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tony hipchest
07-15-2007, 01:06 PM
CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) -- Miami Dolphins wide receiver Chris Chambers was arrested early Saturday on charges of driving while impaired and speeding.

Chambers, 28, was arrested by Charlotte-Mecklenburg police around 2:30 a.m., several miles south of downtown, said police Capt. Lisa Goelz. He faces charges of driving while impaired, speeding, and reckless driving, she said.
i only note yesterdays news cause this case is a bit unique. we finally have more of a high profile player (#1 WR) breaking the conduct policy, and i think he has no priors (not sure though).

the question is, with the zero tolerance does he get a warning? 2 games? 4 games? any suspension will definitely hurt the dolphins.

im thinking 2 games.

Elvis
07-15-2007, 01:10 PM
Here we go again Tony. When are these players/superstar people gonna ever learn? I am just so tired of hearing about these people thinking obviously that they can do Just What Ever They Want. I dont understand and I guess I never will.

Atlanta Dan
07-15-2007, 01:14 PM
Tank Johnson got whacked after his driving while sort of impaired charge was piled on top of his priors, but I thought you were not suspended for your first violation of the substance abuse policy (which I suppose covers abusing the legal substance of alcohol to the point you are illegally DWI).

Hard to believe with all the $$ these guys are making they do not call cabs or hire a limo for the night, although I suppose then you cannot sport about behind the wheel of your $150K ride - life is full of tough choices for the modern pro athlete.

Crushzilla
07-15-2007, 01:16 PM
I'd drink too if I played for the Dolphins...

Yes, Tony, this should be interesting, but Goodell won't falter. He'll give Chambers a fair suspension because if he buckles now to profile players he'll never get the respect he's trying to earn.

He has to follow through now, but I DO see sweeping some stuff under the rug later on in his career, after he has himself established. Like when Ray Lewis stabs more people in 2009.

The Duke
07-15-2007, 01:20 PM
If he gets suspended that leaves the dolphins with no reliable receivers, not like chambers is really reliable, but I just wouldn't want to be Trent Green without Chambers

Crushzilla
07-15-2007, 01:22 PM
If he gets suspended that leaves the dolphins with no reliable receivers, not like chambers is really reliable, but I just wouldn't want to be Trent Green without Chambers

What are you talking about? Trent Green won't ever have to take the field. That's why they drafted a KR at 9th overall. He's gonna run every one back...

.....

:toofunny:

tony hipchest
07-15-2007, 01:25 PM
but I thought you were not suspended for your first violation of the substance abuse policy (which I suppose covers abusing the legal substance of alcohol to the point you are illegally DWI).



yeah, i think a 1st dui just led to being introduced into the substance abuse program with more testing and not an actual suspension. however goodell has alot more leeway now. i guess the players union would fight pretty hard if the commish tried to break precedent and suspend him.

could this fall under the "conduct policy" and totally circumvent the "substance abuse policy"?

The Duke
07-15-2007, 01:27 PM
What are you talking about? Trent Green won't ever have to take the field. That's why they drafted a KR at 9th overall. He's gonna run every one back...

.....

:toofunny:

Oh I forgot about that :dang:, stupid me :sofunny:

Atlanta Dan
07-15-2007, 02:13 PM
yeah, i think a 1st dui just led to being introduced into the substance abuse program with more testing and not an actual suspension. however goodell has alot more leeway now. i guess the players union would fight pretty hard if the commish tried to break precedent and suspend him.

could this fall under the "conduct policy" and totally circumvent the "substance abuse policy"?

In that case the conduct policy would completely supersede the progressive discipline of the substance abuse policy; my bet is the NFLPA figures it will need to fight that issue out at some point, so if Chambers gets time off this may be when the fight occurs.

xXTheSteelKingsXx
07-15-2007, 02:20 PM
What are you talking about? Trent Green won't ever have to take the field. That's why they drafted a KR at 9th overall. He's gonna run every one back...

.....

:toofunny:

Dont be all knockin my man Teddy Ginn now.:sofunny:

83-Steelers-43
07-15-2007, 03:36 PM
LOL, these guys are unbelievable. Reminds me of the Collier article in this mornings PPG.....

Collier: Stupidity never really has an offseason
NFL camps open in a week; do you know where your players are?
Sunday, July 15, 2007

By Gene Collier, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

National Football League training camps will be opening as early as next weekend, including the one at Saint Vincent College, which means that players are now down to a precious few hours when they can still get arrested without officially becoming "a distraction."

I'm not looking for a flurry of last-minute hi-jinks, mostly because it's been a relatively slow summer, criminally speaking, probably because many of the fellas are mildly despondent over the demise of NFL Europe, as am I. It's not so much that I'll no longer be able to punch up Amsterdam Admirals stats on my cell phone. It's more the helpless feeling of not knowing what will become of my favorite player, Admirals defensive tackle Arstem Yukhnovich, aka the Belarussian Bulldog, all 2.02 meters, 124 kilograms of him.

Yukhnovich's teammate, running back Larry Croom, has found temporary work in the Steelers training camp backfield, knowing full well the safety net that was the Netherlands has been cut out from under him.

Ah well.

Despite this general malaise, a few of the familiar American athletes could not be deterred from keeping the authorities on their toes, particularly those working the night shift.

In fact, barely two weeks elapsed between the day NFL commissioner Roger Goodell addressed the league's rookies in a Florida symposium entitled Please Please Please For God's Sake Stay Out of Trouble, and the arrest of San Diego Chargers' rookie Anthony Watters.

Watters avoided AFC Perp of the Week honors, however, as he appeared to be a victim of circumstance. The police report said someone in the vehicle in front of Watters' threw a projectile that broke Watters' windshield. Watters merely called police, but first took the perhaps unncessary precaution of threatening to kill the thrower.

Rookie mistake.

Cleveland Browns rookie Mike Mason got arrested for refusing to leave a downtown nightclub, but again, extenuating circumstances -- it was before the Goodell symposium.

Detroit Lions defensive end Shaun Rogers got in some trouble when a stripper claimed he touched her inappropriately, a bit of unseemly business that Goodell would not likely have prevented even had he included veterans in his captive audience or even further included a brief presentation on the appropriate handling of strippers. No matter, authorities in Michigan dropped the charges on Friday, citing insufficient evidence.

The Oakland Raiders and Miami Dolphins rid themselves of troublesome entities while the relevant police reports were still being e-mailed.

Having twice tasered Fred Evans in the back seat of a cab on South Beach, Miami authorities had a more difficult time getting the massive defensive tackle out of a public conveyance than the Dolphins had getting him out of their plans. The same rush was brought by the Raiders in the case of defensive end Bryant McNeal, arrested only last week in South Carolina on an outstanding warrant issued by police in Clearwater, Fla. It was there, police say, that McNeal sold a Range Rover to a pawn shop owner for $15,000. Florida apparently has some strange law that a party engaged in selling something to another party, must in fact own the saleable item. So yes, they got McNeal on a technicality.

The Steelers probably showed the best quickness in this area, cutting practice squad linebacker Richard Siegler days before he got busted on charges of operating a fledgling prostitution ring in Las Vegas. While the club's corporate and football operations model remains expansive and comprehensive, "pimp" is still not an official position.

With the exception of Green Bay Packers' linebacker Nick Barnett getting arrested after a dust-up at a nightclub near closing time, the summer's light schedule was absorbed mostly by the housekeeping on old news. The Chicago Bears finally cut Tank Johnson after finding his name on the Physically Unable To Keep From Driving Around At Three In The Morning, Drunk Or Not list, Jacksonville Jaguars offensive tackle Khalif Barnes got probation after apologizing for calling the officer who stopped him for DUI a "KKK devil who hates all colored people," and a couple of players were forced to change their positions on dog fighting, generally from "whatever" to "against."

Mercifully, just seven days remain in the "off" season, after which, barring the imminent emergence of some spectacular COPS footage, we'll all go happily about the business of talking football in actual football terms. Because once camp starts, everyone behaves just beautifully.

Sure.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07196/801918-150.stm

tony hipchest
07-15-2007, 03:59 PM
LOL, these guys are unbelievable. Reminds me of the Collier article in this mornings PPG.....

Collier: Stupidity never really has an offseason
NFL camps open in a week; do you know where your players are?
Sunday, July 15, 2007

By Gene Collier, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

National Football League training camps will be opening as early as next weekend, including the one at Saint Vincent College, which means that players are now down to a precious few hours when they can still get arrested without officially becoming "a distraction."

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:chuckle: good stuff.

Having twice tasered Fred Evans in the back seat of a cab on South Beach, Miami authorities had a more difficult time getting the massive defensive tackle out of a public conveyance than the Dolphins had getting him out of their plans. they were talking about fred evans on the radio after he was arrested. here is an athelete actually trying to do the right thing by taking a cab when he was trashed as opposed to driving and he even screwed that up by refusing to get out of the cab :dang:

these idiots cant help themselves even if they try.

SteelCityMan786
07-15-2007, 04:15 PM
LOL, these guys are unbelievable. Reminds me of the Collier article in this mornings PPG.....

[B]Collier: Stupidity never really has an offseason

you got that right gene.

Smooth move Chambers. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

tony hipchest
07-16-2007, 01:34 PM
today we learn he was only charged w/ speeding and wreckless driving and he passed his breathalyzer when he was taken down to the station. (i wonder how many hours after arriving at the station the breathalyzer was administered. normally its done right there beside the car when you dont pass the field sobriety test. :huh:

In that case the conduct policy would completely supersede the progressive discipline of the substance abuse policy; my bet is the NFLPA figures it will need to fight that issue out at some point, so if Chambers gets time off this may be when the fight occurs.

hey dan, i bet you saw this in todays MMQB:

4. I think the league quietly opened up a can of worms with its suspension length recently. The Kansas City Star reported the league has cut Kansas City defensive end Jared Allen's suspension for two DUI incidents from four to two games. Allen entered no contest on one of the charges and entered a diversion program on the other -- hardly ringing endorsements of innocence. If two games is the basic boilerplate term for a DUI, why does a second one, in effect, get no penalty?

seems like things are starting to get a bit hairy.