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floodcitygirl
02-19-2007, 01:50 PM
There are very few guys in this draft who are all-around great players," NFLBengals say character counts
Team will look for defensive standouts, good guys at scouting combine
BY MARK CURNUTTE | MCURNUTTE@ENQUIRER.COM



Preparation for the NFL draft hits high gear this week when the annual scouting combine starts in Indianapolis. The draft is April 28 and 29.

And despite pressing needs on defense, compared to few on offense, the Bengals will continue to look to add the best player available - regardless of position, coach Marvin Lewis told The Enquirer.

Player interviews and workouts - speed, agility and strength - will start Thursday at the Indiana Convention Center and RCA Dome.


"Certain positions, where we have established veteran players at a (high) level of compensation, we don't look to be drafting there," said Lewis.

Lewis mentioned quarterback and wide receiver as two of those positions.

"You have to be careful and conscious of that - not getting skewed (too much salary-cap space on one side of the ball), not being too one-sided," he said.

The production and money are both weighted to the offense. The need is on defense, where the Bengals were inconsistent against the run and ranked 31st against the pass in 2006.

The Bengals, stung by nine player arrests in the past 14 months, also will make player character a higher priority in 2007, club president Mike Brown told The Enquirer in an exclusive interview.

Still, when asked about Brown's comments regarding the importance of character, Lewis said: "It's always been. You can't control what happens."

The Bengals will put great effort into finding players who can contribute immediately.

One such player was cornerback Johnathan Joseph, their first-round pick in 2006.

Joseph is one of the six of 16 draft picks from 2005 and 2006 to be arrested since Jan. 1, 2006. He was arrested for marijuana possession in January.

"We've had a bad run where these guys have tripped us up and given us a bad name," Lewis said.

And affected the team on the field: big-play linebacker Odell Thurman, the team's second-round pick in 2005 and its leading tackler that season, is serving a one-year suspension for a third violation of the league substance abuse policy.

Wideout Chris Henry, arrested four times in three states since December 2005, already served a two-game league suspension during the 2006 season and could face more time off courtesy of NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.

The hope inside the Bengals organization is that one-time and multiple offenders alike will learn their lessons.

Lewis has talked to his players.

To Joseph, a surprise first-time offender, Lewis said: "You're risking your life. You need to understand it. Hopefully, you getting pulled over will save your life in the long run. It's not a good thing. You're associating yourself with bad people."

So it remains to be seen whether the Bengals will pass on players with character issues in their background or favor players with reputations for being solid citizens.

NFLDraftScout.com analyst Rob Rang thinks there are talented players in the draft who are appealing because they achieve high marks for behavior off the field.

One is Louisville defensive tackle Amobi Okoye, who is only 19 years old but learning fast. Rang has the Bengals picking Okoye in the first round. Okoye has had an impressive offseason.

At 312 pounds, the Nigerian is best against the run and known for his ability to make quick reads and stay on his feet.

"And his character ranking is off the charts," Rang said.

If the Bengals go for an inside linebacker, Mississippi's Patrick Willie is the best available and should still be on the board at No. 18 in the first round.

One of the best positions in the draft is defensive end, but the Bengals' offseason investments of a potential $33 million over six years in Robert Geathers and $8.6 million in using the franchise tag on Justin Smith make the selection of a defensive end unlikely.

More likely would be help at linebacker and in the secondary, where starting cornerback Tory James is not expected back - his contract expires March 2 - and the performance of Deltha O'Neal is all or nothing.

The key will be finding the right player to fit the Bengals' system.

"There are very few guys in this draft who are all-around great players," NFLDraftScout.com expert Rang said. "But there are guys who are very good at what they do. It is a year of specialty players."

Besides newcomers, the Bengals also should be able to count on increased contributions from recent draft picks.

The Bengals will draft 18th in the first round. They have no third-round pick after selecting former Virginia linebacker Ahmad Brooks in the supplemental draft in July.

Brooks is among the players being counted on to produce more as they gain experience.

For example, what will the Bengals get from third-round 2006 defensive end Frostee Rucker, who missed all of his rookie season on the injured reserve list? What about seventh-round wide receiver Bennie Brazell, who dazzled early in training camp before suffering a hamstring injury? What about fifth-round linebacker A.J. Nicholson, who was charged with theft in May 2006, just a month after the draft, and missed most of his rookie season?

The Bengals are counting on more on-field contributions and less off-field distractions from recent picks.

"You build your team through the draft," Lewis said.



I know that this subject has been talked to death, but I thought some might enjoy this article that was in yesterday's paper. Note Lewis's comments on Brown's remarks. :dang: :sofunny:

Mosca
02-19-2007, 01:57 PM
I think they should go for cute guys. Beauty, that's what really counts. Nothin' like looking hot in tiger stripes.


Tom

lamberts-lost-tooth
02-19-2007, 02:28 PM
The Bengals, stung by nine player arrests in the past 14 months, also will make player character a higher priority in 2007, club president Mike Brown told The Enquirer in an exclusive interview.

Still, when asked about Brown's comments regarding the importance of character, Lewis said: "It's always been. You can't control what happens."

..and lets all enjoy the meltdown while Marvin "Nero" Lewis plays his violin as Cincy burns down around his ears....

What a jackass....he has his head so far in the sand he may draft players from China.

polamalufan43
02-19-2007, 02:45 PM
Doesn't he mean through the parole board?

Really? I thought they went through the court trial schedule and picked whoever had a "healthy criminal element"

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

floodcitygirl
02-19-2007, 02:45 PM
I think they should go for cute guys. Beauty, that's what really counts. Nothin' like looking hot in tiger stripes.


TomNow Mosca's idea is one to consider. The only problem would be who's judgement would be used in choosing the above mentioned "cute players"??? Think blonde mohawk and gold teeth in tiger stripes???!! :jawdrop:

tony hipchest
02-19-2007, 02:46 PM
character has "always" counted???? has any HC ever been in more denial than lewis?

polamalufan43
02-19-2007, 02:48 PM
Now Mosca's idea is one to consider. The only problem would be who's judgement would be used in choosing the above mentioned "cute players"??? Think blonde mohawk and gold teeth in tiger stripes???!! :jawdrop:

U to the G to the L to the Y....
oh... so that's how all the locker rrom mirrors broke in Cinci....

character has "always" counted???? has any HC ever been in more denial than lewis?

Hmm....As far as I can remember....umm....

Yeah that would be a NO

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

polamalufan43
02-19-2007, 02:49 PM
Um... yeah...don't know how this happened and it wont let me delete it.

CrazySteelerFan
02-19-2007, 05:04 PM
Bungles?...character? :toofunny: :sofunny: :toofunny: :sofunny: :toofunny: :sofunny: :toofunny: :sofunny: :toofunny: :sofunny: :toofunny: :sofunny:

CantStop85
02-19-2007, 05:10 PM
I wish Okoye would drop to 18.

Preacher
02-19-2007, 05:13 PM
Caricature of a football team maybe... but not character

tony hipchest
02-19-2007, 05:23 PM
I wish Okoye would drop to 18.he seems to be a perfect steeler as far as character is concerned. what if funny is media and bengalfans thinking this 19 year old with impeccable character can turn around the 40+ thugs the bengals have on their roster, when actually the opposite would happen. the bengals would be a bad influence on this impressionable youth and ruin him for life.

throwing him in with the bungles is like throwing a virgin into a wh0rehouse.

Preacher
02-19-2007, 05:27 PM
he seems to be a perfect steeler as far as character is concerned. what if funny is media and bengalfans thinking this 19 year old with impeccable character can turn around the 40+ thugs the bengals have on their roster, when actually the opposite would happen. the bengals would be a bad influence on this impressionable youth and ruin him for life.

throwing him in with the bungles is like throwing a virgin into a wh0rehouse.

You know, he may be a guy that come come up and change the team to a 4-3. Then drop back and change the team to a 3-4. Sure would add another wrinkle in the play calling. However, would he be able to cover well?

augustashark
02-19-2007, 05:28 PM
he seems to be a perfect steeler as far as character is concerned. what if funny is media and bengalfans thinking this 19 year old with impeccable character can turn around the 40+ thugs the bengals have on their roster, when actually the opposite would happen. the bengals would be a bad influence on this impressionable youth and ruin him for life.

throwing him in with the bungles is like throwing a virgin into a wh0rehouse.

I disagree, it would be like a wh0re being thrown into an NBA allstar party.

tony hipchest
02-19-2007, 05:32 PM
I disagree, it would be like a wh0re being thrown into an NBA allstar party.:sofunny: you are soooo right and i was soooo wrong! :sofunny:

preach, i think okoye could be a fine end or tackle in the 3-4 or 4-3. no way i would want to see him converted to a LB.

CantStop85
02-19-2007, 05:32 PM
You know, he may be a guy that come come up and change the team to a 4-3. Then drop back and change the team to a 3-4. Sure would add another wrinkle in the play calling. However, would he be able to cover well?

Um, no.

He's a good athlete...but he's not Julius Peppers.

polamalufan43
02-19-2007, 06:39 PM
:sofunny: you are soooo right and i was soooo wrong! :sofunny:

preach, i think okoye could be a fine end or tackle in the 3-4 or 4-3. no way i would want to see him converted to a LB.

:iagree: i mean, it's worth trying.. but still no

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

stlrtruck
02-20-2007, 07:55 AM
I'm sorry but did he really say anything in that article? I feel like I'm in the movie "Billy Madison" when the comment is made that "We're all dumber for listening to it."

HometownGal
02-20-2007, 08:30 AM
Yeah, the Bungles have "character" alright. Characters in the remake of .....

http://www.cooldraft.com/longest%20yard.jpg

JDB in N.C.
02-20-2007, 08:44 AM
I would say "character" is a subject they need to address.

fansince'76
02-20-2007, 08:49 AM
I would say "character" is a subject they need to address.

From the article: "And despite pressing needs on defense, compared to few on offense, the Bengals will continue to look to add the best player available - regardless of position, coach Marvin Lewis told The Enquirer."

This says to me that they're pretty much gonna keep the status quo.

BOXCAR JOEY
02-20-2007, 09:24 AM
I had to bring this one up again. It seemed oh so fitting.

http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c393/trappedinemerica/bengalsdraftpick.jpg[/QUOTE]

SteelShooter
02-20-2007, 10:15 AM
Now Mosca's idea is one to consider. The only problem would be who's judgement would be used in choosing the above mentioned "cute players"??? Think blonde mohawk and gold teeth in tiger stripes???!! :jawdrop:

:sofunny: :sofunny: :joker: :sofunny: :sofunny: Too funny FCG!





Oh! And as far as the article itself is concerned: :sofunny: :sofunny: :joker: :sofunny: :sofunny:

polamalufan43
02-20-2007, 04:17 PM
:sofunny: :sofunny: :joker: :sofunny: :sofunny: Too funny FCG!





Oh! And as far as the article itself is concerned: :sofunny: :sofunny: :joker: :sofunny: :sofunny:

No doubt this one is up in Lewis office, right beside the door to the cells.
Seriously, they better do something before the start of the pre-season, I think were are all getting tired of having to find more jail cell pics to toy around with (thank God for photoshop)

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

ChronoCross
02-21-2007, 11:43 PM
IF you combine the Bungles and Titans together you would have a great prison team. Heck even throw in some of them Raiders players. By 2009 Bungles will finish there new Jail that is connected to Paul Brown Stadium, heck the Judge can go watch the game for free while keeping a eye on them.