bigtime with the likes of Rod Woodson, Carnell Lake and Darren Perry back in the early to mid 1990's. So maybe you should have worded it that the Steelers secondary has been the achille's heel since those guys left.

Hines0wnz
12-10-2006, 02:55 PM
Yea the secondary blew bigtime with the likes of Rod Woodson, Carnell Lake and Darren Perry back in the early to mid 1990's. So maybe you should have worded it that the Steelers secondary has been the achille's heel since those guys left.

Touche. :goof:

I was looking back and saw that the secondary started falling off when Chad Scott was drafted.

MJ5150
12-10-2006, 10:02 PM
You make Champ Bailey sound like some superhero.

On the Steelers right now, he would be. No CB on our current roster would start over him.

-Mike

PalmerSteel
12-10-2006, 10:15 PM
as good as fast willie is, it would have to be LT. the guy makes yards when nothing is there all the time.

MJ5150
12-11-2006, 01:41 AM
I don't know if it is a good idea for some of you guys to be busting on people who make suggestions you disagree with.

This is just for fun, and totally subjective to what each of us pay the most attention to when we are watching the game. Like the guy who suggested the FB, that position is probably a big deal to him.

It's all good brothers and sisters. Let's all share our thoughts and dream about it. :tt02:

-Mike

Haiku_Dirtt
12-11-2006, 01:55 AM
julius peppers.

but if we didnt have fwp and our great linebackers id like LT and brian urlacher.

i like mathis too. the steelers liked him coming out of college and possibly woulda drafted him if the jagoffs didnt beat them to the punch

I really hate to disagree with you Tony but...

Lofa Tatupu is by far the younger and more complete LB.

Haiku_Dirtt
12-11-2006, 02:19 AM
I would say Walter Jones the LT from the Seahawks. This would allow the Steelers to move Marvel Smith back to RT which he is better suited. Plus the tandom of Jones and Faneca would make the best OT/OG combo in the game.

I would also consider Richard Seymour from the Pats for the Dline. Seymour would be a perfect DE for the Steelers 3-4 defense. Plus imagine Big Casey Hampton and Seymour along side each other on the Steelers Dline.

For sure Bro.

Moving Marvel to the right...:jawdrop:

I'm a little puzzled with the shakeup of the dline though. Keisel is a work in progress but he's self-motivated (gotta love those Mormons - especially really big fast ones). He'll come around (I think). And Smith and Hampton are surely well-suited.

It's a gas that the 'shut down' corner debate co-mingled in the same sentence with Ike Taylor garnished so much conversation this off season. This is one player - self-promoter - who should spend some time looking in the mirror. That half-ass crap better end this season.

Cowher will stay. This is the first issue we need to resolve before we even speculate roster wet-dream additions.

Black@Gold Forever32
12-11-2006, 09:42 AM
For sure Bro.

Moving Marvel to the right...:jawdrop:

I'm a little puzzled with the shakeup of the dline though. Keisel is a work in progress but he's self-motivated (gotta love those Mormons - especially really big fast ones). He'll come around (I think). And Smith and Hampton are surely well-suited.

It's a gas that the 'shut down' corner debate co-mingled in the same sentence with Ike Taylor garnished so much conversation this off season. This is one player - self-promoter - who should spend some time looking in the mirror. That half-ass crap better end this season.

Cowher will stay. This is the first issue we need to resolve before we even speculate roster wet-dream additions.

Just imagine having Seymour starting alongside Casey Hampton. Yes Aaron Smith is really good DE for the 3-4 and I like Keisel alot also. But with Seymour also you could rotate Keisel in there. Like the Steelers do anyway with their Dline. So I don't have no problems with the Steelers current Dline. I just think a player like Seymour could take this unit and the Steelers defense to the next level.

MJ5150
12-11-2006, 10:14 AM
So I don't have no problems with the Steelers current Dline. I just think a player like Seymour could take this unit and the Steelers defense to the next level.

So true. That would be a great move.

I would liken it to the Seahawks picking up Deion Branch earlier this year. The WR's were fine, but nothing wrong with adding a top notch player to the group.

-Mike

Stillers43
12-11-2006, 04:47 PM
LT if you want the best player
W. Jones to help the O-line
C. Bailey to send Taylor to Nickle D OR
Merriman if you want a stud LB opposite of Porter

But hell, I'll roll with what we got maybe just bring Bettis back!

sumo
12-11-2006, 04:59 PM
I really hate to disagree with you Tony but...

Lofa Tatupu is by far the younger and more complete LB.

I think Urlacher is the best middle lb in the game - Tatupu is great getting to the edges, covering screens etc - but on running plays between the tackles - he struggles big time ... Urlacher and Bailey on Defense - Walter Jones at LT would be sweet -I would also like a compliment to Ward at wideout - somebody like Anquon Boldin or Larry Fitzgerald from the Cards - both guys are used to playing along side another big time reciever and kick a**.