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tony hipchest
05-13-2007, 02:09 PM
doesnt it seem like the majority of jeff reeds kicks are a few feet away from the left upright? i think this will help:

It might also be entered into the record at this point that placekicker Jeff Reed was rewarded for his persistence with a new apparatus that simulates a goal post with a crossbar matching Arena Football dimensions.

"It's nine feet instead of 18," Reed explained. "I've asked for it the last two years. But Coach Cowher wasn't a big fan of the idea."

MACH1
05-13-2007, 02:25 PM
Wouldn't hurt to try. If it helps to make him a better fg kicker then I say go for it.

fansince'76
05-13-2007, 02:28 PM
Is there anything available to improve kicking distance? When's the last time Reed put a kickoff in the endzone? I can't recall it ever happening.

tony hipchest
05-13-2007, 02:32 PM
Is there anything available to improve kicking distance? When's the last time Reed put a kickoff in the endzone? I can't recall it ever happening.yeah, its called a Sepulveda. hopefully our new canon leg punter gets a shot at kickoffs.

paw-n-maul-u
05-13-2007, 02:36 PM
Is there anything available to improve kicking distance? When's the last time Reed put a kickoff in the endzone? I can't recall it ever happening.

ditto. for some reason it seems we are always giving it to them right around the 10 ... and the usually return it no less than the 25 ... ridiculous

The Duke
05-13-2007, 03:41 PM
yeah, its called a Sepulveda. hopefully our new canon leg punter gets a shot at kickoffs.

hope so:thumbsup:

Atlanta Dan
05-13-2007, 04:57 PM
Surprised there is no indication someone will be brought in to seriously challenge Reed.

After the game in Cleveland last season where kickoffs were being squibbed and the Browns were getting the ball around the 40 (when I suggested they might as well intentionally kick it out of bounds) I thought Reed's days were numbered.

The Baylor placekicker handled kickoffs the last 2 seasons. In some boxscores Sepulveda was credited with kickoffs in the 60-65 yard range, so I do not know if that is being considered as a serious option - something needs to happen.

eavesjr
05-13-2007, 05:29 PM
I'm hoping Sepulveda is the answer on kickoffs because I really like J Reed at placekicker. He hits a lot of clutch FG's at home on that awful turf and in bad weather.

ChronoCross
05-13-2007, 06:00 PM
Reed probably got the ideal off of arena football field goal setup. Probably will better him.

HometownGal
05-13-2007, 06:17 PM
yeah, its called a Sepulveda. hopefully our new canon leg punter gets a shot at kickoffs.

I'm hoping he gets a shot at kickoffs, too. Jeff Reed is a decent clutch FG PK, but to be quite honest (and I'll say it) - he sucks on kickoffs. Many fans put the blame on the rest of the ST's for the nice field position some of our opponents were getting, when Reed should have been wearing the dunce cap.

SteelCzar76
05-13-2007, 08:09 PM
I'm hoping he gets a shot at kickoffs, too. Jeff Reed is a decent clutch FG PK, but to be quite honest (and I'll say it) - he sucks on kickoffs. Many fans put the blame on the rest of the ST's for the nice field position some of our opponents were getting, when Reed should have been wearing the dunce cap.




Well said HTG. Many didn't take Reids lack of depth on kickoffs into consideration. As very often this year it was the cause of many a 'short field' for the opposition. And thereby even making the Defensive units job that much more difficult.

Especially in the secondary IMO where teams where able to immediately get into 'striking distance' for the big play with the 25-40 yard 'shots at the enzone'.

GBMelBlount
05-13-2007, 09:36 PM
Would anyone be willing to stick there neck out & rate Reed on a 1-10 scale (10 Best) compared to the rest of the league in kickoffs & fg's? I did notice his kickoffs short too.

ChronoCross
05-13-2007, 09:53 PM
Reed has been getting good at his FGs so id give him a 8. But in kickoffs 1, are field position has been horrible on kickoffs.

TackleMeBen
05-13-2007, 09:54 PM
yeah, its called a Sepulveda. hopefully our new canon leg punter gets a shot at kickoffs.

well if his legs are as big as his arms.. he might be kicking the football into the next zip code:cheer:

verks36
05-13-2007, 09:56 PM
it is a good idea hopefully it helps him out during the season

Stlrs4Life
05-13-2007, 10:59 PM
It couldn't hurt. Wonder why Cowher was against it? Wonder if they could give Sep a chance at kickoffs? It might be different though. Who knows.

tony hipchest
05-13-2007, 11:50 PM
It couldn't hurt. Wonder why Cowher was against it? Wonder if they could give Sep a chance at kickoffs? It might be different though. Who knows.i was wondering the same thing stlrs. reed was asking for something that would help his game and cowher mustve laughed it off and told him to go sit with the rest of the cheerleaders (kickers).

it a common training method for basketball players to shoot at a smaller rim, or baseball players to swing a heavier bat. :hunch: i guess it just wasnt in the budget until cowhers fat salary was trimmed. :wave:

as far as sepulveda, atlanta dan pointed out that he didnt even handle kick off duties at baylor. odd how he can boom the punts yet just be mediocre kicking off a tee. i guess its a technique thing. perhaps some work with him could change this.

fansince'76
05-13-2007, 11:53 PM
it a common training method for basketball players to shoot at a smaller rim

Speaking as a NBA fan, considering the overall shooting percentages nowadays, you coulda fooled me. :hunch:

GBMelBlount
05-13-2007, 11:54 PM
Does Reed need more help with FG's or KO distance?

tony hipchest
05-13-2007, 11:56 PM
Speaking as a NBA fan, considering the overall shooting percentages nowadays, you coulda fooled me. :hunch:lol. notice i said "basketball players" and not "dunkers/espn highlight hogs" :sofunny:

"were talkin about practice, man.... practice" :dang:

fansince'76
05-13-2007, 11:59 PM
lol. notice i said "basketball players" and not "dunkers/espn highlight hogs" :sofunny:

"were talkin about practice, man.... practice" :dang:

Good point - I still like a few NBA players, but the number is dwindling.

Preacher
05-14-2007, 12:58 AM
I know Reed doesn't have distance...

However, for the problems in FG's that we have had...

I prefer to keep Reed... and hope that Spev. can kick some long kickoffs.

Galax Steeler
05-14-2007, 05:13 AM
Reed is the man on FG's

steelwolf21
05-14-2007, 11:38 AM
Reed is the man on FG's

I agree, I can think of a number of teams that'd love to have him on the roster. Is it concievable the steelers'd bring in a kick off specialist like some teams do, just some shmuck who can boom it 70+ yds every time but couldn't hit the broadside of a barn on a field goal try? (sorta like Cundiff I think it was with the boycows)

RoethlisBURGHer
05-14-2007, 12:20 PM
As a FG kicker,Reed is one of the best in the game.He's had a lot of clutch FG's for the Steelers and I think he's the only kicker to ever kick a 50+ yard FG in Heinz Field.Before Reed,we couldn't find a guy who could kick on our crappy turf,especially at the open end of the field with the swirling winds.

As a place kicker for kickoffs,he's not very good.I don't ever remember seeing him pin an opponent inside the 20,nor kicking it into the endzone.

I think Tomlin will give our new cannon legged punter a try at kicking off.If he does better,he'll win the job.And maybe that would make Reed even better at FG's because he wouldn't have to worry about his poor kickoffs.

And I like the idea of Reed practicing with an Arena League FG post.It's so much smaller,if he can get the ball through that from 50+ yards he'll have no trouble kicking even more FG's.

fansince'76
05-14-2007, 12:24 PM
As a FG kicker,Reed is one of the best in the game.He's had a lot of clutch FG's for the Steelers and I think he's the only kicker to ever kick a 50+ yard FG in Heinz Field.Before Reed,we couldn't find a guy who could kick on our crappy turf,especially at the open end of the field with the swirling winds.

Agreed - remember Kris Brown? No problem with Reed as a FG kicker, but his kickoffs leave alot to be desired.

lamberts-lost-tooth
05-14-2007, 12:27 PM
doesnt it seem like the majority of jeff reeds kicks are a few feet away from the left upright? i think this will help:

It might also be entered into the record at this point that placekicker Jeff Reed was rewarded for his persistence with a new apparatus that simulates a goal post with a crossbar matching Arena Football dimensions.

"It's nine feet instead of 18," Reed explained. "I've asked for it the last two years. But Coach Cowher wasn't a big fan of the idea."

After seeing the photo of Jeff Reed that circled the internet awhile back...I would think his camera phone would be considered an apparatus that makes things look half as big as normal.

rbryan
05-14-2007, 12:38 PM
I suggested last year that the Steelers might entertain the thought of bringing in someone who does nothing but kick off, assuming the guy can kick it thru the endzone consistantly. (I realize that if such a person even exists, he won't have the accuracy needed for field goals) I got flamed for the suggestion. Everyone pointed out the waste of a roster spot. I still stand by the suggestion though. How much did we utilize Duce last year? By most accounts he would be considered the player taking up the last spot on the roster most of last season.

How much would it be worth to have our opponents start EVERY drive on thier 20?

RoethlisBURGHer
05-14-2007, 12:58 PM
Agreed - remember Kris Brown? No problem with Reed as a FG kicker, but his kickoffs leave alot to be desired.

Don't remind me.I liked to call him "Mr. Wide" when he kicked for us.Oh,and if it was a clutch game-tying/winning FG,there was even less of a chance he's make it.He was Mike Vanderjerk without the "most accurate kicker in NFL history" label.

memphissteelergirl
05-14-2007, 01:26 PM
well if his legs are as big as his arms.. he might be kicking the football into the next zip code:cheer:


You noticed that too, huh? :wink02:

I agree with most here, Reed has been a very good kicker for us...but his performance on kickoffs is definitely lacking, epecially last season. Here's hoping the new guy can give the team a lift there.

SteelerFanInCA
05-14-2007, 01:28 PM
I'd be happy with just an extra 10-15 yards on the kick offs Reed makes.

steelersfanman92
05-14-2007, 08:23 PM
it should help his accruacy

OX1947
05-16-2007, 01:01 PM
When you said toy, I thought you meant this:

OX1947
05-17-2007, 05:36 PM
You know I figured it was, but didn't know 100%, sorry, wont happen again.

GBMelBlount
05-17-2007, 09:14 PM
You know I figured it was, but didn't know 100%, sorry, wont happen again.

OX, don't worry, Thankfully 76 has saved my @$$ too!

ircurt11
05-21-2007, 01:10 PM
Is there anything available to improve kicking distance? When's the last time Reed put a kickoff in the endzone? I can't recall it ever happening.

it's not the size, its how you use it...