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SteelZeal
08-23-2005, 04:06 PM
Rattay named '9ers starter over Alex Smith (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2141244)

Alex Smith was all but given the job, and somehow managed to lose it in two preseason games. That may seem a little harsh, but he must be nowhere near ready. I saw him in action briefly during an exhibition game, and although he was pretty horrible, his line was giving him about 1.5 seconds to throw each time he dropped back to pass.

Smith will see action soon enough, though. Rattay isn't the most durable guy, and behind that line....whoo.

Of course, it's way way too early to call Smith a bust or anything like that (I think he can be pretty good eventually), but it leads me to another point:

Picking a QB #1 is usually a losing proposition. There is always pressure to do so from fans and members of the organization who feel a young QB is needed for a fresh start. But a young QB normally takes years to get used to the NFL, and if he's picked #1, he's probably the highest-paid player on your team. And sometimes these QBs get thrown into the fire even if they're not ready, because really, are you gonna pay a guy $8 mil to ride the pine all year?

The model of long-term success in the NFL now is to pay the defense and your o-line (or find bargains). Of course, with sustained success, this becomes impossible; the QB and other skill players will get paid. Example: Manning's contract prevents the Colts from signing great defensive players, and it's hard to win a Super Bowl without a good defense. Tom Brady's new deal will be hurting the Pats cap-wise eventually, no matter how smart the FO is. It can't be avoided forever.

Just four QBs in NFL history drafted first overall have won the SB: Bradshaw, Plunkett, Elway, Aikman.

LambertIsGod58
08-23-2005, 06:10 PM
I say that Rattay should start. Smith is too green at this point and from I've seen hasn't looked too great.

blairsummit
08-23-2005, 10:17 PM
I say that Rattay should start. Smith is too green at this point and from I've seen hasn't looked too great.
agreed. smith just needs more snaps in practice plain in simple.

BlitzburghRockCity
08-23-2005, 10:25 PM
ah, they can't all be Big Ben's can they!!!

IF the 49ers are rebuilding, u might as well build behind your #1 pick, the guy who is going to lead you into the future.. the packers too their lumps w/ Favre when he came into the league and now he's an HOF QB and the Packers are always competitive.. u gotta start somewhere..

SteelZeal
08-24-2005, 12:24 AM
But...

Favre was drafted by Atlanta, as a second-round pick. He didn't take there for a number of reasons (mostly not getting along with Jerry Glanville), so Green Bay dealt for him the following year - they gave up a second-round pick.

BlitzburghRockCity
08-24-2005, 01:08 AM
Right, but Holmgren put Favre in and stuck w/ him..thru all the picks, the sacks, the poorly thrown passes, and as he grew, so did the packers... now if your a team thats established and a good core of players who can already challenge for the playoffs and beyond, then yeah I'd let him sit, but if your entire team sucks and ur rebuilding from the ground up, why not stick him in there and let him take his lumps. Sure you'll have to pull him maybe from time to time, and you'll give up a couple years as you rebuild..but Rattay is nothing special either.

:)

ironcitychef
08-24-2005, 07:41 AM
I keep thinking back to Ben having to read the plays off his wrist all last year. You gotta just put them in and let them learn. Does putting in Rattay make them better? Don't think so. They are not favorites to win the division now because of it, so what do they gain?

bengalsfan21
08-24-2005, 12:48 PM
I say keep Smith in, 49ers aren't going to do anything great for a few years, they should put him in now and let him work the kinks out. So when the time comes he will be ready, if they make him a back up he will not be ready to take over when the time comes he will need a year or so to get into the groove.

Prosdo
08-24-2005, 01:53 PM
I say let Smith lead the team as well. They can't do much worse can they? Let Smith play I think they have more of a chance with him then anyone else.

Tha rock
08-25-2005, 05:24 PM
The niners need to do something quick!

hardwork
08-25-2005, 09:18 PM
"The model of long-term success in the NFL now is to pay the defense and your o-line (or find bargains)"

The Patriots pay their offensive line less in total then many teams pay just one offensive line star.

Tedy Bruschi was paid 800,000 last year. Ty Law is gone because he got greedy.

You think because the Steelers operate the way you suggest that thats the best way. It may be the best way for you guys to operate, but it isn't the model all teams should go by.

SteelZeal
08-27-2005, 09:50 AM
Actually, that's pretty much the same model the Pats use, at least up until the new Brady contract.

Pats Salary Cap Info (http://www.patscap.com/)

Three of the top four guys are defenders, and six of the top ten (the other four are Brady, Dillon, Light and Vinatieri.) And Ty Warren and Vince Wilfork are next in line.

And I said you can find bargains on the O-line; the Pats have done that.