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FastWillieParker39
04-28-2007, 09:59 PM
screw Bush lets get TONY HUNT!

pittsburghp8baller
04-28-2007, 09:59 PM
dam now we have to face the fastest guy in the draft twice this year on kick returns

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 10:02 PM
I would have taken Bush - I thought Atlanta would go RB and lever Warwick Dunn out of town. Maybe he ever gets traded soon?

jjpro11
04-28-2007, 10:02 PM
does everybody know bush has steel rods in his leg? jw

SteelerMurf
04-28-2007, 10:03 PM
dam now we have to face the fastest guy in the draft twice this year on kick returns

Didn't Ravens already have a great returner?

My Sporting News has this guy running a 4.4, that's not blazing.

SteelersTilIDie
04-28-2007, 10:03 PM
Falcons take Laurent Robinson, WR Illinois St.

MasterOfPuppets
04-28-2007, 10:03 PM
bush is there!

pittsburghp8baller
04-28-2007, 10:04 PM
wow didnt see that coming now its three receivers in a row

SteelerMurf
04-28-2007, 10:04 PM
does everybody know bush has steel rods in his leg? jw

Steel rod is fine if the leg is really healed correctly, but I thought I read he was having problems recently.


WOW, Steelers can't get sucked into this WR run......stay strong Pitt

SteelersTilIDie
04-28-2007, 10:04 PM
Didn't Ravens already have a great returner?

My Sporting News has this guy running a 4.4, that's not blazing.

first of all, that is blazing, second of all, he ran a 4.30 at the combine

jjpro11
04-28-2007, 10:04 PM
another wr! lol

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 10:04 PM
I thought Bush went to Atlanata LOL

pittsburghp8baller
04-28-2007, 10:05 PM
Didn't Ravens already have a great returner?

My Sporting News has this guy running a 4.4, that's not blazing.

he was recorded at either the combine or his pro day at 4.29

tony hipchest
04-28-2007, 10:05 PM
does everybody know bush has steel rods in his leg? jw = stronger leg.

i dont care if his a risk. i just wanna see the steelers take a risk.

weve already drafted huey richardson and alonzo jackson so why not?

jjpro11
04-28-2007, 10:05 PM
here we go

SteelersTilIDie
04-28-2007, 10:05 PM
Jason Hill is a prolific, fast, big, good handed receiver who is of great value to the 49res. Sometimes he drops passes and lets balls come to his chest instead of catching with his hands.

pittsburghp8baller
04-28-2007, 10:05 PM
he we go

Dynasty
04-28-2007, 10:06 PM
Steelers on the clock... will it be bush, will it be a CB, will it be a trade-down? It could go any way.

paw-n-maul-u
04-28-2007, 10:06 PM
steel rods equals stronger leg? ... u sure about that??? ... wouldnt steal rods be holding together a WEAK leg? maybe long term but i think thats a pretty bold statement ...

MasterOfPuppets
04-28-2007, 10:06 PM
don't take pitman...don't take pitman!!!

Dynasty
04-28-2007, 10:07 PM
Panthers are doin so well.

jjpro11
04-28-2007, 10:07 PM
oh come on!!!!!!

paw-n-maul-u
04-28-2007, 10:08 PM
ummm ... who?
... godddddddddddddddddd what a waste of a pick

OneForTheToe
04-28-2007, 10:08 PM
Wow, that's a shock

jjpro11
04-28-2007, 10:08 PM
wtf is that bs

Dynasty
04-28-2007, 10:08 PM
Steelers take Matt Spaeth.... horrible pick. He's a TE. Position of no need. Awful value. My god was that a bad move. He's only a blockin reciever.

SteelersTilIDie
04-28-2007, 10:08 PM
the good 'ole stillers choose Matt Spaeth, TE Minnesota. That doesn't make a lot of sense, he has good hands and is a good blocker, but they are set at TE with Heath and Tuman. Not a very educated pick here.

MasterOfPuppets
04-28-2007, 10:08 PM
what the f*****ck !!!!!!!! just what we needed!!! tomlin is a freakin idiot !!!!!!

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 10:08 PM
LOL

Back up TE in the 3rd round?

That sucks doesn't it?

Of all the needs the Steelers had.

C'mon Bush drop to the Patriots

SteelersTilIDie
04-28-2007, 10:09 PM
Wysilv, do you agree with this pick??

fansince'76
04-28-2007, 10:09 PM
A TE? Why? :dang:

SteelersTilIDie
04-28-2007, 10:10 PM
they should have drafted Daymeion Hughes because they are in need of a cornerback or something except Spaeth.

jjpro11
04-28-2007, 10:10 PM
**** this bullshit.. what the hell was that?? i was afraid they would make a weird pick like that today.

MasterOfPuppets
04-28-2007, 10:10 PM
:banging: :dang: :banging: :dang: :banging: :dang: :banging: bull shiiiiiiiiiiiit !!!!!!!!!!!

pittsburghp8baller
04-28-2007, 10:10 PM
well dont jump the gun on that. he is a good tight end. dont know how much loner tuman will play and having two tight ends isnt a bad thing. hes a good blocker but also a very good weapon in the redzone. now that gives ben another option on a playaction

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 10:10 PM
I think Bush will end up with kansas - if he doens't you have to wonder whats going on.

I'd love to hear Tony H.'s take on that Pittsburgh pick.

Big7BenHOF
04-28-2007, 10:10 PM
You've got to be kidding me. A tight end. We already have two.

>_>

SteelersTilIDie
04-28-2007, 10:10 PM
a random...stupid...not thoughout pick...not good for Tomlin in his first season...bad publicity

tony hipchest
04-28-2007, 10:10 PM
a freaking tight end? what a waste. "a safe solid pick" f- that. did someone take ben patrick? a tight end in the 3rd in one of the wakest class of tight ends recently???

unfreaking believable. why not just reach for a lineman????

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 10:11 PM
well dont jump the gun on that. he is a good tight end. dont know how much loner tuman will play and having two tight ends isnt a bad thing. hes a good blocker but also a very good weapon in the redzone. now that gives ben another option on a playaction

How many TE's you plan on having on the field?

Your #1 guy was massively under utilised last year - is he going to get pushed out by this years 3rd rounder?

That looks like a bad pick to me.

SteelCzar76
04-28-2007, 10:11 PM
Ohhhhhh,....this wacky Mike Tomlin.:sofunny: :sofunny: :sofunny: It just keeps getting better !

jjpro11
04-28-2007, 10:12 PM
im turning off the draft and watching the espn draftcast online.. uggghhhh why??!!

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 10:13 PM
5 WR's and a TE in last 6 picks?

Thats a run.

Jax must go offense again surely.

pittsburghp8baller
04-28-2007, 10:13 PM
because there are no good O-lineman left he is a good tight end could end up being our number two TE could be a good 1,2 punch

MasterOfPuppets
04-28-2007, 10:14 PM
so now we have another tightend to not use.....:dang:

pittsburghp8baller
04-28-2007, 10:15 PM
How many TE's you plan on having on the field?

Your #1 guy was massively under utilised last year - is he going to get pushed out by this years 3rd rounder?

That looks like a bad pick to me.

when you start getting inside the 15, put both of them out their and run a playaction, have both of them head to the endzone; boom a touchdown. wont be able to cover both

jjpro11
04-28-2007, 10:15 PM
because there are no good O-lineman left he is a good tight end could end up being our number two TE could be a good 1,2 punch

i wanted to get our 1,2 punch at RB first... not TE this early.

Edman
04-28-2007, 10:15 PM
Wait? What?

What a godawful pick. We already have a freaking Tight End! WTF? Just, just, terrible.

This singlehandedly spoiled what was turning out to be a terrific Day 1. Unless this Tight End can be be versatle to a Wide reciever, this is a waste. A complete waste.

MasterOfPuppets
04-28-2007, 10:15 PM
this is the worst 1st day i can remember!!!!! i'll give it a D

HometownGal
04-28-2007, 10:16 PM
so now we have another tightend to not use.....:dang:

That was my thought, MOP. The Steelers made little use of Heath Miller last season - what the hell are they doing here by drafting a TE so early when there are other areas of greater concern???? :dang:

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 10:16 PM
Another WR - Bush keeps falling.

Keep fallin, fallin Bush

pittsburghp8baller
04-28-2007, 10:17 PM
there are other running backs to be had; hunt, bush, pittman, my fav Ilaoa still there and others i cant remember

Dynasty
04-28-2007, 10:17 PM
i mean it's not as bad as people are saying, tuman is old. but i really am not liking this pick at all. we needed a cb or OL much more than a te

OneForTheToe
04-28-2007, 10:17 PM
I don't understand this pick, but I still like the first two. Hope for some O'linemen, a WR and maybe a big back tomorrow.

Time to pry myself off my chair. I've have been sitiing so long, I am stuck

pittsburghp8baller
04-28-2007, 10:17 PM
and Spaeth is the last of the top ranked tight ends

tony hipchest
04-28-2007, 10:17 PM
because there are no good O-lineman left he is a good tight end could end up being our number two TE could be a good 1,2 punchthe most retarded pick ive ever seen the steelers make.

who can we trade heath miller to and for what? i guess its not in our plans to resign him when his contract comes up. oh well, maybe we can throw tons of cash at faneca at his expense :dang:

Dynasty
04-28-2007, 10:18 PM
well i think im done for the night.... WySilv signing off

pittsburghp8baller
04-28-2007, 10:19 PM
the most retarded pick ive ever seen the steelers make.

who can we trade heath miller to and for what? i guess its not in our plans to resign him when his contract comes up. oh well, maybe we can throw tons of cash at faneca at his expense :dang:

what about us taking omar jacobs last year? there was no way he was goin to make that team; even cedric humes in the seventh round those were worse picks than this

MasterOfPuppets
04-28-2007, 10:20 PM
i mean it's not as bad as people are saying, tuman is old. but i really am not liking this pick at all. we needed a cb or OL much more than a te

farriors pretty freakin old too,so why not inside lber!!!!

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 10:22 PM
Another WR - amazing - im happy the Patriots are loaded - every team thats goes WR is a bonus.

Latest news - Patriots have offerd a 3rd rounder to Oakland for Moss.

Even later news - Patriots are out of the running for Moss.

Take your pick.

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 10:22 PM
what about us taking omar jacobs last year? there was no way he was goin to make that team; even cedric humes in the seventh round those were worse picks than this

7th rounders aren't supposed to make the team.

3rd rounders are.

fansince'76
04-28-2007, 10:23 PM
what about us taking omar jacobs last year? there was no way he was goin to make that team; even cedric humes in the seventh round those were worse picks than this

Unless Spaeth turns out to be the next Kellen Winslow (Sr.), this was a badly wasted pick.

SteelerMurf
04-28-2007, 10:23 PM
I really hate this pick, I mean I really hate this pick.

They are going 4 WR sets now right? So we go out and get a TE? Anyone, please help me feel good about this.

If we didn't have Heath Miller, I get excited about his pass catching abilities from viewing some highlights on yahoo, but come on why do we need this guy even in the 6th round?

tony hipchest
04-28-2007, 10:23 PM
and Spaeth is the last of the top ranked tight endswho took ben patrick? although he is more of a receiving tight end and it looks like we want blocking tight ends. this was the worst year to select a tight end in the 1st day. olson even fell to #31.

tony hipchest
04-28-2007, 10:25 PM
I really hate this pick, I mean I really hate this pick.

They are going 4 WR sets now right? So we go out and get a TE? Anyone, please help me feel good about this.

If we didn't have Heath Miller, I get excited about his pass catching abilities from viewing some highlights on yahoo, but come on why do we need this guy even in the 6th round?dont worry. maybe we'll cut him just like the TE we pissed away a draft pick on last year.

pittsburghp8baller
04-28-2007, 10:25 PM
Unless Spaeth turns out to be the next Kellen Winslow (Sr.), this was a badly wasted pick.

he wont be the next Kellen Winslow. but he will have a decent numbers
my predictions
10-15 receptions
100+ yards
3 TDs
lots of pancakes

MasterOfPuppets
04-28-2007, 10:27 PM
maybe he can play tackle and guard also.....:dang:

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 10:29 PM
Now im thinking Philly is the type of team to take a shot at Bush - they have two 3rd rounders and seem willing to take a risk.

Dynasty
04-28-2007, 10:30 PM
he's huge and a good blocker. I have a strange feeling that the steelers are gonna try and coach him into a tackle

btw, another good pick by carolina

MasterOfPuppets
04-28-2007, 10:31 PM
i've seen spaeth projected as 4-5th....:banging:

tony hipchest
04-28-2007, 10:32 PM
he wont be the next Kellen Winslow. but he will have a decent numbers
my predictions
10-15 receptions
100+ yards
3 TDs
lots of pancakesi woulda much rather taken a chance on m. bush and he be a complete flop. we coulda scraped mark breuner offa the bottom of someones shoe to reproduce those miniscule numbers.

i've seen spaeth projected as 4-5th....

:yep: and only that high cause its such a weak te class

MasterOfPuppets
04-28-2007, 10:32 PM
he's huge and a good blocker. I have a strange feeling that the steelers are gonna try and coach him into a tackle

btw, another good pick by carolina

a 270lb tackle???

Atlanta Dan
04-28-2007, 10:32 PM
the most retarded pick ive ever seen the steelers make.

who can we trade heath miller to and for what? i guess its not in our plans to resign him when his contract comes up. oh well, maybe we can throw tons of cash at faneca at his expense :dang:

But Miller is locked up for 5 years right? This is the sort of pick the mid-70s Steelers would make when they were 2 deep everywhere and did not need to worry about FA losses. For this Steelers team to make this pick is f***ing incomprehensible.

I hope Tomlin does not get a pass on this because "we need to give him a chance" - Steelers drafted a OLB and a tweener as top 2 picks to draft 1 need and a third pick to draft a backup for a position that is chronically underutilized. No effort to draft OL or RB - maybe Faneca not being moved means they think they have a plan to keep him or may just be in denial about that as well

Compare the Steelers lack of aggression or creative thinking today, culminating with this brain cramp, to the Browns draft today and weep as the first truly bad day of the Tomlin era comes to a close.

Maybe the kid asked Tomlin for his autograph when Tomlin attended a Gophers practice and this is payback.

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 10:33 PM
Coach a TE into a tackle?

When did that happen last?

Bush isn't even on the best of the rest list.

Injury must be worse than feared.

MasterOfPuppets
04-28-2007, 10:37 PM
lets hear some grades.....i had em at a c+ on the first 2 picks,then the bonehead 3rd....i'll give it a D !

tony hipchest
04-28-2007, 10:38 PM
he's huge and a good blocker. I have a strange feeling that the steelers are gonna try and coach him into a tackle

btw, another good pick by carolinathe thing that pisses me off is the steelers will take a te/tackle project in the 3rd round but would pass over a player like m. jones drew without even blinking. if they woulda drafted m. coulston last year, he woulda been one of the 1st players cut in camp.

Atlanta Dan
04-28-2007, 10:39 PM
Coach a TE into a tackle?

When did that happen last?

Bush isn't even on the best of the rest list.

Injury must be worse than feared.

70s Steelers converted Larry Brown from TE to tackle midway through the dynasty but I think Larry was taking a lot more than protein shakes when he miraculously bulked up - Steelers must have started drinking around 6 pm to come up with this pick tonight

tony hipchest
04-28-2007, 10:40 PM
stewart bradley to the eagles. an example of a good pick.

pittsburghp8baller
04-28-2007, 10:40 PM
im goin to give them a high high C+
would of liked to see them go corner but good picks with Timmons and Woodley. like the Spaeth pick as another redzone threat

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 10:42 PM
Bradley is a good pick, would have liekd to see him fall to the Patriots - 2nd round grade.

I always seem to like ravens and eagles picks - nice FO work.

pittsburghp8baller
04-28-2007, 10:42 PM
could NO take a kicker? whos theres right now? Crosby ranked up there pretty high

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 10:43 PM
70s Steelers converted Larry Brown from TE to tackle midway through the dynasty but I think Larry was taking a lot more than protein shakes when he miraculously bulked up - Steelers must have started drinking around 6 pm to come up with this pick tonight

Ouch :sofunny:

Thought it was just the fans who were kicking back with a beer on draft day!

msafford
04-28-2007, 10:44 PM
lets hear some grades.....i had em at a c+ on the first 2 picks,then the bonehead 3rd....i'll give it a D !

I'll be the first to admit that I said WTF when the 3rd round pick came across the screen. Reading about Spaeth's dedication and smarts and receiving skills, I had the thought that possibly they drafted him to use mostly as a receiver? think about a 6'7" guy going up against a little pu$$y DB in the redzone. Could be good. who knows? Then again, I'm a stinking music teacher, what do I know? :smile:

Atlanta Dan
04-28-2007, 10:44 PM
Here is the P-G reporting the official party line on this brilliant pick

New offensive coordinator Bruce Arians is, and this is no surprise, very pleased with the selection of Spaeth.

Arians is saying he wants to play more three tight ends and flex TE Heath Miller out into the slot more this season. He also likes Spaeth's ability to block and stretch the field as a receiver.

It seems the Steelers under Tomlin want more flexibility and the chance to change things around with different formations, both offensively and defensively. You heard that with Timmons and Spaeth an awful lot. If nothing else, it makes you curious about what they're thinking in the bunker that is the draft room.

And we'd still liked to have seen Tony Hunt with that pick.
http://www.post-gazette.com/steelers/blogngold/

Total bull****

pittsburghp8baller
04-28-2007, 10:45 PM
I'll be the first to admit that I said WTF when the 3rd round pick came across the screen. Reading about Spaeth's dedication and smarts and receiving skills, I had the thought that possibly they drafted him to use mostly as a receiver? think about a 6'7" guy going up against a little pu$$y DB in the redzone. Could be good. who knows? Then again, I'm a stinking music teacher, what do I know? :smile:

thats exactly what ive been saying

SteelCzar76
04-28-2007, 10:45 PM
lets hear some grades.....i had em at a c+ on the first 2 picks,then the bonehead 3rd....i'll give it a D !



To me it's shaping up to be the worst that my eyes have seen. It's like watching a family member commit ritual suicide.:dang:

fansince'76
04-28-2007, 10:46 PM
Here is the P-G reporting the official party line on this brilliant pick

New offensive coordinator Bruce Arians is, and this is no surprise, very pleased with the selection of Spaeth.

Arians is saying he wants to play more three tight ends and flex TE Heath Miller out into the slot more this season. He also likes Spaeth's ability to block and stretch the field as a receiver.

It seems the Steelers under Tomlin want more flexibility and the chance to change things around with different formations, both offensively and defensively. You heard that with Timmons and Spaeth an awful lot. If nothing else, it makes you curious about what they're thinking in the bunker that is the draft room.

And we'd still liked to have seen Tony Hunt with that pick.
http://www.post-gazette.com/steelers/blogngold/

Total bull****


Change is good....change is good....change is good....:banging:

OneForTheToe
04-28-2007, 10:47 PM
But Miller is locked up for 5 years right? This is the sort of pick the mid-70s Steelers would make when they were 2 deep everywhere and did not need to worry about FA losses. For this Steelers team to make this pick is f***ing incomprehensible.

I hope Tomlin does not get a pass on this because "we need to give him a chance" - Steelers drafted a OLB and a tweener as top 2 picks to draft 1 need and a third pick to draft a backup for a position that is chronically underutilized. No effort to draft OL or RB - maybe Faneca not being moved means they think they have a plan to keep him or may just be in denial about that as well

Compare the Steelers lack of aggression or creative thinking today, culminating with this brain cramp, to the Browns draft today and weep as the first truly bad day of the Tomlin era comes to a close.

Maybe the kid asked Tomlin for his autograph when Tomlin attended a Gophers practice and this is payback.


I agree with most of that except I think the jury is still out on the Steelers draft with the second day before us. As for the Browns, they got some great players but they also gave up a lot of the future to get them.

MasterOfPuppets
04-28-2007, 10:48 PM
Here is the P-G reporting the official party line on this brilliant pick

New offensive coordinator Bruce Arians is, and this is no surprise, very pleased with the selection of Spaeth.

Arians is saying he wants to play more three tight ends and flex TE Heath Miller out into the slot more this season. He also likes Spaeth's ability to block and stretch the field as a receiver.
It seems the Steelers under Tomlin want more flexibility and the chance to change things around with different formations, both offensively and defensively. You heard that with Timmons and Spaeth an awful lot. If nothing else, it makes you curious about what they're thinking in the bunker that is the draft room.

And we'd still liked to have seen Tony Hunt with that pick.
http://www.post-gazette.com/steelers/blogngold/

Total bull****
THATS FUNNY...the guys on tv said he's too slow to stretch the field!

jjpro11
04-28-2007, 10:50 PM
can any of these guys actually step right in and help us now?
timmons is very raw and underweight.
woodley wont be fully utilized unless we start using 4-3/3-4.
spaeth... i have no idea.

well there goes tony hunt.. goes to the other PA team.. ****

fansince'76
04-28-2007, 10:50 PM
As for the Browns, they got some great players but they also gave up a lot of the future to get them.

Agreed - still not sold on Quinn as a can't-miss prospect either.

tony hipchest
04-28-2007, 10:51 PM
But Miller is locked up for 5 years right? This is the sort of pick the mid-70s Steelers would make when they were 2 deep everywhere and did not need to worry about FA losses. For this Steelers team to make this pick is f***ing incomprehensible.

I hope Tomlin does not get a pass on this because "we need to give him a chance" - Steelers drafted a OLB and a tweener as top 2 picks to draft 1 need and a third pick to draft a backup for a position that is chronically underutilized. No effort to draft OL or RB - maybe Faneca not being moved means they think they have a plan to keep him or may just be in denial about that as well

Compare the Steelers lack of aggression or creative thinking today, culminating with this brain cramp, to the Browns draft today and weep as the first truly bad day of the Tomlin era comes to a close.

Maybe the kid asked Tomlin for his autograph when Tomlin attended a Gophers practice and this is payback.

:sofunny: wow. thats rough :sofunny:

luckily we do have miller locked up on the cheap for 2 more years. with salary cap hell soon appraoching and what seems as the steelers obvious goals of throwing a kings ransom at faneca, thats a good thing too. maybe we are intentionally padding millers numbers down like the patriots do to watson, in hopes of keeping him beyond his rookie contract, but in todays free spending mindset, i think even the dumbest teams will see through that.

about 20 teams can be credited for a more innovative and proactive draft. i admire tomlin, going into this like hes taking over the sb champs, rather than an 8-8 team. he's obviously betting on himself as being the missing link. i hope hes right. the rooneys obviously think he is or i think it woulda been grimm or whiz hired. (i like what arizona has done so far)

pittsburghp8baller
04-28-2007, 10:51 PM
i think of the three spaeth will have the most impact; then probably woodley. thats of course this year in a couple years woodley and timmons are goin to be some sick players

MasterOfPuppets
04-28-2007, 10:52 PM
i'd be less pissed off if they would have taken punter adem podlesh at 3rd!! at least we need a fu#*@ng kicker!!!!!!!!

ChronoCross
04-28-2007, 10:52 PM
Cannot really grade the draft until down the line a few years to see who and what did this and that on the field and if that player made the team and if that player did not.. There is no reason to throw grades out there now.. Its a coaching overhaul, they have there design and what there going to do with the team so who knows.. But hey I was like WTF also.. That gives us what 5 TEs now.. 2 of them will be gone.. I only see us carrying 3 TEs..

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 10:52 PM
Well there goes Hunt.

I thought they would go big back - Buckhalter is done in Philly.

SteelCzar76
04-28-2007, 10:53 PM
70s Steelers converted Larry Brown from TE to tackle midway through the dynasty but I think Larry was taking a lot more than protein shakes when he miraculously bulked up - Steelers must have started drinking around 6 pm to come up with this pick tonight



Nah the organization started drinking around 9am this morning and have yet to sober up. But come monday morning they're going to need to shower while sobbing in the fetal position with a deep sense of regret. As Tomlin and Colbert give each high fives about their prowess ! :sofunny:

SteelCityMan786
04-28-2007, 10:56 PM
I give a solid B. The defensive guys were great. HOWEVER the Tight End Matt Spaeth doesn't satisfy me as much BUT, he can do some good for big 3rd Downs such as ones we need to go deep on.

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 10:56 PM
Hmmm - New England traded pick to oakland..whatever can that mean?

Atlanta Dan
04-28-2007, 10:58 PM
I agree with most of that except I think the jury is still out on the Steelers draft with the second day before us. As for the Browns, they got some great players but they also gave up a lot of the future to get them.

I think the Browns coaches and front office figure if they do not get it done in 2007 there is not going to be a 2008 for them - they got both their 2007 and 2008 #1 picks today.

Maybe the TE pick is part of the Steelers throwback celebration of the past 75 years. The P-G had an article on how in the 40s and 50s teams would draft local players because they saw them play - perhaps Tomlin saw a lot of Gophers games and wanted to draft someone to bring a little piece of the Land of 10,000 Lakes to Pittsburgh with him.

I know I am grasping at straws here but if anyone can come up with a more plausible explanation I would love to read it.

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 10:59 PM
My draft tracker has gone wacky - Oakland have disappeared from #91 and Buffalo are sat there.

Weird

MasterOfPuppets
04-28-2007, 11:00 PM
Cannot really grade the draft until down the line a few years to see who and what did this and that on the field and if that player made the team and if that player did not.. There is no reason to throw grades out there now.. Its a coaching overhaul, they have there design and what there going to do with the team so who knows.. But hey I was like WTF also.. That gives us what 5 TEs now.. 2 of them will be gone.. I only see us carrying 3 TEs.. one only had to watch last years games and look at the payroll to see what our problems and future needs are. TE is not one of them. especially a TE that would have been on the board in the 4th.

tony hipchest
04-28-2007, 11:00 PM
I give a solid B. The defensive guys were great. HOWEVER the Tight End Matt Spaeth doesn't satisfy me as much BUT, he can do some good for big 3rd Downs such as ones we need to go deep on. hes 270 lbs and runs a 4.83. hes better off going deep on the buffet line so we can turn him int a tackle or somethin. we have heath to go deep and dont even use him. what about wilson or washington going deep?

tony hipchest
04-28-2007, 11:03 PM
Hmmm - New England traded pick to oakland..whatever can that mean? it means i told you so.:chuckle:

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 11:03 PM
Buffalo have 4 Qb's now - that sounds like a cluster fcuk.

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 11:04 PM
it means i told you so.:chuckle:

LOL :wink02:

Latest i hear - we have Oaklands 3rd next year and anoher 7th this year.

Its all 2nd day for the patriots.

You'd think Oakland or the 49ers will be bad again next year - maybe both.

ChronoCross
04-28-2007, 11:05 PM
one only had to watch last years games and look at the payroll to see what our problems and future needs are. TE is not one of them. especially a TE that would have been on the board in the 4th.

Never know if he would of been there in the 4th are 5th.. who knows.. I did not think we would even take a TE this draft. Like others, we did not use Miller like we did the season before so why go out and get another TE when we have so many TEs and other pressing needs.. That is one crazy pick..

jjpro11
04-28-2007, 11:05 PM
there goes hughes

SteelCityMan786
04-28-2007, 11:06 PM
Buffalo have 4 Qb's now - that sounds like a cluster fcuk.

Stuff is screwed in buffalo

Livinginthe past
04-28-2007, 11:08 PM
Daymeion Hughes is a nice cover 2 CB for Indy - doesn't need great pace keeps everything in front of him.

Dynasty
04-28-2007, 11:08 PM
I hope we get a good pick next day to make up for the horrible 3rd rounder. If a good CB or OL is available, that's who we need to take!

OneForTheToe
04-28-2007, 11:09 PM
Hey the dolts finally went defense (CB) Daymeion Hughes. Maybe they are going to switch him to wide receiver.

pittsburghp8baller
04-28-2007, 11:13 PM
i like that pick by chicago earlier with garrett wolfe hes a good running back.

jjpro11
04-28-2007, 11:14 PM
I hope we get a good pick next day to make up for the horrible 3rd rounder. If a good CB or OL is available, that's who we need to take!

beekman, datish, mozes? freakin michal bush!?

jjpro11
04-28-2007, 11:14 PM
i like that pick by chicago earlier with garrett wolfe hes a good running back.

i had my eye on him too.. never thought he would go this high though.

Edman
04-28-2007, 11:16 PM
Day 1 gets a B-. It was an A, but that very, very bad pick killed it...badly.

pittsburghp8baller
04-28-2007, 11:16 PM
yea i didnt think he would make it to day 1

Atlanta Dan
04-28-2007, 11:24 PM
Spaeth also is coming off shoulder surgery and did not attend the combine. It is as if they made this pick based upon reading Street & Smith's preview of the 2006 college football season.

Here are some excerpts from a scouting report:

More of a short-area target due to his imposing size, but also because of his marginal speed that makes him a liability in deep routes … Little too stiff in his hips to generate fluid lateral movement and is best when running straight-line routes than when having to cut and redirect … Would like to see him get more aggressive when having to take on defenders as a blocker and his overall strength needs to be improved ... Struggles vs. the larger defenders when he fails to get his hands up quickly to push off his opponent


2006: Suffered a Grade-2 right shoulder separation in fall camp, but played most of the season with the injury … Re-injured the shoulder in the second quarter on a 1-yard catch vs. North Dakota State and had to be helped off the field. Was expected to miss the rest of the season, but only sat out the Ohio State game before returning for the final three regular-season games … Missed the Insight Bowl to undergo surgery on the shoulder (Grade-5) on Nov. 21.

2007: Did not participate in the workouts at the Scouting Combine due to recovery from his shoulder surgery.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/players/draft/421347

The claims coming from Arians about this guy are crap.

X-Terminator
04-28-2007, 11:27 PM
You know, I'm one of the first people who speaks out about the impatience of Steelers fans and not giving people a chance...but what in the blue hell was Tomlin and Colbert thinking by drafting yet another TE, and in the 3rd frickin round at that? You can draft "versatile TEs" in the later rounds, for crying out loud! The team is still weak at OL and LB...hello??!! I do not understand that move at all. I have no problem with either of their first 2 picks, but this one just blew my mind!

fansince'76
04-28-2007, 11:27 PM
I wonder what they'll do for an encore tomorrow - QB in the 4th? Would make as much sense as the TE in the third. :dang:

tony hipchest
04-28-2007, 11:38 PM
LOL :wink02:

Latest i hear - we have Oaklands 3rd next year and anoher 7th this year.

Its all 2nd day for the patriots.

You'd think Oakland or the 49ers will be bad again next year - maybe both.mike mayock on the nfl channel says he thinks moss will go to the pats for a 5th or 6th rounder. the pats obviously didnt need their 2nd 1st, or their 3rd, and most definitely dont need a 5th or 6th tomorrow. they are set to rebuild even when they dont need to rebuild, and can set aside all the parts they need for the future. passing on chris houson looks to be a great move now (as does anyone else they passed on with the #28 pick).

now they can let a. samuel walk next year and save an additional $8 mil or so in cap. i dont think faneca is that integral to the steelers making a sb push in 07, and i wouldve much rather seen them take a page from the patriots book and position themselves for success in the future.

oh well, maybe we can pick up caldwell or gafney off the FA wire, and hope they turn into the next cedric wilson :rolleyes:

tony hipchest
04-28-2007, 11:41 PM
I wonder what they'll do for an encore tomorrow - QB in the 4th? Would make as much sense as the TE in the third. :dang:
maybe we'll trade our 4th rounder to get omar jacobs back :dang::banging: :jawdrop:

MasterOfPuppets
04-28-2007, 11:47 PM
i think every pick was a reach. after timmons the next lber wasn't taken till 25 so i don't think anyone valued him near as much as tomlin............... lamarr woodly.....i hope ole dicky can figure out how to use him....:dang:

He got way too much credit for a few huge games early on last season, but was non-existent when the lights went on against Ohio State and USC to close out the year. He isn't all that big for an end and doesn't have nearly enough speed or athleticism to be a regular linebacker, but he has a good motor and will work his way into the starting lineup. He's the definition of a tweener who doesn't quite fit in anywhere.

and spaeth was projected as a 4th-5th rder.

Excellent size, terrific hands, smart player, tough as nails, no speed or athleticism. He'll fight his way onto the roster by catching everything that comes his way over the middle, but he's not going to show enough raw skills to be a featured target.

tony hipchest
04-28-2007, 11:48 PM
unfortunately the falcons have 3 4th round picks tomorrow and will draft anyone we have on target, whether it be bush or even manny ramirez who would look great sitting on our bench for the next 3 years.

tony hipchest
04-28-2007, 11:53 PM
i think every pick was a reach. after timmons the next lber wasn't taken till 25 so i don't think anyone valued him near as much as tomlin............... lamarr woodly.....i hope ole dicky can figure out how to use him....:dang:

He got way too much credit for a few huge games early on last season, but was non-existent when the lights went on against Ohio State and USC to close out the year. He isn't all that big for an end and doesn't have nearly enough speed or athleticism to be a regular linebacker, but he has a good motor and will work his way into the starting lineup. He's the definition of a tweener who doesn't quite fit in anywhere.

and spaeth was projected as a 4th-5th rder.

Excellent size, terrific hands, smart player, tough as nails, no speed or athleticism. He'll fight his way onto the roster by catching everything that comes his way over the middle, but he's not going to show enough raw skills to be a featured target.
i agree. why did the jets deal with carolina instead of us for revis (trading for #15 shoulda been slightly cheaper than dealing for #15). did tomlin f- it all up by showing how much he loved him? someone screwed up that deal. that extra pick coulda translated into kalil, or jarrett, both who could be solid starters for years to come. atleast we got a tight end!!!

fansince'76
04-28-2007, 11:53 PM
and spaeth was projected as a 4th-5th rder.

Excellent size, terrific hands, smart player, tough as nails, no speed or athleticism. He'll fight his way onto the roster by catching everything that comes his way over the middle, but he's not going to show enough raw skills to be a featured target.

Not to mention the absolute stud we already have at TE in Heath who still hasn't been used effectively since he was drafted. This pick was more than a reach, it was a complete waste.

MasterOfPuppets
04-28-2007, 11:58 PM
why do the giants bengals and packers,pick in front of us in the 4th?

Stlrs4Life
04-28-2007, 11:58 PM
Yeah, I don't understand the TE pick either. Maybe it's mandatory that the Steelers draft a TE every year.

Preacher
04-29-2007, 12:02 AM
WHAT IF.....

Now, I like the rest of us is trying figure out what in the WORLD Tomlin, Colbert, and comp. are trying to do with a TE in the third round....

But with his size, just okay speed... but ability to catch the ball... is it possible that he will be moved to fullback... Kreider is getting OLD>

MasterOfPuppets
04-29-2007, 12:04 AM
WHAT IF.....

Now, I like the rest of us is trying figure out what in the WORLD Tomlin, Colbert, and comp. are trying to do with a TE in the third round....

But with his size, just okay speed... but ability to catch the ball... is it possible that he will be moved to fullback... Kreider is getting OLD>
a 6-7,270 lb fullback? not athletic enough

fansince'76
04-29-2007, 12:09 AM
a 6-7,270 lb fullback? not athletic enough

Just athletic enough to get in Willie's way on interior running plays....

MasterOfPuppets
04-29-2007, 12:12 AM
why do the giants bengals and packers,pick in front of us in the 4th?
anyone gonna field this one?

steel58
04-29-2007, 12:15 AM
I like most here am questioning this whole draft. The coolest thing about the draft was that James Harrison was at a restaurant in Cincinnati signing autographs. He seemed really ccol. I was afraid to even look his way after the selection of Timmons. After getting home, watching the rest on TV, the only thing I can come up with is this:
1. We are going to have some serious studs on special teams
2. The defense will be relentless by having an 8 linebacker rotation. They will never get tired and blitz in so many ways never before seen by man.
3. They are going to run some seriously bizarre short yardage and goaline plays; either a 6-7 fullback or someone that can finally outreach defenders in the endzone.

Maybe we can get Michael Bush by some miracle, then have that Saints type backfield on occasion and get Troy Smith and have that 3 QB option type play when we had Randle El. Hopefully we can get at least one OL and one DB in this draft.

tony hipchest
04-29-2007, 12:17 AM
why do the giants bengals and packers,pick in front of us in the 4th?because we already wasted our 4th round pick on a TE :hunch:

oh wait, that was our 3rd. jordan palmer is gonna look nice in the black and gold, huh?

i dont think it matters that the giants, bungles, and packers are in front of us. our 4th rounders will likely be busts who will be cut. we do need a new fat sweatsuit model for on the sidelines though.:coffee:

MasterOfPuppets
04-29-2007, 12:24 AM
because we already wasted our 4th round pick on a TE :hunch:

oh wait, that was our 3rd. jordan palmer is gonna look nice in the black and gold, huh?

i dont think it matters that the giants, bungles, and packers are in front of us. our 4th rounders will likely be busts who will be cut. we do need a new fat sweatsuit model for on the sidelines though.:coffee:

:sofunny: you sound as pissed off as i am...

fansince'76
04-29-2007, 12:27 AM
i dont think it matters that the giants, bungles, and packers are in front of us. our 4th rounders will likely be busts who will be cut. we do need a new fat sweatsuit model for on the sidelines though.:coffee:

Well, if Starks comes in hefting 400+ lbs and begins playing the 'human turnstile" again, he gets my vote. :chuckle:

tony hipchest
04-29-2007, 12:27 AM
:sofunny: you sound as pissed off as i am...all the year long anticipation of santa clause coming for christmas, and we get a pair of socks.

not even underoos. just a pair of socks. not a six pack of socks... but a single pair of unwrapped pre worn socks. :dang:

tony hipchest
04-29-2007, 12:29 AM
Well, if Starks comes in hefting 400+ lbs and begins playing the 'human turnstile" again, he gets my vote. :chuckle:atleast we drafted a fat tight end to replace him and prove weve been wasting 3rd round selections for several years. :dang:

MACH1
04-29-2007, 12:38 AM
OK. missed the last pick. WTF with the TE??

MasterOfPuppets
04-29-2007, 12:40 AM
all the year long anticipation of santa clause coming for christmas, and we get a pair of socks.

not even underoos. just a pair of socks. not a six pack of socks... but a single pair of unwrapped pre worn socks. :dang:

yup,i hear ya. i wasn't to excited about the timmons pick,but i thought hey there's still guys i like in the second....then woodley? kalil was money at 2!!! and solved an oline issue!dump okolbi,keep mahan at guard ... trade simmons or faneca or both. well then in 3 , no problem were gettin value with hunt or bush!:banging:

tony hipchest
04-29-2007, 12:43 AM
tomorrows draft selections are probably gonna resemble all the coaches tomlin brought in to re-assemble his staff.

without looking it up can anyone name the new o-line coach, rb coach, and st coach?

every team knows we need ATLEAST ONE running back, and just about every team has proven to make a trade to get a player they want. so we can expect any player we have high on our board to be selected a few spots before we draft. or we can just trade next years 2nd for the hawaii back (hes not the next bettis but could very well be the next john kuhn! woohoo!).

MACH1
04-29-2007, 12:47 AM
kind of seems like were wasting picks for a lot of backups. imo

fansince'76
04-29-2007, 12:50 AM
OK. missed the last pick. WTF with the TE??

You tell me and then we'll both know. :hunch:

MasterOfPuppets
04-29-2007, 01:00 AM
kind of seems like were wasting picks for a lot of backups. imo
bingo!!!! its a good thing we don't need olinemen or a good 3rd reciever,or a better compliment rb for parker or a stud DE to run that 4-3.....or we wouldn't have the luxery to get an undersized olber who can't shed a block....or an undersized DE who's to slow to be an olber....or a big TE to go along with our other 4 TE's :dang: but hey!!! they all have real good motors!!

tony hipchest
04-29-2007, 01:01 AM
OK. missed the last pick. WTF with the TE??we spent a #1 pick on a TE 2 years ago, and its time to re-tool. or maybe we are anticipating miller leaving like d. graham left the patriots. dallas took a. fazano w/ the 2nd pick last year. maybe we are trying to be ahead of the curve like them. or maybe as we pay players like d. staley or c. wilson, we can save several 100 thousand by cutting tuman. :hunch:

the sky is not falling but this player coulda been picked up in the 4th round. if not...oh well.

MACH1
04-29-2007, 01:06 AM
We need to try and keep miller if at all possible. But to start retooling this year to isnt good.

MasterOfPuppets
04-29-2007, 01:08 AM
We need to try and keep miller if at all possible. But to start retooling this year to isnt good.

we needed to retool...but it was the line that needed it...

fansince'76
04-29-2007, 01:10 AM
we needed to retool...but it was the line that needed it...

And apparently all the O-linemen available that were worth a damn are pretty much all gone now.

MACH1
04-29-2007, 01:10 AM
we needed to retool...but it was the line that needed it...

That is true. O line did suck

MasterOfPuppets
04-29-2007, 01:16 AM
And apparently all the O-linemen available that were worth a damn are pretty much all gone now.
they let kalil go for a " project ".

fansince'76
04-29-2007, 01:21 AM
It seems to me the 3 players we drafted can all be considered "projects" at this point. I'm disappointed, but it's not the end of the world, either - we've had bum drafts before. I just hope Tomlin and Colbert make wiser choices tomorrow.

SteelCzar76
04-29-2007, 01:24 AM
bingo!!!! its a good thing we don't need olinemen or a good 3rd reciever,or a better compliment rb for parker or a stud DE to run that 4-3.....or we wouldn't have the luxery to get an undersized olber who can't shed a block....or an undersized DE who's to slow to be an olber....or a big TE to go along with our other 4 TE's :dang: but hey!!! they all have real good motors!!




(Bill Paxton in 'Aliens':) "Yeah man,.....but it's a dry heat"

fansince'76
04-29-2007, 01:25 AM
(Bill Paxton in 'Aliens':) "Yeah man,.....but it's a dry heat"

"We're all gonna die, man!" :sofunny:

MasterOfPuppets
04-29-2007, 01:25 AM
It seems to me the 3 players we drafted can all be considered "projects" at this point. I'm disappointed, but it's not the end of the world, either - we've had bum drafts before. I just hope Tomlin and Colbert make wiser choices tomorrow.
yeah we have,but not with so many starters on the verge of exiting,and with no clear cut way to plug the holes.

SteelCzar76
04-29-2007, 01:36 AM
"We're all gonna die, man!" :sofunny:




:toofunny: And i share your sentiments about this being a bum Draft so far 76. And i really don't see what can be done to salvage it on the second day. (given the obvious mindset of Tomlin and Colbert) I'm just curious as to whether or not anyone in our War Room said "WTF,...two PROJECT linebackers and a TE on day one ?" LOL

But with that said,... just gotta cowboy the Fook up. :helmet:

tony hipchest
04-29-2007, 01:38 AM
yeah we have,but not with so many starters on the verge of exiting,and with no clear cut way to plug the holes.with faneca, simmons, starks, polamalu, and ward potentially leaving or getting cut, we werent gonna plug the holes in this draft anyways. not without trading for more picks.

maybe we will go for broke and pay the 5 players listed above 1/3 of our salary cap and have a fire sale the following year. 3 years of drafting in the top 10 may get us on the right path like the titans, jets, 49ers or saints. :rolleyes: hell it has made the chargers into one of the most talented teams out there.

fansince'76
04-29-2007, 01:38 AM
:toofunny: And i share your sentiments about this being a bum Draft so far 76. And i really don't see what can be done to salvage it on the second day. (given the obvious mindset of Tomlin and Colbert) I'm just curious as to whether or not anyone in our War Room said "WTF,...two PROJECT linebackers and a TE on day one ?" LOL

But with that said,... just gotta cowboy the Fook up. :helmet:

Yeah, but like MOP said, "they all have great motors!" :chicken:

MasterOfPuppets
04-29-2007, 01:47 AM
Yeah, but like MOP said, "they all have great motors!" :chicken:
i said...real good motors...not great :sofunny:

fansince'76
04-29-2007, 01:48 AM
i said...real good motors...not great :sofunny:

Sorry, my bad.... :dang: :chuckle:

SteelCzar76
04-29-2007, 01:50 AM
Yeah, but like MOP said, "they all have great motors!" :chicken:



Your right. I had forgot all about that. Apparently this will go a long way towards them 'playing like their hair is on fire' for Tomlin as they 'bust'. (Or at least attempt to look hot for the ladies modeling sweatsuits from the sidelines.) LMAO

MasterOfPuppets
04-29-2007, 01:55 AM
with faneca, simmons, starks, polamalu, and ward potentially leaving or getting cut, we werent gonna plug the holes in this draft anyways. not without trading for more picks.

maybe we will go for broke and pay the 5 players listed above 1/3 of our salary cap and have a fire sale the following year. 3 years of drafting in the top 10 may get us on the right path like the titans, jets, 49ers or saints. :rolleyes: hell it has made the chargers into one of the most talented teams out there.

but look at all the comp picks we'll get!! :thumbsup:

tony hipchest
04-29-2007, 02:10 AM
but look at all the comp picks we'll get!! :thumbsup: :rolleyes: lol.

lets see.... the patriots possibly turn a 4th round comp pick (by kicking d. branch to the curb that is known as seattle) into a mid 1st rounder PLUS randy moss (potentially).

the steelers wouldnt even consider taking on a player like moss or their 1st round pick (merriweather) this year.

at least we got a squeaky clean image though! :thumbsup:

Mosca
04-29-2007, 08:06 AM
I was working all day, and didn't get a chance to comment; I'm not going to read all 40 pages, but here's what I think.


I love the first two picks.

Timmons was the first round guy we wanted all along, either him or Revis were a tossup.

Woodley was Big 10 Defensive Player of the Year. One thing that you can't measure is desire. IMO he's got it. Another great pick, IMO.

No way Spaeth stays a tight end. He puts on 50 lbs and at 6'7" 307 goes to the HOF as a tackle, 15 years from now.

That's what I love about draft day; since no one has taken a snap, or even shown up in camp yet, they can ALL be saviors!


Tom

SteelerMurf
04-29-2007, 09:42 AM
I bet you guys talk like this after every draft.

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-29-2007, 09:43 AM
Pick #1
Lawrence Timmons Outside Linebacker- Florida State #83
Height: 6-0 7/8
Weight: 234 lbs.
Forty Time: 4.59 Combine
Stats:
2004: 12 TK 0 SK 0 FF 0 INT
2005: 35 TK 3 SK 2 FF 0 INT
2006: 79 TK 5 SK 0 FF 1 INT

Analysis
Lawrence Timmons took over at strong side linebacker last year after they Seminoles lost Ernie Sims to the NFL. Timmons has a good combination of size, speed, and athleticism for a linebacker. He is an aggressive player with the range to make plays all over the field. He is an effective pass rusher with good closing speed getting to the quarterback. He has the ability to cover tight ends and running backs coming out of the backfield. He can be a bit overaggressive at times, causing him to miss the occasional open field tackle. He is a bit on the slim side and he will have problems getting off blocks at times. He would benefit from bulking up and increasing his strength at the next level. He only has one full year of starting experience under his belt and he still has some improvements to make when it comes to technique. Lawrence Timmons is a versatile player who saw action at strong side linebacker and defensive end at Florida State. Due to his lack of bulk and strength, he projects as a weak side linebacker in the NFL. He would’ve benefited from staying in school for his senior season, but his potential cannot be ignored. He has a ton of upside and should be a first or second round pick in the 2007 NFL draft.

Pick #2
LaMarr Woodley DE/OLB- Michigan
Height: 6-1 1/2
Weight: 266 lbs.
Forty Time: 4.74 Pro Day

Stats:
2003: 23 TK 2 SK 0 FF
2004: 70 TK 4 SK 3 FF
2005: 48 TK 5 SK 3 FF

Analysis
LaMarr Woodley is an extremely versatile player who has started at both defensive end and outside linebacker for the Michigan Wolverines over the past four years. He is a hard worker with a non-stop motor. He has a good combination of size and strength. He is very strong at the point of attack and does a good job of shedding blocks and getting to the ballcarrier. He makes plays all over the field and excels at making tackles in the open. He lacks great straight line speed, but he has excellent short area quickness making him a superb pass rusher off the edge. He would benefit from improving his technique and developing a larger range of pass rush moves at the next level. LaMarr is a bit of a “tweener” who doesn’t have a clear position in the NFL. He lacks ideal height for a defensive end and he lacks ideal speed for a linebacker. He would probably fit in best as an outside linebacker in a 3-4 defensive scheme. LaMarr Woodley is a versatile player who could be used at defensive end or linebacker depending on which team drafts him. He is one of the best pass rushers in the draft which is something NFL scouts put a premium on. With more teams going to the 3-4 these days, LaMarr could be a hot commodity on draft day and he has a chance to be selected in the first round of the 2007 NFL draft.

Pick #3
Matt Spaeth Tight End - Minnesota #89
Height: 6-7 1/8
Weight: 270 lbs.
Forty Time: 4.81 Pro Day

Stats:
2002: Redshirt
2003: 12 REC 98 YDS 0 TD
2004: 24 REC 298 YDS 4 TD
2005: 26 REC 333 YDS 4 TD
2006: 47 REC 564 YDS 4 TD

Analysis
Matt Spaeth has a great deal of experience, having started at tight end for the past four seasons at Minnesota. During that time he has proven to be a very durable player and a team leader. He has good size for the tight end position. He is a good receiver with soft hands. He catches the ball with his hands rather than the “body catch”. Matt is also a great run blocker who spent his college career in a run-oriented offense. Matt’s combination of size and receiving ability makes him a dangerous weapon in the redzone. Matt lacks great speed and athleticism. He is a great short-intermediate range target but he won’t make many plays down the field. He isn’t very elusive after the catch but he will break tackles and gain additional yardage. He does need to work on running more precise routes. Matt is a tough player who played three games with a separated shoulder as a senior. He had reconstructive surgery and was forced to miss the insight bowl as a result. Matt Spaeth is a good all-around tight end who should develop into a solid starter at the professional level. He should be a first day pick in the 2007 NFL draft.

Atlanta Dan
04-29-2007, 09:51 AM
The above description of Spaeth reads like a blind date who is described as having a great personality. Maybe he can be used as a blocker on kickoffs

Hopefully someone in the Pittsburgh media asks Colbert/Tomlin why the #3 pick was used on teh one position other than QB where the Steelers do not need to address some needs

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-29-2007, 09:56 AM
Pick #1
Lawrence Timmons Outside Linebacker- Florida State #83
Height: 6-0 7/8
Weight: 234 lbs.
Forty Time: 4.59 Combine
Stats:
2004: 12 TK 0 SK 0 FF 0 INT
2005: 35 TK 3 SK 2 FF 0 INT
2006: 79 TK 5 SK 0 FF 1 INT

Analysis
Lawrence Timmons took over at strong side linebacker last year after they Seminoles lost Ernie Sims to the NFL. Timmons has a good combination of size, speed, and athleticism for a linebacker. He is an aggressive player with the range to make plays all over the field. He is an effective pass rusher with good closing speed getting to the quarterback. He has the ability to cover tight ends and running backs coming out of the backfield. He can be a bit overaggressive at times, causing him to miss the occasional open field tackle. He is a bit on the slim side and he will have problems getting off blocks at times. He would benefit from bulking up and increasing his strength at the next level. He only has one full year of starting experience under his belt and he still has some improvements to make when it comes to technique. Lawrence Timmons is a versatile player who saw action at strong side linebacker and defensive end at Florida State. Due to his lack of bulk and strength, he projects as a weak side linebacker in the NFL. He would?ve benefited from staying in school for his senior season, but his potential cannot be ignored. He has a ton of upside and should be a first or second round pick in the 2007 NFL draft.

Pick #2
LaMarr Woodley DE/OLB- Michigan
Height: 6-1 1/2
Weight: 266 lbs.
Forty Time: 4.74 Pro Day

Stats:
2003: 23 TK 2 SK 0 FF
2004: 70 TK 4 SK 3 FF
2005: 48 TK 5 SK 3 FF

Analysis
LaMarr Woodley is an extremely versatile player who has started at both defensive end and outside linebacker for the Michigan Wolverines over the past four years. He is a hard worker with a non-stop motor. He has a good combination of size and strength. He is very strong at the point of attack and does a good job of shedding blocks and getting to the ballcarrier. He makes plays all over the field and excels at making tackles in the open. He lacks great straight line speed, but he has excellent short area quickness making him a superb pass rusher off the edge. He would benefit from improving his technique and developing a larger range of pass rush moves at the next level. LaMarr is a bit of a ?tweener? who doesn?t have a clear position in the NFL. He lacks ideal height for a defensive end and he lacks ideal speed for a linebacker. He would probably fit in best as an outside linebacker in a 3-4 defensive scheme. LaMarr Woodley is a versatile player who could be used at defensive end or linebacker depending on which team drafts him. He is one of the best pass rushers in the draft which is something NFL scouts put a premium on. With more teams going to the 3-4 these days, LaMarr could be a hot commodity on draft day and he has a chance to be selected in the first round of the 2007 NFL draft.

Pick #3
Matt Spaeth Tight End - Minnesota #89
Height: 6-7 1/8
Weight: 270 lbs.
Forty Time: 4.81 Pro Day

Stats:
2002: Redshirt
2003: 12 REC 98 YDS 0 TD
2004: 24 REC 298 YDS 4 TD
2005: 26 REC 333 YDS 4 TD
2006: 47 REC 564 YDS 4 TD

Analysis
Matt Spaeth has a great deal of experience, having started at tight end for the past four seasons at Minnesota. During that time he has proven to be a very durable player and a team leader. He has good size for the tight end position. He is a good receiver with soft hands. He catches the ball with his hands rather than the ?body catch?. Matt is also a great run blocker who spent his college career in a run-oriented offense. Matt?s combination of size and receiving ability makes him a dangerous weapon in the redzone. Matt lacks great speed and athleticism. He is a great short-intermediate range target but he won?t make many plays down the field. He isn?t very elusive after the catch but he will break tackles and gain additional yardage. He does need to work on running more precise routes. Matt is a tough player who played three games with a separated shoulder as a senior. He had reconstructive surgery and was forced to miss the insight bowl as a result. Matt Spaeth is a good all-around tight end who should develop into a solid starter at the professional level. He should be a first day pick in the 2007 NFL draft.

I hear ya Dan...I am trying to be positive about the third pick...but cant help but look at all the players still on the board when he was picked.

BigBen2WardPITT
04-29-2007, 10:29 AM
Again, the Steelers completely suprise me by picking up a tight end in the third round. I mean, unless this kid can run block REALLY REALLY well, better than Heath, than this was a very "strange" pick. Even if he is a great run blocker, it still is a strange pick. Round three would of been perfect to pick up a talented running back.

But this happens every year, i question every move the steelers make.

what can we do?

BigBen2WardPITT
04-29-2007, 10:35 AM
somewhat encouraging:


"In Spaeth, the Steelers got a tight end who will give them the freedom to split starting tight end Heath Miller out wide more often than he has in the past.

"He's an outstanding, prototypical tight end," said offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. "At 6-7, he can stretch the field. He can handle the point of attack. He gives us good flexibility to take Heath and move him around a lot more and also I'm a three-tight end guy. Jerame Tuman has played extremely well for us the past couple of years, but I like having three tight ends on the field a lot of times. It gives us a good personnel group with two tight ends who can stretch the field and three tight ends that can block the point of attack.""

Anyone want to explain the reasoning behind the inexperienced Timmons? Heck our second round pick looks a heck of a lot better. But again, we really dont know how these guys are gonna turn out, I just like to know what the steelers thinking/feeling/hunch was on this one.

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-29-2007, 10:41 AM
Again, the Steelers completely suprise me by picking up a tight end in the third round. I mean, unless this kid can run block REALLY REALLY well, better than Heath, than this was a very "strange" pick. Even if he is a great run blocker, it still is a strange pick. Round three would of been perfect to pick up a talented running back.

But this happens every year, i question every move the steelers make.

what can we do?

I may not understand the pick...but all the analysis that I have seen on this kid shows that he is outstanding in short to intermediate routes..and a good red zone threat....played through a shoulder injury....recieved award as nations best tight end...and is Minnesotas all-time leader in catches and yards as a tight end.

That being said...I still would have taken a OT.....Well, I guess Doug Free is still available if he lasts until our next pick.

BigBen2WardPITT
04-29-2007, 10:46 AM
I bet you guys talk like this after every draft.

talk like what?

Seth88101
04-29-2007, 10:52 AM
What are the chances Michael Bush will survive 19 more picks so we can pick em up?

Atlanta Dan
04-29-2007, 10:54 AM
Anyone want to explain the reasoning behind the inexperienced Timmons? Heck our second round pick looks a heck of a lot better. But again, we really dont know how these guys are gonna turn out, I just like to know what the steelers thinking/feeling/hunch was on this one.

Tomlin adores him and has said he needs to be judged on what Tomlin saw him do on the field (in a conference that had an incredibly down year and was won by Wake Forest?!) rather than on the basis of height/weight/40 time.

NM

pittsburghp8baller
04-29-2007, 11:09 AM
i still think it was a good pick. think about it i would rather add depth to tight end than waste a pick on a running back this early. think about this too, why use a 3rd round pick on a running back that would be our third maybe even our fourth running back, if verron haynes rehabs good

pittsburghp8baller
04-29-2007, 11:09 AM
there goes bush

SalukiSteelers
04-29-2007, 11:19 AM
Day two of the draft and I can't wait 'til the thing is over. I'm sure someone's already said it, but I can't believe PGH took an LB in the first round. I hate that pick. Teams can pick up good LBs a lot lower in the draft than the first round.

That's all I've got. Go Pirates!

tony hipchest
04-29-2007, 11:29 AM
im so pissed we didnt take bush, a running back with so much potential and upside, last round. this reminds me of last year when we passed on m. robinson, and san fransisco immediately snagged him on day 2

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-29-2007, 11:31 AM
OT- Doug Free & RB Dwayne Wright are still on the boards

pittsburghp8baller
04-29-2007, 11:42 AM
some other Running Backs still avaible
Kolby Smith
Dwayne Wright
Darius Walker
DeShawn Wynn
Ken Darby
Ramance Taylor
Selvin Young
Nate Ilaoa (my fav and i think a perfect fit)
Tyrone Moss

BigBen2WardPITT
04-29-2007, 11:45 AM
If u wanna talk about the draft, come over to freewebs.com/chatsports/ and click on the blue link, put a name in and a java chat room will open in a seperate window

BigBen2WardPITT
04-29-2007, 11:47 AM
I may not understand the pick...but all the analysis that I have seen on this kid shows that he is outstanding in short to intermediate routes..and a good red zone threat....played through a shoulder injury....recieved award as nations best tight end...and is Minnesotas all-time leader in catches and yards as a tight end.

That being said...I still would have taken a OT.....Well, I guess Doug Free is still available if he lasts until our next pick.



im not disputing his talent (like i am with Timmons a little bit), just seemed like not a major need at all (we could of taken pittman or bush).

oh well, steelers usually know what they are doing, as i said earlier.

If u wanna talk about the draft, come over to freewebs.com/chatsports/ and click on the blue link, put a name in and a java chat room will open in a seperate window

pittsburghp8baller
04-29-2007, 11:50 AM
buffalo taking two running backs in the same draft? huh

BigBen2WardPITT
04-29-2007, 11:51 AM
wright gone.

god damn u steelers

BigBen2WardPITT
04-29-2007, 11:52 AM
buffalo taking two running backs in the same draft? huh

sometimes drafting makes absolutely no sense.

TJSteeler
04-29-2007, 11:59 AM
No Kidding. Steelers just moved up to take Sepulveda a punter from Baylor. May be good punting prospect but did we really need to move up. Not sure what we gave up.

BigBen2WardPITT
04-29-2007, 12:06 PM
As far as a TE in rnd 3, I don't know if this is where we should have taken one, but we need one. I think they will deploy allot of 2 TE set and Tuman is 30, Euhus is a ? and I don't know squat about Dekker. So if you need a good 2 TE set we would need a TE. Mayeb they will try and convert him to Tackle, who knows. I'm not gonna get down onthe draft until we cut all these guys in camp..

ok fine, but YOU CAN NOT TELL ME THAT IN TERMS OF NEEDS THAT TE WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN RB!

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-29-2007, 12:06 PM
I just realized Brandon Siler is still on the board....What the heck!!!!

OneForTheToe
04-29-2007, 12:06 PM
I never liked the ides of drafting punters/kickers, but it was definately need. If he is as good as advertised then I'm happy.

Tomlin must think the Steelers are set at a lot of positions the rest of us don't.

Fire Haley
04-29-2007, 12:07 PM
Tomlin is picking like a special teams coach

He better be Ray Guy II.....trading up to get a punter?
I guess our SB team is already set, cancel the rest of the draft.

ExtonSteelFan
04-29-2007, 12:08 PM
ok fine, but YOU CAN NOT TELL ME THAT IN TERMS OF NEEDS THAT TE WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN RB!

Not unless the coaching staff feel that Najeh is the answer (and I'm not saying that he is or isnt btw). To be honest with you, they probably have more knowledge than any of us do on this subject.

tony hipchest
04-29-2007, 12:09 PM
Gave up a 6th 192 and swaped 4ths, not bad. I guess somebody in there was thought to have wanted him, so we moved to get him. This is a pick a lot of us have been calling for since the season ended.it is a bad trade considering we couldve taken him in the 3rd and still had "our" TE in the 4th and not given up nothing.

better yet we couldve traded up for zak deosse who will eventually be a starter and solid player and wouldve been kick ass as a long snapper and on punt coverage. i wouldnt be suprised if hes looking like mike vrabel in 5 years. the only negative ive heard about him is that he went to an ivy league school.

OneForTheToe
04-29-2007, 12:10 PM
Have to be some O'lineman prospects coming soon? please?

SteelerMurf
04-29-2007, 12:12 PM
Have to be some O'lineman prospects coming soon? please?

There is no better talent than the STeelers already have at oline. If they draft a guard you have to cut Mahan, Simmons, Faneca or Keomeautou.

If you draft a tackle and you have to cut Colon or Essex.

Fire Haley
04-29-2007, 12:13 PM
NC - There is only one Suh-weet titties

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-29-2007, 12:18 PM
There is no better talent than the STeelers already have at oline. If they draft a guard you have to cut Mahan, Simmons, Faneca or Keomeautou.

If you draft a tackle and you have to cut Colon or Essex.

...or Starks

Doug Free is still on the boards.

tony hipchest
04-29-2007, 12:18 PM
I just realized Brandon Siler is still on the board....What the heck!!!! your picks are flying off the board. barbre and atkins back to back.

Fire Haley
04-29-2007, 12:20 PM
the only negative ive heard about him is that he went to an ivy league school.

The Positives: Our punter has better "measurables" than our first or second round pick.
6'3" 228 and runs a sub 4.5 40

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-29-2007, 12:22 PM
THERE WENT DOUG FREE!!!!:dang:

SteelerMurf
04-29-2007, 12:23 PM
The Positives: Our punter has better "measurables" than our first or second round pick.
6'3" 228 and runs a sub 4.5 40


Which proves how stupid you combine draft geeks are. Measurables mean nothing or this guy would be an all pro outside linebacker and track and field stars would be all over the NFL as WRs

tony hipchest
04-29-2007, 12:26 PM
THERE WENT DOUG FREE!!!!:dang:i just saw manny ramirez went too :dang:

tony hipchest
04-29-2007, 12:32 PM
jermon bushrod???? you'll have to clue me in on this guy who went to the saints, llt.

i only know one thing about bushrods. :chuckle:

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-29-2007, 12:40 PM
i just saw manny ramirez went too :dang:

Hey Tony...check out NFL.com...what do you think of Matt Trannon 6'6 WR out of Michigan State ...looks like he ran a 4.57 40 at the combine.....seems to have flown under the radar and is considered a developmental player

SteelCzar76
04-29-2007, 12:40 PM
The Positives: Our punter has better "measurables" than our first or second round pick.
6'3" 228 and runs a sub 4.5 40



What do you mean Killa ? I thought drafting a 6'0 231lbs OLB with 4.6 speed and one collegiate season's starting experience at 15 in the first round to be a 'visionary' move on the part Tomlin and Colbert ! Hey,...he played for Florida State,...he's gotta be the second coming of Derick Brooks ! Why he's one of those players that defies system ! (meaning he can 'bust' in any that you put him in)

And then following that pick up with an even slower overated tweener linebacker in the 2nd round,.....well i mean c'mon,....you don't see the genius in that ?

I mean why trade up in the 1st and get an actual stud linebacker,.....when you can Draft two project players whose combined ability equals out to that of single backer with a second round grade !

TJSteeler
04-29-2007, 12:44 PM
On the clock. Lots of value available. Probably trade down

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-29-2007, 12:44 PM
PLEEEAASE pick CB Michael Coe!!!

SteelerMurf
04-29-2007, 12:45 PM
What do you mean Killa ? I thought drafting a 6'0 231lbs OLB with 4.6 speed and one collegiate season's starting experience at 15 in the first round to be a 'visionary' move on the part Tomlin and Colbert ! Hey,...he played for Florida State,...he's gotta be the second coming of Derick Brooks ! Why he's one of those players that defies system ! (meaning he can 'bust' in any that you put him in)

And then following that pick up with an even slower overated tweener linebacker in the 2nd round,.....well i mean c'mon,....you don't see the genius in that ?

I mean why trade up in the 1st and get an actual stud linebacker,.....when you can Draft two project players whose combined ability equals out to that of single backer with a second round grade !

Are you gonna ever stop crying?

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-29-2007, 12:47 PM
hmmmmm...another player who can play 3-4 and 4-3.....?

ChronoCross
04-29-2007, 12:47 PM
ok fine, but YOU CAN NOT TELL ME THAT IN TERMS OF NEEDS THAT TE WAS MORE IMPORTANT THAN RB!

FO probably had good news from Verrons rehab and now sees RB as not a big need..

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-29-2007, 12:49 PM
FO probably had good news from Verrons rehab and now sees RB as not a big need..

...and Nate Ilaoa is still on the boards.

TJSteeler
04-29-2007, 12:50 PM
Last Pick. Looks like good value as projected as a late day 1 pick.

Ryan McBean
DT | (6'4", 286, 4.98) | OKLAHOMA STATE

Scouts Grade: 74

Flags: (B: BULK/SIZE) Lacks size/bulk for position Selected by: Pittsburgh Steelers
Round: 4
Pick (Overall): 33(132)


Strengths: Possesses good size-potential. Anticipates snaps fairly well, has a quick first step and can disrupt running plays in the backfield. Keeps head up and generally locates the ball carrier quickly. Plays with a good motor and shows decent range. Moves well laterally and runs line stunts well. Flashes an effective rip move and closes well when gets a clear path to the passer. Flashes a decent spin move and is a relentless pass rusher. Keeps driving legs once in position and flashes the ability to collapse the pocket. Plays with a mean streak and can deliver a big hit when gets to the quarterback.

Weaknesses: Lacks great lower body strength, he plays too high and can get driven off the ball. Avoids blockers rather than stacking them up, is overaggressive and gets caught out of position at times. Though he flashes a strong upper body and the ability to shed blocks quickly, he doesn't always use hands well and is somewhat inconsistent. Doesn't protect legs well and is vulnerable to cut blocks. Lacks ideal awareness and takes too long to react to screens as well as draws. Frequently fails to wrap up upon contact and is an inconsistent tackler. Though relatively tall and has long arms, he doesn't always get hands up when isn't going to get to the quarterback.

Overall: McBean originally attended Hinds Community College in 2003 where he started from day-one and finished his sophomore season in 2004 with 58 total tackles and seven sacks, earning all-conference honors. He arrived at Oklahoma State for spring practice in 2005, and then started all 11 contests at defensive tackle and recorded 37 total tackles, 5.5 tackles for loss, and three sacks. McBean started all 13 games in 2006 and amassed 25 total tackles, seven tackles for loss, 4.5 sacks, two fumble recoveries, and one forced fumble.

McBean lacks ideal size and will never be a two-gap defender. However, he has the frame, quickness, upper-body power and tenacity to develop into a quality starter in a one-gap scheme. He should continue to grow and get stronger over time. Depending on the scheme, McBean could fit as a defensive end or defensive tackle in the NFL. Regardless, he projects as a late-first day pick.

SteelCzar76
04-29-2007, 12:52 PM
Are you gonna ever stop crying?



It appears that your the only one 'crying' Smurf. LOL As for myself i can't decide which is more humorous,...this Sh#zer sandwhich Draft,...or your willingness eat it !:sofunny:

Man_Of_Steel
04-29-2007, 12:54 PM
Great draft so far IMO. Almost all of these players have won awards of some kind. Our 2nd pick Woodley said he should have been a first rounder so he has a chip on his shoulder already. Defensively we should be pretty damn good this year. Offensively we don't need much, we have some pretty good depth there. All in all not bad.

meelanova
04-29-2007, 12:57 PM
Great draft so far IMO. Almost all of these players have won awards of some kind. Our 2nd pick Woodley said he should have been a first rounder so he has a chip on his shoulder already. Defensively we should be pretty damn good this year. Offensively we don't need much, we have some pretty good depth there. All in all not bad.

Agreed.:tt02:

polamalufan43
04-29-2007, 01:02 PM
On Steelers.com it says that McBean is Jamaican born. have we ever drafted a player with such a ethicity before?

As for his playing, I think he has an ok chance so far. True True his size could be an issue.

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

SteelerMurf
04-29-2007, 01:03 PM
It appears that your the only one 'crying' Smurf. LOL As for myself i can't decide which is more humorous,...this Sh#zer sandwhich Draft,...or your willingness eat it !:sofunny:

You are a hater, I see people like you on message boards every draft. It's comical. Bunch of chicken littles

SteelerMurf
04-29-2007, 01:05 PM
I don't know why everyone is so down. What did you expect we rarely rate well in the draft. For several years now the experts have rated our drafts as C+ or lower. Colbert is not a genius. But things are also not that bad.

I don't know what makes fans on the internet think they know more than front offices of football teams who pay big money for scouts and game tape.

tony hipchest
04-29-2007, 01:06 PM
Hey Tony...check out NFL.com...what do you think of Matt Trannon 6'6 WR out of Michigan State ...looks like he ran a 4.57 40 at the combine.....seems to have flown under the radar and is considered a developmental player
very interresting. seems to be a tweener like coulston who is falling cause teams dont know what to do with him. he doesnt sound that smart. i wonder how he will do learning a new playbook. this could be a player we target late, only to have the ravens swoop in and snach him up. they do fine with dumb players.

i say hes worth a look.

MACH1
04-29-2007, 01:07 PM
I don't know what makes fans on the internet think they know more than front offices of football teams who pay big money for scouts and game tape.

Go ask that to a Detroit fan. :sofunny:

SteelerMurf
04-29-2007, 01:08 PM
Go ask that to a Detroit fan. :sofunny:

Please don't equate a Steeler front office with the Lions please.:toofunny:

DJfan
04-29-2007, 01:09 PM
Is NE retooling for another last ditch run, or what?!

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-29-2007, 01:10 PM
Still would like depth at ILB..CB...Wr...a big RB....and wouldnt be upset to see us grab Mason Crosby...how do we do that with our remaining three picks?:sofunny: :sofunny:

Man_Of_Steel
04-29-2007, 01:12 PM
Is NE retooling for another last ditch run, or what?!

They are THE TEAM to beat this year, they have to be favorites to win the SB. Screw the Colts, they won't be back. Maybe the Steelers can be a sleeper team this year and surprise with a great playoff run. :tt02:

Man_Of_Steel
04-29-2007, 01:12 PM
Still would like depth at ILB..CB...Wr...a big RB....and wouldnt be upset to see us grab Mason Crosby...how do we do that with our remaining three picks?:sofunny: :sofunny:

Maybe a CB is next. Its been pretty much defense for us this draft so we'll see what happens.

DJfan
04-29-2007, 01:13 PM
They are THE TEAM to beat this year, they have to be favorites to win the SB. Screw the Colts, they won't be back. Maybe the Steelers can be a sleeper team this year and surprise with a great playoff run. :tt02:

Agreed. The colts can win on rapid offense and weak D forever.

SteelCzar76
04-29-2007, 01:16 PM
You are a hater, I see people like you on message boards every draft. It's comical. Bunch of chicken littles



Why is it that i'm not surprised that you've spent a great deal of your life on 'message boards' smurf ? :toofunny:
But hey,...don't get your 'footie jammy's' in a bunch because others don't share your beliefs. Life is full of great revelations that you have yet to experience. For instance,.....there is no Easter Bunny, no tooth Fairy,...oh,....and that whole Santa Clause thing is,..........:toofunny: :toofunny:

"Knock it off" son.

SteelersFever
04-29-2007, 01:16 PM
SteelersFever.com had the opportunity to interview Oklahoma State RB Ryan McBean a few days ago. If you want to read the interview please go to http://www.steelersfever.com/editorials/0725.html. :helmet:

DJfan
04-29-2007, 01:16 PM
What is a SAM linebacker?

tony hipchest
04-29-2007, 01:20 PM
What is a SAM linebacker?

"sam"- strongside (te side) lb in a 4-3
"will"- weakside backer
"mike"- middle lb

we dont hear these terms with the 3-4

we have terms like "buck" linebacker and olb's

pittsburghp8baller
04-29-2007, 01:20 PM
What is a SAM linebacker?

its a short term for a strong-side linebacker

Man_Of_Steel
04-29-2007, 01:21 PM
What is a SAM linebacker?

Read this link: http://sports.expertvillage.com/experts/football-linebackers.htm

tony hipchest
04-29-2007, 01:21 PM
SteelersFever.com had the opportunity to interview Oklahoma State RB Ryan McBean a few days ago. If you want to read the interview please go to http://www.steelersfever.com/editorials/0725.html. :helmet:

great job by the site being on point.

19ward86
04-29-2007, 01:21 PM
who will the steelers pick with the 156th pick in the draft?
i wanted steve breaston, but since he's now gone i want brandon siler(linebacker from florida)

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-29-2007, 01:23 PM
Why is it that i'm not surprised that you've spent a great deal of your life on 'message boards' smurf ? :toofunny:
But hey,...don't get your 'footie jammy's' in a bunch because others don't share your beliefs. Life is full of great revelations that you have yet to experience. For instance,.....there is no Easter Bunny, no tooth Fairy,...oh,....and that whole Santa Clause thing is,..........:toofunny: :toofunny:

"Knock it off" son.

...that whole Santa Clause thing is..........? IS WHAT????!!!!...WAIT!!!...I dont want to know!!!

SteelCzar76
04-29-2007, 01:25 PM
...that whole Santa Clause thing is..........? IS WHAT????!!!!...WAIT!!!...I dont want to know!!!




:sofunny: :sofunny:

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-29-2007, 01:26 PM
who will the steelers pick with the 156th pick in the draft?
i wanted steve breaston, but since he's now gone i want brandon siler(linebacker from florida)

I would take Siler!!!

BIGBENFASTWILLIE
04-29-2007, 01:33 PM
Jonathan Palmer....OG...Auburn

OR

Anthony Arline....CB...Baylor

X-Terminator
04-29-2007, 01:35 PM
I don't know what makes fans on the internet think they know more than front offices of football teams who pay big money for scouts and game tape.

I don't think anyone here thinks they know more than the front offices/scouts, but that does not mean that they are not entitled to their opinions. After all, that's what message boards are - forums of opinions. Do I agree with all of the doom-and-gloom sentiments? No, and I have said as much. Steelers fans are not known for having much patience. But I'd never suggest they not say what's on their minds.

tony hipchest
04-29-2007, 01:38 PM
do we pass on troy smith if hes the best player left on our board?

Fire Haley
04-29-2007, 01:41 PM
Troy Smith would be a "sexy pick" to placate the haters....fans need braggin rights too.

SteelerMurf
04-29-2007, 01:42 PM
Why is it that i'm not surprised that you've spent a great deal of your life on 'message boards' smurf ? :toofunny:
But hey,...don't get your 'footie jammy's' in a bunch because others don't share your beliefs. Life is full of great revelations that you have yet to experience. For instance,.....there is no Easter Bunny, no tooth Fairy,...oh,....and that whole Santa Clause thing is,..........:toofunny: :toofunny:

"Knock it off" son.

A guy with over 1,000 posts telling a guy with 200 posts that he spends too much time on internet message boards.:dang:

SteelersFever
04-29-2007, 01:42 PM
great job by the site being on point.

Thanks Tony. Credit goes to Paul Eide for landing that interview! Too bad Antwan Barnes went too Baltimore.

Here is an excerpt from the interview at http://www.steelersfever.com/editorials/0725.html.

SF - Any final thoughts for Steelers fans?

RM - "Basically I appreciate the opportunity to even be invited to the Combine and just to go through this whole process. I'm a winner and love to play the game. I play with passion that the fans can appreciate because I don't take anything for granted. I'll be happy no matter who I get drafted by, but we'll find out on the 28th."

lamberts-lost-tooth
04-29-2007, 01:47 PM
Jonathan Palmer....OG...Auburn

OR

Anthony Arline....CB...Baylor

Travarous Bain...Corey Graham...Michael Coe

SteelersFever
04-29-2007, 01:47 PM
The server seems a little sluggish. I'm going to have to upgrade the server again! :dang:

tony hipchest
04-29-2007, 01:48 PM
Thanks Tony. Credit goes to Paul Eide for landing that interview! Too bad Antwan Barnes went too Baltimore.

Here is an excerpt from the interview at http://www.steelersfever.com/editorials/0725.html.

SF - Any final thoughts for Steelers fans?

RM - "Basically I appreciate the opportunity to even be invited to the Combine and just to go through this whole process. I'm a winner and love to play the game. I play with passion that the fans can appreciate because I don't take anything for granted. I'll be happy no matter who I get drafted by, but we'll find out on the 28th."
i was bummed about barnes too. that was a great interview. when we went lb with our 1st 2 picks i had a feeling we would miss out on him (and some other impressive mid round backers)

19ward86
04-29-2007, 01:51 PM
cameron stephenson??????
boring

OneForTheToe
04-29-2007, 01:52 PM
Offensive line - can he make the team?

SteelCzar76
04-29-2007, 02:02 PM
A guy with over 1,000 posts telling a guy with 200 posts that he spends too much time on internet message boards.:dang:




:coffee: C'mon Smurf,....i know you can do better than this ? Perhaps you could use a Crayon font and reverse your vowels ! LOL

SteelerMurf
04-29-2007, 02:08 PM
:coffee: C'mon Smurf,....i know you can do better than this ? Perhaps you could use a Crayon font and reverse your vowels ! LOL

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X-Terminator
04-29-2007, 02:09 PM
OK guys, enough - please let's not ruin this thread. Thanks!

SteelersFever
04-29-2007, 02:09 PM
:coffee: C'mon Smurf,....i know you can do better than this ? Perhaps you could use a Crayon font and reverse your vowels ! LOL

I'll let you in on a little secret ... members who contribute good posts are going to be eligible for some cool prizes this season. :bouncy: