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tony hipchest
04-19-2007, 08:54 AM
did anyone notice this? lost in the hype and sensasionalizm of our countries worst mass murder, 183 people we could care less about but [our troops] are willing to die for, were killed yesterday. very strange is the american condition and how desensitized whe have become. if this happened in an underground rail in england or an fbi building in oklahoma, it would be swarmed by media coverage. however it happens in iraq it is barely noticed, and we simply shrug it off as just another typical day.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070419/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq;_ylt=AnFI_gHb_xb8Akc.BZbg1i3MWM0F




BAGHDAD - Grieving relatives retrieved bodies from hospital morgues Thursday, and passers-by gawked at the giant crater left by a market bomb in one of four attacks that killed 183 people on the bloodiest day since the U.S. troop increase began nine weeks ago.


But violence did not abate Thursday, as a suicide bomber exploded in another mostly Shiite district, killing at least 11 people and wounding 28, police said. The car bomb exploded next to a fuel tanker in Karradah, setting fire to the truck. The death toll was expected to rise.

Many of the more than 230 Iraqis killed or found dead nationwide a day earlier were buried in quiet ceremonies before Thursday's noon prayer, according to Muslim tradition. Other bodies lay in refrigeration containers, still unidentified, at morgues across Baghdad.

In Sadr City, relatives flocked to Imam Ali Hospital to claim the bodies of loved ones. A man held his shirt over his mouth and nose as he moved past decaying bodies. Nearby, four men loaded a casket onto a minibus.

The most devastating blast struck the Sadriyah market as workers were leaving for the day, charring a lineup of minibuses that came to pick them up. At least 127 people were killed and 148 wounded, including men who were rebuilding the market after a Feb. 3 bombing left 137 dead.

Livinginthe past
04-19-2007, 08:59 AM
Its an impossible situation in Iraq - and it continues to deteriorate at a rate of knots.

The desensitization to violent acts is definitely a huge worry.

Cape Cod Steel Head
04-19-2007, 09:00 AM
How's that "Surge" working out W?

83-Steelers-43
04-19-2007, 09:32 AM
That place has been one big cluster puck for some time now. I don't see things getting much better in that messed up region of the globe. I believe our hearts were in the right place (many disagree because they feel we are Nazi Germany, be happy we are not), but IMO, we should start pulling out and let that country/region decay much like it has been doing for many years. They want to blow each other up, let them.

It's horrible watching the news everyday and hearing about our boys getting killed for a nation/people that hate us. They are not worth it. If things were actually changing in that country I would be all for sticking it out and getting the job done, but things are not getting any better over there from what I've seen.

Wow, I don't know about anybody else, but I'm craving an Anna Nicole story. Let's at least get back to driving Imus off the planet. Come on!!! Where's our priorities?

tony hipchest
04-19-2007, 11:59 AM
Wow, I don't know about anybody else, but I'm craving an Anna Nicole story. Let's at least get back to driving Imus off the planet. Come on!!! Where's our priorities?funny. someone on the news yesterday was saying how if the imus story broke this week, he'd still have his job. also funny that this typical diatribe and rhetoric is passed off as "news" by "news" reporters. all part of the job by a talking head on cable i guess.

im just facinated how we are so horrified, mesmerized, riveted, to stories such as columbine, or tim mcveigh, or commuter trains being bombed in sequence, yet its like we are bored with any of the same stuff if it happens in iraq.

i guess this is more commentary than having a point but if there is one, we should probably feel a little lucky we dont have stuff like VT or the washington snipers happening 3-4 times a week like in other parts of the world.

Stlrs4Life
04-19-2007, 08:17 PM
How's that "Surge" working out W?


About as well as his entire presidency has worked out.

GBMelBlount
04-19-2007, 08:47 PM
Its an impossible situation in Iraq - and it continues to deteriorate at a rate of knots.

The desensitization to violent acts is definitely a huge worry.

Agreed.

GBMelBlount
04-19-2007, 08:59 PM
How's that "Surge" working out W?

What a shame, that the war that most of the democrats supported & Hillary Clintorious 100% supported based on her own "personal" information is running into problems. Now everyone runs & blames it on bush. Including Dems, MSNBC, NBC, ABC etc. No wonder Fox blows them away combined. The war may have been a mistake. By the way, waht will happen if we pull out of Iraq? In the vietnam war, did we lose any major conflicts? I heard we won the tet offensive? or whatever it was called by 50,000 killed to less than 5,000 of ours$? An enemy general was quoted as saying the Vietnam war was lost until the American media & Hanoi Jane stepped in. Then the media got involved & Jane Fonda & said it was too costly. We pulled out & MILLIONS were murdered. Never heard about that on the news, huh?

Stainless Steel
04-20-2007, 07:10 AM
The big problem is this IMHO:

Our enemy is playing a political war. They are choosing how we engage. They are choosing when to strike so that there is an article in our newspapers each day. They will be influencing the 2008 elections with their attacks.

Cape Cod Steel Head
04-20-2007, 08:17 AM
What a shame, that the war that most of the democrats supported & Hillary Clintorious 100% supported based on her own "personal" information is running into problems. Now everyone runs & blames it on bush. Including Dems, MSNBC, NBC, ABC etc. No wonder Fox blows them away combined. The war may have been a mistake. By the way, waht will happen if we pull out of Iraq? In the vietnam war, did we lose any major conflicts? I heard we won the tet offensive? or whatever it was called by 50,000 killed to less than 5,000 of ours$? An enemy general was quoted as saying the Vietnam war was lost until the American media & Hanoi Jane stepped in. Then the media got involved & Jane Fonda & said it was too costly. We pulled out & MILLIONS were murdered. Never heard about that on the news, huh?
The Dems in congress supported this war because they like the American public were lied to by the Bush admin. i.e. WMD's ( based one ONE persons testimony who was later found out to be lying)and Iraq's alleged support of Al Queida. Bush WANTED this war. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
04-20-2007, 12:05 PM
I agree it is just another typical day....
I was in Iraq for over a year.....
The Iraqis are never going to get along.........
Pull our troups out.......let them have their civil war.....once it is over only one side will be left to say what goes on and everything is solved.........Then maybe we can go in and help them rebuild........But know this.....as long as there are sunies and shiates living side by side.........there will be killings and what not...........

jjpro11
04-21-2007, 12:11 AM
the VT shooting was a bigger deal to americans because it hits directly home. iraq is iraq.. we have been hearing of the same suicide bombers and terrorists every week since we have been there. the only time americans actually care about a death in iraq is if its a soldier or another american. its sad, of course.. its just become a regularity now and we all pretty much expect it. the VT shooting was shocking and effects schools and people around this country.

j-dawg
04-21-2007, 12:30 PM
The war may have been a mistake. By the way, waht will happen if we pull out of Iraq? In the vietnam war, did we lose any major conflicts? I heard we won the tet offensive? or whatever it was called by 50,000 killed to less than 5,000 of ours$? An enemy general was quoted as saying the Vietnam war was lost until the American media & Hanoi Jane stepped in. Then the media got involved & Jane Fonda & said it was too costly. We pulled out & MILLIONS were murdered. Never heard about that on the news, huh?

man, you need to get informed on what happened in vietnam AND cambodia for that matter. might i suggest "decent interval" by frank snepp. i know reading a book by the CIA'S chief strategy analyst in vietnam might not be as appealing than watching fox news but i can't stand posts that suggest we might have won if somebody (like jane fonda :dang: ) or something (the media) had not done what they did. addressing failed policy does not lose wars. as for major conflicts, saigon fell to the NVA... they renamed it Ho Chi Minh City, check it out on google.

I heard this report on NPR the other day. Online Communities Focus on Student Shooting. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9626773
It talks about the horrible shootings that took place in Virginia at the beginning of the week and focuses on how myspace and other sites have become memorials to the victims of that fateful day. As if this is a new way of grieving... myspace has been a memorial for MANY of the young soldiers who have fallen in Iraq and there was no mention of this. To exclude this from the audience, many of whom are not members of these online communities, only further INSULATES the public from the war that is going on as you read this.

Why is the media so myopic? I'm still getting news alerts from the washington post about the shooting. I do not wish to trivialize the Virginia Tech shooting... I only wish that the media would be as diligent in reporting a war that has taken so many lives with no end in sight.

tony hipchest
04-21-2007, 01:01 PM
Why is the media so myopic? I'm still getting news alerts from the washington post about the shooting. I do not wish to trivialize the Virginia Tech shooting... I only wish that the media would be as diligent in reporting a war that has taken so many lives with no end in sight.great post j-dawg. this thread was more about how we, as americans, respond to such stories, as opposed to the stories or headlines themselves.

its sad to say but even if it were a 127 american soldiers killed in a terrorist attack in iraq, it wouldve just been another blurb that would be talked about for a day. we expect it, when we are at war. we expect our soldiers to die. yet we dont expect a police preceinct to be blown up here in the states.

unfortunately we are not at war. we are acting as a huge police force.

is it just normal to place more value in the life of a student than the life of a soldier?

Stlrs4Life
04-21-2007, 07:54 PM
What a shame, that the war that most of the democrats supported & Hillary Clintorious 100% supported based on her own "personal" information is running into problems. Now everyone runs & blames it on bush. Including Dems, MSNBC, NBC, ABC etc. No wonder Fox blows them away combined. The war may have been a mistake. By the way, waht will happen if we pull out of Iraq? In the vietnam war, did we lose any major conflicts? I heard we won the tet offensive? or whatever it was called by 50,000 killed to less than 5,000 of ours$? An enemy general was quoted as saying the Vietnam war was lost until the American media & Hanoi Jane stepped in. Then the media got involved & Jane Fonda & said it was too costly. We pulled out & MILLIONS were murdered. Never heard about that on the news, huh?


Yeah no kidding they supported it back then, when it was still a War, meaning Army vs Army. Now we are fighting basically a gorilla warfare where we don't have any idea on who or what our enemy looks like. And, I have said from the start, this is going to turn out to be another Viet Nam. Another senseless war. Yeah, a bunch were murdered after we left. Who cares, they weren't any more of our soldierrs or Marines. We will never bring peace or push democracy on them, there will never be peace over there. Fox news, couldn't blow there nose.

Stlrs4Life
04-21-2007, 07:56 PM
I agree it is just another typical day....
I was in Iraq for over a year.....
The Iraqis are never going to get along.........
Pull our troups out.......let them have their civil war.....once it is over only one side will be left to say what goes on and everything is solved.........Then maybe we can go in and help them rebuild........But know this.....as long as there are sunies and shiates living side by side.........there will be killings and what not...........


Excellent post!

Stlrs4Life
04-21-2007, 07:59 PM
is it just normal to place more value in the life of a student than the life of a soldier?


Very good question tony.