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83-Steelers-43
05-10-2007, 11:53 PM
Steelers Minicamp: Faneca, Polamalu to practice with team
Friday, May 11, 2007

By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

New coach Mike Tomlin should see two vital components of the Steelers' Super Bowl team on the practice field when his second minicamp starts today.

Guard Alan Faneca and safety Troy Polamalu, who did not attend minicamp three weeks ago, have told club officials they will join their teammates for three days of required practices this weekend.

Between them, Faneca and Polamalu have made nine Pro Bowls. They also enter the final year of their contracts and no progress has been reported in contract talks with either player.

While the players were not required to attend the first minicamp April 20-22, all but Faneca, Polamalu and linebacker Clark Haggans participated. Haggans and Polamalu provided Tomlin with excuses; Faneca did not. Haggans was at a team meeting last night and also will be at this camp.

Faneca, a six-time Pro Bowl guard, however, promised to turn out as the new draft class and free agent rookies join the veterans on the field for the first time.

Faneca, a nine-year starter, expressed disappointment shortly after the Steelers hired Tomlin in February and that they did not instead hire Russ Grimm or Ken Whisenhunt, two former members of Bill Cowher's staff, to become the next head coach.

"When Cowher retired, everybody in the league wanted two of our guys, so you'd think we would want at least one of them," Faneca said from the Pro Bowl in Hawaii.

However, it is not so much who is coach but lagging contract talks that Faneca and his agent, Rick Smith, seem most unhappy about. Faneca was paid a $1 million roster bonus in March and is due a $3,375,000 salary at a time when free-agent guards who have never been to a Pro Bowl have signed contracts guaranteeing $17 million.

"It's between Alan and the front-office people," receiver Hines Ward said after talking to Faneca before the first minicamp. "We as players support Alan and whatever decision he makes."

Said fellow starting guard Kendall Simmons during the first minicamp, "The whole thing that is going on is all business and is part of it, and every guy is going to go through it eventually."

Tomlin talked with Faneca when the player turned up at the team's South Side training center the day before the first minicamp.

"I know I have no personal issues with him," Tomlin said at the time.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07131/785177-66.stm

Galax Steeler
05-11-2007, 03:57 AM
That is great news I would like to see troy signed first then work on faneca but I think faneca will be gone next year but maybe he will be a strong contributor to the team this year.

abgroove
05-11-2007, 06:37 AM
That is great news I would like to see troy signed first then work on faneca but I think faneca will be gone next year but maybe he will be a strong contributor to the team this year.

Indeed

Atlanta Dan
05-11-2007, 07:09 AM
It may be the style of Troy and his agent to play it close to the vest, but Troy's absence from prior camps until today and the absence of any indication whatsoever on progress regarding a new deal for him is troubling.

If Faneca goes there are a number of legitimate reasons the deal could not get done, but if Troy goes the issue of whether the Rooneys will pay what it takes to keep prime tme talent will definitely be teed up.

tony hipchest
05-11-2007, 08:48 AM
It may be the style of Troy and his agent to play it close to the vest, but Troy's absence from prior camps until today and the absence of any indication whatsoever on progress regarding a new deal for him is troubling.

.well the rooneys better quit sitting on their hands in regards to troy unless theyre happy with drew rosenhaus and dan snyder establishing his market value for them.

top 10 pick sean taylor (who has already made alot more money than troy and still has 2-3 years left on his current deal) is threatenning holdout so he can get an extension. ed reed (another tha u player, also represented by drew) has already broke the safety bank, and with the current salary cap inflation im sure drew will expect taylor to be the richest safety in the game.

more proof that steelers need to scrap their philosophy of waiting till the last minute to extend their stars, so that they can keep players like duce on the roster a year too long.

fansince'76
05-11-2007, 08:55 AM
well the rooneys better quit sitting on their hands in regards to troy unless theyre happy with drew rosenhaus and dan snyder establishing his market value for them.

I agree - I don't say this about many players, because I don't think it applies to many players, but IMO, Troy is a MUST sign, and the sooner the better.

Atlanta Dan
05-11-2007, 08:59 AM
well the rooneys better quit sitting on their hands in regards to troy unless theyre happy with drew rosenhaus and dan snyder establishing his market value for him.

top 10 pick sean taylor (who has already made alot more money than troy and still has 2-3 years left on his current deal) is threatenning holdout so he can get an extension. ed reed (another tha u player, also represented by drew) has already has already broke the safety bank and with the current salary cap inflation im sure drew will expect taylor to be the richest safety in the game.

more proof that steelers need to scrap their philosophy of waiting till the last minute to extend their stars, so that they can keep players like duce on the roster a year too long.

Since I figure Colbert does what he is told, it is AJR II's call now. So far he has had 2 major contract issues - Cowher and Faneca. In both cases, the other side's terms (Cowher wanting to spend more time in NC, Faneca wanting top $$$) arguably made getting a deal done prohibitive. Nevertheless, in the case of Cowher and the apparent case of Faneca the negotiations crashed.

I agree AJR II may need to consider revising his playbook. Not renegotiating until the last year of the contract is forcing the Steelers into negotiations where the price point is being set by other teams.

tony hipchest
05-11-2007, 09:18 AM
Since I figure Colbert does what he is told, it is AJR II's call now. So far he has had 2 major contract issues - Cowher and Faneca. In both cases, the other side's terms (Cowher wanting to spend more time in NC, Faneca wanting top $$$) arguably made getting a deal done prohibitive. Nevertheless, in the case of Cowher and the apparent case of Faneca the negotiations crashed.

I agree AJR II may need to consider revising his playbook. Not renegotiating until the last year of the contract is forcing the Steelers into negotiations where the price point is being set by other teams.how smart do the eagles look now by ripping up o-lineman shawn andrews rookie deal (which still had 3-4 years left) and locking him up for years, right before the price of linemen rose like internet stocks in 2000?

i know that it would be easier said than done, to give polamalu a new deal last year. we needed to keep him at his current low salary to stay under the cap last season and next. but thats where steelers gotta get rid of some of the high priced veteran back ups like kirschke, staley, and okolbi, and roll with youngsters like orien harris, john kuhn, and marvin phillip. hell we did it with longsnapper schneck in favor of warren, and didnt have any snapping problems the year of our sb run.

coachspeak33
05-11-2007, 09:27 AM
well the rooneys better quit sitting on their hands in regards to troy unless theyre happy with drew rosenhaus and dan snyder establishing his market value for them.

top 10 pick sean taylor (who has already made alot more money than troy and still has 2-3 years left on his current deal) is threatenning holdout so he can get an extension. ed reed (another tha u player, also represented by drew) has already broke the safety bank, and with the current salary cap inflation im sure drew will expect taylor to be the richest safety in the game.

more proof that steelers need to scrap their philosophy of waiting till the last minute to extend their stars, so that they can keep players like duce on the roster a year too long.

Bravo.....I couldnt have said it better myself.

Looks like "the Steeler Way" needs to be modernized a little bit.....

The old Woody Hayes saying ...."you win with good people"....Maybe in the old days when players acted like eating a big "healthy" steak with a glass of light beer was part of their conditioning program....but not anymore....those days are gone

Troy is one of the most dynamic players the NFL has to offer....You simply dont let that player leave your roster before he has reached his prime years of production....PERIOD.

We are not talking about a Leon Searcy or even a Carnell Lake....both quality players....pro bowl calibar players.....they are not in Troys league, however.


Oh and by the way tony....the sheep on here will get ya if you talk of other owners....especially those who havent won a super bowl.....cause Art II, hes won a SB....so in the eyes of many he and his decisions are completey beyond reproach....he and his infinite wisdom of "my ancient way or the highway"....thats the only way to do business.

coachspeak33
05-11-2007, 09:30 AM
how smart do the eagles look now by ripping up o-lineman shawn andrews rookie deal (which still had 3-4 years left) and locking him up for years, right before the price of linemen rose like internet stocks in 2000?

i know that it would be easier said than done, to give polamalu a new deal last year. we needed to keep him at his current low salary to stay under the cap last season and next. but thats where steelers gotta get rid of some of the high priced veteran back ups like kirschke, staley, and okolbi, and roll with youngsters like orien harris, john kuhn, and marvin phillip. hell we did it with longsnapper schneck in favor of warren, and didnt have any snapping problems the year of our sb run.

see there you go again tony, complimenting the business practices of other franchises. So now I gotta ask....how many SB's have the eagles won??? (enter sarcasm font):cheers:

Atlanta Dan
05-11-2007, 10:10 AM
Of course, the one concern may be how serious the Steelers believe the concussion issue may be with Troy - they have the medical records.

He had an injury prone 2006 and a scary bad concussion in the Saints game. If he is one or two more concussions from leaving the game there is a risk in signing him to a mega-$$$ deal above and beyond the risk that any NFL player can incur a career ending injury every tiem the ball is snapped.

The Duke
05-11-2007, 10:31 AM
Good move Faneca

stlrtruck
05-11-2007, 10:35 AM
I don't think we should worry too much about Troy. Troy historically has done his conditioning elsewhere and skipped the majority of mini camps. Even Bill said two years ago, "As long as he comes to training camp in shape, I'm not too concerned about it."

So I'll continue to accept that practice from him as long as he continues to play at the high levels that I'm use to seeing from him. As for his contact, I'm sure the FO is looking at it knowing they've got to get him signed to a long term deal.

As for Faneca, it would be nice to have him on the roster but if he's going to continue to bitch and moan about the coaching choices, then sooner or later he's going to become a virus in the locker room. Maybe he should just shut up and play. Then once his contract is up, he can either move on or hold the Steelers for more money (which yes, I know he deserves).

memphissteelergirl
05-11-2007, 11:23 AM
I don't think we should worry too much about Troy. Troy historically has done his conditioning elsewhere and skipped the majority of mini camps. Even Bill said two years ago, "As long as he comes to training camp in shape, I'm not too concerned about it."

So I'll continue to accept that practice from him as long as he continues to play at the high levels that I'm use to seeing from him. As for his contact, I'm sure the FO is looking at it knowing they've got to get him signed to a long term deal.

As for Faneca, it would be nice to have him on the roster but if he's going to continue to bitch and moan about the coaching choices, then sooner or later he's going to become a virus in the locker room. Maybe he should just shut up and play. Then once his contract is up, he can either move on or hold the Steelers for more money (which yes, I know he deserves).



:iagree:

tony hipchest
05-11-2007, 01:58 PM
lol. remember when this was the great news/feel good thread of the morning? :sofunny:

polamalufan43
05-11-2007, 07:10 PM
All opinions/possible obession aside, I would in all honesty rather have Troy back than Faneca. I think it would be alot easier to replace someone at O-line and in the D we are having worse troubles.

~Polamalufan43:tt02:

Polamalu777
05-11-2007, 07:20 PM
Faneca isn't coming back next year.

fansince'76
05-11-2007, 07:21 PM
All opinions/possible obession aside, I would in all honesty rather have Troy back than Faneca.
~Polamalufan43:tt02:

Considering your screen name, I'm surprised at this statement. :chuckle: Seriously though, I agree wholeheartedly - I have felt for a while now that retaining Troy is a higher priority than Faneca, and Faneca's temper tantrum earlier today only reinforces those feelings. Troy has shown the potential to be one of the all-time greats and more importantly, he's still young. That's enough for me.

Polamalu777
05-11-2007, 07:27 PM
Well Troy Polamalu is younger and is the future of the franchise. I mean Faneca will retire in like 3 years.

I-Want-Troy's-Hair
05-11-2007, 07:45 PM
Faneca isn't coming back next year.

Nope