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verks36
04-09-2007, 08:03 PM
OK there have been a vast selection of Running QBs in the NFL. Michel vick, Randall Cunningham, McNabb, Mcnair just to name a few.

But the question is can u name a running QB who has won a superbowl in the last 40 years. I could only think of one but it is alot harder than you think.

So running QBs may seem nice to have history proves wrong

GBMelBlount
04-09-2007, 09:55 PM
Crap, I'm new at this. Fran Tarkenton?

verks36
04-09-2007, 10:08 PM
All i got was steve young

GBMelBlount
04-09-2007, 10:16 PM
All i got was steve young

Read the specs on young. No contest. Guess I blew this thread. You should've just replied....No!!!!!!:dang:

verks36
04-09-2007, 10:19 PM
Read the specs on young. No contest. Guess I blew this thread. You should've just replied....No!!!!!!:dang:

its all good no problem but it is just a wierd stat :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

GBMelBlount
04-09-2007, 10:39 PM
Dude, let's retire this as the CT by way of NJ thread.

polamalufan43
04-10-2007, 02:34 PM
I can't think of any, unless all the runs Ben used to make counts, then I can't think of any.
True, they are successful, but I really don't think they are needed to win a SB.
~Polamalufan43:tt02:

fansince'76
04-10-2007, 03:53 PM
Roger Staubach, anybody? He wasn't called "the Dodger" for nothing.

polamalufan43
04-10-2007, 03:54 PM
Roger Staubach, anybody? He wasn't called "the Dodger" for nothing.

True, he might be considered an execption. But I think he was known better for other talents than running, or at least from my perspective.

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

sumo
04-13-2007, 08:55 PM
A lot of Qbs with great mobility have won SBs - Steve Young is the most obvious, Montana and Elway also had big runs in SB games, Bradshaw and Staubach also had great mobility - I don't know - I think you can only classify a few QBs in history as pure runners ie Vick, Bobby Douglas, -- Randall Cunningham and Steve Young early in their careers led their respective teams in rushing but later became pure passers...

GBMelBlount
04-13-2007, 09:18 PM
Roger Staubach, anybody? He wasn't called "the Dodger" for nothing.

Funny you said that 76. I thought of Tarkenton because of a book or something he had titled "better scramble than lose." When Verks said Young, I looked at stats and Fran was great for his era, but not as good as Young. I'd be interested to find out how Staubauch's rushing stats compared to FT / SY.

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-14-2007, 06:21 PM
Steve Young: 4,239 rushing yards and 43 touchdowns on 722 carries
Fran Tarkenton: 3,674 rushing yards and 32 touchdowns on 675 carries
Roger Staubach: 2264 rushing yards and 20 touchdowns on 410 carries

fansince'76
04-14-2007, 11:54 PM
True, he might be considered an execption. But I think he was known better for other talents than running, or at least from my perspective.

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

I think you may be onto something there, PF43:

Roger Staubach: 2264 rushing yards and 20 touchdowns on 410 carries

Terry Bradshaw: 2257 rushing yards and 32 TDs on 444 carries - very comparable numbers to Staubach.

Bradshaw is one of the last guys I'd think of when it comes to "running QBs" - it really is a matter of perspective as much as anything else.

tony hipchest
04-15-2007, 12:21 AM
just for comparison:

kordell 560rushes 2874yds 38tds

MasterOfPuppets
04-15-2007, 12:56 AM
Steve Young: 4,239 rushing yards and 43 touchdowns on 722 carries
Fran Tarkenton: 3,674 rushing yards and 32 touchdowns on 675 carries
Roger Staubach: 2264 rushing yards and 20 touchdowns on 410 carries

john elway 3407 rushing yds and 33 tds on 774 attempts

Livinginthe past
04-15-2007, 02:28 PM
Steve Grogan - 445 atts 2176 yards (4.88ypc)

polamalufan43
04-15-2007, 02:45 PM
just for comparison:

kordell 560rushes 2874yds 38tds

Yeah, but Kordel IMO kinda of faded away as a QB.
As for the rest of the info, good job to everyone and excellent research. They were all good running QB, but did they really have what it took to become SB champs? I mean, sure some did really win SBs, but did they contribute or did they ride on the backs of other team members, that's what I'm curious about. From what I know, they all earned their fame, but I'm not too sure.
~Polaamlufan43:tt02:

GBMelBlount
04-15-2007, 07:33 PM
Yeah, but Kordel IMO kinda of faded away as a QB.
As for the rest of the info, good job to everyone and excellent research. They were all good running QB, but did they really have what it took to become SB champs? I mean, sure some did really win SBs, but did they contribute or did they ride on the backs of other team members, that's what I'm curious about. From what I know, they all earned their fame, but I'm not too sure.
~Polaamlufan43:tt02:


I saw a piece today involving Young, they said obviously SY was plugged into a fantastic system, with a great team, under the tutelage of none other than the mighty Joe Montana. The PERFECT environment. They also mentioned they wondered how well he would have done in an environment that was less than the perfect one he had. Hmmmm. Sometimes you gotta respect the guys that do well in a mediocre or downright poor situation. Old man Manning, Sanders....any others???

fansince'76
04-15-2007, 08:20 PM
I saw a piece today involving Young, they said obviously SY was plugged into a fantastic system, with a great team, under the tutelage of none other than the mighty Joe Montana. The PERFECT environment. They also mentioned they wondered how well he would have done in an environment that was less than the perfect one he had. Hmmmm. Sometimes you gotta respect the guys that do well in a mediocre or downright poor situation. Old man Manning, Sanders....any others???

Young didn't fare too well in Tampa during his first 2 years in the NFL (1985-86), and the Bucs were pathetic at the time. As far as great players playing on mediocre to downright crappy teams for most or all of their careers, I can think of quite a few: Payton (most of his career the Bears hovered around .500), O.J. Simpson, Dick Butkus, Gale Sayers, Lee Roy Selmon (still the only "true" Buccaneer in the HoF), Steve Largent (still the only "true" Seahawk in the HoF), and Ken Houston, to name just a few.

GBMelBlount
04-15-2007, 08:27 PM
Never heard of selmon or houston. any details?

fansince'76
04-15-2007, 08:36 PM
Sure, these snippets encapsulate both players' careers quite nicely:

Ken Houston: http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=100

Lee Roy Selmon: http://www.profootballhof.com/hof/member.jsp?player_id=191

GBMelBlount
04-15-2007, 09:32 PM
Thx, 76!