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delhess
07-16-2007, 04:57 AM
i was just reading about timmons, and it got me thinking about pittsburgh recent draft picks. i feel the steelers have done quite well with their draft picks. they have always underpaid for quality (premiere) players due to their position in the draft.

holmes(2006), heath miller(2005), rothlisberger(2004), Polamalu(2003), simmons(2002)

it made me wonder, who was the best first rounder in the last five years?

Ben seems like the obvious answer, but how can you count out heath and troy? both have paid back in a big way!

will holmes step up this year show us he is well worth it? with a new offense, we can only hope.

time will tell with timmons. let's just hope that the streak continues!

Aussie_steeler
07-16-2007, 05:33 AM
If you are posing the question who has been our best first round choice recently then Ben is my choice. Why?

*Consensus top ten draft pick that fell to us. ( first round pick with the most value for the pick used,)

*Delivery under pressure as a rookie when Maddox went down. (most value in rookie season)

*Superbowl victory in second season ( who has ever down that as a QB)

* Crashed a bike and suffered an appendix disaster and still got back on the field to contribute.

* Instictive leadership that inspired seasoned veterans when all seemed doomed early in his rookie season.

Hands down its Big Ben. ( I bet the Giants would love to have their pick at QB in that draft over again.)

Steel Pit
07-16-2007, 06:35 AM
I'll go with Troy Polamalu. Ben Roethlisberger fell through the 1st round and landed on the Steelers lap. The Steelers had to do some finagling to get Polamalu.

stillers4ever
07-16-2007, 08:59 AM
i think big ben most definitley. The aquisition of ben ultimitaly landed us a superbowl. but every first rounder since about 97 has been a huge contributor to this team.

xXTheSteelKingsXx
07-16-2007, 10:15 AM
I'm gonna say Ben without him we might stil be stuck with Maddox or some other mediocer QB.

19ward86
07-16-2007, 11:03 AM
ben is a QB that an organization gets once every 15-20 years. polamalu is a safety that an organization gets every 50yrs. ben is a great qb in a better system that is why he is thought of as being overrated. ben didnt have to go into an organization like peyton or like carson so some think he is just good because he is on a good team. polamalu when healthy is the best safety in the league and could be a future hall of famer. polamalu can flip around an organizations defense by himself.so overall i would say polamalu is more valuable at the moment.

steelpride12
07-16-2007, 12:08 PM
I have to say Ben without him come on where would we be? Troy is def. second no doubt but still come on def. Ben first!

The Duke
07-16-2007, 02:28 PM
To me it's Troy, he is no ordinary safety, even though both he and Ben had down seasons last season, but maybe after this season Ben will be considered a better 1st round pick.

ChronoCross
07-16-2007, 02:38 PM
Id have to go with Ben. Ben had amazing first two season. Sure he had a down season but look what he went threw. Its his year to bounce back from all of that and become the leader he needs to be to led us yet again to the SB.

HometownGal
07-16-2007, 02:46 PM
I'm going to go with Ben here for the reason that our offense desperately needed a leader after both Kordodo and Maddox failed to fill that role. Ben has proven to be that leader and I don't think there is a one of us who can deny that. Yes- Troy is invaluable at his position and is one of the top 2 safeties in the NFL, but the Steelers' D had leaders before Troy's arrival. A defense can hold an opponent to minimal yards and points, but if a team's offense doesn't work together as a unit to produce and do their part to secure that "V", it doesn't matter how well the defense performs. A viable contender needs a distinguished field general and imho, Ben fits the bill perfectly. :tt02:

delhess
07-16-2007, 07:59 PM
if you're keeping score:

Ben : 6
Troy : 3

delhess
07-16-2007, 08:17 PM
here are some more of the steelers first round picks.

2001 casey hampton,
2000 plaxico burress,
1999 troy edwards,
1998 alen faneca,
1997 chad scott

not to shabby!

The Duke
07-16-2007, 08:21 PM
here are some more of the steelers first round picks.

2001 casey hampton,
2000 plaxico burress,
1999 troy edwards,
1998 alen faneca,
1997 chad scott

not to shabby!

How could I forget, Plaxico's got to be the best :flap:

xXTheSteelKingsXx
07-16-2007, 08:25 PM
How could I forget, Plaxico's got to be the best :flap:

No way man I got either Troy Edwards or Chad Scott. Its a toss up for me.:sofunny:

SuckItUp
07-18-2007, 09:10 PM
Ben.

delhess
07-18-2007, 09:30 PM
last ten years :

Ben - 8
troy - 3
plaxico - 1
edwards - 1/2
scott - 1/2

some history of the draft. look at 1974, wow!
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Stlrs4Life
07-18-2007, 09:36 PM
Ben/Troy P. Tie

Atlanta Dan
07-18-2007, 11:08 PM
As further indication of the ghosts they still chase, the Steelers had these #1 picks over a 6 year period

1969 - Joe Greene
1970 - Terry Bradshaw
1971 - Frank Lewis
1972 - Franco Harris
1973 - J.T. Thomas
1974 - Lynn Swann

4 HOF #1 picks in 6 years is a fairly high yield

As for recent #1 picks, have to go with Ben over Troy & Casey - making a bad #1 QB pick can screw up your team for 5 years

Big7BenHOF
07-19-2007, 12:40 AM
Ben

WWIIOwheelz
07-19-2007, 02:05 AM
Ben, no question. I'll never forget how great it felt to be excited about watching what they would do on offense again, instead of dreading the mistake that was sure to happen. Having a good QB under center made them contenders immediately, and having one with potential greatness made them Champions. That's all it took.

Now, my favorite player on the team is Troy Polamalu. He is, in my opinion, the most influential player on the defensive side of the ball in the NFL, as well as one of the best people in the sport. Trading up for Troy was one of the best moves the Steelers ever made on draft day, but the BEST move they made in the modern era was drafting the kid out of Miami of Ohio.

rog
07-20-2007, 11:02 AM
26 years was a long time... If they wouldn't have drafted Ben who knows but the Steelers would have never made that playoff run with Maddox.

fansince'76
07-20-2007, 11:07 AM
26 years was a long time... If they wouldn't have drafted Ben who knows but the Steelers would have never made that playoff run with Maddox.

Or Kordell, or O'Donnell, or Brister, or Malone, or....

rog
07-20-2007, 11:14 AM
Or Kordell, or O'Donnell, or Brister, or Malone, or....

EXACTLY!!!!!!

Elvis
07-21-2007, 05:31 PM
I guess I would have to vote for the Benster''''''' I love Troy and all but how many franchise QB's come around? Not very often. I agree to a point that Ben won a super bowl with great team, but doesnt it take an entire team effort to win a tittle?
:tt02:

yinzer-inseattle
07-21-2007, 06:52 PM
troy is a special athlete with special talent. I love ben as our QB, but i don't see him having the same elite quality to him (at least not yet). i'm with troy.

SteelCurtainUSNA
07-21-2007, 07:55 PM
I've gotta give the nod to Troy. Although he did not make an immediate effect on the team, Troy has been the cornerstone of the defense for a couple of years now and hopefully for many years to come.

delhess
07-22-2007, 12:55 PM
ben -13.5
troy - 5.5
plaxico - 1
edwards - 0.5
scott - 0.5