View Full Version : Will the patriots sign c. gardocki????

tony hipchest
07-20-2007, 10:52 PM
they might as well. seeing that they signed chad brown for another go around, they may be looking at willie williams too. pat kirwan must be really bored before he heads off to latrobe next week to write a real article or hes just old and fallen off his rocker (im thinking he's bored):

some might say the patriots are already champions on paper.... more like papyrus!


(July 20, 2007) -- I am sure most NFL fans have noticed that the Patriots are fortifying their roster for another Super Bowl run. The aggressive signing of linebacker Adalius Thomas early in free agency for big money was not in the typical Patriots style of dong business, but if anyone claims they're sure of how Bill Belichick and Scott Pioli will operate year in and year out, they don't know the New England brain trust very well. There are certain traits of a Patriots team that are back in fashion as they make their predictable run on old veteran talent :old: to fill up the roster with experience.

Half of the coaching staff is younger than the last half dozen players signed. Chad Brown (36) is the latest old-timer to sign a contract and he joins Vinny Testaverde (43), Troy Brown (36), Junior Seau (38), Kyle Brady (35), Tory James (34):old: and that youngster Randy Moss (30) who have been assembled to help bring a trophy to Foxboro. Bill Belichick :old: is an NFL historian in many ways. He's not afraid to tear a page out of a book his Dad :old: found in a used book store for a dollar, and he remembers how the great coaches of the past built championship teams. The late great George Allen would be proud of the personnel work Bill did this spring.

The Patriots have youth and enthusiasm up front with guys like Ty Warren.
The Patriots are a unique team when you study them closely. The players who play with their hand on the ground, the offensive and defensive lines, are young and acquired through the draft. The starting offensive line averages 28 years of age and the defensive line averages 26. Many teams find themselves with their older players on the lines, where experience can really matter. Belichick has been drafting linemen on the first day of the draft and playing them early. But when it comes to other positions, he has no problem with a bunch of over-30 types

What he wants to get done scheme-wise, especially on defense, makes experience critical. Having enough players on the roster who have successfully rushed the passer as well as played coverage is a very important trait for a Belichick team. Tedy Bruschi (34):old: , Mike Vrabel (31):old:, Rodney Harrison (35):old: and Rosevelt Colvin (30) all have those attributes and are now complemented by Seau and Brown :old:. The critical point to using older players is how you package them into the defense, and most importantly, how you practice.

Belichick uses many small packages on defense where one of these guys might be in for 10-15 plays in certain situations. The coach might see a need for a special pressure package against a certain offensive personnel grouping on a specific down and distance and it might call for Seau and Vrabel blitzing while Bruschi and Colvin:old: drop into coverage and Adalius Thomas puts his hand on the ground. Belichick has the flexibility to do whatever he wants as long as he doesn't wear the old guys out. That's where practice philosophy comes into play.

The Patriots have to practice smart in order to get through the season with so many "over-30" types on the roster. What you see in this group of football senior citizens:old: is also a lot of character. These guys push themselves and need no prodding from the coach to be prepared.

As Scott Pioli likes to say whenever describing his roster to me, "We have a culture in the locker room." What he means is that this team can take care of itself, police its own problems, and insure that the new comers do things the Patriot way:old:. For example, Randy Moss is surrounded by too many great people on this roster to get too far out of line. It starts with Tom Brady, but he also has to look across the locker room at Junior Seau and the rest of the players who command respect. I expect Randy Moss to experience at least all the success that Corey Dillon experienced when he turned in his Bengals uniform for a Patriots one.

The one area that has it tough with all the older players is special teams. Troy Brown (36):old:, Tory James (34):old: and many of the above mentioned players are backups and role players ... who are usually the core of the special teams. Heck, the best special teams player is 32-year-old Larry Izzo:old:, and the punter may be 37-year-old Josh Miller.:old: It is possible the Patriots punt coverage unit on any given Sunday could average 34 years of age, and that would be some kind of record.

Don't misconstrue what I am trying to present. The Patriots have plenty of talented young players on the roster; they aren't becoming a one-year wonder team intent on one last Super Bowl run. They are just a different blend than most:old:, and because the head coach is the general manager:old:, older players are a big part of the roster. A GM from the personnel side of the business would cringe at the last few signings, believing that the old timers:old: would take valuable practice time away from young draft picks, probably break down in midseason, or simply run out of gas before the playoffs started:old:. Belichick and Pioli :old:know all about those risks and don't run this team with their heads in the sand. The young ones will develop, the older ones will lead, they'll practice smart and execute on Sundays. A few of the late additions to the roster may get cut at the last cut this season and be brought back on the roster a week or two later, but they will then be in game shape, know the game plan and be ready to go.

I'm just not too sure many of them can still run down on kick coverage like they used to.

wow. thats alot of oldness

good to know the patriots have addressed the problems of their defense sucking wind in the 2nd half of a championship game.

(i never knew you cant use more than 20 smilies in 1 post LOL)

07-21-2007, 10:33 AM
First they sign Josh Miller now mabey Gardocki they must really like our former punters. Sep better watch out in about 12 years.

07-21-2007, 10:37 AM
Reminds me of the Raiders a couple years ago when they still had Kerry Collins, Jerry Rice, and Tim Brown.

07-21-2007, 11:25 AM
I think it's really stupid. Do they want to give away free field position. Even though I'd take it against the Patriots when the Steelers head to Foxboro.

The Duke
07-21-2007, 11:40 AM
The pats will be lucky if the sign him, they will never have a punt blocked again :flap:

07-21-2007, 12:03 PM
The pats will be lucky if the sign him, they will never have a punt blocked again :flap:

I think they will. (When the Steelers play against Gardocki.)

07-21-2007, 04:38 PM
I hope so:toofunny:

07-21-2007, 05:37 PM
ha ya if they sign him and we play them... say goodbye to the no punts blocked!!!

The Duke
07-21-2007, 06:41 PM
ha ya if they sign him and we play them... say goodbye to the no punts blocked!!!

James Harrison on the attack :helmet:

07-21-2007, 08:22 PM
You know...

I never really minded Gardocki... mainly because I knew that we would not have to worry about him blowing a punt. Heck, I would take a 35 yard punt over a blocked punt anyday... and it seemed that we always got a blocked punt against us at the wrong time.

Cape Cod Steel Head
07-22-2007, 07:08 AM
I would love it if they signed him.

07-22-2007, 10:06 AM
I think they will. (When the Steelers play against Gardocki.)

Nahhhh - Gardocki gets that punt away pretty darn quick. Besides - unless our new ST coaches change up the schemes on ST - if you look back, the Steelers ST's over recent years haven't really tried to block many punts. That was always one area that totally frustrated me.

07-22-2007, 01:33 PM
The Pats are either going to tear it up or fall flat on their face. On paper there isn't a more flat-out talented team in the league. Being the NFL equivalent of the Yankee's is great, except for the fact that they are the NFL equivalent of the Yankee's, if you know what I mean.

07-22-2007, 10:59 PM
I think it's really stupid. Do they want to give away free field position. Even though I'd take it against the Patriots when the Steelers head to Foxboro.

True Dat Bro!