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Livinginthe past
05-25-2007, 03:16 AM
Okay, this is the second in the series of polls to help build the Steelers Fever 'All-Overrated' team.

Again, this is a poll to find find the player with the biggest gap between his actual production and his salary or public/media perception.

Crushzilla
05-25-2007, 03:38 AM
While Antwaan "Ted Ginn Sr." Randle El is a glorified punt returner who got WAAAAAY too much money, I don't feel like he is really hyped up. So he can hardly be overrated in the purest sense of the word.

Even if production has dropped off in Oakland, Randy Moss is the real deal. Same with T.O. (who led the league in T.D. last year) and Chad. All three have put up multiple 1,000+ seasons and even though all three guys have explosive personalities, they can flat out play.

I feel like Plex was placed in here to draw some Steeler fan fire, Nigel... You won't trick me... Realistically, Burress was only 12 yards away from a 4th 1,000 yard season in NY last year.

While the rest of the guys probably won't agree, it has to be Deion Branch. First, he makes a big fuss in NE about his contract, holdsout to no end, and then gets shipped off to Seattle. What were they really getting? A guy who, in his five years, has NEVER put up 1,000 yards (thought he came VERY close in '05) and NEVER scored more than 5 TDs.

The 'Hawks make an in season move to acquire the guy, toss the playbook and a pair of hideous green gloves at him, cross their fingers, then, to make matters worse, decide... "hell, maybe he'll produce better if we give him some more looks by TRADING OUR BEST RECEIVER TO A DIVISION RIVAL." That is A LOT of backbending for a guy who has put up numbers similar to Marty Booker...

Branch may be big someday, but at this point it seems like a hell of a lot of eggs in one basket out there in Seattle.

Livinginthe past
05-25-2007, 03:45 AM
While Antwaan "Ted Ginn Sr." Randle El is a glorified punt returner who got WAAAAAY too much money, I don't feel like he is really hyped up. So he can hardly be overrated in the purest sense of the word.

Even if production has dropped off in Oakland, Randy Moss is the real deal. Same with T.O. (who led the league in T.D. last year) and Chad. All three have put up multiple 1,000+ seasons and even though all three are explosive personalities, they can flat out play.

I feel like Plex was placed in here to draw some Steeler fan fire, Nigel... You won't trick me... Burress was only 12 yards away from a 4th 1,000 yard season in NY last year and would probably be a good candidate if it weren't for my eventual choice.

The rest of the pack probably won't agree, its Deion Branch. He makes a big fuss in NE about his contract and gets shipped off to Seattle, but what were they really buying? His final season in NE was pretty solid, but in his five years he has NEVER put up 1,000 yards (thought he came VERY close in '05). His best TD production is only 5 (in the same year).

The Hawks make an in season move to acquire the guy, toss the playbook and a pair of hideous green gloves at him, cross their fingers, then think... hell, maybe he'll produce better if we give him some more looks by TRADING OUR BEST RECEIVER TO A DIVISION RIVAL. That is A LOT of backbending for a guy who has put up numbers similar to Marty Booker...

Branch may be big someday, but at this point it seems like a hell of a lot of eggs in one basket out there in Seattle



Nice post, Zilla.

Yeah, I put Plax in becasuse I was sure that some people would want him as an option.

This year is a kind of make-or-break for Branch, I think - he made a big deal about getting paid now its time to show what he's got.

Patriots WR's tend not to do too well outside of the New England system - Patten, Givens etc...

I think a full pre-season should greatly help, along with a 100% healthy Hasselbeck.

Crushzilla
05-25-2007, 04:07 AM
Hey, Nigel, I'm not sure what you were planning to do with this but I suggest we make an overrated team and then an underrated team and compare stats at the end of the year...

Too extensive? Just an idea...

Livinginthe past
05-25-2007, 04:27 AM
Hey, Nigel, I'm not sure what you were planning to do with this but I suggest we make an overrated team and then an underrated team and compare stats at the end of the year...

Too extensive? Just an idea...

Thats a nice idea, and I don't think it would present too much of a problem as most of the heavy stats-work is easily available.

I'll keep the positions to the purely skills based ones so that the measurables are more obvious.

We'll get the 'Over rated' team sorted...then give it a short break...then move on to the 'Under-rated' guys.

RoethlisBURGHer
05-25-2007, 08:37 AM
It's gotta be Branch.

He held out because he wanted payed by New England (I didn't realize he was playing for free).

But he's never had a season of 1,000 yards or more than 5 TD's.He's put up the numbers of a #2 reciever at best but gets paid like he's been putting up #1 reciever numbers.

All this off of one SB MVP award...which Brady would have won if he didn't fumble.

lamberts-lost-tooth
05-25-2007, 09:52 AM
Branch.

In 5 years he has averaged about 50 catches...750 yards...and a little over 3 Tds a season

Randle El averages less ....until you add the 9 TD's and 4,000+ yards form ST and passing....which gives him enough added value to nudge past Branch

verks36
05-25-2007, 11:11 AM
I would have to go with deon branch. The only reason he did good on the pats is because he had brady now on the seahawks he blows and was the number 2 wr last year on the team. now he has to fill the job as a #1 WR. The seatlle WR core is in for alot of trouble this year

ChronoCross
05-25-2007, 11:34 AM
I went with plax.

rbryan
05-25-2007, 11:48 AM
Moss, if we're talking about today and not what he used to be. He has clearly lost a step, not to mention the willingness to take a hit. Moss has always been a front runner, as soon as the going gets rough he'll quit on his team. He's proven that twice already.

ChronoCross
05-25-2007, 12:12 PM
Moss, if we're talking about today and not what he used to be. He has clearly lost a step, not to mention the willingness to take a hit. Moss has always been a front runner, as soon as the going gets rough he'll quit on his team. He's proven that twice already.

Moss would rather serve up one of them fine slushy's then catch a ball anymore.
http://www.instromania.net/PHO/art/S/slow%20slushy%20boys%20logo.jpg

revefsreleets
05-25-2007, 07:37 PM
I have a different take. I think it's TO, but only because he gets so much press for doing push-ups and attempting suicide and all the other stuff, and even though he puts up great numbers, it's always all about him and only him. The Eagles are a pretty good organization, and he hurt that whole team for a year plus.

ShutDown24
05-26-2007, 08:12 PM
It's Branch, not a doubt in my mind. Honestly though, I don't think Hines is that far from being on that list anymore... there comes a time when you?re considered to be so underrated that your overrated.

silver & black
05-26-2007, 08:28 PM
Moss, if we're talking about today and not what he used to be. He has clearly lost a step, not to mention the willingness to take a hit. Moss has always been a front runner, as soon as the going gets rough he'll quit on his team. He's proven that twice already.

Thanks... now I don't have to say it. :cheers:

ShutDown24
05-26-2007, 08:35 PM
I would have to go with deon branch. The only reason he did good on the pats is because he had brady now on the seahawks he blows and was the number 2 wr last year on the team. now he has to fill the job as a #1 WR. The seatlle WR core is in for alot of trouble this year

While I agree with you 100% about Branch, I don't think the WR group is in anything it can't handle... Engram, Burleson and especially DJ Hackett could start on a lot of teams in the league... With them behind Branch, I actually expect for the receivers in Seattle to exceed expectations as a whole... Newly acquired TE Pollard doesn't hurt either compared to Stevens...

RoethlisBURGHer
05-26-2007, 10:48 PM
It's Branch, not a doubt in my mind. Honestly though, I don't think Hines is that far from being on that list anymore... there comes a time when you?re considered to be so underrated that your overrated.

I would agree about Ward if he wasn't just one season removed from being Super Bowl MVP.

BlacknGold76
05-26-2007, 11:33 PM
I would say Moss is one. I also went with Deion Branch. It will be interesting to see how Moss does under BB system and if he will give his all now that he has TB for a QB.

SteelCzar76
05-26-2007, 11:48 PM
I would say Chad Johnson without a doubt is the most overated receiver in the league. Though he works hard in the offseason and keeps his 'nose clean' for the most part,...he's still not in the in the class of of players like Marvin Harrison or Owens. (in the regard of teams having to TRUELY gameplan for him if they have at least one above average cover corner with speed)
Honestly,...if he was as good as 'The Machine' would like to have the general public believe,....wouldn't it stand to reason that along with Douschemanzada and the rest of their receiving corps, and a very solid ground game provided by Rudi Johnson,....that they could average at least 28 points against any team in the league ?

In spite of the fact that they play the run as if,...."Nahhh,....i don't really feel like tacklin today. I'm saying,... does it really even matter anyway if they get a 100 ?" LMAO

fansince'76
05-26-2007, 11:52 PM
I would say Chad Johnson without a doubt is the most overated receiver in the league. Though he works hard in the offseason and keeps his 'nose clean' for the most part,...he's still not in the in the class of of players like Marvin Harrison or Owens. (in the regard of teams having to TRUELY gameplan for him if they have at least one above average cover corner with speed)
Honestly,...if he was as good as 'The Machine' would like to have the general public believe,....wouldn't it stand to reason that along with Douschemanzada and the rest of their receiving corps, and a very solid ground game provided by Rudi Johnson,....that they could average at least 28 points against any team in the league ?

In spite of the fact that they play the run as if,...."Nahhh,....i don't really feel like tacklin today. I'm saying,... does it really even matter anyway if they get a 100 ?" LMAO

CJ: Ike Taylor's official beeotch - 'nuff said.

SteelCzar76
05-27-2007, 12:04 AM
CJ: Ike Taylor's official beeotch - 'nuff said.



"Why 76,....what ever do you mean ?" LMAO This was not meant to get a "Ike vs Chad" response ? :sofunny:

fansince'76
05-27-2007, 12:08 AM
"Why 76,....what ever do you mean ?" LMAO This was not meant to get a "Ike vs Chad" response ? :sofunny:

But, but...Chad is just out there to "free up" other receivers when they play us. :rolleyes: :chuckle:

SteelCzar76
05-27-2007, 12:11 AM
But, but...Chad is just out there to "free up" other receivers when they play us. :rolleyes: :chuckle:



(Nipsey Russell from Wildcats voice:)
"Riiiiiiigggghhht" :sofunny:

Godfather
05-27-2007, 06:35 PM
I voted for TO. He couldn't catch an STD in a brothel.

Elvis
05-28-2007, 07:53 AM
I voted for Branch.. without Brady where would he be?
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