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SteelerSal
09-04-2005, 01:20 PM
Skimmed through other teams final cuts looking for depth at WR that could be better than M&M(Mays and Morey) and I came up with..................


David Terrell - Former 1st rounder
Kevin Dyson - not sure what he has left
Bobby Shaw - I liked him when he was with us
Jerome Pathon -same as Dyson
PK Sams - made things happen in college


Any thoughts to these? :rolleyes:

rowedf
09-04-2005, 03:17 PM
None that are heads and shoulders above Mays and Morey, they each bring something that those guys probably wouldn't..........good special teams play and they know the system, people really underestimate that.

ngreene15
09-04-2005, 04:40 PM
I think David Terrell would be a good pickup.

He had a decent year last year, 700 yards or so with the Bears.

stillers4strife
09-04-2005, 05:05 PM
Terrell would be interesting. PK Sam would be an interesting project guy. Probably ends up on NE's practice squad.

I think the Steelers go with what they've got at WR.

Maybe we'll add Chris Doering later in the season. :rolleyes:

Blitzburgh55
09-04-2005, 08:49 PM
They r keep Morey for special teams thats it

SteelerSal
09-04-2005, 09:09 PM
They r keep Morey for special teams thats it

This from the Post Gazette:

On top of that, the Steelers will go into the regular season with a special-teams ace as their fourth receiver because Lee Mays is out a minimum two weeks, and likely longer, with what has been termed a "significant" hamstring injury.

Heres the story;


Steelers cut 4th-round pick
Ward getting close to settling contract
Sunday, September 04, 2005

By Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


Haraz N. Ghanbarl, Associated Press
Receiver Fred Gibson pulls down a pass against the Redskins' Pierson Prioleau.
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Their top receiver has not exactly looked like a four-time Pro Bowler and is not thrilled he is still without a contract extension, though it appears that is about to change very soon.

The player who was brought in via free agency to replace Plaxico Burress is still trying to transfer the explosiveness he displays on the practice field into a game situation.

The rookie receiver who looked to be the steal of the draft on the fourth round was cut yesterday, making him the highest-drafted player since Danny Farmer in 2000 to be released in the same year he was drafted.

On top of that, the Steelers will go into the regular season with a special-teams ace as their fourth receiver because Lee Mays is out a minimum two weeks, and likely longer, with what has been termed a "significant" hamstring injury.

Other than that, the situation at wide receiver -- a perceived area of strength -- is just fine, thank you.

"We haven't been able to establish much in the passing game," said Cedrick Wilson, the No. 3 receiver who was brought in from the San Francisco 49ers to replaced the departed Burress. "We talk a lot in practice that it's still preseason and there's no need to panic right now. But, at the same time, we need the passing game to help out our running game."

The preseason is over, and the regular season starts a week from today, and the passing game bears little resemblance to the efficient unit directed last season by Ben Roethlisberger, who ranked second in the AFC -- behind only Peyton Manning -- in completion percentage (66.4) and yards per gain (8.88).

Roethlisberger produced only three points in four preseason games and completed fewer passes (16) than he did in five games last season, when he was the NFL's rookie of the year. Ward, who held out 15 days in search of a contract extension, dropped nearly as many passes (2) as he caught. And Wilson caught only four passes, but he also dropped two throws -- albeit errant ones -- from Roethlisberger.

Ward, though, is getting close to a big catch: The Steelers and his agent, Eugene Parker, are making progress on a contract extension that could be agreed upon in the next 48 hours.

But the performance of the wide receivers is perhaps best crystallized by the release of Gibson, one of 12 players waived by the Steelers to get to the required 53-man roster.

Gibson was a fourth-round pick who had size (6 feet 4), speed, quickness and jumping ability. At Georgia, he also was a record-setting kick-returner. But the former basketball player was dunked by the Steelers because he couldn't get off the line of scrimmage, ran poor routes and appeared to run away from the football.

The Steelers will try to re-sign Gibson to the eight-man practice squad, if he clears waivers, but his athletic ability could make him an attractive pickup for another team.

"I think I did a good job of catching the football and making plays in practice," Gibson said. "It starts in practice. Practice pays off. You always can get better in the playbook. You don't know everything because the playbook is so thick.

"I'm a rookie. Everything is going to come. It doesn't come in one day, it doesn't come in one week or two weeks. Things are going to get better."

Gibson was released in favor of rookie free agent Nate Washington, one of the surprises of training camp who played at Division II Tiffin University near Toledo, Ohio. Washington had eight catches for 108 yards in the preseason, although he dropped a perfect pass from Charlie Batch in the end zone in Carolina.

Gibson was targeted as a potential No. 4 receiver, but his failure to learn the offense allowed Mays, who has just 11 catches in three seasons, to hold on to his role.

With Mays out -- he injured his hamstring in the second quarter in Carolina -- special-teams standout Sean Morey will become the No. 4 receiver. Morey has been the team's most-productive receiver the past several games, catching seven passes in the past five quarters, including the winning, 45-yard touchdown with 1:35 remaining in Carolina.

"It's going to come, just like in college," Gibson said. "I remember my freshman year, I had to learn the offense, and it's the same thing here. It's a different level -- everybody's good here. You got to try to separate yourself from everybody else."

Gibson separated himself, all right -- right off the roster.



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(Gerry Dulac can be reached at gdulac@post-gazette.com or 412-263-1466.)



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Koopa
09-04-2005, 09:20 PM
oh well, how often do we use that fourth option wr anyway? heath miller will hopefully be hauling in a lot of passes so that fourth option will be pointless

BlitzburghRockCity
09-04-2005, 11:10 PM
We do have some 4 and 5 WR sets but we dont run them that often..but the problem here isnt that scenario so much as the injury possibilty of pushing morey, mays into the lineup quicker!

Stlrs4Life
09-04-2005, 11:22 PM
I still hope we put Gibson on the PS. I'd love to see us cut Mays, and give Washington his spot. Morey is strictly a ST guy.

Prosdo
09-05-2005, 03:49 AM
Unfortunately we won't get that chance. Gibson went elsewhere. I really wish we would have cut Mays and put Gibson there.

clevestinks
09-05-2005, 08:53 AM
I really think we need to pick up one wr. somewhere.

Livinginthe past
09-05-2005, 10:00 AM
Im not 100% sure why David Terrell was cut from the Patriots WR corps - maybe it was simply
due to competition doing better than him - as far as anyone can tell his attitude was good.

We have alot of good receivers at NE at the moment - and I can see this is one area of weakness you have at the moment - you need a guy who can do 3rd/4th receivers job right away - PK Sam is as rough a diamond as there is - alot of talent, but probably made the wrong choice coming into the draft a year early so your best would be David Terrell.

Cheers

NM

SteelerSal
09-05-2005, 10:33 AM
Im not 100% sure why David Terrell was cut from the Patriots WR corps - maybe it was simply
due to competition doing better than him - as far as anyone can tell his attitude was good.



I'm sure it was the competition, I'd bring him in to see what he can do.
This guy was awsome in college, the 6th selection in the 1st round, by the Bears and then did'nt have a chance to show his skills with the likes of these QB's throwing to him:

K. Stewart - :redface: :chair:
C.Chandler - should of been retired
C. Hutchinson- Oh boy :yawn:
Craig Krenzel- 3rd string at best
John Quinn- the medicine man

He has size that we need 6-3 212lbs. also, I would like to see him here instead of Mays and Morey.
And as for Morey being on the roster as a special teams ace, bullsh@t, I think the coaches can find someone else on the team that can tackle!

TasmanianTroy271
09-05-2005, 10:55 AM
I think we should cut Mays to give someone else a chance. Morey showed he can catch in a pinch if need be against the Cats, and he's a great special-teamer, so I think we should keep him until he starts to deteriarate. I dunno much about other teams and if they cut anyone who could be good, but we should definately look into it.

P.S. when does Mays contract expire?

Prosdo
09-05-2005, 11:26 AM
No loss in looking at him. Always good to keep your options open. Also never been very big on Mays.

SteelerSal
09-05-2005, 01:05 PM
I'd like to bump this to the top since Hines just signed, and compliment him with a #2 Wr in possibly Terrell, and keep Randle El in the slot.

Terrell= 6'3" 212 lbs. :grin:

Koopa
09-05-2005, 07:37 PM
what about quincy morgan? the cowboys released him today, he would be worth takin a look at

LambertIsGod58
09-05-2005, 07:49 PM
I'd take a chance on Morgan. He's got experience. We could use him possibly as #3. He may be a better #2 than El.

BlitzburghRockCity
09-05-2005, 10:51 PM
I wouldnt really expect the Steelers to go after any fairly big names at WR. Anything is possible of course but they are still high on cedric and w/ Hines now signed sealed and delivered, we have a good starting 3..and for some reason they really like Morey as the 4th guy. And waiting in the wings is washington and of course mays.

Koopa
09-05-2005, 10:59 PM
they like moery because he went to an ivy league school, lol. i hope washington can step it up in practice and take the 4th spot. and i hope they get wilson involved because we never got to see what he could do in the preseason. and i want them to get heath involved in the passing game cause that would be a worthless first round pick if you're just going to use him to block.