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83-Steelers-43
08-08-2007, 06:56 PM
Steelers' Timmons to seek second opinion on injury
Wednesday, August 08, 2007

By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The Steelers sent rookie linebacker Lawrence Timmons, their first-round draft choice, to a doctor in Philadelphia today to get a second opinion on his troubling groin injury.

Timmons, the team's first-round draft pick, has not practiced in two weeks since the groin was re-injured on the third day of training camp practices at Saint Vincent College. He also missed all of the spring drills after the groin was first hit in his first practice after being the 15th player taken in the NFL draft.

"From what I understand, there's somewhat of a breakthrough there but I'll have more information tomorrow and we'll see where we go with it," coach Mike Tomlin said. "We'll expect him back in town tomorrow. Whether or not he practices or to what degree he practices we'll see in the morning."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07220/808013-66.stm

BettisFan
08-08-2007, 06:57 PM
i really hope he gets to play come on a rookie injured thats a sucky way to start a carrer!

The Duke
08-08-2007, 07:03 PM
Damn, seeking a second opinion is never good news....

83-Steelers-43
08-08-2007, 07:11 PM
Damn, seeking a second opinion is never good news....

Just another reason why I wasn't crazy when I heard that he pulled his groin for the second time in a one month span while missing the majority of mini-camp and all of TC up to this point.

xXTheSteelKingsXx
08-08-2007, 07:14 PM
Hopefully the second opinion will find out whats wrong and hopefully they say that its only pulled not torn.

SteelFist
08-08-2007, 07:45 PM
He should at least be able to play at some point this season right? Not familiar with groin injuries nor how long they last,

Welcome To Smashmouth
08-08-2007, 08:00 PM
They should have just given him a straight week with Carmella Bing and I do believe that groin would be feeling just fine....

HometownGal
08-08-2007, 09:12 PM
He should at least be able to play at some point this season right? Not familiar with groin injuries nor how long they last,

Groin injuries can be quite annoying and some take quite a while to totally heal. Very easy to aggravate, as well. Hopefully, the doc in Philly can reach into his bag of tricks and find something that can get Timmons on the field soon.

fansince'76
08-08-2007, 09:18 PM
Damn, seeking a second opinion is never good news....

Took the words right out of my mouth. This sucks.

CantStop85
08-08-2007, 09:22 PM
Sounds a lot worse than a pulled groin if he's seeking a second opinion on it.

srk173
08-08-2007, 10:16 PM
this guy is a bum and should have never been drafted so high. I said on draft day, "Well there's another Troy Edwards or Jermain Stephens type pick." Guess they should have drafted that guy who plays LB from Penn State!

The Duke
08-08-2007, 10:21 PM
this guy is a bum and should have never been drafted so high. I said on draft day, "Well there's another Troy Edwards or Jermain Stephens type pick." Guess they should have drafted that guy who plays LB from Penn State!

Whoa, calm down, he hasn't played a single pre season game. Right now let's just let him get healthy and play and then find out if he's worth the pick or not.

Stlrs4Life
08-08-2007, 10:26 PM
this guy is a bum and should have never been drafted so high. I said on draft day, "Well there's another Troy Edwards or Jermain Stephens type pick." Guess they should have drafted that guy who plays LB from Penn State!



Amen to that. I hope McFadden, and Reid prove me wrong, but starting to think FSU guys are busts.

C-BusSteeler
08-08-2007, 10:54 PM
this is pathetic...shoulda drafted poz....i hope im wrong with this guy though

Atlanta Dan
08-08-2007, 11:44 PM
This is Tomlin's guy - about the only glitch to Tomlin's start as HC is the Timmons pick, but even before the injury nobody else had Timmons ranked as high as the Steelers.

If he was so great I question why he only started 1 year at FSU - 10 years ago that program was as loaded with talent as Southern Cal is now, but not lately

At this point all I can say is hope for the best and remember Troy had a rocky first year

OneForTheToe
08-09-2007, 12:17 AM
Personally, I don't care if he sits six months as long as it gets healed. The steelers are ok at linebacker without Timmons at the moment. Let it heal and comeback when they are sure.

Preacher
08-09-2007, 01:19 AM
Come on people...

We need to come down. Calling the guy a bust because he has an injury?

Um... Don't you remember that the year before last, we drafted a guy in the first round with a groin problem, matter of fact, the surgery to fix it was the SAME surgery that another one of our linebackers called BELL had.

Let the guy sit. Let this get healed. THen move him in slowly. He will be fine.

Will he be a bust? Who knows. But calling him a bust now is simply ridiculous.

JackHammer
08-09-2007, 04:49 AM
Come on people...

We need to come down. Calling the guy a bust because he has an injury?

Um... Don't you remember that the year before last, we drafted a guy in the first round with a groin problem, matter of fact, the surgery to fix it was the SAME surgery that another one of our linebackers called BELL had.

Let the guy sit. Let this get healed. THen move him in slowly. He will be fine.

Will he be a bust? Who knows. But calling him a bust now is simply ridiculous.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

Galax Steeler
08-09-2007, 05:24 AM
I think we should give it time no matter how long it takes and work him in slowly.

SCSTILLER
08-09-2007, 08:16 AM
I agree, we shouldn't be calling him a bust! He hasn't played a down yet, but he does have alot of potential. My only worry is that groin injuries can plague someone their whole career, surgery or not. Lets hope he gets healed up to 100% quick and becomes the player the FO thinks he can be.

83-Steelers-43
08-09-2007, 10:59 AM
Steelers' Timmons gets good news about injury
Thursday, August 09, 2007

By Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Lawrence Timmons, the Steelers' No. 1 draft pick, had an injection to reduce the inflammation in his groin and received good news about his injury after getting a second opinion from Dr. William Meyers in Philadelphia.

Timmons, a rookie outside linebacker, is experiencing discomfort and swelling in his groin area, but does not have any type of tendon tear or injury that could require surgery. He received an injection from Meyers, a groin and abdominal specialist, and was expected to rejoin the team this morning.

It is not known when Timmons will resume practice, but the injection was designed to expedite the process in an attempt to get him back on the field as soon as possible. Timmons has not practiced for two weeks after aggravating the groin injury that caused him to miss nearly all of the offseason workouts.

Coach Mike Tomlin is expected to update Timmons' condition at a news conference this morning at Saint Vincent College in Latrobe.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07221/808199-66.stm

stillhead
08-09-2007, 11:07 AM
starting to remind me of Alonzo Jackson. he panned out well for us. :dang:

83-Steelers-43
08-09-2007, 11:10 AM
It's the mascot's fault Timmon's hurt his groin. It's also the mascot's fault that Washington is dropping balls, Porter is no longer a Steeler and Faneca being unhappy. It's all the mascot's fault!!! :rolleyes:

As for Timmons, while I'm not thrilled about his injury situation, comparing him to Alonzo Jackson or Kendrell Bell is a just a tad bit premature IMO. I think I might wait...oh I don't know.....until he plays a full season of pro-ball before I start making comparison's.

On that note, it's good to hear all went well with the doctor in Philly. It's better than hearing that he tore his groin and will be out for the next eight weeks.

stillhead
08-09-2007, 11:20 AM
i agree, the alonzo reference was more directed at past fsu defensive ends/linebackers that we got ,my bad. kendrell played good when he wasn't injured. i agree, i wanna see him play, at least practice 1st. i remember being at training camp when alonzo was there. cowher yelled alonzo all day long. it wasn't for his excellent work either. :wink02:

83-Steelers-43
08-09-2007, 11:26 AM
i wanna see him play, at least practice 1st.

You and me both. When the kid actually plays his first year in the NFL and if the injuries continue, then I will start calling him Alonzo Bell. Until then, I'm giving the kid a shot and time to prove himself.

IMO, just because the kid is from Florida State (where some fine, healthy ball players have sprouted from) and because he has a groin injury in his first year of pro-ball, I'm not ready to write him off just yet. Hell, if it were up to some we would have cut this kid already. Thankfully they do not run the F.O.

Understand, by no means am I comfortable with this injury. The kid is losing valuable learning time and it is setting him back.

SteelerFanInCA
08-09-2007, 12:50 PM
The groin injury is a tough injury to heal and come back from. Hopefully what they find in this 2nd opinion will help with the healing and rehab process. I think Steeler fans are eager to see what this guy can do once he is healthy and on the field.

The Duke
08-09-2007, 04:19 PM
See people Timmons will be alright, just trust him and Tomlin.

Preacher
08-09-2007, 05:04 PM
It's the mascot's fault Timmon's hurt his groin. It's also the mascot's fault that Washington is dropping balls, Porter is no longer a Steeler and Faneca being unhappy. It's all the mascot's fault!!! :rolleyes:

As for Timmons, while I'm not thrilled about his injury situation, comparing him to Alonzo Jackson or Kendrell Bell is a just a tad bit premature IMO. I think I might wait...oh I don't know.....until he plays a full season of pro-ball before I start making comparison's.

On that note, it's good to hear all went well with the doctor in Philly. It's better than hearing that he tore his groin and will be out for the next eight weeks.

Thank you, Thank you, Thankyou...


Oh, did I say thankyou!! A full season AT LEAST...

the only caveat... is if he can't play a full season over the next two or three years because he KEEPS getting injured.... but that is such a stretch at this point that there is no reason considering it.

83-Steelers-43
08-09-2007, 07:51 PM
Here's my question of the day.......

When does a doctor, such as Dr. William Meyers of Filthadelphia, decide that he would like to not only be a doctor, but to specialize in the male groin? After PE class?

Steelerstrength
08-09-2007, 08:11 PM
Here's my question of the day.......

When does a doctor, such as Dr. William Meyers of Filthadelphia, decide that he would like to not only be a doctor, but to specialize in the male groin? After PE class?

I bet that's exactly when he got a handle on what he would do for a living! :sofunny:

Edman
08-09-2007, 10:57 PM
So...Timmons is fine? That's good to hear.

Give him a chance to screw up (or succeed) before you annoint him the next Zojax.

83-Steelers-43
08-10-2007, 12:06 AM
Tomlin comments on Timmons....

Timmons gets injection in Philadelphia; Tomlin thinks No. 1 pick on road to return at last
Friday, August 10, 2007

By Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

After getting a second opinion from a groin and abdominal specialist in Philadelphia, outside linebacker Lawrence Timmons received more than just confirmation his injury is not more serious than originally diagnosed.

He also received an injection to reduce the inflammation in his groin, a procedure designed to hasten his return to the practice field and end a period of inactivity at training camp that has entered its third week.

That was the first hint of good news for Timmons, the Steelers' No. 1 draft pick, since he aggravated a groin injury that caused him to miss nearly the entire offseason workout program, including minicamp.

Nonetheless, after returning from a visit to Dr. William Meyers in Philadelphia, Timmons spent yesterday doing what he has done since July 26 -- standing around at practice, watching his teammates prepare for their second preseason game tomorrow night against the Green Bay Packers at Heinz Field.

"We feel like there's a breakthrough in this process with him, and now it's just about starting the process of crawling him back to full participation," coach Mike Tomlin said. "We're looking forward to getting that started."

But, when that will be, nobody seems to know for certain.

Tomlin said he will not know when Timmons will return to practice until the rookie has a chance to work with trainer John Norwig. Timmons, however, was told by Meyers that his injury is nothing more than an inflamed groin -- the injury diagnosed by the Steelers -- and that there is no evidence of a sports hernia or a tear of the adductor muscle, also known as a groin strain.

Two years ago, Meyers performed surgery on outside linebacker Clark Haggans for a sports hernia, an injury that was originally listed as a groin. Haggans missed three games. But Timmons does not have that type of injury; rather, he has an inflammatory condition known as osteitis pubis, which can be caused by a sports-related injury or overuse.

According to MayoClinic.com, the condition can be painful and is treated in sports-related injuries with rest or anti-inflammatory drugs. Meyers is a specialist who has treated Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb, among others.

Timmons declined to be interviewed after practice.

"It's a confirmation of what we already knew," Tomlin said yesterday during a morning news conference at Saint Vincent College. "More than that, it provided certainty as to what we're dealing with. There are new and unique injuries out there, sports hernias and the like, and we had an opportunity to kind of rule those things out.

"We're comfortable with what we heard."

Now Tomlin hopes the process can begin to get Timmons back on the practice field and get him caught up with the rest of the rookies on the team, including outside linebacker LaMarr Woodley, the team's No. 2 draft pick.

Tomlin said he has not decided if Woodley will start his second consecutive game at left outside linebacker against the Packers. Woodley has been manning that spot since Haggans moved to right outside linebacker to replace James Harrison, who had been out for a week with a rib injury. But Harrison has practiced the past two days -- albeit lightly -- and could play against the Packers.

"That will be dictated on how he deals with the work that's given on a day-to-day basis -- how sore he is, so forth and so on," Tomlin said of Timmons. "The speed of his recovery will dictate that. I'd be speculating if I gave you something in terms of that."

Tomlin, though, has been patient with his top draft choice. Last week, he cautioned people about giving up on Timmons, saying he had a lot of time remaining in training camp to catch up. Linebacker coach Keith Butler, however, said Timmons' injury has been "quite a setback" in his development.

"Obviously, he is behind," Tomlin said. "But he's a smart guy. He's a talented guy. He has enough time to catch up. But it goes without saying he's behind."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07222/808432-66.stm

memphissteelergirl
08-10-2007, 12:38 PM
The groin injury is a tough injury to heal and come back from. Hopefully what they find in this 2nd opinion will help with the healing and rehab process. I think Steeler fans are eager to see what this guy can do once he is healthy and on the field.

:iagree:

Preacher
08-10-2007, 04:45 PM
You know... this is good news.

It shows us two things as well... 1. When it is healed, it will be healed. 2. It is legitimate, not a "Oh, I think my groin hurts in this hot sun" issue.

However this is the best thing I like about the article.


Timmons declined to be interviewed after practice.

Atta boy.. Just keep your mouth shut!

Mosca
08-10-2007, 05:06 PM
From Wiki:


Osteitis pubis is a medical condition which is prevalent among footballers, runners and other athletes, particularly players of Australian rules football. In Australia the condition is increasingly being referred to as simply "OP", especially in media covering the Australian Football League.

Osteitis pubis, first described in 1924, is characterised by inflammation of the pubic symphysis, which is the joint at the front of the pelvis between the two ends of the pubic bone. This inflammation leads to sclerosis and bony changes of the pubis symphysis, causing both acute and chronic groin pain. The condition can render sufferers incapable of sustained physical activity. There is no specific treatment for the condition and it can seriously affect the careers of footballers affected by it.

The cause of osteitis pubis is excessive physical strain on the pubic bone, usually caused by the increasing rigorous demands of competitive sport, particularly football. In such sports, actions such as running, jumping, kicking and rapid changes of direction cause the abdominal and groin muscles to exercise a pulling or traction force on the pubic bone, which in some cases can result in excessive stress and inflammation. In Australian football this risk is increased by repeated jarring of the pelvis caused when players come down from the high leaps required by the game, and also by tackling from other players.

There is no specific treatment for osteitis pubis, and it frequently causes long-term problems, in some cases ending a player's career. Management strategies involve modification of activity, physiotherapy, anti-inflammatory medication, and stretching and strengthening of the stabilising muscles. Surgical intervention, such as wedge resection of the pubis symphysis, is sometimes attempted in severe cases, but its success rate is not high, and surgery may lead to later pelvic problems.

Actually it sounds serious to me, in the sense of it possibly becoming a chronic, career limiting injury that keeps the guy from reaching his full potential. I hope it works out, not just for the Steelers but for this young man.


Tom

rbryan
08-10-2007, 05:55 PM
It's the mascot's fault Timmon's hurt his groin. It's also the mascot's fault that Washington is dropping balls, Porter is no longer a Steeler and Faneca being unhappy. It's all the mascot's fault!!! :rolleyes:

As for Timmons, while I'm not thrilled about his injury situation, comparing him to Alonzo Jackson or Kendrell Bell is a just a tad bit premature IMO. I think I might wait...oh I don't know.....until he plays a full season of pro-ball before I start making comparison's.

On that note, it's good to hear all went well with the doctor in Philly. It's better than hearing that he tore his groin and will be out for the next eight weeks.

He's not even in the same zip code as Kendrell Bell, at least Bell had a few good years before his injuries cut his career short. Right now I'd take Bells career from him. I usually have a fairly optimistic view when it comes to the Steelers, but I never liked this pick and I think he''ll end up more like Jackson.

BTW, Seminoles suck

steelpride12
08-10-2007, 11:01 PM
I just want him to be back and on the field i don't wanna waste a 1st round draft pick, but seeing with the info above he will be back and in great condition and i can't wait!:)