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Jeremy
06-03-2007, 05:48 PM
He has become the worst relief pitcher in baseball. He and Jim Tracy should both be fired on the same day. One keeps blowing games and the other keeps putting him in to do so.

SteelCityMan786
06-03-2007, 05:49 PM
He has become the worst relief pitcher in baseball. He and Jim Tracy should both be fired on the same day. One keeps blowing games and the other keeps putting him in to do so.

You can say that again. They need to make moves while they're still in it.

Jeremy
06-03-2007, 05:53 PM
I hope he was booed out of the stadium for that crap.

SteelCityMan786
06-03-2007, 05:55 PM
I hope he was booed out of the stadium for that crap.

Something tells me he was.

Jeremy
06-03-2007, 07:31 PM
Something tells me he was.

I'm so tired of retreads in the bullpen when we have young arms that need a chance.

X-Terminator
06-03-2007, 08:23 PM
You know, the sad thing is that Tracy didn't take all that long before he brought the hammer down on Tony Armas for stinking up the joint and relegated him to a non-factor on the team (he's still on the team, right?)...but he continues to give Torres chance after chance after chance even after constantly screwing the Pirates out of wins. This now makes 6 wins that he has cost the Pirates, but will that stop Tracy from sending him out there again? No. It's f'ing ridiculous and totally expected from a franchise that stopped caring about winning the minute the first receipts came in from PNC Park in 2001.

What they need to do is dump Torres, Grabow and Bayliss and call up Bullington, VanBenschoten and any available left-hander they have in the minors. They can't possibly do any worse.

SteelCityMan786
06-03-2007, 10:04 PM
You know, the sad thing is that Tracy didn't take all that long before he brought the hammer down on Tony Armas for stinking up the joint and relegated him to a non-factor on the team (he's still on the team, right?)...but he continues to give Torres chance after chance after chance even after constantly screwing the Pirates out of wins. This now makes 6 wins that he has cost the Pirates, but will that stop Tracy from sending him out there again? No. It's f'ing ridiculous and totally expected from a franchise that stopped caring about winning the minute the first receipts came in from PNC Park in 2001.

What they need to do is dump Torres, Grabow and Bayliss and call up Bullington, VanBenschoten and any available left-hander they have in the minors. They can't possibly do any worse.

Amen to that brother.

Jeremy
06-03-2007, 11:54 PM
I'll be more optimistic about this team the day Jim Tracy sees Pittsburgh in his rear view mirror.

Jeremy
06-04-2007, 12:00 AM
Here's the kicker, Joe Beimel got the save. Yeah, that Joe Beimel. The same guy our brilliant front office gave up on.

X-Terminator
06-04-2007, 01:20 PM
Here's the kicker, Joe Beimel got the save. Yeah, that Joe Beimel. The same guy our brilliant front office gave up on.

To be fair, a couple of other teams gave up on Beimel before the Dodgers took a chance on him. The two that burn me more are Bronson Arroyo and Chris Young - Young in particular. He's done a real nice job of making the Pirates regret that decision, hasn't he?

Jeremy
06-04-2007, 01:22 PM
To be fair, a couple of other teams gave up on Beimel before the Dodgers took a chance on him. The two that burn me more are Bronson Arroyo and Chris Young - Young in particular. He's done a real nice job of making the Pirates regret that decision, hasn't he?

You can make a whole team of former Pirates. Chris Shelton, Aramis Rameriez, Young, Arroyo, Craig Wilson, Jason Schmidt, etc...

X-Terminator
06-04-2007, 01:34 PM
You can make a whole team of former Pirates. Chris Shelton, Aramis Rameriez, Young, Arroyo, Craig Wilson, Jason Schmidt, etc...

I forgot to mention Schmidt - another Cam Bonifay special. And the Ramirez deal will live in infamy as one of the worst trades in team history, and the one that factored heavily into Bonifay finally being fired. Neither Shelton nor Wilson are in the league right now, so those don't really bother me all that much. Bottom line though is that incompetence is the staple of this franchise, as evidenced once again by Dave Littlefield considering YET ANOTHER PITCHER in the first round of the draft this week. Hey Dave - we need guys who can hit! Hello??!!!!

Crushzilla
06-04-2007, 02:33 PM
Thank God we traded Perez...

....

X is great to have around, but that one stings just a bit considering what Perez has been up to this year. And especially after seeing what Duke has been doing.

Braves fans do the Tomahawk chop

Pirate fans?

:dang: :dang: :dang: :dang: :dang:

SteelCityMan786
06-04-2007, 04:34 PM
Thank God we traded Perez...

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X is great to have around, but that one stings just a bit considering what Perez has been up to this year. And especially after seeing what Duke has been doing.

Braves fans do the Tomahawk chop

Pirate fans?

:dang: :dang: :dang: :dang: :dang:

Maybe we could have traded Torres in the X deal. But who say it would still have gotten done?

83-Steelers-43
06-04-2007, 04:48 PM
Upper management should extend Torres and Littlefield ASAP....and of course Cota. That's the only way this pathetic ball club will reach .500. :banana:

83-Steelers-43
06-09-2007, 10:31 AM
Pirates promote Kuwata, place Torres on DL
Saturday, June 09, 2007

By Dejan Kovacevic, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

NEW YORK - The Pirates today promoted reliever Masumi Kuwata from Class AAA Indianapolis and placed reliever Salomon Torres on the 15-day disabled list because of inflammation in his right elbow.

Kuwata, 38, will be the first Japanese player in franchise history once he sees action. He is en route to Yankee Stadium and likely will not be available for the game this afternoon.

He missed most of the season to a severely sprained right ankle, sustained in spring training, then returned last week to pitch three scoreless outings.

Torres, who has had massive struggles in the past week, informed the team of his discomfort after his latest poor outing Friday, in which he hit a batter and gave up an RBI single with the only two men he faced.

More details in tomorrow's Post-Gazette.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07160/792946-100.stm

SteelCityMan786
06-09-2007, 10:48 AM
Even though it was injury that put him off, at least someone can have a chance.