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Atlanta Dan
03-08-2007, 07:44 AM
This from today's P-G:

Joey Porter believes he might have remained with the Steelers had Bill Cowher not quit as their coach in January.

"I would like to say that he would have made an effort to get something done over there. I just feel that way," said Porter at a news conference yesterday in Miami after he signed a five-year, $32 million contract with the Dolphins...

The Steelers feared he would go through with a holdout this year. Porter scoffed at reports that the Steelers believed his play had slipped last season after he made three Pro Bowls in eight years with them and climbed to fourth on their career sack list with 60.

"They have to have something to write so it doesn't bother me at all," Porter said. "I know what I can do. The reality of it, you put me in a situation to do my job, I can do my job well.

"The reality of last year, our whole season last year, the team didn't get it done. We didn't play well enough to be successful. I think as a whole team we never had that many third downs; we never were ahead of a team to get after the quarterback like we normally would.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07067/767807-66.stm

Joey should have kept it zipped after he made what I thought were his sincerely gracious comments last week.

So he was not "put in a situation to do his job" while only having seven sacks last year (6 of which were against the Dolphins, Raiders,and Bucs) because the rest of the defense did not put other teams in third and long a lot and the offense did not get the lead in the second half?

Excuses, excuses ... Joey was a great Steeler but his play has been slipping and he has been getting old.

No shame in that, but shame on Joey for claiming the mean Steelers would not have let him go if his best buddy Cowher was still around.

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
03-08-2007, 08:02 AM
Cowher or not........he would not get the money the dolphins gave him

19ward86
03-08-2007, 08:13 AM
he probably would still be a steeler because of the relationship between them.

TackleMeBen
03-08-2007, 08:22 AM
i doubt he would still be steeler unless he was going to take less money than what the fish offered him. the only good thing is at least he didnt go to the browns, ravens, or jailbirds,.. i mean bengals.. sorry:wink02:

floodcitygirl
03-08-2007, 08:36 AM
While Joey may be correct in what he's saying, I'd rather he just leave it to the comments that he made last week. The "what if's" aren't gonna change or help a thing by talking about it publically. Best left for private inspection.

Counselor
03-08-2007, 08:40 AM
Cowher or not........he would not get the money the dolphins gave him

No he wouldn't have gotten dolphin money---but he might not have hit the open market to see Dolphin $ was available. Cowher considered him top of his list of players---he may have been able to pressured the Rooneys into giving Porter contract satisfactory to Porter at the expense of another player or two.

So he was not "put in a situation to do his job" while only having seven sacks last year (6 of which were against the Dolphins, Raiders,and Bucs) because the rest of the defense did not put other teams in third and long a lot and the offense did not get the lead in the second half?

OK, so what did he say that was wrong? That entire defense was put in a bad situation last year----terrible field position (from short punts and turnovers), on the field contantly because our offense kept going three and out, when Steelers would force a turnover, our offense would give it right back (punt or turnover).

I didn't get the impression he was blaming his teamates at all----I think he was pointing out the fact that the entire team (including hmself) didn't get the job done last year---but it doesn't mean he can't get it done in the future. If I were a Dolphin fan---I'd be sure happy to hear that.

fansince'76
03-08-2007, 08:42 AM
Cowher or not........he would not get the money the dolphins gave him

Bingo - nice deflection job by Joey to put it all on the FO, though. And if he would have stayed if Cowher had stayed, why all the grousing about his contract for a year+ before he even left?

nicesteel4life
03-08-2007, 08:47 AM
LOAD OF CRAP!.......Still running mouth instead of Playing
Joey Listen...Dont tarnish your legacy with trivial garbage!

fansince'76
03-08-2007, 08:56 AM
Cowher considered him top of his list of players---he may have been able to pressured the Rooneys into giving Porter contract satisfactory to Porter at the expense of another player or two.

Ben, Troy, or both?

DACEB
03-08-2007, 09:33 AM
Love you Joey, but shut up and concentrate on the 'fins. You got what you wanted.

As for the comment about Cohwer, IMO Joey probably would still be here. I've been thinking about this for a while so here goes. It's my opinion that Cohwer leveraged the future of the team to try and win before he retired from the 'Burgh. He is the reason we're in the mess we are in with the cap. I believe Cohwer knew he would retire or if nothing less get a huge contract and continue to try and win with his boys, we all know Cohwer had his boys. The Rooneys would have payed top dollar for the same results or dwindelling results and been even that much deeper in salary cap hell.

I believe we made the right move with Porter. I believe we made the right move with Cohwer. Cohwers time in the 'Burgh was over, he was always a little to Marty-esque for me anyways. I also believe we made the right move with Tomlin and that is why I'm excited and looking forward to this season and the future.

fansince'76
03-08-2007, 09:37 AM
As for the comment about Cohwer, IMO Joey probably would still be here.

Sorry, but I beg to differ. Joey was very vocal about his unhappiness with his contract LONG before Cowher ever left.

Counselor
03-08-2007, 09:51 AM
Ben, Troy, or both?

Hey--I didn't say it would have been the right move---I'm just saying it was possible. Cowher had a bit of clout.

Edman
03-08-2007, 10:05 AM
...And the complacency virus would've remained if Cowher had stayed.

Call me crazy, but I seriously believe if Cowher had stayed, we'd be looking at the 1980's all over again. Or at least a couple of down years. In 2006 it was obvious he just didn't care anymore. We would've seen more BS penalties, more stubbornness, more INT's, more boneheaded plays, and more shots of Zombie Cowher shuffing about the sidelines. Also, I think we probably wouldn't have had the gall to cut Joey (who is declining).

Just my opinion of course.

MACH1
03-08-2007, 10:26 AM
Cowher doesn't sign the paychecks. Joey would have been gone either way.

WWIIOwheelz
03-08-2007, 12:05 PM
I never once suspected he'd get any quieter. :)

We can expect to hear more offensive things in the future, I'm sure. I really, REALLY wish he'd gone to a NFC team. He'll be nuclear for the game with us, I'm afraid.

NV STEELERS 723
03-08-2007, 01:30 PM
Cowher doesn't sign the paychecks. Joey would have been gone either way.

THANK YOU!

Bedo1234
03-08-2007, 02:40 PM
no way he'd still be here...you look at our 2008 free agents it was either Joey goes or someone else like Troy or Fanaca....Even Ben would have been tough to resign. It sucks but Joey had to go no matter what

polamalufan43
03-08-2007, 03:09 PM
Honestly, there are many theories in this. I believe that Joey would have been more persuaded to stay if Cowher was here, but I dont nessecarily believe that he would or would not have.

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

Stlrs4Life
03-08-2007, 03:26 PM
Cowher or not........he would not get the money the dolphins gave him



That's for sure. This is Joey, just being Joey.

polamalufan43
03-08-2007, 03:29 PM
That's for sure. This is Joey, just being Joey.

Yeah, I dont think we can ask him to be more than that.

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

ChronoCross
03-08-2007, 03:47 PM
Cowher is known for not parting with players who should of been cut are benched that he likes. But looking at the cap he would of had to make some serious cuts to keep Porter even for 1 more year and even then would of been hard to get porter for a long term deal. Everything changes and Porter going may not look good to some but it was actually a good time to let him go. I like Porter just as much as the next person and kinda get tired of hearing lloyed, green and so on when them guys did not help us win a SB and the current so called below avg LBers we have now did help us win a SB with Porter. Now its time to see how the next OLB J. Harrison steps up to the plate now that he has the job. We have quality thru out the defense which can win superbowls.

steelerbackr4life
03-08-2007, 04:04 PM
Is it a big surprise that Joey spoke his mind? That is one of the things I liked about him right or wrong he didnt sugar coat anything. I just hope he doesnt feel the urge to let anyone know what he plans to do in the game against us. Because his play on the field has always backed up his mouth off it.

MasterOfPuppets
03-08-2007, 05:32 PM
lets also not forget that we suffered with kordells terrible play way longer than we should have because of cowher.

GBMelBlount
03-08-2007, 09:22 PM
Love you Joey, but shut up and concentrate on the 'fins. You got what you wanted.

As for the comment about Cohwer, IMO Joey probably would still be here. I've been thinking about this for a while so here goes. It's my opinion that Cohwer leveraged the future of the team to try and win before he retired from the 'Burgh. He is the reason we're in the mess we are in with the cap. I believe Cohwer knew he would retire or if nothing less get a huge contract and continue to try and win with his boys, we all know Cohwer had his boys. The Rooneys would have payed top dollar for the same results or dwindelling results and been even that much deeper in salary cap hell.

I believe we made the right move with Porter. I believe we made the right move with Cohwer. Cohwers time in the 'Burgh was over, he was always a little to Marty-esque for me anyways. I also believe we made the right move with Tomlin and that is why I'm excited and looking forward to this season and the future.

You nailed it! Cowher & Porter were on the downside! Go Tomlin.:tt02:

GBMelBlount
03-08-2007, 09:27 PM
Cowher is known for not parting with players who should of been cut are benched that he likes. But looking at the cap he would of had to make some serious cuts to keep Porter even for 1 more year and even then would of been hard to get porter for a long term deal. Everything changes and Porter going may not look good to some but it was actually a good time to let him go. I like Porter just as much as the next person and kinda get tired of hearing lloyed, green and so on when them guys did not help us win a SB and the current so called below avg LBers we have now did help us win a SB with Porter. Now its time to see how the next OLB J. Harrison steps up to the plate now that he has the job. We have quality thru out the defense which can win superbowls.

I don't understand. Are you saying are defense & linebackers are solid without Joey? I thinnk Harrison is a decent fill in but I'm sure you agree Chrono Cross that LB & defense is a priority in the draft. Best Wishes.:tt02:

ChronoCross
03-08-2007, 09:50 PM
I don't understand. Are you saying are defense & linebackers are solid without Joey? I thinnk Harrison is a decent fill in but I'm sure you agree Chrono Cross that LB & defense is a priority in the draft. Best Wishes.:tt02:

The defense is just fine without Joey. Not knocking Porter, but we always have someone grooming to take the next open spot. Oh yes we get some defense and depth in the Draft and maybe even a key player who might even be a impact player from day 1.

MJ5150
03-08-2007, 11:35 PM
Porter was gone the first time he opened his mouth about a new big money deal. I was in denial all season like most others around here.

The Rooneys didn't open their wallet FOR Bill Cowher, so what makes any of you think that if Cowher walked into AR's office and told them to pony up the cash for Porter that they would have said...."OK Bill, let us know how much."

-Mike