View Full Version : Kuhn and 6 others cut..9/3 Update: Jackson, St. Pierre, Schneck cut

09-02-2005, 03:37 PM

RB Kuhn among six Steelers players released

Associated Press

PITTSBURGH - Running back John Kuhn, who set four Pennsylvania State Athletic Conference records at NCAA Division II Shippensburg, was among six players released Friday by the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Also waived were punter Mike Barr, offensive tackle Ulish Booker, wide receiver Chris Collins, cornerback Janssen Patton and linebacker Ronald Stanley. Kuhn and Stanley were the only rookies.

The Steelers must make 12 more roster cuts by 6 p.m. Saturday, though they can later sign up to eight rookies or first-year players to their practice squad.

The 6-foot, 255-pound Kuhn carried six times for six yards in the Steelers' four exhibition games after gaining 4,685 yards and scoring 53 touchdowns at Shippensburg. Stanley, also a rookie free agent, played at Michigan State.

09-02-2005, 03:38 PM
I was really rooting for Kuhn, being a hometown boy...but he's got a goot shot at the PS.

09-02-2005, 05:11 PM
I am hoping they put Kuhn on the practice squad. He didn't really do anything to hurt himself. Plus, if Kreider goes down, we are left with just Haynes to play FB. I think.

09-02-2005, 05:40 PM
The guy's on the radio said Schneck,St Piere and Zo are cut. Zo cleaned out his locker today.

09-02-2005, 05:58 PM
Not surprised at all at this point by St. Pierre and Zo. We gave Jackson more than a fair shake, and he just never delivered. I knew when Batch played the entire 2nd half last night that we were either try to trade Batch or just cut St. Pierre. Now, the interesting thing will be, which team that we play this year will pull a Tom Coughlin and pick up Pierre just to pick his brain about our offense?

09-02-2005, 06:01 PM
They said it looks like Gibson's cut too. :o

09-02-2005, 06:04 PM
That IS surprising! WR competition this year was pretty tough, though. I bet he gets snatched up off waivers within 24 hours...

09-02-2005, 06:13 PM
well that is shit, i guess they don't want to have no one over 6'1" for ben to throw to. damn what a waste of a fourth round draft pick

09-02-2005, 06:14 PM
They said it looks like Gibson's cut too. :o

Wow, that is surprising. Where did you hear that? I thought he did pretty well this preseason.

09-02-2005, 06:17 PM
I hope he makes the team.... What a waste of a pick. :bonk:

09-02-2005, 06:18 PM
Wow, that is surprising. Where did you hear that? I thought he did pretty well this preseason.

Bob Labriola and the other guy's on fox 970 http://www.fox970.com/main.html click on listen live.

09-02-2005, 06:49 PM
We'll see if any more are cut as the websites update tonite at midnite. When Zo gets cut it'll be no surprise, he was worthless for the 3 years he's been here.. and that just opens up a spot for Frazier and/or Wallace even more.

Im telling ya, letting BSP go is a MISTAKE !!!

09-02-2005, 11:35 PM
and here it is.. Jackson, St. Pierre, Schneck cut


Linebacker Alonzo Jackson, quarterback Brian St. Pierre and longsnapper Mike Schneck are out.

Rookie free-agent wide receiver Nate Washington, of tiny Tiffin University, is in. Ditto for No. 3 quarterback Charlie Batch and rookie longsnapper Greg Warren.

The Steelers will officially announce their final 53-man roster by 6 p.m. today. Some who won't be part of the final roster are Jackson, St. Pierre, Schneck, punter Mike Barr, offensive tackle Ulish Booker, wide receiver Chris Collins, running back John Kuhn, cornerback Janssen Patton and linebacker Ronald Stanley.

Jackson, who was taken in the second round out of Florida State in 2003, had two unproductive years with the Steelers before the team decided Friday that it was time to part ways. He was inactive for 24 games in his brief Steelers career, and he totaled just three tackles and no sacks. His release did not come as a surprise.

The same can be said of St. Pierre, a fifth-round pick out of Boston College in '02 who had not completed a pass in an NFL game. He also was cut last year before the team re-signed him and placed him on the practice squad. He was beaten out for the third quarterback spot by Steel Valley High School grad Batch.

Last season, the Steelers kept only two quarterbacks -- starter Ben Roethlisberger and top backup Tommy Maddox.

As for Schneck, he knew the writing was on the wall in the preseason finale Thursday night in Carolina when he did not play. By cutting Schneck, a six-year vet who was the team's union rep last season, the Steelers will save about $300,000 under the salary cap with the rookie free-agent Warren in his place.

Schneck will become a free agent today at 6 p.m., unless the Steelers strike a trade for him.

"What are they going to get for me, a Snicker's Bar?" said Schneck, who is married and the father of a four-month-old son.

Schneck clearly was valuable to the Steelers since he arrived from Wisconsin six years ago. He earned a reputation around the league for his consistency and durability.

But the youthful -- and less expensive -- Warren won out this summer. Schneck, who lives four doors down from director of operations Kevin Colbert in the North Hills, has no hard feelings.

"Coach (Bill) Cowher was very positive, it wasn't anything I had done wrong," Schneck said. "But Greg did a great job. I can't predict how well he'll do, but to be honest, he reminds me of myself when I came in as a rookie. I think he has all the potential in the world. We just have to see if he lives up to the potential now."

Warren, who played with Steelers kicker Jeff Reed at North Carolina, faces some pressure, given the fact he'll be part of a team that's considered to be a Super Bowl contender.

"I had a great experience with the Steelers, and he has that chance now," Schneck said. "For me, I just have to deal with this and move on."

09-03-2005, 08:32 AM
I'm pretty surprised to see St. Pierre go. I thought the Steelers would either try to trade Batch or get rid of him. He did have an impressive game against the Panthers though.

09-03-2005, 08:33 AM
Batch has the expierence? Thats what I kind of get from the news that ST.Pierre was cut

09-03-2005, 08:46 AM
Thats the only reason to keep Batch..but I really thought since they had Tommy and since BSP had been around our system for 3 years now that he'd have a shot, especially cap wise. But looks like Batch makes it again.

09-03-2005, 10:15 AM
If you are needing to use your 3rd string QB, it's probably going to be late in the season, and on a playoff contending team, that's an awful lot of pressure for a QB with practically no experience...Batch has what? 60-70 NFL starts?

I think that's the main reason to keep him...

09-03-2005, 10:17 AM
Anf Mays' injury might be serious. So why would we cut Gibson and be short changed so to speak? I don't get it........

09-03-2005, 10:33 AM
I'm not real big on Mays. I rather see them keep Gibson.

09-03-2005, 12:19 PM
I'm not real big on Mays. I rather see them keep Gibson.

It's still speculation about Gibson but if they DO cut him it's worth remembering that the competition against him this year was pretty tough . . . Hines, El, Cedrick, Morey (who in the Carolina game was pretty useful as a receiver) and Nate Washington (a young receiver who has been better, and who has had to step up more than Gibson. Ok, Gibson is taller and everything, but looking at the Georgia message boards just after the drafts they were really divided about whether Gibson would ever cut it in the NFL (lapses in concentration, inconsistent play etc etc). I'd have loved to see them keep 6 WRs, but I also want them to keep 4 TEs, 6 RBs, 10 OL, 4 QB . . .

And if we do got to 4 and 5 WR sets we can always put Miller and Kranchick (as long as they don't cut him too) in there . . .

09-03-2005, 12:26 PM
Good point. I agree Nate Washinton was better. I really like that guy and he sure did come out of nowhere and impress. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens to Gibson.

09-04-2005, 11:03 AM
I know everyone is all over the Gibson cut, but this has been talked about for over a week now, he might have the tangibles, in size, speed, ability, but his intangibles were HORRIBLE, he has no idea how to come back for a ball or use his frame to keep defenders from getting their hands into the ball.

The cut that really shocked me was Schneck.....I mean to save 300k? I don't get that. The only positive I could take from it is that I did not know Warren was snapping the last game.....and it looked fine, so :-/ we'll see.

09-04-2005, 11:57 AM
I actually will miss Schneck. He is a pretty descent guy. I hope he lands a job some whjere.