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Livinginthe past
05-29-2007, 08:41 AM
....... how big a problem will having a new guy at centre be?

Having a reliable guy at centre can have a major impact on how effective a QB is at calling his own plays at the LOS - alot of it is chemistry based upon games played together.

Here is an interesting article from last October on the subject.

We know of the coach-to-quarterback helmet communication system and much has been said about "sight adjustments" made by a quarterback and his receivers. But what about the man whose hands grasp the ball before every NFL snap?

What about center-quarterback chemistry?

"It's very important," says six-time Pro Bowl center Kevin Mawae of the Tennessee Titans. "The quarterback needs to feel comfortable with what is happening in front of him with protection. When a center and quarterback have chemistry, the quarterback will understand what protection calls are going to come and why that call was made.

"I have watched film with quarterbacks," continues Mawae. "We go through different scenarios and situations and work through what calls will work best for both the line and the quarterback. It helps eliminate the discrepancies that may occur during a game."

Indianapolis' Peyton Manning and Jeff Saturday have started 101 games together -- the most by an active quarterback-center duo. "The chemistry is important in that you are both trying to communicate in the same way so that all five linemen, tight ends and running backs are on the same page, and that usually starts from the center's call," says Saturday, a 2005 AFC All-Star who entered the league as an undrafted free agent in 1998.

"There are many advantages that you have by playing together for a long time," says Saturday. "You kind of add on to what you have seen in past years as you watch tape, and you grow exponentially in what you do. It's a great honor to have played as long as I have with Peyton Manning."

A veteran of 10 NFL seasons, Denver's Jake Plummer agrees with Mawae and Saturday from a quarterback's perspective. "It's very important for a quarterback to be comfortable working with his center, from a timing standpoint and the way he delivers the ball," says Plummer. "It's also important that we're on the same page with our silent counts."

New England quarterback Tom brady explains how he and center Dan Koppen work together to keep the Patriots' offense humming. "I control the communication to pretty much all the skill positions," says Brady. "The center controls the communication to the offensive line and the tight ends on how we are blocking on every play, run or pass."

Brady adds what he and Koppen work at together that few fans may know about. "Besides the physical stuff -- like actually getting the ball on every snap, which we practice every day, both in the shotgun and from under center -- it is just the way that we are always communicating," he says. "For example, on the road, when it is loud, we have to find ways that we can effectively make adjustments out on the field, so we will be talking throughout the game on the sidelines as to how we want to call the blocks."

In addition to ensuring clarity on protection calls, Mawae explains how his experience can help Titans rookie quarterback Vince Young. "I feel like I can take some pressure off of him by taking control of the line calls and making sure the whole line is on the same page," he says. "That will allow him to do his job and feel confident that we will protect him."

I know quite a few Steeler fans have reservations about the guy stepping up into the starters role (and those are big shoes to fill after Hartings retired) - and thats from a purely blocking perspective.

Are the Steelers set on Okobi as the new centre?

If so, it will be interesting to see how good he is calling protection for his other linemen, as Ben will be chiefly interested in moving the skills players around.

stlrtruck
05-29-2007, 09:19 AM
I think that because Okobi isn't new to the position, and that he's been on the team building chemistry that the only thing they will need to get down is the protection calls. I believe that can be done in the next few months and more importantly during training camp.

I, too, believe that the chemistry between a QB and center is important (especially since I was a center). And although my QB and I weren't the best of friends off the field, when we were on the field, we understood each other and had everything right! So it can be done in a short period of time and without a lot of media play.

Elvis
05-29-2007, 09:19 AM
Good write up bud...
They must play as teammates, that is the most important of this article. If everyone doesnt know everyone from top to bottom then they are in trouble.
:tt02::wave:

OneForTheToe
05-29-2007, 01:17 PM
What was it that Bradshaw said at his Hall of Fame induction ceremony? Something about putting his hands between Webster legs and taking a snap one more time - which, of course, he proceeded to do. Bradshaw wasn't a close to anybody on the team of the field, but he and Iron Mike definitely had an on the field relationship

TackleMeBen
05-29-2007, 01:44 PM
he better start watching more film and learning defenses so he dont end up on his butt all season.

fansince'76
05-29-2007, 01:51 PM
he better start watching more film and learning defenses so he dont end up on his butt all season.

I have a feeling he will. I don't think he's going to be coddled anymore - if he's ineffective, he will be pulled in favor of Batch.

TackleMeBen
05-29-2007, 01:53 PM
I have a feeling he will. I don't think he's going to be coddled anymore - if he's ineffective, he will be pulled in favor of Batch.

which he should have been several times last year. but that was last year. :wink02:

maybe this year his ego wont be so inflated

Black@Gold Forever32
05-29-2007, 02:13 PM
I have a feeling he will. I don't think he's going to be coddled anymore - if he's ineffective, he will be pulled in favor of Batch.

No he won't be coddled anymore at all....Which he shouldn't and finally he will learn to be an NFL QB....I always said Ben needed to fine tune his overall game and watch more film even his first two years in the NFL...But I'm willing to cut the man some slack for last year since he did have alot on his plate from a physical and mental standpoint....He can say all he wants the injuries didn't effect him but it was clear the injuries did..... Bottom line its either time for Ben to put up or shut up....

rbryan
05-29-2007, 02:26 PM
which he should have been several times last year. but that was last year. :wink02:

maybe this year his ego wont be so inflated

He does come across as a bit ****y sometimes, which is good and bad. Good that he has confidence, bad if that same confidence leads him to believe he knows everything already and has nothing to learn.

TackleMeBen
05-29-2007, 03:54 PM
He does come across as a bit ****y sometimes, which is good and bad. Good that he has confidence, bad if that same confidence leads him to believe he knows everything already and has nothing to learn.

very well said my friend :thumbsup:

klick81
05-29-2007, 07:15 PM
It's center.
































































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The Duke
05-29-2007, 10:23 PM
Okobi seems ready for the challenge, I hope Ben is

GBMelBlount
05-29-2007, 10:49 PM
I have a feeling he will. I don't think he's going to be coddled anymore - if he's ineffective, he will be pulled in favor of Batch.


Totally agreed 76. BTW, TMB is MANhandling this thread. Good job!!!!

Galax Steeler
05-30-2007, 05:04 AM
How big is okobi????

The Duke
05-30-2007, 03:40 PM
How big is okobi????

6-1, a little smaller than hartings but weights more

revefsreleets
05-30-2007, 06:32 PM
I'm not sure Okobi is automatically the center. I think Sean Mahan will compete for the job along with Marvin Phillips. I'm pretty sure Mahan was brought in to compete for C since both our guards are still on board from last year.