PDA

View Full Version : RUMOR:Big Ten Possibly Considering Expansion


SteelCityMan786
07-26-2007, 10:01 PM
http://www.fanblogs.com/big10/007066.php

RUTGERS - The current darling of the Big East, Rutgers boasts one of the biggest television markets in the world - NJ/NY/NYC. The Scarlet Knights lack some of the cache that other schools offer, but you can't beat Rutgers when it comes to TV market.

BOSTON COLLEGE - Despite recently fronting a lot of cash to join the ACC, it's not unreasonable to think that the Big 10 could offer Boston College a better deal to join up. Besides the obvious geographic advantages which would give BC better options for team travel, the Eagles would also benefit from developing conference rivalries that would be within a more reasonable weekend travel distance from Boston. BC would be the second smallest school in the conference, and the Big 10's second private institution. Boston is the 7th largest television market, so you have to think that BC will be on the target list, ACC affiliation be damned.

NAVY - The Midshipmen would be an outstanding football only member, because they have both the #8 (Washington) and #24 (Baltimore) TV markets, but also have a respectable nationwide following. The problem with Navy is that it would require the Big 10 to agree to waive membership in many of the conference's sports.

UCONN - Just down the list at #28 television market is Hartford/New Haven, which brings us to the UConn Huskies. The Huskies lack the football tradition, but certainly bring some serious pop & street cred on the mens & womens basketball front. At 16,300 undergrads, UConn would be the second smallest school in the conference, roughly twice the size of Northwestern. Still... UConn would open up a new TV market.

SYRACUSE - The Orange have a reputation that would hold up nicely to some of the other Big 10 schools, which could put them near the top of the field, but play in the 79th biggest television market. There are a lot of other options above SU.

PITT - The Pitt Panthers play in one of the larger television markets currently within the current Big 10 conference... but Pittsburgh is already within the Big 10's reach. Long story short, Pitt would be at the bottom of the list for expansion under Delany's new tv-centric strategy.

SteelCityMan786
07-26-2007, 10:02 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/bigten/2007-07-25-network-expansion_N.htm

Big Ten Network has conference thinking expansion — again

By Randy Peterson, Des Moines Register
The creation of the Big Ten Network means conference officials likely will discuss expansion again, Commissioner Jim Delany said Wednesday.

"I think we need to look at it in the next year," he said during a wide-ranging interview with Register reporters.

Adding a 12th team likely will be revisited because of the network, which is scheduled to launch Aug. 30, Delany said. An additional big-name university in a large television market means more exposure for the network and its sponsors.

"It changes to some extent how you think about it," Delany said of expansion. "The broader (the network) is distributed, the more value (expansion) has.

"We have eight states. With expansion, you could have nine."

Said Iowa football coach Kirk Ferentz: "If it makes sense — if the right institution was interested — I think there would be consideration given."

The conference looked toward Notre Dame when exploring expanding to 12 teams in 1999 but the Irish chose to remain a football independent.

"There was great value there," Delany said of Notre Dame's national appeal. "There aren't many universities that produce that kind of value."

Rutgers and Syracuse could be universities at whom the Big Ten looks.

"Wherever," Delany said when asked about specifics. "With the network — there's a different element. It changes the dynamics."

In football, a 12th university could mean two divisions and a postseason playoff.

"Any television executive would do whatever they could to be able to air a game like the Big Ten championship," said Mark Silverman, Big Ten Network president. "It would be worth a considerable amount of value.

"Fans would take to something of that nature if it were in the best interest of the conference."

Coaches think otherwise, said Ferentz.

"I've not met anybody in coaching that really enjoys it," Ferentz said of the divisional playoff format.

"There's a lot of downside to it, in my opinion."

Among the concerns are playing an additional game and the potential of missing out on a BCS bowl if you lose the conference title game.

But expansion could also result in a large conference without divisions.

"I'm agnostic," Delany said. "I could live with two divisions and a championship game, but I think that has a tendency to devalue the season-ending game and have a negative impact on your losing team in season-ending games.

"I don't want us to tear ourselves apart over the structure of football for the sake of expansion."

Nor does Ferentz.

"If it makes sense — if the right institution was interested — I think there would be consideration given," he said.

Delany cautioned against rushing to add a 12th school.

"You have to build a network that has value first," Delany said. "You don't expand it until you have it built.

"Until we have a fully distributed network in the eight states, then you have a value and then you can look at expansion.

"Every time you make a major adjustment in the Big Ten, there's a gestation period. You have to allow one set of efforts to settle in, and then catch a breath."
Posted 1d 1h ago

Buzz05
07-27-2007, 07:19 AM
Say it with me now.....BRING ON PITT...BRING ON PITT....SHIIII OH WAIT SORRY...BRING ON PITT!!!

SteelCityMan786
07-27-2007, 08:26 AM
Say it with me now.....BRING ON PITT...BRING ON PITT....SHIIII OH WAIT SORRY...BRING ON PITT!!!

To the Pitt fans on this board, Buzz and I welcome your teams.

RoethlisBURGHer
07-27-2007, 12:09 PM
I would welcome Pitt into the Big 10...though I'd have to stop rooting for them due to my fierce allegience to the Ohio State Buckeyes.

It would finally give Penn State that inter-conference true rival like Michigan-Ohio State.Yeah Penn State is inter-conferance rivals with the Buckeyes,Wolverines,and the other schools...but they don't have that marquee rivalry.

Penn State-Pitt is a fierce rivalry that has a lot of history...however would Pitt want to give up that inter-conferance rivalry in the Big East that they have with West Virginia?Not to mention Pitt would be battling with conference powerhouse programs such as: Ohio State,Penn State,Michigan,Wisconsin,and Iowa.In the Big East they have Rutgers and West Virginia as thier only true challengers to the Big East Championship.

The team I would love to see join the Big 10 is Notre Dame.All that money that would come into the conferance,that nationwide fanbase.Hell,they already play a large portion of thier schedule against Big 10 schools.

However,the ideal situation,IMHO,would be to remove a school from the Big 10.Take it back down to 10 teams so you face every team in the conference,this way there is always an outright champion.

SteelCityMan786
07-27-2007, 06:39 PM
If anyone gets removed, make it like the levels of Indiana considering they've been down at the bottom of the conference

Notre Dame won't join because they're too stubborn.

Godfather
07-29-2007, 10:13 AM
Mizzou is also a Big Ten target.

They won't dump Indiana because of the basketball tradition.

SteelCityMan786
07-29-2007, 03:10 PM
Mizzou is also a Big Ten target.

They won't dump Indiana because of the basketball tradition.

That's for sure. They should, but they won't.

There is no team you can really knock of the conference though. Some Big Ten teams that do bad in some sports do better in others.

xXTheSteelKingsXx
07-30-2007, 11:08 AM
I'd like to see either Penn State or Notre Dame join just to make the conference stronger.

SteelCityMan786
07-30-2007, 11:28 AM
I'd like to see either Penn State or Notre Dame join just to make the conference stronger.

Penn State is already in the Big Ten.

Notre Dame won't join unfortunately as much as I want it to happen. They're too concerned about playing P.O.S. teams that can make the wads of cash. They don't want to step up and play quality opponents and do some revenue sharing.

xXTheSteelKingsXx
07-30-2007, 11:31 AM
Penn State is already in the Big Ten.

Notre Dame won't join unfortunately as much as I want it to happen. They're too concerned about playing P.O.S. teams that can make the wads of cash. They don't want to step up and play quality opponents and do some revenue sharing.

Yeah I dont know what the hell I was thinking I ment to put Pitt.:dang: Idiot.

SteelCityMan786
07-30-2007, 11:54 AM
Yeah I dont know what the hell I was thinking I ment to put Pitt.:dang: Idiot.

Brain farts happen.

SteelCityMan786
08-01-2007, 12:57 PM
http://centredaily.com/sports/colleges/penn_state/story/167489.html

Conference not in hurry for 12th member
By Jeff Rice - jrice@centredaily.com

CHICAGO -- The Big Ten is not looking to become a dozen, Jim Delany said Tuesday.

Offering a thorough explanation of his comments made to an Iowa newspaper last week, the Big Ten's commissioner said that adding a 12th team was not a "front-burner issue" for the conference as it prepares to usher in the Big Ten Network later this month.

"I think expansion is always possible," Delany said at the Big Ten Media Days. "But as you know, we expanded in 1990 (when Penn State joined the conference) and with the exception of Notre Dame, we really haven't had any conversations with anyone, nor do we have plans to have conversations with anyone. But it did capture the imagination of newspaper writers and radio talk show people."

Delany was speaking of a story in the Des Moines Register last week in which he was quoted as saying: "I think we need to look at (expansion) in the next year," citing broader distribution for the Big Ten Network, the all-sports television channel that is set to launch Aug. 30, as one of the primary reasons.

Tuesday, though, Delany said that the marketing opportunities that could come from adding a 12th team -- and bumping the number of member states from eight to nine -- was just one of several criteria the conference would seek in prospective candidates. The others included what he referred to as "institutional fit" and a reputation for broad-based programs. He was careful Tuesday not to say that he had been misquoted by the Register but believed he needed to provide additional context after speculation rippled across the country.

"I think it's just important for everyone to understand -- there were no misquotes there," Delany said, "but as the stories get reiterated in other media, whether it's blogs or talk radio, I think one would believe we're on the cusp of expansion and that's probably not an accurate characterization."

Adding a 12th team would allow the Big Ten to potentially hold a conference championship game in football, a prospect that has been met with little enthusiasm by both the league's coaches and administrators.

"We're not looking for a championship game," Delany said. "If we were looking for a championship game, we would have had one 15 years ago."

The television marketing opportunities presented by a conference championship game, such as those played by the Southeastern, Atlantic Coast and Big 12 conferences, are obvious, but Delany said that a championship games tend to "minimize the value of season-ending, traditional games," such as the annual Michigan-Ohio State clash, and losing those games can adversely affect the conference's bowl lineup.

"When weighing all those things, we hadn't thought at all that it directed us toward expansion," Delany said. "In fact, it might have directed us away from expansion."

Delany also used a good chunk of Tuesday's 30-minute talk to address steps the Big Ten is taking to shore up the integrity of college athletics. He said the conference is putting greater emphasis on background checks of officials, a process that includes keeping open lines of communication with the FBI.

"We get permission from the official to look at records," Delany said. "And then if you see something that's bothersome or troublesome, you ask more questions."

Big Ten athletic directors, university presidents and team physicians have approved a conference-wide drug-testing program that will, beginning this year, test about 10 percent (some 850) of Big Ten athletes in all sports for banned substances only. That 10 percent could include a greater concentration among certain sports than others, Delany said, and a first positive test would result in a one-year suspension and loss of eligibility.

Last week, Pac-10 commissioner Tom Hansen said the Pac-10 would walk away from the Bowl Championship Series if the BCS decided to adopt the plus-one playoff model, which would pit the two highest-ranked teams after the bowl games against each other for the national title. Delany took a less severe stance on the issue Tuesday. ABC has a deal with the Rose Bowl - which used to include the Big Ten and Pac-10 champions until the advent of the BCS -- through 2014. The BCS has a deal with Fox until 2009.

"We're gonna honor the agreements we have both with the BCS and the Rose Bowl," Delany said. "And really, if there's an effort to change the structure of the BCS, that will just have to be evaluated, not only by the Big Ten, Pac-10, and the Rose Bowl, but also ABC."