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sheba
02-06-2007, 07:09 PM
bettis or sanders

4n2t0
02-06-2007, 08:00 PM
bettis or sanders

I love Bettis but...

10 Pro Bowls.
NFL MVP.
Two time Bert Bell winner.
Heisman Trophy.
Member of both the College and Pro football HOF's.
15269 yards, 5.0 yard average, 99 TD's.

Better numbers in less time, Barry by a country mile!

The only thing he didn't achieve was a Super Bowl.

Anthony_Smith27
02-06-2007, 08:06 PM
i accidentally clicked on bettis, but it's sanders, he's WAAAAYYY better. just look at the post of above me for the reason

fansince'76
02-06-2007, 08:08 PM
Bettis was the best "big back" of all time - Sanders was arguably the best back ever, period. Sanders.

ChronoCross
02-06-2007, 09:10 PM
I love Bettis. Sanders never impressed me during playoffs, should check out his stats there. He season play was great and awesome at times. But Bettis played with heart soul and pride each game. Sanders did not.

Stlrs4Life
02-06-2007, 09:24 PM
Only similiar thing about them, is 1 lives in Detroit, and the other played in Detroit.

PisnNapalm
02-06-2007, 10:13 PM
Bettis played on a team that was committed to winning. Imagine how many yards Sanders would have had if he played for a good team. Simply awesome.

fansince'76
02-06-2007, 10:20 PM
Bettis played on a team that was committed to winning. Imagine how many yards Sanders would have had if he played for a good team. Simply awesome.

Same goes for Payton - although he went out playing on a good team, the better part of his career was spent playing on terrible teams as well.

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
02-06-2007, 10:51 PM
Bettis was a great player.....Great team player
But never had the moves (not even close) to sanders....
If Sanders did not retire early he may have been the best ever

Indy_Steelers
02-07-2007, 07:37 AM
For me it comes down to Super Bowls won. Please refer to my signature.

HometownGal
02-07-2007, 07:48 AM
Sanders hands down.

Livinginthe past
02-07-2007, 08:11 AM
Yup, Sanders by a mile.

Bettis was a very good RB, perfect for what the Steelers wanted to do, during his career.

Sanders was an amazing athelete and never had the backing of a good team to help him get a ring.

Personally speaking, I think QB's should take more heat for not getting a ring than RB's - they have the ability to have way more impact on any given game and that effect is probably exaggerated in the post-season.

One of the great things about Sanders was teams knew he was getting the ball, and getting it often - yet they were powerless to stop him.

Here are some clips of the main man - notice how most of the runs dont go where they are designed.

Sanders had that amazing playmaking ability to diagose a busted play and make it into a positive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XNEMloAZ7A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Untn5mC9278

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5xqCM03Imw

Enjoy.

NM

Big D
02-07-2007, 09:30 AM
come on people 8 for bettis. Lets not be complete homers. If sanders wouldnt have retired early he would probably have ended up with every single rushing record out there.

amwreck
02-07-2007, 10:48 AM
How good of a leader was Sanders during his time? Did he take in every rookie and make sure that they were approaching the game the right way? Did he help coach others to play the starting role in his position? Did he ever take a pay cut to allow the team to surround him with the players necessary to win a Super Bowl? There are always a lot more things to consider when you are talking about a team game. No doubt Sanders was a better runner than Bettis, overall. But, another thing I wonder about is how many first downs did Sanders get in third and short situations, compared to Bettis. Overall, Bettis helped his team win a Super Bowl which made him more valuable to his team than Sanders. I'll give the nod to Bettis simply on that.

BengalBrian
02-07-2007, 10:53 AM
Sanders winning by 9!? lol

Wow..

Big D
02-07-2007, 10:59 AM
Sanders winning by 9!? lol

Wow..

I hate agreeing with a bengal fan

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-07-2007, 11:02 AM
Yup, Sanders by a mile.

Bettis was a very good RB, perfect for what the Steelers wanted to do, during his career.

Sanders was an amazing athelete and never had the backing of a good team to help him get a ring.

Personally speaking, I think QB's should take more heat for not getting a ring than RB's - they have the ability to have way more impact on any given game and that effect is probably exaggerated in the post-season.

One of the great things about Sanders was teams knew he was getting the ball, and getting it often - yet they were powerless to stop him.

Here are some clips of the main man - notice how most of the runs dont go where they are designed.

Sanders had that amazing playmaking ability to diagose a busted play and make it into a positive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XNEMloAZ7A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Untn5mC9278

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5xqCM03Imw

Enjoy.

NM

I loved to WATCH Sanders....but if you are at the Superbowl with 4th and goal...and down by 4 points...who do you want to run the ball....

The thing about Sanders that always bothered me was that he would get his 100 yard games on 3 or 4 runs..and get tackled at or behind the line of scrimmage the majority of the game....Granted he could break the long one...but four 30 yard gains ....and stopped at the line of scrimmage 15 times doesnt win many games...(obviously)....give me the RB who can get you 4 yards virtually every time...not average 4 yards but hold the record for being tackled behind the line of scrimmage more than any RB in the modern era.

GREAT highlight RB...not a workhorse like Jerome.

I'll take Bettis.


By the way..just hit the 2,500 post milestone while being a Bettis Homer!!!!!

Big D
02-07-2007, 11:04 AM
I loved to WATCH Sanders....but if you are at the Superbowl with 4th and goal...and down by 4 points...who do you want to run the ball....

The thing about Sanders that always bothered me was that he would get his 100 yard games on 3 or 4 runs..and get tackled at or behind the line of scrimmage the majority of the game....Granted he could break the long one...but four 30 yard gains ....and stopped at the line of scrimmage 15 times doesnt win many games...(obviously)....give me the RB who can get you 4 yards virtually every time...not average 4 yards but hold the record for being tackled behind the line of scrimmage more than any RB in the modern era.

GREAT highlight RB...not a workhorse like Jerome.

I'll take Bettis.


By the way..just hit the 2,500 post milenmarker while being a Bettis Homer!!!!!

Sounds alot like our willie parker

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-07-2007, 11:06 AM
Sounds alot like our willie parker

LOL..except Willie doesnt have the double hinged ankles that Sanders seemed to have!!

Livinginthe past
02-07-2007, 12:07 PM
I loved to WATCH Sanders....but if you are at the Superbowl with 4th and goal...and down by 4 points...who do you want to run the ball....

The thing about Sanders that always bothered me was that he would get his 100 yard games on 3 or 4 runs..and get tackled at or behind the line of scrimmage the majority of the game....Granted he could break the long one...but four 30 yard gains ....and stopped at the line of scrimmage 15 times doesnt win many games...(obviously)....give me the RB who can get you 4 yards virtually every time...not average 4 yards but hold the record for being tackled behind the line of scrimmage more than any RB in the modern era.

GREAT highlight RB...not a workhorse like Jerome.

I'll take Bettis.


By the way..just hit the 2,500 post milestone while being a Bettis Homer!!!!!

Well now, if everything was equal.....4th and goal needing the TD....id probably opt for Mr Bettis.

I think its fair to say that Bettis had a much better O-Line than Sanders for the majority of his career - those 5 guys had one main priority and that was to open holes for the Bus.

As shifty as Bettis was (he was very agile for a big guy) i'll bet he didnt watch his O-line disintergrate in front of him like Sanders did - just on those highlights you can see Barry having to redesign plays as he went.

Bettis behind that Detriot O-Line?

I think he would have been stuffed for quite a few losses.

Congrats on 2k5 :cheers:

NM

Big D
02-07-2007, 12:10 PM
You also have to remeber that sanders had coaches like wayne fonts and bobby ross. Not Bill Cowher

Big D
02-07-2007, 12:14 PM
1993 ram | 16 | 294 1429 4.9 7 | 26 244 9.4 0 |
| 1994 ram | 16 | 319 1025 3.2 3 | 31 293 9.5 1 |
| 1995 stl | 15 | 183 637 3.5 3 | 18 106 5.9 0 |
| 1996 pit | 16 | 320 1431 4.5 11 | 22 122 5.5 0 |
| 1997 pit | 15 | 375 1665 4.4 7 | 15 110 7.3 2 |
| 1998 pit | 15 | 316 1185 3.8 3 | 16 90 5.6 0 |
| 1999 pit | 16 | 299 1091 3.6 7 | 21 110 5.2 0 |
| 2000 pit | 16 | 355 1341 3.8 8 | 13 97 7.5 0 |
| 2001 pit | 11 | 225 1072 4.8 4 | 8 48 6.0 0 |
| 2002 pit | 13 | 187 666 3.6 9 | 7 57 8.1 0 |
| 2003 pit | 16 | 246 811 3.3 7 | 13 86 6.6 0 |
| 2004 pit | 15 | 250 941 3.8 13 | 6 46 7.7 0 |
| 2005 pit | 12 | 110 368 3.3 9 | 4 40 10.0 0 |
+----------+-----+--------------------------+-------------------------+
| TOTAL | 192 | 3479 13662 3.9 91 | 200 1449 7.2 3 |
I thought I would break out bettis stats. Couldnt help but to notice that two of his three years with the rams he averaged 3.5 yrards or les. Comes here and has an average roughly around 4.2 per carry his first year. He got spoiled running behind dawson and faneca.

DACEB
02-07-2007, 12:38 PM
Sorry, I LOVE Bettis but, Sanders was better.

The best all time was Payton IMHO.

Big D
02-07-2007, 12:39 PM
I would have to say gale sayers

4n2t0
02-07-2007, 05:00 PM
Best back ever...

JIM BROWN.

MACH1
02-07-2007, 05:10 PM
Sanders by a mile.

If he hadn't retired early he'd put that all-time rushing record out there so far nobody would ever get it (accept LT maybe) It wouldn't be Emmit Smiths record.

Big D
02-07-2007, 05:12 PM
Sanders by a mile.

If he hadn't retired early he'd put that all-time rushing record out there so far nobody would ever get it (accept LT maybe) It wouldn't be Emmit Smiths record.

I agree. Emmitt smiths records dont mean jack to me considering the offensive line he ran behind. Duce staley could put up numbers like that behind that line.

MACH1
02-07-2007, 05:13 PM
I agree. Emmitt smiths records dont mean jack to me considering the offensive line he ran behind. Duce staley could put up numbers like that behind that line.

Thats just it Sanders didnt have much of a line.

CantStop85
02-07-2007, 07:17 PM
Hey, at least this isn't a random poll.

Anyone who votes Bettis over Sanders is a homer. In fact, only Walter Payton, Jim Brown, and Gale Sayers even have an argument.

tony hipchest
02-07-2007, 07:19 PM
Hey, at least this isn't a random poll.

Anyone who votes Bettis over Sanders is a homer. In fact, only Walter Payton, Jim Brown, and Gale Sayers even have an argument.watch out. bengalbrian may type "lol" at you. :rolleyes:

silver & black
02-07-2007, 07:51 PM
As much as I enjoyed watching Bettis, I have to say Sanders.

Steelersfan4life0655
02-07-2007, 10:50 PM
honestly, i think this is kinda unfair. two different style runners. you know bettis wasnt going to get more than 11 to 12 thousand yards in his career, he knew the type of runner he was and stuck to that. sanders, was your homerrun hitting rb and could easily get 100+ yards on half dozen carries. so yeah, there's no comparison to sheer yardage for both runners. if i had to pick for stats, sure sanders, but for heart and leadership and mentoring, bettis by a country mile.

steel#1
02-07-2007, 11:59 PM
Sorry being a long time Steeler fan I love Bettis and his contributions to the team. However, Sanders was just electrifying to watch. He alone was such an exciting impact player he could almost win games single-handed. It always seemed like such a shame that they wouldn't either let him go, or surround him with some better quality players. He deserved better--if they had let him go I believe he would have played longer. Who wants to play for an organization who's only commitment is to mediocrity?

lambert_58
02-08-2007, 04:36 AM
sanders no doubt but ill always love the bus

BengalBrian
02-08-2007, 09:10 AM
watch out. bengalbrian may type "lol" at you. :rolleyes:

Quit trying to start trouble anthony

OMG Bettis by 16 now? lol (theres yer lol tony)

tony hipchest
02-08-2007, 09:53 AM
Quit trying to start trouble anthony

OMG Bettis by 16 now? lol (theres yer lol tony) "Bettis by 16"??? :huh:

let me help you out here brian:

sanders- 35

bettis- (now)17

so actually its sanders "by" 18.

....and thats how you read a poll. :coffee:

your welcome.

BengalBrian
02-08-2007, 10:11 AM
"Bettis by 16"??? :huh:

let me help you out here brian:

sanders- 35

bettis- (now)17

so actually its sanders "by" 18.

....and thats how you read a poll. :coffee:

your welcome.

The fact that Bettis was able to even get 10 votes is a sham

4n2t0
02-08-2007, 04:48 PM
The fact that Bettis was able to even get 10 votes is a sham

Which Bengal back would you like to throw into the discussion? Now that would be a useless poll, Bengal backs, yeah right!

fansince'76
02-08-2007, 04:51 PM
Which Bengal back would you like to throw into the discussion? Now that would be a useless poll, Bengal backs, yeah right!

Consider the source - the fan of a team that the Bus ran over twice a year for a decade....

BigSteelThrill
02-08-2007, 06:25 PM
Sanders, by a wide wide margin. At least if you are talking about 12-35 carries a game.
As a situational runner, Bettis offers some things that Sanders doesn, obviously.

Indy_Steelers
02-08-2007, 07:43 PM
Anybody that roots for a team that has NEVER won a NFL Championship and has only ONE (1) player in the HOF, and he is a lineman (Anthony Munoz), should be quiet PERIOD.:bash:
QUIT BEING A TROLL. :chair: If you want to stir up trouble go to a Browns message board.

:sign09:

Steeldude
02-08-2007, 09:11 PM
it's no contest. bettis is nowhere near sanders' league. there isn't a situation where i would choose bettis over sanders.

BengalBrian
02-08-2007, 09:30 PM
Anybody that roots for a team that has NEVER won a NFL Championship and has only ONE (1) player in the HOF, and he is a lineman (Anthony Munoz), should be quiet PERIOD.:bash:
QUIT BEING A TROLL. :chair: If you want to stir up trouble go to a Browns message board.

:sign09:

So because I actually think Sanders is way better than Bettis, I am a troll?

Ok.. whatever you say joy :thumbsup:

SuckItUp
02-09-2007, 05:15 PM
LOL...so there!

Anyways...Bettis is the back for goal line and short yardage situations. Sanders for everything else.

Bettis wasn't nearly as shifty as Sanders and Sanders wasn't nearly as powerful as Bettis.

Imagine the two of them playing together? ....wow....

Stlrs4Life
02-09-2007, 05:24 PM
Bunglebrian is just mad that you didn't put in Icky Woods or Rudi Johnson.

BengalBrian
02-09-2007, 07:18 PM
Bunglebrian is just mad that you didn't put in Icky Woods or Rudi Johnson.

Yea.. Thats it
:thumbsup: