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ngreene15
08-31-2005, 06:49 PM
Plaxico Burress was one of my favorite Steelers in the last few years and he was one of those guys the struck fear into the defense because of his ability to stretch the field.

Now I'm sure this has been discussed here before, but when he signed with the Giants, I thought the Steelers were going to find a guy with the same playmaking abilities as Plaxico. They didn't didn't really find their guy IMO, Cedrick Wilson won't strick fear into any defenses.

Lee Mays made a few nice plays down field last year, do you think he's going to play a bigger role in the Steelers offense this year because he can go for the long ball. How's Fred Gibson looking?

Just let my feelings on the Steelers recievers out.

Ryan.

Suitanim
08-31-2005, 06:56 PM
Plaxico Burress was one of my favorite Steelers in the last few years and he was one of those guys the struck fear into the defense because of his ability to stretch the field.

Now I'm sure this has been discussed here before, but when he signed with the Giants, I thought the Steelers were going to find a guy with the same playmaking abilities as Plaxico. They didn't didn't really find their guy IMO, Cedrick Wilson won't strick fear into any defenses.

Lee Mays made a few nice plays down field last year, do you think he's going to play a bigger role in the Steelers offense this year because he can go for the long ball. How's Fred Gibson looking?

Just let my feelings on the Steelers recievers out.

Ryan.

The fear the opposition felt was misplaced. Plex had no heart, but all the talent in the world. He is doing okay with Giants now...NOW. It broke my heart to see him jump up and fight for a ball against Cleveland in a meaningless preseason game, when he had a chance to catch a routine pass in the AFCCG last year and basically dropped it. If he caught the ball last year...Hell, it's hard to say. We may have gone on and beat NE.

Plex will prosper for a bit in NY, but his true colors will show, and dropping passes under that microscope won't work. The NY fans will be calling for his head by the end of the season...

RoethlisBURGHer
08-31-2005, 07:05 PM
Good riddance to Plax.Never ran hard when he NEEDED to,could never outjump the DB's (even though he had about 6-7 inches on them),just never showed any heart.He always fell down after the catch (even with nobody around to tackle him).

We give him the chance to make a HUGE play in the AFCC.The now infamous Fade Pass.Cleveland has Red Right 88...we have the Fade Pass.If Plax catches this ball,we're only down by 7 with about 10 minutes left in the 4th quarter.We had momentum,and we would have kept it.What does he do?It hits his hands TWICE and he still DROPS THE DAMN BALL!Instead we end up kicking a FG and lose all our momentum.

ngreene15
08-31-2005, 07:06 PM
The fear the opposition felt was misplaced. Plex had no heart, but all the talent in the world. He is doing okay with Giants now...NOW. It broke my heart to see him jump up and fight for a ball against Cleveland in a meaningless preseason game, when he had a chance to catch a routine pass in the AFCCG last year and basically dropped it. If he caught the ball last year...Hell, it's hard to say. We may have gone on and beat NE.

Plex will prosper for a bit in NY, but his true colors will show, and dropping passes under that microscope won't work. The NY fans will be calling for his head by the end of the season...
Plex was playing amazing when Ben took over, he was having a good year until he got hurt... Then he came back in week 16 I think it was, against the Ravens and had a big game.

He was labelled as playing with no heart but I don't think that was the case, him and Ben had a serious vibe going and it would have been nice to see them continue that this year.

Suitanim
08-31-2005, 07:13 PM
Plex was playing amazing when Ben took over, he was having a good year until he got hurt... Then he came back in week 16 I think it was, against the Ravens and had a big game.

He was labelled as playing with no heart but I don't think that was the case, him and Ben had a serious vibe going and it would have been nice to see them continue that this year.

Yes, him and Ben were friends, and it was mutually beneficial...however, how many possible Championship winning TD passes fell off the hands of Swann, or Stallworth, or Rice, or even crack heads like Michael Irvin?

He'll produce more of the same in NY. Unfortunately for him, the list of apologists will be much shorter, even in a huge city like NY.

TasmanianTroy271
08-31-2005, 07:22 PM
Plaxico was an alright reciever. He did have the deep threat, but it only worked when he caught the ball. He was nothing for the Red Zone, as noted in the AFC championship last year. I'm happy he's gone, but less happy with our new recievers as of now.

Lee Mays is a good 4th string reciever in my opinion. I haven't heard of him making 1 catch this preseason. Someone on this forum referred to him as Lee "get-what-you-pay-for" Mays, which is kinda true. I don't think Lee will be anything more than a 3rd string for his NFL career.

On the topic of recievers, do you guys think Cobb or Young will make the PS? if so, which one and why?

clevestinks
08-31-2005, 07:27 PM
Plax was drafted to high by us.
Now is was overpaid by the Giants.
I kinda wish I had his luck, to keep falling into big money like that.

But the fact remains. He is overrated. He fit in alright here. But was never the superstar the front office thought he would be. I will miss having some height at that pos. But he will not be missed alot. He had average hands, average to slow speed, and a crappy attitude. He did though, Ihave to admit , find away to get open downfield. It wasn`t speed either. We need a big downfield reciever. Someone better than Plax

Suitanim
08-31-2005, 07:32 PM
Plax was drafted to high by us.
Now is was overpaid by the Giants.
I kinda wish I had his luck, to keep falling into big money like that.

But the fact remains. He is overrated. He fit in alright here. But was never the superstar the front office thought he would be. I will miss having some height at that pos. But he will not be missed alot. He had average hands, average to slow speed, and a crappy attitude. He did though, Ihave to admit , find away to get open downfield. It wasn`t speed either. We need a big downfield reciever. Someone better than Plax

Troy Edwards comes to mind. Tough to feel sorry for lazy receivers with good agents who get them paid 50X what they are worth, and maybe 500X for a year what the average fan makes in a lifetime. If I had the innate talent, I'd bust my ass like Ward did everyday. But I'd also be smart enough and educated enough to be my own agent...

clevestinks
08-31-2005, 07:35 PM
Troy Edwards comes to mind. Tough to feel sorry for lazy receivers with good agents who get them paid 50X what they are worth, and maybe 500X for a year what the average fan makes in a lifetime. If I had the innate talent, I'd bust my ass like Ward did everyday. But I'd also be smart enough and educated enough to be my own agent...
You are correct, two 1st round bust back to back. And Cowher has great success in the draft. Imagine if we could have came up with someone better.

Suitanim
08-31-2005, 07:37 PM
Drafting NFL receivers is tough, though...seperation is the biggest factor, and it's a whole other level in the NFL.

ngreene15
08-31-2005, 07:43 PM
You are correct, two 1st round bust back to back. And Cowher has great success in the draft. Imagine if we could have came up with someone better.
Are you calling Plex a bust? I have to disagree with that, he had two 1,000 + yard seasons.

His play dropped off in '03 after his huge year in '02, but it wasn't just him... The whole team stunk it up that year. Then in '04 he was hurt for quite a while, but when he was in there, he was a pretty darn good #2 receiver.

BlitzburghRockCity
08-31-2005, 09:07 PM
Plax is so overrated its not even funny..we all knew it.. The only good he did for us on a regular basis was drawing double teams all the time because of his size and speed. So yes we'll miss that, but we have some guys like Nate Washington who are big and strong and can develop into the same if not better weapon than plax was.

If he lived up to the potential he has, he'd be a pro bowler every year!