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Big D
01-27-2007, 04:44 PM
CINCINNATI (AP) -- The Cincinnati Bengals, wracked by the arrests of several players over the last year, will look more closely at the backgrounds of the players they draft, team president Mike Brown said.

Brown told The Cincinnati Enquirer for a story published Saturday that the team would change its approach on draft day.

"There may be some gifted athletes we won't pick that we might have picked a year ago," Brown told the newspaper.

A Kenton County (Ky.) judge sentenced Bengals receiver Chris Henry on Thursday to two days in jail after he pleaded guilty to letting minors drink in a hotel room he rented last spring. He drew a two-game suspension last season for violating the league's conduct and substance abuse policies, and could get a harsher punishment for his latest conviction.

Henry has become the symbol of Cincinnati's extensive off-field problems -- nine players arrested in the last nine months, two of them suspended by the league during the season. Henry had four arrests in the last 14 months.

He avoided jail time in the first three cases, but was taken to the Kenton County Jail after a judge accepted his guilty plea.

Henry's sentencing came three days after cornerback Johnathan Joseph, the team's No. 1 draft pick in 2006, was arrested in Boone County on a charge of marijuana possession.

District Judge Greg Grothaus told Henry, "You embarrassed a lot of people: teammates, friends and family, the city, the fans and myself."

Brown said Henry deserved to be scolded.

"It did not displease me that the judge did that. We're trying to do the same thing with Chris, to send a message to other players," Brown said.

Brown also said the league and players union limit team discipline.

"There's only so much we can do in these situations," Brown said. "We can't act as forcefully as we did in the past. ... Our hands are tied. We can't fine, sanction or fire a player."

Lewis can discipline players if they show "conduct detrimental to club," as written in the league's collective bargaining agreement with the players union.

Teams can suspend a player up to four weeks but no longer, according to the agreement. A team or coach also can fine a player one week's salary. Henry had a base salary of $310,000 in 2006, and each of his 17 weekly game checks was worth $18,235.

Lewis disciplined starting tailback Rudi Johnson and linebacker Odell Thurman in separate games in 2005. Lewis made the players sit out the first series for breaking undisclosed team rules. Lewis repeated the punishment for Johnson this past season, not starting him in the San Diego game.

Brown expects Henry to be back for a third season.

"I don't think it's wrong to give people a chance, and that includes Chris Henry," Brown said. "He has paid a real price for it in his personal life and for us, and I don't abandon hope for him at all."

Thurman is serving a one-year suspension for a third violation of the substance-abuse policy. Thurman and Henry are "broken records," Brown said.

"Everyone here is fed up with this, including Marvin and me, and we want it to stop," he said.

polamalufan43
01-27-2007, 04:49 PM
CINCINNATI (AP)
"Everyone here is fed up with this, including Marvin and me, and we want it to stop," he said.


But will it stop?
That's the million dollar question.
They made be fed up with that over there in Whodeyland, but we are a hilariously good time with it over here in the 'Burgh/Wedeyland/Steel City. :jammin:

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

Big D
01-27-2007, 04:51 PM
But will it stop?
That's the million dollar question.
They made be fed up with that over there in Whodeyland, but we are a hilariously good time with it over here in the 'Burgh/Wedeyland. :jammin:

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

[QUOTE=Big D;212135]CINCINNATI (AP) -- The Cincinnati Bengals, wracked by the arrests of several players over the last year, will look more closely at the backgrounds of the players they draft, team president Mike Brown said.
Most teams do very in depth backround checks as well as deep pshycology tests. For the bengals to sign and draft misfits like this just goes to show you that they care more about winning then charactor

polamalufan43
01-27-2007, 04:52 PM
[QUOTE=Big D;212135]CINCINNATI (AP) -- The Cincinnati Bengals, wracked by the arrests of several players over the last year, will look more closely at the backgrounds of the players they draft, team president Mike Brown said.
Most teams do very in depth backround checks as well as deep pshycology tests. For the bengals to sign and draft misfits like this just goes to show you that they care more about winning then charactor

:iagree:

I think they need to do better with the testing then

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

fansince'76
01-27-2007, 08:21 PM
But will it stop?
That's the million dollar question.

I think the following quote by Brown says it all:

"I don't think it's wrong to give people a chance, and that includes Chris Henry," Brown said. "He has paid a real price for it in his personal life and for us, and I don't abandon hope for him at all."

A chance? Seems to me this guy is on his FIFTH chance. Just more lip service, that's all it is.

floodcitygirl
01-28-2007, 09:06 AM
It's all just :blah: :blah: :blah:

And everybody knows it, including the sports talk radio hosts and the fans. In an informal survey they asked people to call in and answer if they thought the 2 days in jail had taught Henry a lesson and if they had confidence that he would not be in trouble again. In the 4 hour show there was not one person that believed it.

The thing is that as soon as they win a game or two and Henry plays well, all the irks that they have about him now will be a mute point.

IMO, Henry showed where he was at when he snuck out the side door of the jail to a waiting car instead of manning up, walking out the front door straight out to the mics and talking to the press and more importantly his fans. He should have told them that he knows that he screwed up and will purpose not to let it happen again.

It's just back to life as usual around here...

HometownGal
01-28-2007, 09:15 AM
Brown told The Cincinnati Enquirer for a story published Saturday that the team would change its approach on draft day.

"There may be some gifted athletes we won't pick that we might have picked a year ago," Brown told the newspaper.


Geez Louise Mike - it took you having 9 of your flock arrested to figure out that you, your organization and that team is a joke and the laughing stock of the NFL? :dang: :dang:

Mike Brown should be held accountable here as much as anyone else - he's the head honcho and should be overseeing everything that goes on in that organization.

Makes us appreciate the Rooneys even more, doesn't it? :tt02:

stillers4me
01-28-2007, 09:43 AM
Chris Henry has paid a high price.............GMAFB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This kid hasn't even begun to to pay for his crimes. He's got a slap on the wrist, a couple of nights in jai which he probably spent signing autographs from his groupies, and then snuck out the side door of the jail and the rest of the charges have all been dropped or ple bargained down to lesser charges so he can keep playing.

Actually, I find it all quite entertaining and would be extremely disappointed for it all to change...........but then that's just me........:flap:

stillers4me
01-28-2007, 10:35 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/sueincinci/henry.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/sueincinci/henry3.jpg

Love the pants.......is that puke I see on the side of that black SUV???
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/sueincinci/henry2.jpg

lamberts-lost-tooth
01-28-2007, 11:56 AM
CINCINNATI (AP) ....Lewis can discipline players if they show "conduct detrimental to club," as written in the league's collective bargaining agreement with the players union.

Teams can suspend a player up to four weeks but no longer, according to the agreement. A team or coach also can fine a player one week's salary. Henry had a base salary of $310,000 in 2006, and each of his 17 weekly game checks was worth $18,235.

Lewis disciplined starting tailback Rudi Johnson and linebacker Odell Thurman in separate games in 2005. Lewis made the players sit out the first series for breaking undisclosed team rules. Lewis repeated the punishment for Johnson this past season, not starting him in the San Diego game.

COULD have suspended for four weeks....but instead "punished" them by having them sit out the FIRST SERIES...that says it all...bottom line!!!

The players are 50% of the problem...Lewis is the other 50%

Godfather
01-28-2007, 08:03 PM
There's a typo in the subject line...you left out the apostrophe: Mike Brown is f'ed up.

But he's doing a heckuvajob.

stlrtruck
01-29-2007, 07:30 AM
You know it makes me think about a story I heard about good people being changed by bad people. You may draft good people but the virus in your locker room can change them.
Here's the story:

A preacher was standing on the platform and he asked a kid to try to pull him off the platform as he was going to try to pull him up. Now you'll have to imagine that being on the platform is "good" and being on the floor is "bad". And eventually, the kid would pull the preacher off the stage.

So draft a good player with a great character and pray that the viruses in your locker room don't pull him off the platform!

tony hipchest
02-05-2007, 12:56 PM
peter king informs us the bengals are still up to their old tricks:

c. Marvin Lewis, I'm told, quite reliably, that a few of your lads were in a place on South Beach called the Jersey Diner Friday morning around 5. Yes, Friday at 5 a.m.

Big D
02-05-2007, 01:26 PM
peter king informs us the bengals are still up to their old tricks:

could we expect anything less from the bengals?

SteelSquid
02-05-2007, 01:35 PM
One main reason that I am die hard fan of the Steelers is how the Rooney family approaches football. They believe in their players and will deal how harsh punishment when needed. A great team isn’t drafted nor do they have a bunch of high price free agents. A great team is developed. Before free agency, during the six years we won our first four super bowls, none of the players played for any other team. This also rings true for the team the won our fifth super bowl for us. Out of the 22 starters for Super Bowl 40, 17 of them were drafted and played only for the Steelers. What’s that tell you? There is no short cut in making a great team. And that is what we have in the Steelers a GREAT TEAM!

83-Steelers-43
02-05-2007, 03:36 PM
There's gotta be Vegas odds on which one of these guys are going to be arrested next....