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clevestinks
08-06-2005, 06:50 AM
I was thinking , " Should we consider trading Hines Ward"? I'm on the fence here. I love Hines,but we are to close to a ring to not have a great reciever on this team. I don't want to trade, but I don't want to jeopardize our future either. We can get a damn good receiver for alot less money. I'm not sure, I just wanted to know your opinions. I haven't been around so I'm not sure if this has been brought up.

SteelerSal
08-06-2005, 08:25 AM
Well I'm not for it,but if we did we could get a whole lot for him(depth)at the reciever and o-line positions.
But this is stupid to even think that we would,SHAME ON US!!!! :chair:

SteelR1
08-06-2005, 08:37 AM
Both sides should stop being so damn stubborn and come to an agreement. Offer the man a contract he's worth (you did promise him one), Sign it and lets play some FOOTBALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Prosdo
08-06-2005, 11:53 AM
I wouldn't be for trading him. Hines needs to get in camp so the negotations can start. Let's get this deal done!

ironcitychef
08-06-2005, 08:02 PM
Its amazing but as each day passes I am leaning more and more for a youth movement. So its up to the veterans to show they want to be here.

LambertIsGod58
08-06-2005, 08:45 PM
As much as I love Hines, I think the money he was offered is fair. We could fill his spot for that amount or less without missing a beat.

BlitzburghRockCity
08-07-2005, 01:21 AM
No way, no way do we trade him. If he holds out past October, we get him for another year yet. He knows this, he'll be in camp or on the field this year, there's almost no doubt in my mind. His agent won't let him stay out the whole year and then lose that year of eligibility. There's too much of a payoff at stake. Plus we still have time to resign him after the 2005 season before he would hit the market.

I'd fall over if we actually entertained any trade rumors.

clevestinks
08-08-2005, 06:05 AM
No way, no way do we trade him. If he holds out past October, we get him for another year yet. He knows this, he'll be in camp or on the field this year, there's almost no doubt in my mind. His agent won't let him stay out the whole year and then lose that year of eligibility. There's too much of a payoff at stake. Plus we still have time to resign him after the 2005 season before he would hit the market.

I'd fall over if we actually entertained any trade rumors.

I understand what your saying Blitz, BUT, We are coming off a 15-1 season, we need him this year. We need somebody this year. Ben is going into his second year, we already let Plax go, Duce is hurting, Bus is older, We need someone now. Hines is becoming more and more selfish everyday, because he knows that we need a reciever so bad.

bigbensgirl7
08-08-2005, 09:18 AM
I understand what your saying Blitz, BUT, We are coming off a 15-1 season, we need him this year. We need somebody this year. Ben is going into his second year, we already let Plax go, Duce is hurting, Bus is older, We need someone now. Hines is becoming more and more selfish everyday, because he knows that we need a reciever so bad.
I couldn't agree more Cleve. This whole situation is really starting to piss me off, and if we want to come out strong we need either Hines back on the field and practicing now, or we need a replacement for him. I always said I couldn't imagine Ward on any other team and that he was a true Pittsburgh guy, but my opinion is changing every day he misses camp. It's getting old and the Steelers are not going to budge so wither he reports soon or start looking for a trade.
Cleve...if a trade is the next move, who would you like us to get???

Man of Steel
08-08-2005, 10:33 AM
Trade Hines Ward...No, I don't like the sound of that. While I'm sure we could get one or two good players and maybe a draft pick, if we want to win the Super Bowl, I think we need Hines in the fold. Without Hines, I still think we can make the playoffs, without him, I don't know if the recieving corps is good enough to win in Detriot in January. It's all about this year in the Burgh.

I've heard alot on this topic as I'm sure everyone in western PA has, but I'm still on the fence. It sounds strange, but I have to agree with both sides, with Hines AND with management. Hines is a 4-time Pro Bowler entering his prime, with a strong work ethic and incredible tenacity. He wants, and deserves in my opinion, money relative to the numbers of the best WRs in the game, which he is among, no doubt. Being the 37th highest paid reciever in the game isn't gonna cut it anymore. Now, I don't think the Steelers should break the bank, but I do think they should pay the man for his services somewhere in the neighborhood of, say, Javon Walker's, Chad Johnson's, Torry Holt's numbers. Not T.O's or Randy's, but you get the idea.

But then, even Hines isn't bigger than the Steelers. It sucks, but the Steelers policy is that they simply won't negotiate with you unless you are in camp (Maddox situation aside). That is, and always has been their policy; Hines has to have known this. The Rooneys are in charge, and the people in charge make the rules. If you want to play, you have to play by the rules, whether you agree with them or not.

I really hope Hines reconsiders, which I think he will, and report to camp, spend a few days up there and finally reach a fair deal for everyone involved. I'd hate to see him miss the whole preseason and be a question mark coming into what was supposed to be a Super Bowl run-type season.

The silver lining in this dark cloud that I really haven't heard about is all the reps the OTHER Steeler WRs are recieving. Anyone remember Zamir Cobb last year? This is a chance for him to get off the practice squad and make the opening day squad. Wilson seems to be better than most were expecting, and Randle El is seeing what being a #1 is like. Mays, Morey, and Gibson should all be getting good experiences and more attention from coaches and QBs. There are no Pro Bowlers without Hines, but this group has TONS of potential and should be hungry to make a name for themselves.

rowedf
08-08-2005, 01:08 PM
The Steelers front office took all the drama out of this, its only the media and us fans that have anything to really debate about anymore. The only one that can change the status of the situation is Hines Ward, until he comes into camp, there is nothing that will happen. A trade is out of the question, the steelers just don't do that, just like they won't negotiate with someone not in camp.

I do feel for both sides on this matter. Hines is a great reciever in OUR system. Would he do as well in Indy, Oakland, St. Lous?....it's hard to say. He does what the STEELERS ask of him. Just like Harrion, Holt, and Moss do, but its completely different. Those receivers are getting their contracts based on TD's, stretching the field, making the big plays. Although Hines does do that, to an extent, catching a 75 yard TD and snagging a 7 yard pass and fighting for 3 yards to get a first just isn't viewed as the same. He blocks like no other reciever in the league, but does that warrant the same as being able to stretch the field ala Holt, Moss, Owens, etc ?? I feel what the Steelers offered was FAIR for what they ask him to do and for how well he does it.

I think Hines showed his hand way to early to get the deal he wants....as soon as he reports, which he will beccause he has to play one more season, he gives up all his bargaining tools, while loosing some of the respect he has at the front office. I really wish he would have just reported, carried on business as normal, and worked out the deal that way. As it stands now, I don't see both sides being a winner. Either A) he'll reluctantly sign a deal that he feels is not fair or B) he'll play his season out and test the FA market.

clevestinks
08-08-2005, 04:33 PM
His respect from the fans is dropping daily. It won`t take long to gt it back. But we need him now. Or somebody.

BlitzburghRockCity
08-08-2005, 08:41 PM
I can see your point of view cleve, and trust me Im as pissed off as you are, but there is nobody out there that we could entertain a decent trade value for as a WR. As far as running backs go. between haynes, bettis, staley, and parker, we're pretty decent so far, and hopefully atleast 1 of them is bound to stay healthy * knock on wood*