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Jeremy
06-05-2007, 09:48 AM
Violent Crime up 2.6% (http://post-gazette.com/pg/07156/791606-53.stm)

I'm not really sure what to make of this. Although the quote from the Nation of Islam leader was amusing. If he thinks the education system in Pittsburgh is failing, he really needs to get out more.

83-Steelers-43
06-05-2007, 09:57 AM
Last I heard we had some of the better high school and college education systems in the country. I could be wrong.

Mr. X did make one good point, "responsibility falls on people in the communities to stem the increase". Instead of blaming the "system" it's nice to hear somebody actually put some type of responsibility/blame on the people themselves.

Hammer67
06-05-2007, 10:07 AM
Bill Cosby has been doing the same thing in his speeches and talks, recently. Some hard truths.

Buzz05
06-05-2007, 10:09 AM
I would love to have the violent crime rate of Pittsburgh (I dont want any crime really but if I had to chose). Right now so far in Baltimore we have around 118 homicides for the year. And that does not include violent crimes. Per capita Baltimore is second only to Detroit in violent crimes for the population size. I dont know how they count violent crime in Pittsburgh but here they count them by incidents. That means that if there are 6 dead bodies at a single shooting they count that as 1 incident. Or if they find 12 battered citizens in the street that is 1 incident. Our numbers could theoretically be astronomical.

83-Steelers-43
06-05-2007, 10:14 AM
Bill Cosby has been doing the same thing in his speeches and talks, recently. Some hard truths.

Yeah and unfortunately he has taken some massive heat for his past comments. IMO, Cosby's comments were refreshing. Speaking of good education in Pittsburgh and Bill Cosby, he recently spoke at Carnegie Mellon University.

Jeremy
06-05-2007, 10:32 AM
I still say Pittsburgh is a safe and liveable city. But something has to be done about the return of the gangs and the rise in violent crime. I just don't know what.

stlrtruck
06-05-2007, 10:34 AM
Stop people from moving out of Cleveland and Cincinnati to Pittsburgh - that should curtail it.

83-Steelers-43
06-05-2007, 10:38 AM
Stop people from moving out of Cleveland and Cincinnati to Pittsburgh - that should curtail it.

LOL. Throw Philly in there while your at it. It could be worse in our city...........

Philly this year: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18278063/

Buzz05
06-05-2007, 10:49 AM
LOL. Throw Philly in there while your at it. It could be worse in our city...........

Philly this year: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18278063/

Philly is insanly dangerous. I have college friends that live there and when I go see them its nuts. We will watch the news and thats all you hear is how people are getting killed all over the place. It could be such a cool city too. Its a shame.

Jeremy
06-05-2007, 10:57 AM
Philly is insanly dangerous. I have college friends that live there and when I go see them its nuts. We will watch the news and thats all you hear is how people are getting killed all over the place. It could be such a cool city too. Its a shame.

Philly proper is rough. The suburbs aren't that bad though. I have family in West Chester and it's a pretty safe spot.

lamberts-lost-tooth
06-05-2007, 10:59 AM
I still say Pittsburgh is a safe and liveable city. But something has to be done about the return of the gangs and the rise in violent crime. I just don't know what.

We implemented a "Pro-Active Task Force" in our twin cities...Made up of bothof our cities officers and the county deputies....Their sole purpose was to be visible and to actually approach and talk to gang members on a regualr basis....we know what cars they drive...what neighborhoods they are from...who they hang out with..and what "circuit" they follow so that we can keep in touch with neighboring cities.

Our crime rate dropped significantly...and the "thugs" tend to go to another city in their circuit to avoid police contact...(Harder to be a thug when you KNOW that the Po-Po KNOW you... are know what your M.O. is ..)....they also tend to not "hang out" very much...because they know Officer Friendly will be making small talk with any one in the neighborhood who is out and about in the name of "community policing"

Jeremy
06-05-2007, 11:09 AM
We implemented a "Pro-Active Task Force" in our twin cities...Made up of bothof our cities officers and the county deputies....Their sole purpose was to be visible and to actually approach and talk to gang members on a regualr basis....we know what cars they drive...what neighborhoods they are from...who they hang out with..and what "circuit" they follow so that we can keep in touch with neighboring cities.

Our crime rate dropped significantly...and the "thugs" tend to go to another city in their circuit to avoid police contact...(Harder to be a thug when you KNOW that the Po-Po KNOW you... are know what your M.O. is ..)....they also tend to not "hang out" very much...because they know Officer Friendly will be making small talk with any one in the neighborhood who is out and about in the name of "community policing"

Hopefully our next mayor has his arms wrapped around this problem before it gets too big and starts to hurt the economic growth of the city.

Hammer67
06-05-2007, 11:45 AM
Well, I moved to big bad Detroit, and although it isn't as bad as it's perception, it is still pretty bad. No one goes downtown unless you are specifically going to a game or to a casino. The area around the new Ford Field and Comerica (which looks exactly like PNC Park) are nice and ok to be around at night, but some of the surrounding areas are very scary.

There really isn't a South Side or Strip or Waterfront here. There are a couple places out in the Burbs, but that's it. We have what they openly call around here "White Flight" where, after the 60's riots, white folks have moved from the city and inner neighborhoods to the suburbs and beyond. Pittsburgh is a completely different cultural makeup.

tony hipchest
06-06-2007, 02:03 PM
I would love to have the violent crime rate of Pittsburgh (I dont want any crime really but if I had to chose). Right now so far in Baltimore we have around 118 homicides for the year. And that does not include violent crimes. Per capita Baltimore is second only to Detroit in violent crimes for the population size. I dont know how they count violent crime in Pittsburgh but here they count them by incidents. That means that if there are 6 dead bodies at a single shooting they count that as 1 incident. Or if they find 12 battered citizens in the street that is 1 incident. Our numbers could theoretically be astronomical. :jawdrop: are those the stats for the whole city, or just ray lewis? :sofunny:

SteelCityMan786
06-06-2007, 02:12 PM
LOL. Throw Philly in there while your at it. It could be worse in our city...........

Philly this year: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18278063/

I'm thankful I don't live there. Much rather live in Hollidaysburg or Pittsburgh. Much safer.

Buzz05
06-06-2007, 02:27 PM
:jawdrop: are those the stats for the whole city, or just ray lewis? :sofunny:

Well its a little known fact that ever since Ray was drafted in 1996. The Violent crime rate has gone up a staggering 120%. So you do the math...Ray Ray = Dead Bodies haha
:wantsome:

rbryan
06-06-2007, 02:34 PM
Violent crime is up everywhere. Time to start construction on that mote or 10 ft electric fence around your house no matter where you live. It's not going to get any better.

revefsreleets
06-07-2007, 08:59 PM
Anyone read "Freakonomics"?