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RoethlisBURGHer
08-12-2007, 12:30 PM
Okay guys,who do you think will be our first round pick in the 2008 NFL Draft?

I think we will be selecing James Lauranitis-ILB,Ohio State.

This guy is a beast,plays with his heart,and is the prototype Steelers ILB.

Black@Gold Forever32
08-12-2007, 12:41 PM
Ok its way to early to predict this....But always fun to do so....Its never to early to talk about the draft.....

I would say Oline is going to be a target and the 2008 draft is loaded with Oline talent especially in the first round....Plus Max Starks,Kendall Simmons and Alan Faneca all will be free agents....I would love the Steelers to get Sam Baker the OT from USC but I don't think the Steelers will be picking in the 5-10 range and thats were Baker will be picked...

If were talking LBs then South Carolina Jasper Brinkley is guy to watch and is a bad ass....He is a ILB but also has the size to play OLB in a 3-4......I don't know how high LB will be on the list next year since we just drafted two in the first two rounds this past draft.....But Brinkley is a monster.....

The Duke
08-12-2007, 01:09 PM
A guard to replace Faneca

pittsburghp8baller
08-12-2007, 09:50 PM
i think like this previous draft, next years draft could say what we will be doing with our defense. if tomlin plans on goin 4-3 im thinking sederick ellis a DT from USC. maybe if we go OL def Sam Baker.

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-13-2007, 05:55 AM
Okay guys,who do you think will be our first round pick in the 2008 NFL Draft?

I think we will be selecing James Lauranitis-ILB,Ohio State.

This guy is a beast,plays with his heart,and is the prototype Steelers ILB.

I love Lauranitis..and he would be a great fit for our defense...OT Jake Long from Michigan would be great, but to get him we would have to have a VERY bad season, so maybe Mississippi OT Michael Oher will be available later. With Hines getting older, maybe 6'5 Limas Sweed the WR from Texas may be an option.

Jeremy
08-13-2007, 06:30 AM
Okay guys,who do you think will be our first round pick in the 2008 NFL Draft?

I think we will be selecing James Lauranitis-ILB,Ohio State.

This guy is a beast,plays with his heart,and is the prototype Steelers ILB.

I'd sooner have Dan Connor.

ShutDown24
08-14-2007, 04:33 PM
Willie Parker is one of the best in the league but I have been high on Jorvorskie Lane the past few years from Texas A&M... 6'0 ft, 280 LB junior Running back. Not a first rounder, but if we could grab him later.... :O

xXTheSteelKingsXx
08-14-2007, 04:50 PM
With Hines getting older, maybe 6'5 Limas Sweed the WR from Texas may be an option.

I like Sweed. He's a big target and I really think he could be a good big Wr that we have been lacking sense the departure of Plax.

gobig99
08-16-2007, 12:45 AM
As long as we get the last pick in the first round ill he happy!

OneForTheToe
08-17-2007, 09:10 PM
Without seeing how we do this season yet, I'd say definately O'line will be prority, but we will almost certainly still need depth at inside linebacker and D'line.

Elvis
08-22-2007, 01:48 PM
FB David Norris
5' 10" 257 lbs
He has to be the meanest player that I have ever seen. He has Mel Blount toughness and a Greg Lloyd attitude along with John Stallworth reliability and longevity. He could probably bench press 250 lbs like 50 times.. he is a Beast. I guarentee you one thing.... he would be the best Fantasy Player Ever... that is what we are looking for in this upcoming '08 draft isnt it? Are you kidding me?... It is Way Too Early for this!!! We could be drafting 1st or we could be drafting 32nd... Atleast let the season get over before you start chatting this subject up again...:banging:

Elvis
08-22-2007, 01:50 PM
As long as we get the last pick in the first round ill he happy!
Agreed!!
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MasterOfPuppets
09-01-2007, 12:33 PM
I love Lauranitis..and he would be a great fit for our defense...OT Jake Long from Michigan would be great, but to get him we would have to have a VERY bad season, so maybe Mississippi OT Michael Oher will be available later. With Hines getting older, maybe 6'5 Limas Sweed the WR from Texas may be an option.
nice call on the oher pick....he can play tackle or guard.....other good prospects if thier looking for linemen early are....
Gosder Cherilus, Boston College
Barry Richardson, Clemson
Eric Young/,Tennessee G
Heath Benedict/OG/Newberry G
John Sullivan/OC/Notre Dame C

lb's
James Laurinaitis*, Ohio State (would have to pick early to get)
Rey Maualuga*, USC
Jasper Brinkley, South Carolina
Vince Hall, Virginia Tech
Brian Cushing*, USC
Ezra Butler, Nevada

Erin Henderson*, Maryland

D-line
Sedrick Ellis, USC
Frank Okam, Texas
Red Bryant, Texas A&M
Dre Moore, Maryland

WR
Adarius Bowman, Oklahoma State
Mario Urrutia*, Louisville
Jaison Williams*, Oregon
Keenan Burton, Kentucky
Limas Sweed/,Texas:
RB
Jonathan Stewart ,Oregon 5-11...230 lbs ( replace dookie)

CB (if ike doesn't step up )
Antoine Cason, Arizona
Dwight Lowery, San Jose State
Terrell Thomas, USC
Chevis Jackson, LSU

this class is deep with tackle, lb's, d-line , and the tall wr's everybody thinks we need, but if you want a good running back to complement parker , or a franchise guard or center thier probably gonna have to grab them early.most of these guy's i've listed should go in the 1st 3 rds.

MasterOfPuppets
09-01-2007, 01:47 PM
here's a list of top one hundred prospects from a site....i highlighted some steeler possabiltys pics....i've eliminated qb's de's , i don't see us picking either on 1st daybut i left olb's because they can be moved inside

1 Jake Long, OT, Michigan At times could look like a man among boys this season, as many people already consider him an NFL-level talent.
2 Darren McFadden, RB, Arkansas
3 Glenn Dorsey, DT, LSU
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5 Sam Baker, OT, USC
6 Frank Okam, DT, Texas
7 Lawrence Jackson, DE, USC
8 Paul Oliver, CB, Georgia He's the complete package and should be the premier cornerback prospect come the 2008 draft.
9 Steve Slaton, RB, West Virginia
10 Mario Urrutia, WR, Louisville
11 Aqib Talib, CB, Kansas
12 DeSean Jackson, WR, California
13 Dan Connor, LB, Penn State Playing out of the shadow of Paul Posluszny should help him stand out as NCAA's premier linebacker.
14 Keith Rivers, OLB, USC
15 Xavier Adibi, LB, Virginia Tech
16 Limas Sweed, WR, Texas
17 Phillip Merling, DL, Clemson
18 Early Doucet, WR, LSU


22 Rey Maualuga, LB, USC

24 Antoine Cason, CB, Arizona
25 Mario Manningham, WR, Michigan
26 Kenny Phillips, S, Miami At 6-2, 205, he's a big safety who can hit and keep up with the fastest receivers.
27 Sedrick Ellis, DT, USC
28 DeJuan Tribble, CB, Boston College
29 James Laurinaitis, LB, Ohio State
30 Barry Richardson, OT, Clemson
31 Jonathan Stewart, RB, Oregon
32 Adarius Bowman, WR, Oklahoma State
33 Dwight Lowery, CB, San Jose State
34 Jasper Brinkley, LB, South Carolina

36 Brandon Ore, RB, Virginia Tech
37 Marcus Monk, WR, Arkansas

39 Terrell Thomas, CB, USC
40 Philip Wheeler, LB, Georgia Tech
41 DeMario Pressley, DT, N.C. State
42 Tony Hills Jr., OT, Texas


45 Eddie Royal, WR, Virginia Tech

47 Tom Zbikowski, S, Notre Dame
48 Ray Rice, RB, Rutgers
49 Harry Douglas, WR, Louisville
50 Gosder Cherilus, OT, Boston College Has good size and the versatility to play several positions on the line.
51 Brandon Miller, LB, Georgia
52 Patrick Turner, WR, USC
53 Vince Hall, LB, Va. Tech

55 Andre Caldwell, WR, Florida

57 James Davis, RB, Clemson
58 Shawn Crable, OLB, Michigan

60 Kirk Barton, OT, Ohio State

62 Mike Hart, RB, Michigan
63 Keenan Burton, WR, Kentucky A good combination of speed and size who can catch the deep ball.

67 D.J. Hall, WR, Alabama
68 Chevis Jackson, CB, LSU
69 Darien Williams, CB, Oklahoma

71 Rafael Little, RB, Kentucky
72 Jonathan Hefney, FS, Tennessee
73 Allen Patrick, RB, Oklahoma
74 Anthony Reddick, S, Miami
75 Dorien Bryant, WR, Purdue
76 Ryan Clady, OT, Boise State
77 Andre Fluellen, DT, Florida State
78 Felix Jones, RB, Arkansas Will struggle to stand out playing behind McFadden but has enough speed to get noticed.

80 Dennis Keyes, S, UCLA
81 Sammie Stroughter, WR, Oregon State
82 Shannon Tevaga, OG, UCLA


85 Will Arnold, OG, Louisiana State
86 Quintin Demps, FS, Texas-El Paso
87 Tashard Choice, RB, Georgia Tech
88 Fred Davis, TE, USC
89 Jonathan Goff, LB, Vanderbilt
90 Zack Bowman, CB, Nebraska
91 Adam Kraus, OG, Michigan
92 Marcus Harrison, DT, Arkansasx
93 Red Bryant, DT, Texas A&M
94 Simeon Castille, CB, Alabama
95 Jeremy Leman, ILB, Illinois
96 Dantrell Savage, RB, Oklahoma State
97 John Sullivan, C, Notre Dame
98 Mike Jenkins, CB, South Florida
99 Malcolm Jenkins, S, Ohio State
100 Amir Pinnix, RB, Minnesota

Steelersin NC
09-16-2007, 02:01 PM
I like Erin Henderson at LB and he should be available even if we pick last.

Also, I would like to see the Steelers go after some OL to help protect.
We are certainly going to lose Faneca and we are starting to ge old
in the OL. Although I wouldn't spend a 1st rounder on an OL.

I like Harry Douglas (Lvill) better than Urrutia (Lville), Just my opinion....

Go Steelers!

SCSTILLER
10-23-2007, 11:03 AM
I would love to see us pick up Dan Conner! Maybe not a first round pick in the eyes of many, but he is just a good ball player. Let him sit a year or two behind Farrior (who is getting up there in playing age) and then turn him loose. I think he would make a great MLB for the 3-4 defense, or even the 4-3 if we ever (hope not) go back to it.

Elvis
10-26-2007, 07:01 PM
I honestly Dont see the Steelers taking more LB's on draft day early this upcoming offseason. That would be crazy to do after this past year when we drafted them 1st and 2nd. I would Not be a bit suprised if Faneca stays put after he has seen just how Tomlin is, I kind of hope that he just rides off into the sunset mysef. The guy gives up plays every game that he shouldnt... how anyone can sit and say that he is one of the very best in the NFL tells me that the NFL isnt near as strong at that position as I once thought..
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lamberts-lost-tooth
10-29-2007, 09:11 AM
I would love to see us pick up Dan Conner! Maybe not a first round pick in the eyes of many, but he is just a good ball player. Let him sit a year or two behind Farrior (who is getting up there in playing age) and then turn him loose. I think he would make a great MLB for the 3-4 defense, or even the 4-3 if we ever (hope not) go back to it.

I wouldnt be surprised to see us move Timmons to ILB...with Woodley and Harrison on the outside...unless we go to 4-3...then Woodley and Timmons Could both be OLB's

IF we move to 4-3...It could be a toss up between a pass rushing DE and a O-Lineman in the 1st round.

Aussie_steeler
10-31-2007, 05:48 AM
I wouldnt be surprised to see us move Timmons to ILB...with Woodley and Harrison on the outside...unless we go to 4-3...then Woodley and Timmons Could both be OLB's

IF we move to 4-3...It could be a toss up between a pass rushing DE and a O-Lineman in the 1st round.

I agree totally. I think Tomlin chose Timmons to play ILB as well. Once Tomlin has picked Le Beau's brain I think he lets him go and moves to his cover 2 scheme.

If Le Beau stays next year we go left tackle in the first. (Barry RIchardson - Clemson)If Le Beau goes and a new defensive co-ordinator comes in we chose either a DE ( Tyson Jackson - LSU) or DT (Frank Okam - Texas) to move to the 4-3

Big7BenHOF
11-05-2007, 05:24 PM
James Hardy anyone?

Rhee Rhee
11-08-2007, 03:05 AM
i keep thinking we move timmons INside and den draft vernon gholston or quienten Groves 1st round OR OR OR we could draft a stud CB like Mike Jenkins or Aqib Talib or Malcom Jenkins or even that guy from SJSU if anyting i'd appreciate a nuts LB then we can let lebeau have more fun with 5 LB's.... we could even play a 3-5 if Lebeau draws it up because our LB's are definitely athletic enuff

Michael Keller
11-08-2007, 07:54 AM
I do not see a linebacker being picked in the first round, inside or out. The offensive line is an off season must.. It is far to early for me to evaluate any one's ability but the Steelers must come up with a stud and fast. If Faneca leaves , there is an immediate need. Forget your feelings about him on a personal perspective. The guy is not losing his ability and letting him go is a mistake. I believe they made a mistake signing Simmons and not saving the $ for Faneca. I trust the competent Steeler player evaluation team has this figured out. I don"t at this juncture

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rbryan
11-08-2007, 09:12 AM
I wouldn't be surprised by a #1 and #2 both spent on the OL this year. And maybe throw in another one later in the draft for good measure. Faneca and Starks are all but gone. Even if Faneca has a change of heart and decides to stick around for less than what he'll surely be offered elsewhere, he is getting to that age where you need to think about his replacement anyway.

xXTheSteelKingsXx
11-08-2007, 03:57 PM
James Hardy anyone?

I'm a fan of Hardy. He's a big wide out and could help to replace Ward. The problem is I don't see us taking a reciever in round oneso he would have to fall maybe even to round three for us to grab him.

SteelPerch
11-08-2007, 09:18 PM
Mike Oher should be a late 1st rounder, and can play LG, LT or RT.

MasterOfPuppets
11-08-2007, 09:38 PM
James Hardy anyone?i'd rather have limas sweed from texas.. they're both about the same as far as size and speed, but i think sweed has better hands , and makes a living going across the middle. both may get bumped from the first round because of slow 40 times.

MasterOfPuppets
11-08-2007, 09:46 PM
does anyone get to see much of jaison williams from oregon ? the guy is listed at, 6 -4 ....243 lbs !!! thjey say if he can run a 4.5 at the combine he should go in the first rd. this guy could be the next antonio gates.

Rhee Rhee
11-09-2007, 01:14 AM
idk about limas no taking away from his talent but i've never ever seen him get inbetween the numbers like ever.. they usually lob it long and he catches it cause of his height or just screen it to him and let him run straight up field... i dont think he'd be a good replacement or addition.... we already have santonio... we need a super reliable target over the middle... maybe early doucet or even DJ Hall... but DJ is a major stretch...

Lord Stiller
11-09-2007, 09:30 AM
I'm still for rebuilding the O-line with atleast 2 day one draft picks (tackle first then either a center or guard)

Rhee Rhee
11-10-2007, 04:22 AM
okay ya... i gave up on all possibilites of a DB in round 1 so im thinking O-line or LB.. im still sold on timmons going inside and us gettin quientein groves that'd be amazing or we could draft michael oher or godsier cherrilus or ryan clady or a late riser could be barry richardson

MasterOfPuppets
11-10-2007, 02:17 PM
okay ya... i gave up on all possibilites of a DB in round 1 so im thinking O-line or LB.. im still sold on timmons going inside and us gettin quientein groves that'd be amazing or we could draft michael oher or godsier cherrilus or ryan clady or a late riser could be barry richardson
barry richardson has bust written all over him. he's another max starks. he will probably have the worst 40 time in the entire draft.

Preacher
11-10-2007, 05:54 PM
How about... in the later rounds, Matt Slater, UCLA.

He is a FS, but that is not why we draft him. The kid is FAST... and a VERY good punt/kick returner. Also, when we lose Carter as SS (he is getting old), it gives us a 4th safety.

MasterOfPuppets
11-10-2007, 06:38 PM
How about... in the later rounds, Matt Slater, UCLA.

He is a FS, but that is not why we draft him. The kid is FAST... and a VERY good punt/kick returner. Also, when we lose Carter as SS (he is getting old), it gives us a 4th safety.
do you mean denis keyes ?

zoneblitz43
11-11-2007, 08:38 AM
I would take the best player available on a position of need (OL, WR, ILB) like James Laurinaitis, Malcom Kelly, or Michael Oher, which will depend on where we fall, which looks to be pick 25-32 based on our season so far. Laurinaitis and Kelly will likely be gone by then, so Oher would be a decent pick. I'd take Kirk Barton in the 2nd round, we really need a good RT. Starks and Colon are both terrible. Also, Ryan Clady is an option if he enters the 2008 draft.

Rhee Rhee
11-15-2007, 02:33 AM
ok im narrowing my picks down to 4 guys that we mite get in the 1st... michael oher, quienten groves, aqib talib, godsier cherrilus... im getting a good feelin about aqib talib because there was a great SI article on the kid... he seems perfect for mike tomlin to mold and make into a antoine winfield DB... and he plays reciever FYI caught 4tds for kansas

revefsreleets
11-16-2007, 12:39 PM
I see OL with at least the first pick, maybe the first two.

Michael Oher OG Ole Miss
Will Arnold OG LSU
Andrew Bain, OG Thug U
Devin Claork OG New Mexico
Adrew Crummey OG Maryland

Anyone see the trend here?

Rhee Rhee
11-16-2007, 05:26 PM
Will Arnold is a no-no... ik he's from LSU and what do uk alan faneca is a tiger but no will arnold is a bust... and as masterofpuppets thinks of barry richardson i think of will arnold..

MasterOfPuppets
11-16-2007, 06:28 PM
I see OL with at least the first pick, maybe the first two.

Michael Oher OG Ole Miss
Will Arnold OG LSU
Andrew Bain, OG Thug U
Devin Claork OG New Mexico
Adrew Crummey OG Maryland

Anyone see the trend here?other than oher , i doubt any of these guys will go before the 4th rd.

revefsreleets
11-16-2007, 09:06 PM
I think you are missing my point.

Elvis
11-17-2007, 06:31 AM
I hadnt heard the thing about moving Timmons to MLB.. but if the Steelers plan on doing that then my pick here would change. The MLB out of Illinois Jeremy Leman at 6'3" 243 lbs. sounds like a tackling machine. And James Farrior is getting up in the years and I dont know if Larry Foote is ready to be that leader that Farrior is.
I also think that the Steelers need to replace Allen Faneca whether or not he stays. And I also think that the Steelers need to start thinking about a NT as well.
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Jeremy
11-17-2007, 03:13 PM
I'd have to say offensive line is going to be the pick.

MasterOfPuppets
11-17-2007, 03:33 PM
I think you are missing my point. i thought it was too take a guard....:hunch:....

revefsreleets
11-17-2007, 05:33 PM
Well, ya, but I don't want to waste picks. Some of these guys are ranked in the 100's. I'm just saying draft a guard.

revefsreleets
11-19-2007, 10:12 AM
1. ROT
2. LOG
3. ROG
4. C
5. LOT

These are the Steelers needs in order.

MasterOfPuppets
11-19-2007, 07:12 PM
1. ROT
2. LOG
3. ROG
4. C
5. LOT

These are the Steelers needs in order.i'm thinking .....
left tackle- first
left guard second -
center- third
right guard -mahan
right tackle - marvel smith
simmons would be an upgrade backup over keomatu
keep colon as backup

Black@Gold Forever32
11-19-2007, 07:35 PM
i'm thinking .....
left tackle- first
left guard second -
center- third
right guard -mahan
right tackle - marvel smith
simmons would be an upgrade backup over keomatu
keep colon as backup

God you're a genius...I have been screaming for the Steelers to draft a true LT for years.......I'm totally with you bro.....I would like a center in the 2nd though but an OG is also fine.....That kid from Oregon State who is an OG but he might be able to play center is really a interesting prospect to me...Plus he weighs 317....I think the Steelers need a bigger center that can get the push on the huge NTs across the NFL.....

But our minds are on the same track..........The drafting of a true LT will push Smith to RT.....So both OT spots would be an ugrade....If people can't think rookie LTs can't start right off the bat....I say just look at Marcus McNeil, Joe Thomas and Tony Ugoh.....Those guys have started from the start in their rookie years for the Chargers,Browns and Colts....

The drafting of a center would push Mahan to OG....I think Mahan could be a solid OG...He is average at best as a center....I just doesn't think he has the strength to handle those big NTs......

I agree with drafting a OG to......But I wouldn't want three rookies to start right away next year along the Oline....Let Simmons,Kemoeatu or even Willie Colon battle for the OG spot.....I read after Colon was drafted that he could be better suited as an OG....

But Olne needs to be the focal point no doubt.....

revefsreleets
11-19-2007, 07:52 PM
You guys keep stealing my thunder! I was again being sarcastic and there you go all making sense and whatnot!

MasterOfPuppets
11-19-2007, 08:39 PM
God you're a genius...I have been screaming for the Steelers to draft a true LT for years.......I'm totally with you bro.....I would like a center in the 2nd though but an OG is also fine.....That kid from Oregon State who is an OG but he might be able to play center is really a interesting prospect to me...Plus he weighs 317....I think the Steelers need a bigger center that can get the push on the huge NTs across the NFL.....

But our minds are on the same track..........The drafting of a true LT will push Smith to RT.....So both OT spots would be an ugrade....If people can't think rookie LTs can't start right off the bat....I say just look at Marcus McNeil, Joe Thomas and Tony Ugoh.....Those guys have started from the start in their rookie years for the Chargers,Browns and Colts....

The drafting of a center would push Mahan to OG....I think Mahan could be a solid OG...He is average at best as a center....I just doesn't think he has the strength to handle those big NTs......

I agree with drafting a OG to......But I wouldn't want three rookies to start right away next year along the Oline....Let Simmons,Kemoeatu or even Willie Colon battle for the OG spot.....I read after Colon was drafted that he could be better suited as an OG....

But Olne needs to be the focal point no doubt..... "it's elementary my dear watson"......the reason i put G, before center,is guards have more value, plus there's not a strong crop of centers this year and i don't see any that are head and shoulders above the rest.. there's a pile of teams with big needs across the line, so if they want a quality G or T, thier gonna have to get em in the first 2 rds.
kemeotu and essex are RFA next year, after seeing them in preseason, i don't think either should get an offer. plus the departure of faneca and fatass......i mean starks, that would leave us needing 2 tackles,and 2 guards......so center should be put on the back burner.

what's the worst thing that could happen having 3 rookies start....give up 31 sacks in 10 games instead of 30? at least the rookies have a chance of getting better ...

lamberts-lost-tooth
11-20-2007, 03:35 PM
"it's elementary my dear watson"......the reason i put G, before center,is guards have more value, plus there's not a strong crop of centers this year and i don't see any that are head and shoulders above the rest.. there's a pile of teams with big needs across the line, so if they want a quality G or T, thier gonna have to get em in the first 2 rds.
kemeotu and essex are RFA next year, after seeing them in preseason, i don't think either should get an offer. plus the departure of faneca and fatass......i mean starks, that would leave us needing 2 tackles,and 2 guards......so center should be put on the back burner.

what's the worst thing that could happen having 3 rookies start....give up 31 sacks in 10 games instead of 30? at least the rookies have a chance of getting better ...

I could see a scenerio where we draft Jeff Otah and then move Colon to RG...and since there are very few stud centers in the league...we may have to look in the third round for project player.

Rhee Rhee
11-23-2007, 02:30 AM
ok look timmons is a playmaker who i think can play any LB position.. that being said he moves inside to add a whole new formation for Dick Leabeau.. that being said we need another OLB/DE hybrid because whenever the opposing offense is on third and long we can't seem to get enough pressure on the QB giving him enough time to look through progressions and find an open reciever... if we draft another OLB/DE like say vernon gholston or quienten groves we'll be set with one of them and Lamarr Woodley pressuring the QB all day... IK our o-line is a huge issue and thats why i say in the second we can get a Jeff otah or Chris Williams of vandy... and in 3rd we get a reciever by the name of juaqin iglesias.. who has a chance to be the next hines ward.. plays a lot like him... makes very tough catches in in traffic. the only thing is that he's a junior and probably will come bak for his senior season.

so day one and first pick of day two look like this

1. Vernon Gholston Ohio State / Quitenten Groves Auburn... Both OLB/DE tweeners
2. Chris Williams Vanderbilt / Jeff Otah Pittsburgh... Both OT
3. Juaquin Iglesias Oklahoma (if he comes out) / Keenan Burton Kentucky... Both WR

Rhee Rhee
11-25-2007, 03:10 AM
ugh.. the problem i have of deciding who we should get is that the o-line is soo bad... but yet our defense could become next years dolphins... well no not that bad but maybe in a year or two. because farrior is over 30 townsend over 30....clark h. is a FA i tink after dis or next season.. aaron is over 30 and ya.. our team could look real old real fast... so idk... LB or OT/OG soo hard to choooose. i still think LB and go O line rest of the way.

btw I am a complete draftgeek kinda guy and if you go to nfldraftcountdown.com they give really good mock draft links.

Elvis
11-25-2007, 08:43 AM
According to the NFL.com website this is the Top 10 Teams in the draft.. and this is how I see the draft going at this time:
1. Dolphins DE Chris Long Virgina
2. Jets DT Glenn Dorsey LSU
3. Rams OT Jake Long Michigan
4. 49ers QB Matt Ryan Boston College
5. Raiders RB Darren McFadden Arkansas
6. Falcons QB Brian Brohm Louisville
7. Bengals DE Calais Campbell Miami, FLA
8. Saints OT Ryan Clady Boise St.
9. Vikings QB Andre Woodson Kentucky
10. Chiefs ILB James Laurinaitis Ohio State
STEELERS....
LOT Sam Baker USC
6'5" 312 lbs
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GBMelBlount
11-28-2007, 08:52 AM
I was surprised we didn't address the O-line early in the last draft. So I agree with looking O-line early and often this year. I wonder if this line is as bad as the one Maddox had.

MasterOfPuppets
11-28-2007, 08:15 PM
I was surprised we didn't address the O-line early in the last draft. So I agree with looking O-line early and often this year. I wonder if this line is as bad as the one Maddox had.i was way beyond suprised....to put it mildley,i was po'ed. i felt oline was our biggest need last year, just as much as i do this year. granted, we did need lber's for depth and the future, but i felt the line needed upgraded NOW !!! we need new starters NOW!!! damned if i wasn't right !!! We could've had ben grubbs, justin blaylock,or tony ugoh, AND ,had an extra draft pick !!! all three were immediate starters, and could've EASILY, cracked our starting line. indy felt so good about ugoh, he gets to cover golden boy mannings blind side ! i'm not knocking woodley or timmons, but i don't get drafting lb'ers to ride the pine,when your line is in obvious caos, and there were guys who could have helped immediatly, and got a year of experience under thier belt. there's a pile of quality lb'ers in this coming draft, i'm sure they could've had guys just as good , and at a cost,lower than what we got. ...maybe a combo of quintin groves and erin henderson...:wink02:

Rhee Rhee
11-30-2007, 03:14 AM
as much as i hate to be draftin O-linemen in the first round we can't do much about it... and i think michael oher will be our pick... if only we still had russ grimm to teach him the ways...

19ward86
11-30-2007, 03:18 PM
i truly think that a RT is the only position available for us to draft, unless randy moss jr is in the draft.

Dynasty
11-30-2007, 04:10 PM
i truly think that a RT is the only position available for us to draft, unless randy moss jr is in the draft.

What college does he play for? :dang:

MasterOfPuppets
11-30-2007, 06:33 PM
as much as i hate to be draftin O-linemen in the first round we can't do much about it... and i think michael oher will be our pick... if only we still had russ grimm to teach him the ways...you mean if we had grimm,oher could be as good as smith simmons and starks ? no thanks..:coffee:

Rhee Rhee
11-30-2007, 07:26 PM
you mean if we had grimm,oher could be as good as smith simmons and starks ? no thanks..:coffee:

nah if we had grimm we'd turn oher into faneca or something like him.... hopefully...

Aussie_steeler
11-30-2007, 10:12 PM
Center isnt a real strong position in this draft... Most boards that I show have Cody Wallace from Texas A&M or Steve Justice from Wake Forest as the best and they could be available to us in the third round. ...but I will give you a sleeper that I think fits our program....Doug Legursky out of Marshall...he is a scrapper with a mean streak.

This draft is top heavy with quality OT's and LB's...and we could (probably) walk away with Pittsburgh's OT Otah, Illinois ILB Leman..and a decent Center in the first three rounds.

Third round sounds like Cody Wallace of Texas A&M would be a good option if Justice is gone. He sounds like a natural leader
A punishing blocker, Wallace averaged nearly 15 knockdown blocks per game and graded out at 87 percent on 890 scrimmage snaps in 2007. Wallace had just two mental errors in 12 games for an incredible 99.8 assignment success rate. ?Cody Wallace is a phenomenal football player and a phenomenal young man,? Aggie offensive line coach Jim Bob Helduser said

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=8970

LLT's assessment of Legursky from Marshall looks like it is right on the money. He could be a steal late in the 6th or 7th. He sounds like a beast that is raw.

Legursky, a senior center, is a two-time All Conference USA selection that has started 32 consecutive games for the Thundering Herd. The Beckley native ranks among the strongest football players in the nation and holds Marshall weight room records for the squat (705 pounds) and the hang clean (430 pounds).

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=56407

Maybe one thing that needs to be considered by Tomlin is to find the best offensive line coach out there to bring in the new talent and oversee their development. Maybe the quality of O line play has a strong correlation with the quality of the coach of this unit.

I just have a gut feeling that Tomlin would love to beef up the defensive line for next year in the second round. Having a big DE/DT guy in the Aaron Smith mould (Tyson Jackson LSU??) that could spell a starter in the 3-4 or start in a 4-3 line beside the current front 3.

MasterOfPuppets
11-30-2007, 10:46 PM
i seriously doubt tyson jackson lasts too long .....IF He somehow slips to rd 2.

Rhee Rhee
12-02-2007, 03:51 AM
we also might draft another reciever..... just for a grooming roll to hines ward... a mid-rounder that has serious talent is jason rivers... the reciever out of Hawaii... because im from hawaii i get to see him all the time and he is the real deal... just look at him in the game against washington... 4Td's and in a game against arizona st last year.. 300 some yards recievin.. he's a tenacious blocker too and good size... 6'3 185-190... he mite be available in the third.. hopefully we'll trade up to land him...

Elvis
12-02-2007, 09:15 AM
:coffee: I think that the Steelers should definitely get Offensive and Defensive Lines help.

Godfather
12-05-2007, 10:45 AM
We're thin at the RB position and we could use a hammer for short yardage situations. I think Jacob Hester from LSU would look great in black and gold.

#1LambertFan
12-05-2007, 08:25 PM
Without seeing how we do this season yet, I'd say definately O'line will be prority, but we will almost certainly still need depth at inside linebacker and D'line.

I really think D-line is one of the things we should worry least about. We have a great line just they lack the pressure of a 4-3 defense. I believe we should better organize our linebackers and blitzing schemes. No offense to Dick Labeau he's the best in the league but he (in my opinion) needs to start thinking about how these new LB's can be used and stop focusing on the strong points of previous players. With Deshea Townsend, although still very youthful, is getting old and we need a top end corner to step up and take his place and add more fear to the Pittsburgh secondary. Not only is he a great CB, he is also a talented return man, and i believe the Steelers need to acknowledge their issues with special teams nearly as much as their O-line. Face the facts, the chances are that we can't get Laurinaitus, seeing as how he is projected to be picked in the top 15 in nearly every mock draft and we are looking at no better than a late 20's pick. Although we should not be complaining about this.

#1LambertFan
12-05-2007, 08:30 PM
If we start the draft off with a player at O-line i would say most definately Otah out of Pittsburgh. Not only is he a great player but he will fit right in on the count of 4 years experience playing football in the greatest city on earth.

Rick5895
12-06-2007, 07:20 AM
I love Defence too, but a LB doesn't make sense, The OL has been very average this year and with Faneca probably leaving they need a guard.

Rhee Rhee
12-07-2007, 12:46 AM
We have a great line just they lack the pressure of a 4-3 defense.

defensive ends in a 3-4 are NOT supposed to blitz... they're supposed to suck up double teams to allow the OLB's to blitz and sack nimrods like tom brady :wink02:

i really want vernon gholston out of ohiostate or Quintein groves out of Auburn or if we can't get either... shawn crable out of michigan.. but that one is a worst case scenario...

#1LambertFan
12-09-2007, 12:17 PM
I'd like to see us get Laurinitus but that is pretty much out of the question unless we trade up.

lamberts-lost-tooth
12-10-2007, 07:16 AM
I'd like to see us get Laurinitus but that is pretty much out of the question unless we trade up.

Man I would LOVE to see that...but this draft is so deep at LBer, I think we will grab an OT and look at LB in the 3rd or 4th round. If you get a chance, watch J. Leman from Illinois during the Rose bowl. He is the real deal and doesnt get the ink that Laurinitus and Connor get.

revefsreleets
12-10-2007, 03:39 PM
Out of all the Buckeyes, I'd MOST like to snag Malcolm Jenkins. He's a shutdown stud, started all 3 years, covers the best opposing WR every game, and led the team in tackles last year, so you know he obviously craves contact. Ike on one side and Jenkins on the other is a formidable D secondary. When Anthony Smith learns the game and we resign Polamalu, we'd easily have the strongest secondary in the NFL.

MasterOfPuppets
12-10-2007, 07:24 PM
Out of all the Buckeyes, I'd MOST like to snag Malcolm Jenkins. He's a shutdown stud, started all 3 years, covers the best opposing WR every game, and led the team in tackles last year, so you know he obviously craves contact. Ike on one side and Jenkins on the other is a formidable D secondary. When Anthony Smith learns the game and we resign Polamalu, we'd easily have the strongest secondary in the NFL.i wouldn't be suprised at all ,if the pats snagged jenkins within the first five picks.

zoneblitz43
12-10-2007, 07:25 PM
I agree, Jenkins is a great player, however he would require trading up. After last night's disaster against the Pats it's obvious we need a top notch corner. If Jenkins is no longer there I would go for Antoine Cason from Arizona, he impressed me in the win against Oregon and he can return kicks and punts, which means he would immediately fill 2 needs.

Jeremy
12-10-2007, 07:28 PM
If it's anything but an offensive lineman I'll be really pissed.

Our line is terrible and needs a lot of work. At least one guard, a real center, and a decent left tackle in that order.

After the line is probably a wide receiver.

MasterOfPuppets
12-10-2007, 08:20 PM
If it's anything but an offensive lineman I'll be really pissed.

Our line is terrible and needs a lot of work. At least one guard, a real center, and a decent left tackle in that order.

After the line is probably a wide receiver.i concur. but i don't agree with your order of picking. ryan kalil was last years top center and he lasted till the 59th pick in the 2nd. i don't believe any of this years crop of centers are graded anywhere near kalil, so i think you hold of till 3rd rd to look for a center. as far as guards go, there really isn't any "true" guards worthy of even a late 1st pick, unless you go with a tackle like micheal oher,and move him to guard. i'd wait till the 2nd, and snag a guy like drew radovich from USC. the value for left tackles has gone through the roof these days and with the cap ,it's almost impossible to keep a great one, and free agency isn't a steeler option, so if they want quality and an immediate upgrade , there almost gonna have to use that first pick on one. there's about 5 that fit the ticket this year.

GBMelBlount
12-10-2007, 08:26 PM
I agree with both of you. Based on NEED I think it's O-Line all the way. I honestly thought that would be the focus last draft.

revefsreleets
12-11-2007, 09:33 AM
Oh, there's no chance we'll get Gholston, Little Animal or Jenkins. I'm just saying I think he's the best of the bunch.

pittsburghp8baller
12-11-2007, 01:21 PM
i would like to see us go after cason or jenkins. i think if we jus moved some people around on the o-line (maybe along with our 2nd round going to the o-line) we could be just fine

Rhee Rhee
12-13-2007, 01:35 AM
i F-ing hate how the patriots now have a top 5 pick even though they cheated i mean WTF how is that possible.... goodell should have actually given a punishment to the patriots and not screw the niners over.... we need O-line or OLB.... vernon!!! yIppeeee if he comes out and we don't get him ima cry.... i think we'll have a chance at one either quienten or vernon just because only arizona,pats,ravens,browns,dallas,chargers and i think that's it are the teams that run a BASE 3-4 defense....

Rhee Rhee
12-13-2007, 02:26 AM
btw i would like anyone but justin king from pennsate... the kid has major attitude problems and although he is blazing fast.. his game is so raw that we can't afford to use a pick that will benefit us only 3 years later... he got manhandled... no embarrased... no schooled against james hardy... so idk bout this kid... brian robiskie too

Aussie_steeler
12-13-2007, 07:01 AM
too bad he does it with yard per carry average of less than 4.0.... we need willie to lose all that muscle and we need to pick up marion barber thru freeagency.... maybe even ditch willie for marion because marion is just a hard runner much like a skinny jerome

If your suggesting that the steelers are trading Willie ( not on IMO but I'll play along) what is his value and what team playing on an artificial surface will want him?

Secondly what picks would Barber cost to get as a RFA? Do you see this as almost an even break even scenario where the picks for Willie will ultimately offset the picks for Barbers compensation.

I am keen to see what picks you feel each player is worth.

LambertIsGod58
12-13-2007, 08:05 AM
I was pissed we passed on Posluszny...Great story if he'd had been picked.

Rhee Rhee
12-13-2007, 06:33 PM
I like Sweed. He's a big target and I really think he could be a good big Wr that we have been lacking sense the departure of Plax.

all sweed does is run fades and jump up for jump balls... that's great and all but we already have a deep threat named santonio... we need a guy that's consistent enough that we can gun him the ball over the middle....

Rhee Rhee
12-13-2007, 06:36 PM
If your suggesting that the steelers are trading Willie ( not on IMO but I'll play along) what is his value and what team playing on an artificial surface will want him?

Secondly what picks would Barber cost to get as a RFA? Do you see this as almost an even break even scenario where the picks for Willie will ultimately offset the picks for Barbers compensation.

I am keen to see what picks you feel each player is worth.


idk what i was thinkin man.. im sorry lol i was so mad about the pats game restricted FA cost 1st and a 3rd i think... obviously marion is not worth it but.. hey look what seattle did for deion branch... although he has done nothing for them

lilyoder6
12-13-2007, 08:14 PM
i still think king is a great player.. if people wrote off evryone for having a 1 or 2 bad games... evryone would be shitty...

PisnNapalm
12-13-2007, 08:23 PM
I believe that the Steelers will be taking the last pick of the first round. nuff said. :P that is all.

TasmanianTroy271
12-16-2007, 05:59 PM
Michael Oher - OT - Ole Miss
or
Jeff Otah - OT - Pittsburgh

MasterOfPuppets
12-17-2007, 12:21 AM
Michael Oher - OT - Ole Miss
or
Jeff Otah - OT - Pittsburghor gosder cherilus / BC
ryan clady / Boise st
one of those 4 guys WILL, be available !!!

Elvis
12-17-2007, 08:28 PM
:coffee: Here is some new names for ya...
FS Thomas DeCoud 6'2" 205 lbs. California
sounds to me like this young man is a very agressive run supporter and is not bad in pass coverage as well.
ILB Vince Hall 6'0 238 lbs. VA Tech
Awesome tackler and run supporter that needs work
on his pass coverage skills. Remember... Farrior is not getting any younger.
DT Frank Okam 6'5" 320 lbs Texas
I know what your thinking... what about Hampton?.. He is not 21 anymore, and we need someone to help him out.
DT Kentwan Balmer UNC
This young man made so many big plays for the Tar-Heels this past season. The Heels were one of the youngest teams in the Nation on defense last year and Butch Davis loves this young man's desire and motor that runs wide open on every play... he is probably a late 2nd or 3rd rounder in my opinion.
DE Tyson Jackson 6'5" 292 LSU *Jr.*
Very quick pass rusher that the scouts on footballsfuture.com is very high on and he is overshadowed by their big time DT down there in Louisiana..

TasmanianTroy271
12-18-2007, 12:39 AM
"very agressive run supporter and is not bad in pass coverage as well."

Sounds like a certain Free Saftey out of Syracuse. Plus, with those DT's you mentioned, we have Casey and Hokey locked up until 2009. I do like the sounds of thay ILB and DE though. They sound like the kinds of guys that could be had in the middle rounds and would make nice depth

MasterOfPuppets
12-18-2007, 12:46 AM
After seeing them play without Aaron Smith today, I really wonder if they shouldn't address the D line before the Oline. We are obviously one injury away from being a average run defense and a no sack getting pass defense. The question that has to raised if your going to get a DE is wether or not we are doign the 4-3 thing.and we only one big hit away from having charlie batch as a starter !!! didn't we just draft 2 pass rush " specialist " ?

MasterOfPuppets
12-18-2007, 12:53 AM
ILB Vince Hall 6'0 238 lbs. VA Tech
Awesome tackler and run supporter that needs work
on his pass coverage skills. Remember... Farrior is not getting any younger.

i'd love to land vince hall, but he'll be long gone before our 2nd pick. if jasper brinkly doesn't redshirt, he'd be a great pick up in the 3rd.
beau bell of unlv would also be a good 3rd rd pick.

MasterOfPuppets
12-18-2007, 09:01 PM
You can't get any pass rush in a 3-4 without a good DE taking up blockers. This O line can play well with a few minor tweaks and getting guys playing where they should. One solid rookie or FA signing could go a long way. I really don't agree with the people that call for them all to get cut.one ??? so which "one" position is going to right the ship?? i'm thinking 2 minimum.
and as far as free agency goes.....i've seen where they're suggesting faneca AND starks are the cream of the crop !!! not to mention the price tag of FA, i'd say it's safe to say that "solid" guy is gonna have to be drafted.not only drafted,but drafted early.

Alan Faneca, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers
Faneca seems to be the most likely of this group to leave his current team. Rumors suggest that he plans on leaving after the season and has not discussed an extension with the Steelers. Faneca is a quality guard who has started in five Pro Bowls and been selected as a first team All-Pro five times as well. He also still has some prime seasons of his career remaining. Faneca will receive the most interest at his position, could be the most coveted offensive linemen after the season, and should also be one of the most coveted players available in all of the NFL.
Max Starks, UFA, Pittsburgh Steelers
Starks is young and massive, and another Pittsburgh player that may leave the Steel City. He’s 25 and is listed at 6’7” while weighing 337 pounds. His size and age will make him a desired player on many team’s list. A top tier tackle will always garner interest and Starks may lead the free agent class at the spot because of the high level of play he has shown on the field.
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2008/nfl/freeagentsOL.html

lamberts-lost-tooth
12-19-2007, 05:48 AM
I have said it before...but I think we will go OT with the first and then ILB ( Illinois ILB J. Leman in the 2nd? Or South Floridas Ben Moffitt later?) or DE in the 2nd and 3rd (Eastern Michigan's DE Jason Jones? Or Hampton DE Kendall Langford in the 3rd as a sleeper pick? 6? 6? 294 lbs. and 4.95 speed) ....with either of those spots being interchangeable. Slowwwwly I am thinking we MIGHT pick up a secondary player with the second pick...but I'm not entirely sold on that yet.

Aussie_steeler
12-19-2007, 06:59 AM
Is their greater merit now in franchising Faneca to get some trade bait? I know this has been thrown around a little in discussions over the last few months. Tag him next year and either trade him for a pick / player or even play him for another year (not a bad worst case scenario).

He was disgruntled this year but seemed to tow the team line and just play. I dont know if he is hold out material ( he seems to just love playing more than anything)

With an extra pick in the second round it would certainly allow the team to address each of the current needs with quality players in the first three picks( OT, DE and CB)

Any thoughts???

lamberts-lost-tooth
12-19-2007, 09:37 AM
Is their greater merit now in franchising Faneca to get some trade bait? I know this has been thrown around a little in discussions over the last few months. Tag him next year and either trade him for a pick / player or even play him for another year (not a bad worst case scenario).

He was disgruntled this year but seemed to tow the team line and just play. I dont know if he is hold out material ( he seems to just love playing more than anything)

With an extra pick in the second round it would certainly allow the team to address each of the current needs with quality players in the first three picks( OT, DE and CB)

Any thoughts???

Most teams know that we wont pay Fanceca...so they will wait for him to go on the market....simple math of either having to: give up a draft pick & pay him......or just pay him.

Rhee Rhee
12-20-2007, 08:21 PM
we could go OL 1st then OLB 2nd and then OL 3rd and DB the rest of the way.

Rhee Rhee
12-20-2007, 08:23 PM
if we do stay a 3-4 team we'll need to get huge DE's in the draft.. maybe convert a DT into our DE... draft a adam carriker like player

Dino 6 Rings
12-21-2007, 05:13 PM
I'd Guess O-line 1st Round, Running Back 2nd Round, D-back 3rd round, then fill D-line with the rest of the draft picks.

Or, we could trade our 4th and 6th round picks to the Rams and STEAL Steven Jackson...that would make me smile.

zoneblitz43
12-21-2007, 10:38 PM
Here is what I would like to see our 2008 draft look like:

1st round-CB Antoine Cason, Arizona

2nd round-OT Kirk Barton, Ohio State

3rd round-OG Roy Schuening, Oregon State

4th round-C Adam Speiker, Missouri

5th round-LB J Leman, Illinois

6th and 7th rounds-?

We badly need a CB opposite Ike since Townsend is getting old, also Cason is one of the best returners in college football today with Rossum getting up there we need a new return man soon. If Cason is gone then I would pick up James Hardy. I'd love to have a 6'7 receiving talent. The o-line can easily be addressed in rounds 2-4 and Leman was really impressive against Ohio State. There is too much talent at WR and CB in the first round and the only few OL worth taking in round one will be long gone. We can still get quality o-line talent in the later rounds.

MasterOfPuppets
12-21-2007, 11:07 PM
Here is what I would like to see our 2008 draft look like:

1st round-CB Antoine Cason, Arizona

2nd round-OT Kirk Barton, Ohio State

3rd round-OG Roy Schuening, Oregon State

4th round-C Adam Speiker, Missouri

5th round-LB J Leman, Illinois

6th and 7th rounds-?

We badly need a CB opposite Ike since Townsend is getting old, also Cason is one of the best returners in college football today with Rossum getting up there we need a new return man soon. If Cason is gone then I would pick up James Hardy. I'd love to have a 6'7 receiving talent. The o-line can easily be addressed in rounds 2-4 and Leman was really impressive against Ohio State. There is too much talent at WR and CB in the first round and the only few OL worth taking in round one will be long gone. We can still get quality o-line talent in the later rounds.
Oh dear!!! :dang: now you shall feel the wrath of our resident lehman pimp....otherwise known as LLT. he won't take kindly to you calling his boy a 5th rounder....:toofunny:

the only few OL worth taking in round one will be long gone. We can still get quality o-line talent in the later rounds
there are no less than 6 OT, that are 1st rd material !!!
Jake Long, Michigan
Sam Baker, USC
Ryan Clady ,Boise State
Gosder Cherilus, Boston College
Michael Oher , Ole Miss
Jeff Otah, Pittsburgh

as far as "quality" l'men go, who's the last late rd "quality " l'man on our roster ? how's last years fifth rounder workin out ? :coffee:

ps....i believe we gave up a 6 or 7 for rossum.

lamberts-lost-tooth
12-22-2007, 09:15 AM
Oh dear!!! :dang: now you shall feel the wrath of our resident lehman pimp....otherwise known as LLT. he won't take kindly to you calling his boy a 5th rounder....:toofunny:


.

As a Steeler Fan...I would be thrilled to get Leman in the 5th round!!!...Not going to happen...But I'm all for bargain shopping.

He shows mid-second to mid-third on draft boards ..and his stock will only go up after the Rose Bowl.

Elvis
12-23-2007, 09:26 AM
"very agressive run supporter and is not bad in pass coverage as well."

Sounds like a certain Free Saftey out of Syracuse. Plus, with those DT's you mentioned, we have Casey and Hokey locked up until 2009. I do like the sounds of thay ILB and DE though. They sound like the kinds of guys that could be had in the middle rounds and would make nice depth
:coffee:
Balmer will not be left in the middle rounds I am afraid. He is a beast and makes alot of tackles behind the line of scrimage, something that Hoke hasnt shown much the last year and a half. Hampton might no make it til '09 and Hoke is just about the same age, and he just like Hampton, is a runstopper, not a pass rusher. They both have to be replaced on passing downs.
:tt02:

Rhee Rhee
12-24-2007, 11:06 AM
vernon gholston, derrick harvey or quintein groves... first round draft pick... one of 'em PLEEESE

MasterOfPuppets
12-24-2007, 03:46 PM
vernon gholston, derrick harvey or quintein groves... first round draft pick... one of 'em PLEEESEdidn't we just use 2 picks last year on OLB. wouldn't a guy like tyson jackson (6-5..292) make more sence? somebody who can play end in a 4-3, or 3-4 ?

Tyson Jackson*, LSU
Height: 6-5. Weight: 292.
40 Time: 4.76.
Projected Round: 1.
Pretty much the same build as Adam Carriker, only with a much faster 40 time. Will play up front in the 4-3 or 3-4. Notched 8.5 sacks in 2006.

paw-n-maul-u
12-25-2007, 01:50 AM
we need to trade up to get Clady at all cost. He does not give up sacks. Period. We need pass protection and this guy is about as technically sound as you can get in pass protection and is quick on his feet too. ... Although there are so many good skill position players in this draft, it would be hard to pass up on one of those RB's or tall WR's, i like linemen in rounds 2-4 ...

Rhee Rhee
12-25-2007, 03:16 AM
didn't we just use 2 picks last year on OLB. wouldn't a guy like tyson jackson (6-5..292) make more sence? somebody who can play end in a 4-3, or 3-4 ?

Tyson Jackson*, LSU
Height: 6-5. Weight: 292.
40 Time: 4.76.
Projected Round: 1.
Pretty much the same build as Adam Carriker, only with a much faster 40 time. Will play up front in the 4-3 or 3-4. Notched 8.5 sacks in 2006.

ask yourself how old farrior is... yeah he's playing at a probowl level but how much longer? we've already seen aaron smith go down and he's about the same age as farrior... moving timmons inside would definitely help leaving woodley on the left and draftin an OLB just for kicks.... this gives us depth if woodley or harrison were to go down and would allow us to start rebuilding to a 4-3 if we so choose....

now tyson jackson ya gives us a great DE in a 4-3... but i highly doubt he has the athleticness to play in a 3-4 as well. drafting gholston, harvey or groves will give us players who can play both positions. (versatility is key! look at the ravens they moved jarret johnson and adalius everywere... the dolphins do it with jason taylor.. the pats do it as well with seymour and pretty much every LB)

zoneblitz43
12-25-2007, 03:22 PM
I would love to get Ryan Clady, but face it, he will be gone by the time we reach our pick. If we get the chance to grab Cason then we need to take it. We would have a shutdown corner AND a guy that can make plays on special teams. I've seen this guy play, he is the real deal. Although o-line is obviously our biggest need there is plenty of OL talent available in rounds 2-4. I would love to get Kirk Barton from Ohio State, he would be a perfect replacement for Willie Colon.

MasterOfPuppets
12-25-2007, 04:05 PM
i just can't believe that some of you,after watching ben get pummeled week after week,are pimping any players ,who are not oline.....:dang:
if the line is not addressed early and often, we'll be lookin for a qb in the first rd in 09.

The Duke
12-25-2007, 05:33 PM
well, I want o line first and second picks at least, but if there aren't any real good at the time the steelers pick then it is a possibility they could pick another position.

I know, they could pick them to groom them and train them, but I think the steelers need someone that has immediate impact on the line.

just my 2 cents

Rhee Rhee
12-25-2007, 07:19 PM
i just can't believe that some of you,after watching ben get pummeled week after week,are pimping any players ,who are not oline.....:dang:
if the line is not addressed early and often, we'll be lookin for a qb in the first rd in 09.

well idk about everyone else but i just dont want an o-line because it's not a "glamour".... ik thats the stupidest thing you've ever heard but i dont wanna be like the jets who drafted two of 'em in the 1st!.... i have to concede that chances are we will draft an o-lineman in the first but you cant help but fantasize

Elvis
12-28-2007, 07:06 PM
:coffee:
Some new names for everyone...
DB/S Reggie Smith Oklahoma
DE/LB Lawrence Jackson.. I know ... I have already metioned him B4
OG Eric Young Tennessee
and this one everyone already knows.. OT Jeff Otah 6'6 340 lbs
WR Adarius Bowman 6'4" 220 lbs Oklahoma St.
And What Does Everyone Think About Maybe Taking A Future Backup to Big Ben to Take Charlie Batch's spot?
Like...
QB Josh David Booty 6'3" 215 lbs from USC?
I think that he might be a nice fit and the Steelers might be able to get him in the late 2nd or mid 3rd.
:tt02:

fastparker39
12-29-2007, 12:29 AM
Ben Mauk, haha my hometown QB.

Nah we need an oline men.

Jeremy
12-29-2007, 10:46 AM
God save us from the DE/OLB combo players who can't play either DE or OLD in the NFL at a high level.

Rhee Rhee
12-29-2007, 10:40 PM
QB Josh David Booty 6'3" 215 lbs from USC?
I think that he might be a nice fit and the Steelers might be able to get him in the late 2nd or mid 3rd.

whoa whoa wait... GREAT idea with the drafting of a backup QB BUT a second or a 3d roud pick?????????? omg next cows will be raining from the sky... definitely adress bcakup Qb situation but not in the third.... 5th, 6th maybe even seventh... we need to be lookin at guys that could be named dennis dixon... in the 5th...or matt flynn... idk booty i just donnt like him and plus we dont need a usc QB... look at the other ones that came out... leinart... eww... palmer... (puke)

Preacher
12-29-2007, 10:48 PM
whoa whoa wait... GREAT idea with the drafting of a backup QB BUT a second or a 3d roud pick?????????? omg next cows will be raining from the sky... definitely adress bcakup Qb situation but not in the third.... 5th, 6th maybe even seventh... we need to be lookin at guys that could be named dennis dixon... in the 5th...or matt flynn... idk booty i just donnt like him and plus we dont need a usc QB... look at the other ones that came out... leinart... eww... palmer... (puke)

Your right.. 5th or 6th round sure.

But as far as from what school.. I don't care.

zoneblitz43
12-30-2007, 06:27 PM
Antoine Cason

I'm sure most of you notice that at this time we are being trashed by a rookie QB. We also have a return man who can't hold on to the damn ball. We need a shutdown corner and a return man we can count on. Ike is good but can't hold on to the damn ball, Townsend is too short, Rossum is old, and Willie Reid is trash. We can get a good RT and center in rounds 2-4, our pass defense is what's causing us to lose games. Mahan, Colon, and Reid all need to be cut.

Jeremy
12-31-2007, 10:47 AM
Antoine Cason

I'm sure most of you notice that at this time we are being trashed by a rookie QB. We also have a return man who can't hold on to the damn ball. We need a shutdown corner and a return man we can count on. Ike is good but can't hold on to the damn ball, Townsend is too short, Rossum is old, and Willie Reid is trash. We can get a good RT and center in rounds 2-4, our pass defense is what's causing us to lose games. Mahan, Colon, and Reid all need to be cut.

I've been on that bandwagon for a year now. Cason answers two huge holes on the team. Yeah, we need offensive line help. But I'll promise you that the defense will look 100 times better with a solid shutdown corner.

Rhee Rhee
12-31-2007, 11:10 PM
good point and i love antoine cason... but there is some serious depth at DB this year and we could pick up guys like dejuan tribble, domnique rodgers cromartie, dwight lowery, terrel thomas, and if you guys still hate our returners then draft some reciever in the late rounds that will be able to partly replace hines and that can KR...

MasterOfPuppets
12-31-2007, 11:41 PM
good point and i love antoine cason... but there is some serious depth at DB this year and we could pick up guys like dejuan tribble, domnique rodgers cromartie, dwight lowery, terrel thomas, and if you guys still hate our returners then draft some reciever in the late rounds that will be able to partly replace hines and that can KR...

you mean like willie reid???:coffee:

zoneblitz43
01-01-2008, 01:34 AM
Antoine Cason kicks ass, plain and simple. Did you see his game against Oregon?

Rhee Rhee
01-01-2008, 03:13 AM
you mean like willie reid???:coffee:

willie reid was a third rounder bud... thats a day one pick not a late roudner... i mean late rounder by 6th and 7th rounders like a Taj Smith from syracuse.. or dexter jackson appalachian state... those kinda guys... not some gut who ruined his knee right before he came out..

fastparker39
01-03-2008, 12:25 PM
I don't think we need any more receiver's. We have some good ones, Hines, Holmes, Wilson, Reid.

I think we need another DB.

Elvis
01-03-2008, 12:59 PM
God save us from the DE/OLB combo players who can't play either DE or OLD in the NFL at a high level.
:thumbsup: I agree with ya Jeremy.
I would just like to see the Steelers org. get a real DE or a real LB. Not in the 1st round atleast not a LB. If the Steelers have a chance at a top notch MLB in the 1st or 2nd round I would love to see that. I really think that the Steelers have to stick with the best available player at pretty much what ever position they play.. except maybe for QB or RB, unless something happens that McFadden were to still be available around the 20th pick. But I dont see that happening either.
I think that Offensive Line is our most pressing needs in this upcoming draft with DE's or NT's high as well. A shutdown corner is probably not gonna be left when we pick in the 1st round so we will have to get a little lucky.

Rhee Rhee
01-04-2008, 03:46 AM
we'd only draft a nose tackle in the 1st if we were seriously thinking about switching to a 4-3... and in that case i still think we'd need to have a 1-15 season like the dolphins and grab a player of dorsey's ability not get stuck with a sedrick ellis who can only rush the passer and do little else

Steeldude
01-11-2008, 07:29 AM
the steelers should draft a tackle or tackles. they should have addressed this problem 5 years ago.

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Rhee Rhee
01-12-2008, 07:13 PM
if you look at it therre is a TON of depth at the tackle position this year... guard/center should be a top prioirity..

MasterOfPuppets
01-12-2008, 09:16 PM
we'd only draft a nose tackle in the 1st if we were seriously thinking about switching to a 4-3... and in that case i still think we'd need to have a 1-15 season like the dolphins and grab a player of dorsey's ability not get stuck with a sedrick ellis who can only rush the passer and do little else
are you insane ??

ellis .......56 tackles.....12.5 for loss......8.5 sacks.......

dorsey....64 tackles.....11.5 for loss......6 sacks.........

is 8 tackles really that much of a difference???

Preacher
01-12-2008, 09:28 PM
if you look at it therre is a TON of depth at the tackle position this year... guard/center should be a top prioirity..

If that is true....

Then yeah, I want to see a number one AND two go for the line.. ONe at Guard/Center, then the second at tackle...

MasterOfPuppets
01-12-2008, 10:22 PM
if you look at it therre is a TON of depth at the tackle position this year... guard/center should be a top prioirity..there may be more tackle depth than usual this year, but watch how fast they fly off the board...if the steelers wait till the 46th pick, or beyond, they won't be getting a top tier tackle. besides that, there isn't 1 center or guard, worthy of the 23rd pick,and very few worth the 46th pick....

Rhee Rhee
01-12-2008, 10:43 PM
are you insane ??

ellis .......56 tackles.....12.5 for loss......8.5 sacks.......

dorsey....64 tackles.....11.5 for loss......6 sacks.........

is 8 tackles really that much of a difference???

umm considering that dorsey plays in the SEC...

paw-n-maul-u
01-13-2008, 01:40 AM
umm considering that dorsey plays in the SEC...

not to mention Dorsey was at about 75% (that could be generous), for the last half of the season.

paw-n-maul-u
01-13-2008, 01:43 AM
We def. won't take a DT first round unless Tomlin is serious about switching to a 4-3 (like previously stated)

In the first round I would like O-line all the way, unless there is no value at all when we pick (which is very possible). If that's the case, I'd like to see them snag a tall WR.

This would be an awesome draft to have an extra second round pick.

Steeldude
01-13-2008, 07:07 AM
We def. won't take a DT first round unless Tomlin is serious about switching to a 4-3 (like previously stated)

In the first round I would like O-line all the way, unless there is no value at all when we pick (which is very possible). If that's the case, I'd like to see them snag a tall WR.

This would be an awesome draft to have an extra second round pick.


no offense, but i really don't want the steelers looking for a WR on the first day. if OL isn't there, then DL, CB or LB(in that order) are next.

a tall WR would be good, but i don't think it outweighs the needs of other areas. the DL is getting old and has no future replacements of any value. well maybe mcbean, but that remains to be seen. he comes in at 290. rather light for a DL in the 3-4. keisel needs to be cut. the guy gets engulfed by the O-line too easily.

Rhee Rhee
01-14-2008, 01:50 AM
no offense, but i really don't want the steelers looking for a WR on the first day. if OL isn't there, then DL, CB or LB(in that order) are next.

a tall WR would be good, but i don't think it outweighs the needs of other areas. the DL is getting old and has no future replacements of any value. well maybe mcbean, but that remains to be seen. he comes in at 290. rather light for a DL in the 3-4. keisel needs to be cut. the guy gets engulfed by the O-line too easily.

if keisel gets cut the lebeau wont have that guy to plaay with... (eww that sounded very wrong... but uk what i mean) :sofunny:

reciever may not be a huge priority but it should definitely be adressed come draft day... and if early doucet is avvailibe with our second rounder... or if davone bess or ryan grice mullins slip... we should nab one of 'em in the third, fourth or fifth rounds..

DACEB
01-15-2008, 10:51 AM
I'll toss a few names out there;

Michael Oher, OT Ole Miss; versatile can play OT or OG
Jeff Otah, OT Pitt; must know all we need to know, he played in our backyard
I am not high on Sam Baker (OT USC) the reports say he's soft and injury prone.

Calais Campbell, DE Mia; might not be there at 24, but if he is do we take him with more 3-4 DEs available in the next two rounds

Aqib Talib, CB Kansas; provides depth at CB and STs and is a return man
Antoine Cason, CB Ariz; provides depth at CB and STs and is a return man
Getting one of these guys would probably allow us to cut Rossum

Early Doucet, WR LSU;
Limas Sweed, WR Tex; big tall WR
Mario Manningham, WR Mich;
Can any of these guys return kicks, can they contribute on STs??

Jonathan Stewart, RB Ore; Good size (230lbs) and can return kicks if neccessary, but will he still be on the board?
Felix Jones, RB Ark; similar to FWP and can return kicks

Derrick Harvey, DE/OLB Fla; depth and help on STs
Quinten Groves, DE/OLB Aub; depth and help on STs
These guys have ideal size to play 3-4 OLB, but are they good enough to be taken over our other needs?

Dylan
01-15-2008, 05:41 PM
I think we wil pick Jeff Otah from PITT. Otah had a good relationship with some of the lineman when they worked out and the organization knows him well. He also has great size i believe he is 6'4 365 pounds (not Sure)

If Desean Jackson is still avaiable though we should get him. He would provide us with the return man we are looking for and would be a nice compliment to Holmes. he doesn't need to be an impact wide receiver right away since we still have Ward for a few more years. I would love to have Jackson.


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