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PisnNapalm
04-05-2007, 09:50 AM
This bill if enacted would require a $10 registration fee for each gun per year. It does not affect only new purchases after enactment. It would affect each gun you own.

I own 2 guns. Both used for target shooting. I would have pay $20 per year for the right to legally own them as I do now. My wife's uncle who has been shooting all his life and has an extensive collection, would probably not be able to afford to register his guns.

He is retired and lives on a fixed income. He used to do a lot of target shooting. He also used to hunt and shoot skeet and trap as well. His eyes aren't as good as they used to be but he still likes to go shoot when he can.

Any gun not registered would have to be turned over to the state. If you're caught with an unregistered gun you will be a criminal and all your guns will be taken away and you go to jail.

Here's a link to the bill. House bill 760 (http://www.legis.state.pa.us/CFDOCS/Legis/PN/Public/btCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&sessYr=2007&sessInd=0&billBody=H&billTyp=B&billNbr=0760&pn=0881)

I wonder how long it would take for them to raise the registration fee? It could get out of hand very quickly.

If you are so inclined please write a letter to your state reps. You can also sign this online petition sponsored by a rep from Reading. http://gw_pahouseit_district128.psinternal.net/mail/util.cfm?gpiv=1999954525.25711.76&gen=1

Think about this.... The only people this bill will punish are law abiding gun owning citizens. This will not deter criminals because they wouldn't register a gun anyway!

steelerbackr4life
04-05-2007, 09:59 AM
As long as I dont have to go hunting with the Vice President. I see no reason for any bill that would force more gun control.

ARKIESTEEL
04-05-2007, 10:00 AM
oops all mine fell in the lake dont know how they got there:wink02:

MACH1
04-05-2007, 01:24 PM
What a bunch of B.S.

The only people this is going to affect are good law abiding people not the thugs who use them to kill people. Maybe they ought to work a little harder to take the guns away from the criminals, not hunters and target shooters.

ARKIESTEEL
04-05-2007, 01:59 PM
What a bunch of B.S.

The only people this is going to affect are good law abiding people not the thugs who use them to kill people. Maybe they ought to work a little harder to take the guns away from the criminals, not hunters and target shooters.



If they would enforce the laws that are already on the books then everthing would be fine not make up new laws to cover the ones they never used

PisnNapalm
04-05-2007, 02:04 PM
What gun owners are hoping is that the hunters of this state take up the cause too. I have never hunted. I did a lot of target shooting as a kid and just started back into it.

For a long time I felt that assault weapons should be banned. Then recently I sat down and thought about it. Any semi-automatic rifle does the same thing. One bullet fired with each trigger pull. It doesn't matter what kind of stock it has or what it looks like. The result is the same.

I still believe that no one needs to own a fully automatic rifle. But to ban the AK-47 because of how it looks is ridiculous.

Ya know what I found interesting this past week. I went to the range for several hours. Guys came and went with their rifles. Some had hunting rifle they were sighting in, others had their assault rifles, AK's and AR-15's, but several of them came over to ask me questions about the .22 target rifle I was using. I had the oddball rifle on the range. LOL!

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-05-2007, 02:20 PM
You have to wonder 1) who in their right mind thinks that anyone who purchases a gun illegally cares about this bill...2) If this is a thinly-veiled attempt to find out how many guns are owned by the citizens in this country... for some future regulation.

PisnNapalm
04-05-2007, 02:22 PM
This bill is in the PA State House. It's not a national bill. Some people wonder if it's even constitutional.

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-05-2007, 02:33 PM
..sounds like a way to bypass consitutional rights...like Chicagos law that states.."You can own a gun in Chicago..but you cant posess a gun in Chicago"

MACH1
04-05-2007, 03:12 PM
All I know is if they tried to pass a law like that in Idaho there would be a lynching of someone. lol

For a long time I felt that assault weapons should be banned. Then recently I sat down and thought about it. Any semi-automatic rifle does the same thing. One bullet fired with each trigger pull. It doesn't matter what kind of stock it has or what it looks like. The result is the same.

Yeah I think the same thing. I have a 12 ga. that I use to duck hunt with and its a semi-auto, it only holds 3 shells but could fall under the assault weapon category in some peoples eyes.

Preacher
04-05-2007, 03:17 PM
I have LONG held that the federal government having any list of private owners of guns is very dangerous to the well being of this nation. The fact of the matter is that guns are being used as a scapegoat, because too many people do not want to face up to the facts that the social experiments of raising your children according to Dr. Spock (not the star trek character), leniency in drug and crime enforcement, and social justification for immoral actions have failed.

Why are there more guns over the last decade or two? Not because there are more guns per capita, but because there is less morality and social pressure to exist within societal mores and norms. Those who have pushed for the reality we are now in are grasping at straws when the blame guns for killing people.

When was the last time you ever saw a gun walk down the street itself and pull its own trigger? The gun isn't the problem, too many people own too many guns without any problems for the problem to be the gun. The problem is the people. The sooner people take the blinders off thier eyes and start demanding fair punishments for crimes, demanding better morality in society, and demanding parents to be more responsible for thier own children, guns will no longer be an issue in this nation.

And before anyone starts suggestion Europe does this or disallows that, may I remind you that most of European governments still think of and treat thier citizens as subjects. We are one of the few countries where the people are supposed to take care of themselves.

PisnNapalm
04-05-2007, 03:37 PM
I haven't confirmed this yet, but I read on another forum that Rep. Jake Wheatley has pulled is name from sponsorship of the bill.

EDIT:: Confirmed...

Suitanim
04-06-2007, 02:34 PM
If you voted Democrat in the last election and don't like this piece of legislation, you only have yourself to blame.

Nancy Pelosi (as anti-gun as any fruity lib in the country) has vowed to make anti-gun legislation a top priority while she's the speaker. This will get a lot worse for gun owners or advocates before it gets any better. I don't own a gun, but I definitely think it's VERY wrong to mess with something the founding fathers felt so strongly about that they put a specific amendment into the constitution supporting.

MasterOfPuppets
04-06-2007, 02:53 PM
i have a friend that has been collecting guns his entire life.he owns 84. 11 handguns,a few assualt rifles and the rest are hunting rifles and shotguns. many are still in the original boxes,and most have never been fired. he would completely freak out if this passed!!!!

fansince'76
04-06-2007, 03:14 PM
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From 1972 - the more things change, the more they stay the same. :toofunny:

Havehammerwilltravel
04-07-2007, 12:06 AM
I think that the introducers of this bill are actually trying to start a civil war and maybe thats what we need when they are trying to take away our right to keep and bear arms. If this passes they are going to have alot more criminals on their hands. Then what would be next are they going to take away my hammers!!

SteelShooter
04-07-2007, 11:12 AM
Thanks for the post PnP.

Being a Texas resident (even after 20yrs away in the Navy, I still maintain my TX Drivers License and residency status), I do not think I can help with the PA House portion.

If I can........please let me know by PM (just to insure that I get it).

If this does go national, you had better believe I will be sending letters, signing whatever I need to in order to fight this.

This is the Gun Control fanatics way; chip away, one small piece at a time until our right to Bear Arms exists only in history books.

Stlrs4Life
04-08-2007, 12:01 PM
If you voted Democrat in the last election and don't like this piece of legislation, you only have yourself to blame.

Nancy Pelosi (as anti-gun as any fruity lib in the country) has vowed to make anti-gun legislation a top priority while she's the speaker. This will get a lot worse for gun owners or advocates before it gets any better. I don't own a gun, but I definitely think it's VERY wrong to mess with something the founding fathers felt so strongly about that they put a specific amendment into the constitution supporting.



Well, if you voted Republican in the past 2 presidential elections you have nobody else to blame but yourself.


I don't like this House Bill either, my Rep voted against it. (And by the way he is a Democrat)