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Borski
04-15-2007, 08:16 PM
I was wondering if there ever was a thought about adding a chat system to the site, I think it would be pretty cool to have a live chat for things like gameday chat or other stuff

fansince'76
04-15-2007, 08:24 PM
Looks like it has already been discussed at length and probably isn't going to happen:

http://forums.steelersfever.com/showthread.php?t=14892

EDIT: Oh, well - never mind.

SteelersFever
04-15-2007, 08:24 PM
Beginning of May. Don't tell anyone I told you! :wink02:

Preacher
04-16-2007, 01:15 AM
But how will I get my post log up to rival Tony???:hunch:

X-Terminator
04-16-2007, 01:44 AM
It isn't my call to make, obviously, but I still think it's a bad idea. The fastest and easiest way to create unnecessary problems, infighting and cliques is to start a chat room. Just about every one I have ever seen has been one giant clusterfrick, causing more headaches than it's worth. Why take the risk? Yeah, yeah, I know - "don't go in if you don't like it"...but I shoot from the hip, and wanted to state my opinion on the matter.

Preacher
04-16-2007, 02:22 AM
It isn't my call to make, obviously, but I still think it's a bad idea. The fastest and easiest way to create unnecessary problems, infighting and cliques is to start a chat room. Just about every one I have ever seen has been one giant clusterfrick, causing more headaches than it's worth. Why take the risk? Yeah, yeah, I know - "don't go in if you don't like it"...but I shoot from the hip, and wanted to state my opinion on the matter.

X-term...

I gotta agree with you.

However, I do think a chatroom opened for gametime might be a great thing... as long as a mod is in it!

HometownGal
04-16-2007, 12:15 PM
It isn't my call to make, obviously, but I still think it's a bad idea. The fastest and easiest way to create unnecessary problems, infighting and cliques is to start a chat room. Just about every one I have ever seen has been one giant clusterfrick, causing more headaches than it's worth. Why take the risk? Yeah, yeah, I know - "don't go in if you don't like it"...but I shoot from the hip, and wanted to state my opinion on the matter.

I've made my feelings known on this, as well, and I can't say I disagree with you XT. In my own experiences with them, I have found that disagreements in chat rooms tend to carry over to the open board and would make our jobs even more difficult as Mods, even if the chat room is unmoderated which I think is an equally bad move. People also use these chat forums to "peddle their wares" and talk sex which isn't what these forums are intended for. (For God sake - rent a porno or chat on YIM!!) Also - the language tends to get a little over the top in chat rooms. Last but not least, you also run the risk of under 18'rs coming into the room (of course not telling anyone they are minors), telling Mom and Pop what they've read and feeling the resulting wrath of the parent(s), a headache we sure as hell don't need. However, it is Mike's decision and if he feels comfy with doing this, I have to trust his judgment.

Borski
04-16-2007, 02:00 PM
I've made my feelings known on this, as well, and I can't say I disagree with you XT. In my own experiences with them, I have found that disagreements in chat rooms tend to carry over to the open board and would make our jobs even more difficult as Mods, even if the chat room is unmoderated which I think is an equally bad move. People also use these chat forums to "peddle their wares" and talk sex which isn't what these forums are intended for. (For God sake - rent a porno or chat on YIM!!) Also - the language tends to get a little over the top in chat rooms. Last but not least, you also run the risk of under 18'rs coming into the room (of course not telling anyone they are minors), telling Mom and Pop what they've read and feeling the resulting wrath of the parent(s), a headache we sure as hell don't need. However, it is Mike's decision and if he feels comfy with doing this, I have to trust his judgment.

I think if they make it only avalible to members that have over a certain post count and over 18 we shouldn't have a problem, and if people start talking inappropriate stuff on there you could ban them from chat, or the forum all together.

I mean if its only avalible to registered members that are over 18 we wouldn't have spammers and crap, and if it doesn't work out Mike can always close the chat.

HometownGal
04-16-2007, 03:02 PM
I think if they make it only avalible to members that have over a certain post count and over 18 we shouldn't have a problem, and if people start talking inappropriate stuff on there you could ban them from chat, or the forum all together.

I mean if its only avalible to registered members that are over 18 we wouldn't have spammers and crap, and if it doesn't work out Mike can always close the chat.

If the chat would be used as a football/gameday/sports discussion forum, I wouldn't have a problem with it at all, but from my own experiences in BB chat rooms (and why I stayed out of them after those experiences), that doesn't usually happen. Also, Borski - how could we be 100% certain that a member is over the age of 18? It's not like we can see their birth certificates - LOL! Look - I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade here. My top priority is the reputation, safety and overall health of this board and its members. Like I said - if you want to chat with someone on the board, that is what the PM feature is for, as well as all of the other messenger options out there on the net.

Sure Mike could close the chat if it doesn't work out, but in all likelihood, after the damage is already done. Just my two and a half cents. :wink02:

Preacher
04-16-2007, 03:35 PM
If the chat would be used as a football/gameday/sports discussion forum, I wouldn't have a problem with it at all, but from my own experiences in BB chat rooms (and why I stayed out of them after those experiences), that doesn't usually happen. Also, Borski - how could we be 100% certain that a member is over the age of 18? It's not like we can see their birth certificates - LOL! Look - I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade here. My top priority is the reputation, safety and overall health of this board and its members. Like I said - if you want to chat with someone on the board, that is what the PM feature is for, as well as all of the other messenger options out there on the net.

Sure Mike could close the chat if it doesn't work out, but in all likelihood, after the damage is already done. Just my two and a half cents. :wink02:

I have to agree... I do like the idea of limiting it to people who have posted a certain amount of time already... say 200.

However, I just see this turning into something ugly. Gameday would be nice... turn it on 5 minutes before the game, and turn it off 5 minutes after the game. But that even opens the door.

Borski
04-16-2007, 06:35 PM
If the chat would be used as a football/gameday/sports discussion forum, I wouldn't have a problem with it at all, but from my own experiences in BB chat rooms (and why I stayed out of them after those experiences), that doesn't usually happen. Also, Borski - how could we be 100% certain that a member is over the age of 18? It's not like we can see their birth certificates - LOL! Look - I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade here. My top priority is the reputation, safety and overall health of this board and its members. Like I said - if you want to chat with someone on the board, that is what the PM feature is for, as well as all of the other messenger options out there on the net.

Sure Mike could close the chat if it doesn't work out, but in all likelihood, after the damage is already done. Just my two and a half cents. :wink02:

Well you can never be 100% sure, but Isn't that one of the questions when you sign up for this forum, of course people lie about that sometimes, but people lie about other stuff too.

I respect your concern for safety, but like I think Preacher said, if its only open for gameday and mabey the draft and only people over a certain post count can use it, then only people we already know are able to use it and if anyone acts up you can ban them from using to chat.

And I didn't mean chat as in IM or PM, I was talking about a way to discuss the game live, instead of refreshing the page every two seconds.

I do think with the members we have here and the restrictions it could be one of the safest chat rooms on the internet, but it being a gameday chat there probably would be some expletives said, but I have seen some sites use some sort of filter that makes swear words show up like "$*#%" or somthing.

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-17-2007, 08:21 AM
I have to agree... I do like the idea of limiting it to people who have posted a certain amount of time already... say 200.

However, I just see this turning into something ugly. Gameday would be nice... turn it on 5 minutes before the game, and turn it off 5 minutes after the game. But that even opens the door.

I am with you on this preacher...my experience is that it will draw people away from posting...once they state a point to whoever is in the chat...they will NEVER bother going back to the forum and reiterate the same point!!! Perhaps a game day chat would work...I just hope that however it is set up it will not subtract from what we have now.

Stlrs4Life
04-18-2007, 06:24 PM
I have been on other chat rooms with mbs, and none of the above stuff has happened. Jusst people that do not like change.

HometownGal
04-18-2007, 08:51 PM
I have been on other chat rooms with mbs, and none of the above stuff has happened. Jusst people that do not like change.

I can't speak for the others here who aren't crazy about the chat room idea, Dom, but my experiences with BB chat rooms isn't favorable and I think for the most part, I'm fairly laaid back and easy to get along with. I have no problem with change - if it has a positive end result. In this case, I just don't see a chat room on this board having any real purpose other than the reasons I mentioned earlier and several other members have posted about, as we have game day threads, the PM feature and most people today have either AIM, YIM or a telephone to use for chatting it up. I respect your opinion, Dom, even though I don't agree with it. :cheers:

verks36
04-18-2007, 09:04 PM
Beginning of May. Don't tell anyone I told you! :wink02:

NO WAY AWSOME

so thats where are donations are going SWEET:thumbsup:

Preacher
04-19-2007, 12:49 AM
:coffee:

It may work... it may not...

we better be ready to have a whole handful of mods ready to run those rooms... an unmoderated room would be absolutely hell.

Or.. bring in two or three more mods who are SOLELY responsible for sifting through all the crap in the rooms.

HometownGal
04-19-2007, 07:55 AM
:coffee:

It may work... it may not...

we better be ready to have a whole handful of mods ready to run those rooms... an unmoderated room would be absolutely hell.

Or.. bring in two or three more mods who are SOLELY responsible for sifting through all the crap in the rooms.

I believe it is going to be unmoderated (which I agree is a HUGE mistake), but as we Mods are all on the board at different times throughout the day, evening and night, we can take turns checking in to make sure things are running smoothly.

Livinginthe past
04-19-2007, 09:31 AM
I believe it is going to be unmoderated (which I agree is a HUGE mistake), but as we Mods are all on the board at different times throughout the day, evening and night, we can take turns checking in to make sure things are running smoothly.

If it is going to be officially unmoderated will you be able to apply the rules of SF to what goes on in there?

Or will it really be 'anything goes'?

We might need to clarify that issue - I can't see how you would be expected to discipline people for breaking the rules if you don't have any official power in there.

Im still a big fan of gametime threads - chatrooms are way too hectic with people talking across each other - by the time you have read your message it has already scrolled off the screen.

HometownGal
04-19-2007, 12:28 PM
If it is going to be officially unmoderated will you be able to apply the rules of SF to what goes on in there?

Or will it really be 'anything goes'?

We might need to clarify that issue - I can't see how you would be expected to discipline people for breaking the rules if you don't have any official power in there.

Im still a big fan of gametime threads - chatrooms are way too hectic with people talking across each other - by the time you have read your message it has already scrolled off the screen.

I would assume it will be "anything goes", Nigel, and that is one of the things I have a major problem with, as well as disagreements being carried over to the open board. Even though it will be officially unmoderated (from what I've been told), I'm still going to check in on occasion in an "unofficial" capacity. :wink02:

Livinginthe past
04-20-2007, 01:44 AM
I would assume it will be "anything goes", Nigel, and that is one of the things I have a major problem with, as well as disagreements being carried over to the open board. Even though it will be officially unmoderated (from what I've been told), I'm still going to check in on occasion in an "unofficial" capacity. :wink02:

Well good luck with that, sounds like you might need it.

I guess the thing is to clamp down heavily on any type of overspill into the main forum-

Whatever happens in Chatclub...stays in Chatclub.... :sofunny:

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h218/n_mckeown/brad_pitt_fight_club_001.jpg

X-Terminator
04-20-2007, 04:35 AM
I have been on other chat rooms with mbs, and none of the above stuff has happened. Jusst people that do not like change.

Well, I have been on MBs with chatrooms where this has happened, so I'm speaking from experience. In fact, I'm on a board right now where this stuff happens on a regular basis. Resistance to change has nothing to do with it.

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-20-2007, 04:47 PM
Well, I have been on MBs with chatrooms where this has happened, so I'm speaking from experience. In fact, I'm on a board right now where this stuff happens on a regular basis. Resistance to change has nothing to do with it.

I am inclined to agree and have a bad feeling about how it may change the dynamics of the forum

Preacher
04-20-2007, 08:15 PM
Please clarify for me....

Unmoderaterated VS. Not under the authority of the moderaters...

I would think that if someone started flaming everyone else.. causing serious problems... that it would be copied into a PM.. and sent to a Mod who could then take appropriate actions...

is that not true?

In other words, the rules of the road still apply... there just won't be any ACTIVE MOD in the room themselves on official capacity!!!

Am I wrong??

tony hipchest
04-20-2007, 08:40 PM
Well good luck with that, sounds like you might need it.

I guess the thing is to clamp down heavily on any type of overspill into the main forum-

Whatever happens in Chatclub...stays in Chatclub.... :sofunny:

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h218/n_mckeown/brad_pitt_fight_club_001.jpghehehe. great analogy. i used to compare posting on the unmoderated version of sportsline's boards as going to "fightclub".

and really, thats what it became- a cyberfightclub. it got so bad the football boards were locked for over 6 months and then the baseball boards. the golf, nascar and soccer boards were absolutely ransacked and hijacked. golf, soccer, and nascar fans were literally ran off the site.

good times, good times.

tony hipchest
04-20-2007, 08:45 PM
I wouldn't want to miss any of Tony's witty remarks..

:cheers: no worries here. im not a fan of chatrooms, and like others, i really like the gameday threads we currently have. i probably wouldnt even visit a chatroom uless i caught wind there were some trolls in there and it was unmoderated (but of course, i really wouldnt want to garner a reputation as a rabble rouser :wink02: )

Stlrs4Life
04-20-2007, 09:18 PM
Not you tony.

fansince'76
04-21-2007, 12:14 AM
:cheers: no worries here. im not a fan of chatrooms, and like others, i really like the gameday threads we currently have. i probably wouldnt even visit a chatroom uless i caught wind there were some trolls in there and it was unmoderated (but of course, i really wouldnt want to garner a reputation as a rabble rouser :wink02: )

Sic 'em, Tony! :chuckle: