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tony hipchest
05-04-2007, 09:58 AM
http://nfl.com/news/story/10164379

By Pat Kirwan
NFL.com Senior Analyst

(May 3, 2007) -- The issue of concussions is turning into a very hot subject around the league. Commissioner Roger Goodell has mandated that every team attend a league-wide conference on concussions on June 19.

Is the issue over who to blame when injuries occur? Is it over the club or the coach that suggests to the player, "We need you. Can you go?" Is it the player who fears he'll lose his job if he sits? Or is it, as I believe, now time to protect the players from themselves.


Commissioner Roger Goodell has made the issue of concussions a top priority.
I spent most of the day talking to NFL players about the concussion story. Players said they did feel some pressure from clubs to play when they were hurt, but they also admitted they would try and "talk the trainer into letting them play."

It is my opinion that teams are a lot more cautious than they were years ago and that older players are wiser, but the young players feel invincible. As one player told me, "I feel like Superman." Well, no one is protected from concussions in a violent collision sport like football, but the longer I talked with players, the more I was convinced of a few issues that could help protect the players from themselves.

Make the mouthpiece mandatory in the NFL: Most of the players I discussed the mouthpiece subject with felt about 35 percent of NFL players wear a mouthpiece. When asked about his mouthpiece, one linebacker said, "I only wear it when the team we play has a big fullback." He also said, "I can't call the defense with a mouthpiece."

Players have to wear helmets that fit: As one veteran said, "There's a player on our team that uses a helmet two sizes too big to fit his hair under the helmet." R.W. McQuarters cut his hair recently, and I'm sure he had to get a different helmet.

Provide a group of league doctors: There is a growing sentiment that a league bank of doctors not affiliated with a specific team should rule on all concussions. A player that gets a concussion on a given Sunday could have a "league doctor" rule him out for a specific time period with no chance of the player being released. Players are afraid that if they get labeled injury prone, they will not be on the payroll to long. Some players feel the team doctor is to close to the team to do the right thing. I have known some great team doctors who always put the patient ahead of the team, but it could be a legitimate fear among players.

Finally, the courage and toughness required to play this game and the intense loyalty the players have for each other can work against the same player when a concussion is the issue.
so would steelerfans rather have troy with long hair for 10 years or 15 years with it short?

Buzz05
05-04-2007, 10:10 AM
Personally if its gonna save not only his career but help his quality of life to have shorter hair and a safer helmet so I say great. But I dont know if thats for anybody, including the league, to say other then Troy. Thats his freedom of speech and expression and there is nothing in the nfl rule book to discourage it. I would love to see Troy take all the necessary precautions to help himself but unless he wants the smaller halmet without hair there is really nothing we as fans can do about it other then hope for the best.

Jeremy
05-04-2007, 10:12 AM
http://nfl.com/news/story/10164379

so would steelerfans rather have troy with long hair for 10 years or 15 years with it short?

Long hair.

Fire Haley
05-04-2007, 10:13 AM
Shave all their heads and make them wear metal buckets for helmets....the Sounds of the Game will be intense.

stlrtruck
05-04-2007, 10:22 AM
maybe they can cut a hole in the back (like a ball cap style helmet) so his hair can stick out the back. I mean his hair is padded enough that it should still protect with any contact (j/k)

Jeremy
05-04-2007, 10:32 AM
maybe they can cut a hole in the back (like a ball cap style helmet) so his hair can stick out the back. I mean his hair is padded enough that it should still protect with any contact (j/k)

On a side note, they have batting helmets for girls with a hole in the back for their hair now.

Ponytail batting helmet. (http://www.anacondasports.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10201&categoryId=169828&langId=-1&sportId=49321&productId=133388)

Borski
05-04-2007, 11:22 AM
http://nfl.com/news/story/10164379

Players have to wear helmets that fit: As one veteran said, "There's a player on our team that uses a helmet two sizes too big to fit his hair under the helmet." R.W. McQuarters cut his hair recently, and I'm sure he had to get a different helmet.

Makes it sound like that player stuffed all his hair into the helmet, Troy lets it stick out the back. I think that would make a difference.


If they do tests and find out Troy's hair posses a higher risk then I hope he would cut it, but its up to him.

RoethlisBURGHer
05-04-2007, 11:48 AM
Troy's hair is different than the hair of someone with braids or dreadlocks.

You need the helmet loose with braids and dreadlocks because they wear a bandana or something like one on thier head to keep thier hair from coming loose.

Troy's hair is free flowing,so I think it's fair to say he wears a helmet that is very well-fitting.

DACEB
05-04-2007, 11:52 AM
I don't know about the hair, I personally like it long, but I would say with him wearing it out it does'nt make much difference.

I do know, because of the picture of him on my calendar, that Troy wears the new style helmet specifically for concussions and he wears a mouthpiece.

Counselor
05-04-2007, 02:08 PM
Troy's hair is different than the hair of someone with braids or dreadlocks.

You need the helmet loose with braids and dreadlocks because they wear a bandana or something like one on thier head to keep thier hair from coming loose.

Troy's hair is free flowing,so I think it's fair to say he wears a helmet that is very well-fitting.

You are correct. A helmet becomes ill fitted if you pile all your hair up underneath the helmet. If it comes out the back like Troy's does, that should not be a problem with helmet fit. Girls riding horses are told not to pile their hair in the their helmet because of the poor fit element.

Regarding the pony-tail batter's helmet. Something like that would not be appropriate for a sport like football. Holes in a helmet---especially of that size--- compromise the strength and protection they provide.

polamalufan43
05-04-2007, 02:54 PM
I'd say that the hair under the helmet has nothing to do with it. If Troy's helmet actually flew off during a game, then I would be worried. Even though his hair is obviously thick, it flattens itself under the helmet. For example, I have very think and wavy hair and I've played softball before. I left my hair down and it kind of molded to fit the helmet and then flattened. Same thing when I put on a football helmet.

I want to know how they will test players with longer and thicker hair because that extra padding might throw off data.

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

wise1s
05-04-2007, 03:10 PM
If it will help his health for the after football life, than he should cut it. But, it's his choice and he knows the risks.

SteelerMurf
05-04-2007, 03:32 PM
how bout we do a study.

Concussions with Troy with long hair vs. Troy with normal hair?

It's not even close he has less with long hair, last year was his first concussion in a long time.

Indy_Steelers
05-05-2007, 04:50 PM
I read someplace that Troy said he keeps it long to help prevent a concussion.

tony hipchest
05-05-2007, 04:59 PM
I read someplace that Troy said he keeps it long to help prevent a concussion.it hasnt worked.

thats like trusting a witch doctor over a concussion specialist.

its proven a mouthpiece can help reduce concussions, yet the majority of players wont even think of wearing one. only "fags" and "puzzies " wear them. peer pressure and pride goes along way in deciding which protective measures players take.

really... if long hair helped prevent concussions, wouldnt all helmet manufacturers line their helmets with hair? :tap:

Preacher
05-05-2007, 05:33 PM
Ok...

I Played hockey with a brain bucket for years... I know it is somewhat different... but the fitting issue isn't.

When I played with short hair, it stayed on pretty well.

When I played with long hair, as long as it flowed behind, it stayed on pretty well.

The hair makes no difference. In Troy's case, because of thickness of the hair, if anything, it would produce more padding in a collision.

In short, the length of his hair has NOTHING to do with concussions.

tony hipchest
05-05-2007, 06:00 PM
personally i'd hate "big brother" to step in and try to force troy to cut his hair. steinbrenner does that crap with his yankees and i think its pretty much bs. even the browns had brady quinn cut his hair just because he was wearing the metrosexual homo cropped do that seems so popular amongst college nutgrabbers.

as far as the safety issue, i think it is players like adam jones who looks like a bobble head doll to stuff all of their dreads in the helmet cause theyre afraid of getting their hair pulled. its obvious this isnt the case with troy.

al toon, merrill hoge, and bill romonowski all had multiple concussions as did aikman and young. none of them had long hair. troys concussions are from his style of play and not his hair.