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Livinginthe past
01-31-2007, 09:00 PM
Looks like Saban has bought into a whole new world of trouble.



Several readers have sent the audio clip to us, in which Saban relates a story that was shared with him by one of the members of the LSU Board of Trustees. He likely didn't realize that someone's tape recorder was rolling.

Here's the audio. Here's the raw transcript:

"My friends are okay with it. The rest of those guys? One of my, one of my guy on the board -- you guys won't be able to put this on the thing -- was walking down the street, one of the Board of Trustees guys like these people around here and sitting up on the stage today at LSU, is walking down the street yesterday before the Sugar Bowl. He calls me. There's a guy working in a ditch. One of those coon-ass guys that talk funny. I can't talk like him but he can. Most people in Louisiana can. And he says, 'Hey, you see where Coach Saban signed up with Alabama?' You know however they talk. And the Board of Trustees guy says, 'Yeah, I saw that.' And he says, 'That son of a bitch. I feel like he's f--king my wife.'"

We don't know where the audio originated, or who inserted sound effects to block the words "bitch" and "f--king." It appears that the comments were made on January 4, following Saban's introductory press conference at Alabama.

And though we don't know whether it's real or a forgery, if it's a forgery it's a damn convincing forgery.

With letter-of-intent day for Saban's first recruiting class at Alabama arriving one week from today, this is something that Saban needs to clear up ASAP.

(Meanwhile, that sound you hear in the distance is Miami Dolphins fans around the world laughing their asses off.)

With all that said, several readers have told us that "coon-ass" is not regarded in the South as a racial slur, though we'd never heard the term in any other context. But some regard it as a slur against Cajun folk. This sentiment is echoed in the Wikipedia definition of the term. Other readers are shocked that the term could be regarded as anything other than offensive.

We'd never heard the word before this morning, and we're shocked that the letters "coon" would be considered acceptable in any context other than following the letters "rac".

Either way, it wasn't a moment of genius for Saban, and he has given his NCAA rivals even more ammunition for targeting his recruits.

Interesting timing, what with all the fanfare over two black coaches making the SB for the first time.

NM

SteelCzar76
01-31-2007, 09:11 PM
Looks like Saban has bought into a whole new world of trouble.





Interesting timing, what with all the fanfare over two black coaches making the SB for the first time.

NM



Ahhhh yes,..... the wonders of divisive 'control' political agendas. (Chris Rock voice:) "Right on time,.....this train is never Late"! LOL

touchdownward
01-31-2007, 10:00 PM
Some cajuns find it offensive and some do not. I'm cajun and I'm of the percentage that it doesn't bother.
Some members of my family prefer you to call them a coonass rather than just cajun. :smile:

sumo
02-01-2007, 04:57 PM
COSMO KRAMER! - now he will come on the Letterman show and apologize..

Atlanta Dan
02-01-2007, 05:44 PM
I really think he is catching flack because coon is not only used as a derogatory term for Cajuns. Since Saban apparently was not using it in reference to another minority group with which that term is associated he probably will get a pass since slurring Cajuns is not going to stir as many folks up.

Further evidence Saban is someone I would not want coaching any team I support.

tony hipchest
02-01-2007, 05:45 PM
Looks like Saban has bought into a whole new world of trouble.

Interesting timing, what with all the fanfare over two black coaches making the SB for the first time.

NMi dont see what the trouble is. 1st of all, saban is a piece of shit that comes from the same "lack of class" tree as belichick, and as long as he is a winner (in the college ranks atleast), nothing else should matter, right?

i can imagine the reaction of pats supporters if belichick dropped the N-bomb. it would be swept under the rug because of his record.

"sure hes an *******, but hes a damn good coach and im glad hes MY teams coach. youre just jealous.".

saban apologists will react just the same. everyone else will see him for what he is despite the ring(s).

Livinginthe past
02-01-2007, 06:35 PM
I really think he is catching flack because coon is not only used as a derogatory term for Cajuns. Since Saban apparently was not using it in reference to another minority group with which that term is associated he probably will get a pass since slurring Cajuns is not going to stir as many folks up.

Further evidence Saban is someone I would not want coaching any team I support.

From what i've read it seems that he knows its a derogatory term, but that its ok for him to say it because he was 'only repeating someone elses words'.

Appaently its not language that he would use or condone.

He also said that it should be noted that the comments were made 'off the record'.

Go figure.

NM

Livinginthe past
02-01-2007, 06:37 PM
Some cajuns find it offensive and some do not. I'm cajun and I'm of the percentage that it doesn't bother.
Some members of my family prefer you to call them a coonass rather than just cajun. :smile:

Wow thats pretty interesting.

I think alot of people take an immediate dislike to the term because its so closely related to a derogatory term for a black person.

NM

polamalufan43
02-01-2007, 06:42 PM
Well, I honestly have never heard that term to refer to an African American. And I agree that this will be interesting with the two coaches in the SB.... hmmmmmm

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

Livinginthe past
02-01-2007, 07:07 PM
Well, I honestly have never heard that term to refer to an African American. And I agree that this will be interesting with the two coaches in the SB.... hmmmmmm

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

Not the whole word - just the first half of the term.

Personally, I think its always better to get this stuff out in the open rather than everyone pretend they dont have prejudices - its the only way to tackle it.

NM

Atlanta Dan
02-01-2007, 09:45 PM
Not the whole word - just the first half of the term.

Personally, I think its always better to get this stuff out in the open rather than everyone pretend they dont have prejudices - its the only way to tackle it.

NM

Yeah - just ask Joe Biden

tony hipchest
02-01-2007, 10:05 PM
Not the whole word - just the first half of the term.



NM

:confused: 1st half of the term? you mean co-on like a co-ed dorm or a run-on sentence?

the terms coon and coon-assed is about the same difference as calling someone a "punk bitch" or a "punk-assed bitch".

Livinginthe past
02-02-2007, 07:29 AM
Yeah - just ask Joe Biden

I just read a bit about his Indian-American comment relating to how they are always working in 7/11's.

Is that not the case?

I know over here in the UK, the vast majority of 7/11 establishments (we call them corner shops) are owned by people of an Asian extraction.

Still, its always dangerous for high profile politicians to make comments that seem racially insensitive or seem to stereotype.

NM

Livinginthe past
02-02-2007, 07:34 AM
Seems like a pretty commonly accepted term here in the south. It doesn't refer to African american people anyhow. Also think it is stupid to say part of the word he said was offensive.

to go on with this... Why is it people always say the N word? Is it completely wrong to say the word , even when you are discussing the issues the word brings up?

I'm not black and won't pretend to understand what some blacks have been through, but it would seem to me that just the vocalizing of the word, without the intent, would not be so horrible that our TV company bleep it and then go on to let B*tch, *ss and other words threw<sp>.

What do you think.


PS this is not meant to be an imflamitory can of worms, but a open discussion.

Thats a good question.

Personally, I dont find much need to use the term in general discussion but if it did arise I can't imagine using the term 'n-word' to describe what someone else had said - I would repeat it literally.

NM