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tony hipchest
09-25-2007, 09:15 PM
"ive got the greatest show on turf qb and 2 great receivers to test the suspect steelers secondary, or edgerrin james, the only rb to prove he can hang a hunnerd on the steelers in 3 years".

he has to think he knows all the steelers strength and weaknesses and im sure is itching to run this game as if he had james on his heyday or fitzgerald and boldin with the steelers.

maybe he's tired of working with kids at qb and is itching to see what he can do with warner (something he was able to do with batch).

so which way is he leaning and why?

83-Steelers-43
09-25-2007, 09:17 PM
So Whisenhunt is Thinking....

"Oh s*it.....I knew what this team was capable of last season, now I'm dealing with a new HC who installed his own playbook and tactics. Should I hire a video camerman? Do I go with pretty boy or Warner? Does it really matter? I already know my running game will be completely shut down. On defense I got a minor break with Ward out, but does it really matter when they are throwing to two tight ends? Mommy help. Where's Billy Cowher?"

tony hipchest
09-25-2007, 09:22 PM
So Whisenhunt is Thinking....

"Oh s*it.....I knew what this team was capable of last season, now I'm dealing with a new HC who installed his own playbook and tactics. Should I hire a video camerman? Do I go with pretty boy or Warner? Does it really matter?"i was hoping he would go the e. james route and try to catch us "off balance". :wink02:

Atlanta Dan
09-25-2007, 09:25 PM
Pass, not run - James 100+ will not happen again- But IMO Whiz knows that if he is going to exploit the Steelers D he has a much better shot of doing it at the present time with Warner - but his long term future is with Leinart (if not Whiz goes as HC before Leinart does) - so when does he pull Leinart and risk damaging his psyche?

His other problem is that Cardinals defense - Tomlin & Arians are not running the Whiz offense, so I question how much he can exploit Ben, FWP, and Holmes. His best shot is if Mahan cannot go, which will force Simmons to C and destabilize C and RG.

FWIW I am not feeling real confident for the first time this season

83-Steelers-43
09-25-2007, 09:26 PM
My guess? When we are on defense they will get some underneath stuff but nothing to worry about. IMO, our offense will blow them up. This sounds basic, but I really don't see it being much more detailed/complicated than that. I'm not looking past these guys, but I see absolutely no reason why we can't completely blow them out (Ward or no Ward). I was more worried with the 49ers to be honest.

Cards defense vs Steeler offense is no match.

Maybe I'm just getting a little ****y?....lol. Hell, as long as the players don't, I guess it really doesn't matter.

tony hipchest
09-25-2007, 09:45 PM
i think one thing can certainly be said about this season. the way the schedule is set up, and the way our future competition is looking to this point, it is gonna get progressively stronger as each week passes (with exception of brownsweek II, of course). our 9th game can easilly be 9 times as tough as our first. the chess match is figuring out which direction wizards like whiz are gonna go. when it comes to predicting them, im pretty confident with tomlin and lebeau.

like 83 said, im not to worried about our offense against their defense despite what whiz may know... their offensive weapons seem more concerning.

Mosca
09-25-2007, 10:52 PM
Well, I wrote this in a different thread...

Well, let's think for a minute. Our defensive mantra for this season is that we are going to dictate to them how the game will be played.

So, how do we think that is going to play out, against Whiz and Grimmy? What do we think they are going to think?

They are going to try and throw, is what that means. They figure that they have some pretty potent weapons, and Whiz certainly remembers last year's debacle with Ike and knows that we haven't faced any good QBs yet. They know that teams who beat the Steelers over the last two years did it by piling up points early and often.

So, we will dictate the game by playing suffocating pass defense. This is the week we get to see how Lebeau has mixed in Cover 2. But sometimes we will jam the receivers hard at the line. We'll force them to mix in the shorter passes, then we'll sit on the routes and intercept; on the longer routes look for coverage sacks. Hampton covers the run; the Cards don't have the line to beat us. Okobi, our "center of the future", lost out to a UDFA.

Last week's game tape will be useless for AZ. Those weaknesses have already been identified and will be addressed and corrected. Tomlin is one week ahead already.

Even still, stopping them won't be easy. Leinart and Fitz are great talents, and they can put up the numbers against us. But we get the ball, too. Honestly, this is going to be the week the Steelers score at will. I look for 40+ points from Ben & Co.

I dunno, 45-17, 45-23, something like that.


Tom

tony hipchest
09-25-2007, 11:16 PM
Well, I wrote this in a different thread...

Well, let's think for a minute. Our defensive mantra for this season is that we are going to dictate to them how the game will be played.

So, how do we think that is going to play out, against Whiz and Grimmy? What do we think they are going to think?

They are going to try and throw, is what that means. They figure that they have some pretty potent weapons, and Whiz certainly remembers last year's debacle with Ike and knows that we haven't faced any good QBs yet. They know that teams who beat the Steelers over the last two years did it by piling up points early and often.

So, we will dictate the game by playing suffocating pass defense. This is the week we get to see how Lebeau has mixed in Cover 2. But sometimes we will jam the receivers hard at the line. We'll force them to mix in the shorter passes, then we'll sit on the routes and intercept; on the longer routes look for coverage sacks. Hampton covers the run; the Cards don't have the line to beat us. Okobi, our "center of the future", lost out to a UDFA.

Last week's game tape will be useless for AZ. Those weaknesses have already been identified and will be addressed and corrected. Tomlin is one week ahead already.

Even still, stopping them won't be easy. Leinart and Fitz are great talents, and they can put up the numbers against us. But we get the ball, too. Honestly, this is going to be the week the Steelers score at will. I look for 40+ points from Ben & Co.

I dunno, 45-17, 45-23, something like that.


Tomthis is definitely the way im leaning.

whiz has seen plenty of times the steeler opponents have gotten shut down trying to run the ball. i dont think he would try to run any rb down hamptons throat (not even the great frank gore). on the flipside, whiz has seen plenty of opponents try to spread the steelers out, attack them through the air, and then gash them for the run. he's gotta roll with the odds, right? i wonder what tomlin thinks he will do. or does it matter? will tomlin have the team prepared no matter what the cardinals do? [rhetorical].

i think he will.

Tankus_Maximus
09-25-2007, 11:28 PM
Whichever way Whiz is leaning, he better hope his hogs upfront can keep whomever's lined up under center, off their asses.

If we can keep the pressure on Leinart/Warner like we did Smith/Losman/whichever Brownie QB, we've got an excellent chance to roll these chumps over and have our way with them.

Just my opinion, I'm willing to concede that I could be wrong.

slippy
09-25-2007, 11:37 PM
i also think the game will be high scoring, and decided late in the fourth. a trip cross country is always difficult although i don't believe AZ has much of a homefield advantage yet, if ever.

RoethlisBURGHer
09-26-2007, 12:16 AM
Whiz has collected some guys that were in camp, so he'll be grilling them for info on the playbook, no doubt.

Boldin remindes me of Hines Ward with more speed. He's tough and will take a hit to make the catch. He's also a helluva blocker so he'll have no probleming helping out Edge or another receiver to get yards downfield.

Fitzgerald has some of the best hands in football and is very fast. He can stretch the field vertically and he can take a short slant to the house. I am more afraid of him than Boldin.

If the o-line can keep him off of his back, Leinart is dangerous. He showed that at times last year, he can make all the throws. He's not much of a threat on the run, but if given the chance to set his feet again, he becomes dangerous.

Warner is a statue in the pocket. He doesn't scare me much.

Running on our defense is almost impossible. Edge will break 100 yards if he gets 60 carries. No TD's for Mr. James.

Our defense will bring the pressure. Leinart and/or Warner won't be given much time to find Fitz or Boldin. I expect to see a lot of grass stains on the jerseys of the quarterbacks.

Willie can run past their entire defense, and Ben & Co. can pass all over them. I think the Steelers might break 50 points this week.

tony hipchest
09-26-2007, 12:39 AM
i think whiz wil approach this game the same as he did vs. the bungles in the playoffs 2 years ago. if he has something cooked up with boldin in the form of randle el (as promised in training camp) we could see it this week.

it took until last week to see the steelers run some gagetry with wilson. so i think whiz may give it a shot.

Edman
09-26-2007, 12:44 AM
I said it before and I'll say it again. This game will be the offense's coming out party. I'd be surprised if Ben and co. don't put up 30 against the Cards.

NateC
09-26-2007, 03:02 AM
A Shootout is not What im hoping for. IMO that favors AZ, We will soon see fella's should be excellent football. I just have a feeling Whisenhunt is gonna be looking funny this game.

Atlanta Dan
09-26-2007, 07:43 AM
I said it before and I'll say it again. This game will be the offense's coming out party. I'd be surprised if Ben and co. don't put up 30 against the Cards.

The Mahan injury could destabilize the OL and slow down any scoring - OL depth is the central weakness of this team - hopefully it does not show up this week.

Counselor
09-26-2007, 09:04 AM
I say expect a big play attempt from AZ very early----like the ones the Bengals and Colts made in 2005 on the first and second plays.


I would love to be in Dick LeBeau's head right about now, wouldn't you?

revefsreleets
09-26-2007, 09:25 AM
This is another situation where, if you look at this position by position, there are very few players on the Cardinals who could start for the Steelers. They have a couple nice WR's, but Edge is past his prime. Leinert is ineffective when he feels heat, and Lebeau is definitely going to bring heat. The Ravens offense is hardly a jaugernaut, but they gouged the Cards defense for some big gains in the first half last week. They have a few nice players on defense, Adrian Wilson is the only stud on that side of the ball.

rog
09-26-2007, 10:58 AM
Whiz is thinking....Man did I get the wrong job!!!!!!!!!

HometownGal
09-26-2007, 11:29 AM
I'd be lying if I said I feel the Steelers will rout the Cards, but I do believe the Steelers are going to break the game open in the second half - just a gut. AZ will play us as close as possible the first quarter and a half and try to get Edge to pound the ball forward, but I don't think he's going to have much success against our D. Boldin puts a bit of fright into me, but I believe our much improved secondary can handle him. Bring on the rocket launcher - #27 - and introduce Messrs. Boldin and Fitzgerald to him. :jammin: Sure - the Cards' O is going to put some points on the board, but it isn't going to be easy for them to do so.

I don't feel Leinart will last the entire first half - our D will send him to the sidelines crying for his binkie. :binky: Warner still has a good arm and is fairly accurate, but as Roeth pointed out above, he is a statue back there, though he does have a pretty quick release. If the Steelers D can pressure him often, he's going to be taken out of his game and make mistakes.

I'm sure Tomlin, Arians and Lebeau are hard at work as I type this coming up with a game plan to counteract anything Whiz or Grimm feel they know about this team. I have complete confidence in our coaching staff and our team. Look out Cards! :tt02:

Dino 6 Rings
09-26-2007, 01:07 PM
I have complete confidence in our coaching staff and our team. Look out Cards! :tt02:[/QUOTE]


Exactly. Confidence !!!

rbryan
09-26-2007, 01:17 PM
Whiz has collected some guys that were in camp, so he'll be grilling them for info on the playbook, no doubt.

Boldin remindes me of Hines Ward with more speed. He's tough and will take a hit to make the catch. He's also a helluva blocker so he'll have no probleming helping out Edge or another receiver to get yards downfield.

Fitzgerald has some of the best hands in football and is very fast. He can stretch the field vertically and he can take a short slant to the house. I am more afraid of him than Boldin.

If the o-line can keep him off of his back, Leinart is dangerous. He showed that at times last year, he can make all the throws. He's not much of a threat on the run, but if given the chance to set his feet again, he becomes dangerous.

Warner is a statue in the pocket. He doesn't scare me much.

Running on our defense is almost impossible. Edge will break 100 yards if he gets 60 carries. No TD's for Mr. James.

Our defense will bring the pressure. Leinart and/or Warner won't be given much time to find Fitz or Boldin. I expect to see a lot of grass stains on the jerseys of the quarterbacks.

Willie can run past their entire defense, and Ben & Co. can pass all over them. I think the Steelers might break 50 points this week.

Boldin is thier toughest player no doubt. I think he can manhandle just about anyone in our secondary. I'd like to see Harrison catch him coming across the middle early. I like our chances with that matchup physically, not so much covering him though.