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Big D
09-28-2007, 10:19 AM
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070927/SPORTS0101/709270345/1007/SPORTS

September 27, 2007) ? If Buffalo Bills owner Ralph Wilson genuinely hopes to see his team win a Super Bowl, he should aggressively pursue Bill Cowher as coach and whatever other titles the former Pittsburgh Steelers coach might demand.

Why should the Cowher Sweepstakes include the Cleveland Browns and New York Giants but exclude the Bills?

Winless and battered, Buffalo appears well on its way to an eighth straight season without making the playoffs. That's difficult to do in this age of parity. The only other NFL teams without a trip to the postseason in the past six seasons are Arizona and Detroit. The 6-year-old Houston Texans haven't been around long enough to join the futility list, but even they appear closer to making the playoffs than Buffalo.

Assuming Cowher wants to return to the NFL next year after sitting out the 2007 season and driving up his price, why shouldn't Wilson be in the bidding for his services? The best available football people aren't cheap. If you really care about upgrading your team, you pursue them and land them. Cowher has a career record of 161-99-1, including 12 playoff victories.

Just because Tom Donahoe was a bust doesn't mean Cowher would be.

The Bills figure to sell out every home game this season. But if this year's team wins only two or three games, there probably will be plenty of empty seats in 2008 unless some major moves upgrade the product on the field.

It is obvious to high-profile Bills observers "Coach" Chuck Dickerson and Fred Smerlas that Cowher could turn around this long-struggling franchise. I agree with them, and many of you probably do, too.

But the only one who counts is Ralph Wilson.

I can't think of a move that would lift the spirits and hopes of Bills fans more than Cowher taking over to bring a struggling franchise back to respectability.


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Big D
09-28-2007, 10:22 AM
this article throws three teams as possible suitors for cowher. Giants, Browns and Bills. I kinda wanted to break this down. I could see the giants giving Cowher 8-10 million. I just dont think Cowher could handle the pressure from the new york media as well as the new york fans. I think he would flop with the giants in a hurry. The bills are easy to shoot down. No way would Wilson pony up that kinda cash. Which leaves the usual suspect the cleveland browns. I hope Cowher as an honorable man would not go to cleveland to coach one of our biggest rivals. But I could see the browns giving Cowher full control and a blank check. I guess only time will tell

Atlanta Dan
09-28-2007, 12:09 PM
Cowher goes to Buffalo when pigs fly and he arrives there via such air transportation.

Wilson would never meet Cowher's price.

Atlanta Dan
09-28-2007, 12:12 PM
this article throws three teams as possible suitors for cowher. Giants, Browns and Bills

Dallas is playing surprisingly well so that appears to rule them out. I still think Washington is a possibility along with the Giants.

Cowher treating the New York media like he treated the Pittsburgh coverage would lead to an exchange of gunfire by midseason.

Haiku_Dirtt
09-28-2007, 01:05 PM
Dallas is playing surprisingly well so that appears to rule them out. I still think Washington is a possibility along with the Giants.

Cowher treating the New York media like he treated the Pittsburgh coverage would lead to an exchange of gunfire by midseason.

If Carolina doesn't go deep - and I mean deep - into the playoffs you don't think that John Fox is toast. And if they kick Fox to the curb the Panthers are a team with little baggage...and a solid roster. How many more chances can they give Fox?

Playing oddsmaker. Washington makes complete sense but following Gibbs in D.C. won't be easy. He's a demigod there. The Giants have more baggage problems than airlines. If Tomlin's success continues then the Cleveland gig might be an uphill battle with Mt. St. Helens proportions.

I'm throwing Carolina out there as a solid 'long shot.'

Big D
09-28-2007, 01:12 PM
I dont consider Carolina a long shot at all. I think it makes perfect sense for both Cowher and the panthers.

MasterOfPuppets
09-28-2007, 01:17 PM
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Playing oddsmaker. Washington makes complete sense but following Gibbs in D.C. won't be easy. He's a demigod there.
' WAS......a demigod there. reality has set in.remember this is a what have you done lately league. the skin fans, at least the morons i'm surrounded by ,are at thiers wits end with gibbs.

Haiku_Dirtt
09-28-2007, 01:18 PM
I dont consider Carolina a long shot at all. I think it makes perfect sense for both Cowher and the panthers.

I guess I don't either. I actually think he's a lock if the Panthers aren't in the Super Bowl.

Big D
09-28-2007, 01:24 PM
I guess I don't either. I actually think he's a lock if the Panthers aren't in the Super Bowl.

I agree. And the first thing could would do is get rid of that scrub delhomme. The panthers are a superbowl contending team but an underacheving coaching staff holds them back

Liz
09-28-2007, 02:27 PM
You really think Cowher would go to another team? I mean geez. everyone knew that he would get bored after a year or two with no coaching job, so why did he quit in the first place? Has it been his intention for a while you think to start with another team?

Big D
09-28-2007, 03:25 PM
You really think Cowher would go to another team? I mean geez. everyone knew that he would get bored after a year or two with no coaching job, so why did he quit in the first place? Has it been his intention for a while you think to start with another team?

absouletly. He would still be coaching the steelers if the steelers would have given him a five year deal worth 40 million. Money and control will bring Cowher back into coaching

revefsreleets
09-28-2007, 07:03 PM
The Steelers players think Cowher will end up coaching the Browns. The Browns fans themselves admit all the time they admire Cowher and wish he was their coach. Cowher whipped the Browns asses just about every time they played. He's an ex-Browns player and coach. The Browns FO would pay Cowher's ransom because, although they suck they still sell out every game and sell merchandise (and they have a new stadium with PSL and corporate loge money to spend). I would say it's a safe bet that if Cowher wants to come back, he comes back in Cleveland.

RoethlisBURGHer
09-28-2007, 10:09 PM
The Steelers players think Cowher will end up coaching the Browns. The Browns fans themselves admit all the time they admire Cowher and wish he was their coach. Cowher whipped the Browns asses just about every time they played. He's an ex-Browns player and coach. The Browns FO would pay Cowher's ransom because, although they suck they still sell out every game and sell merchandise (and they have a new stadium with PSL and corporate loge money to spend). I would say it's a safe bet that if Cowher wants to come back, he comes back in Cleveland.

Not to mention that soon the naming rights to the stadium will change and some dumbass corproation that will probally go bankrupt shortly after signing the contract (come on, this is Cleveland's luck we are talking about here) will be paying them a large sum of money to stick their name on the building.

Crushzilla
09-28-2007, 10:26 PM
WAS......a demigod there. reality has set in.remember this is a what have you done lately league.

Precisely. Which is why the majority of Pittsburgh will turn on him in an instant when he does return.

The Steelers players think Cowher will end up coaching the Browns.

I really hope this is just the players preparing themselves and the city for the worst case scenario. Not necessarily as a threatening situation, but as straight up deceit.

Cowher seems to be getting comfortable behind the desk, especially with those pearly whites that DVE can't get enough of.

If he does come back, I can honestly see the Panthers in his future, for reasons already stated. They have all the tools to go deep, but just can't consistently under Fox, which is nuts in the J.V. league.

I could respect that decision by Cowher, but just won't be able to bear seeing him in sh*t Brown looking up at, with jaw extended a 42-3 Steelers scoreboard. The Redskins? I just don't care for that francise and Snyder at all, but lord knows he'll open his wallet with a Super Bowl winning coach.

revefsreleets
09-29-2007, 06:41 PM
If I was Cowher, I'd take the easy money commentating. He's really good at it, too. But the guy is a competitor, and I have a feeling that the Cleveland assignment would light that fire back up.

Elvis
09-29-2007, 07:28 PM
First of all..
I CANT stand Cowher on the pregame show, so I hope that he gets a headcoaching job soon..
:hug:
:tt02:

TroysBadDawg
09-29-2007, 09:30 PM
OK Here goes, I would love to see him in Cleveland but I don't see it happening. I don't see Savage giving up his control to Cowher, and him coming to Cleveland not having full control. If that makes any sense at all. Cowher is a coach that wants full control, of the front office and of who is drafted, now that is Savage's area, and I do not see Savage giving that up. Unless Learner Steps in and Then all bets are off. Will Savage stay with the Browns then or will he go else where If Cowher is given full control? Wow that really opens a can of worms doesn't it?

Preacher
09-29-2007, 10:24 PM
Nope...

You all have it ALL WRONG.

Cowher isn't going back next year, maybe not even the year after.

WHen he does go back, it will be with his favorite linebacker...

Yep..

Miami. In about 3 years. They will give him control with only one string... WIN. NOW.

He will be with Porter for the last year or two of Porter's career, but Cowher will use him like Bettis... to be a leader and mouth in the locker room.

bratsinmybelly
09-29-2007, 11:08 PM
I think it would be awesome in a terrible way to see him go to Buffalo.

I mean, can Buffalo really handle another scenario in which they get close year in and year out but can't seem to get over the hump? Sadly, that is what Cowher will bring whatever team he does decide to go with. Yes he FINALLY won a SB but we all know that game could have gone either way and was close until the 4th qtr. aside from that game, he was the epitamy of the coach who couldn't win the big one. Consistent....yes. The greatest coach ever.........hardly. this is a man who benefited a great deal from the patience that this organization has and was able to achieve a good deal of success because of it. Put him with any other team and he won't make it 5 years.

Livinginthe past
09-30-2007, 08:35 AM
Nope...

You all have it ALL WRONG.

Cowher isn't going back next year, maybe not even the year after.

WHen he does go back, it will be with his favorite linebacker...

Yep..

Miami. In about 3 years. They will give him control with only one string... WIN. NOW.

He will be with Porter for the last year or two of Porter's career, but Cowher will use him like Bettis... to be a leader and mouth in the locker room.

Miami has made some real questionable decisions in the past, but having Joey porter still on their roster in 3 years?

That would be right up their with the worst.

Livinginthe past
09-30-2007, 08:38 AM
OK Here goes, I would love to see him in Cleveland but I don't see it happening. I don't see Savage giving up his control to Cowher, and him coming to Cleveland not having full control. If that makes any sense at all. Cowher is a coach that wants full control, of the front office and of who is drafted, now that is Savage's area, and I do not see Savage giving that up. Unless Learner Steps in and Then all bets are off. Will Savage stay with the Browns then or will he go else where If Cowher is given full control? Wow that really opens a can of worms doesn't it?

At what point does Savage get done burning all his bridges in Cleveland - if I remember right he has had at least one big 'him-or-me' confrontation in the last year or two and his team continue to struggle.

If someone of Cowhers experience were to demand full control, I would imagine Lerner (if he were of sound mind) would make the deal in a heartbeat.

i'm pretty sure Cowher learnt a hell of a lot in Pittsburgh about the fundamentals on how to run a successful franchise - to not make full use of that would be crazy.

TroysBadDawg
10-01-2007, 07:41 AM
I personally think that it may be Marty Schottenheimer who would have a 3 year contract, then be replaced by Todd Grantham. Again this is purely speculation on my part. I have no flies on the wall in Learners office or in Savages.

I have heard from a reliable sport reports mouth that and again this is hearsay, that Cowher is going to Cleveland. This reporter is with ESPN and wishes to remain un-named. But all the same it is all hearsay. I will say the reporter is a she and she reports on the Browns and Steelers. That is all I will say about that. Until the contracts are signed, sealed, and delivered nothing is for sure. We are all guessing, surmising, he said she said, and most of all wishing one way or the other.

revefsreleets
10-01-2007, 02:19 PM
The possible monkey wrench in the works is that fact that Cleveland doesn't look so awful this year. If they pull off a decent year, it'll look really shitty to fire Crennel when he finally makes progress.

I don't see Carolina, Miami or Buffalo ponying up the 10 million+ Cowher is going to demand.

Hines0wnz
10-01-2007, 03:33 PM
Until Fox is signed to an extension or fired or if they win the SB then I see Carolina as the clear front runner. Cowher doesnt seem to be the type to build that multi-million dollar home in Raleigh then 2 years later move his family to Cleveland or Buffalo. Are you kidding me? Maybe he is waiting for the LA franchise to be born.

revefsreleets
10-01-2007, 05:48 PM
Can't see that happening. Fox is extended at 5 million a year through 2008, and I just don't see the Panthers ever paying a HC more than that. A 2 million dollar house for a coach who makes 10 million a year could easily be a vacation house.

BozMan
10-02-2007, 02:38 PM
Should San Diego be included in the mix? If any team looks like it will fire its coach, SD is it.

fansince'76
10-02-2007, 02:51 PM
Should San Diego be included in the mix? If any team looks like it will fire its coach, SD is it.

Man, that would be ironic - a disciple of Marty being hired to replace Marty's replacement?

Haiku_Dirtt
10-03-2007, 05:19 PM
The owner (X player, first to own a team since Halas) in Carolina are quite patient and will probably give Fox a few more years.

You live there so I'd weigh heavily on this. But Carolina IMO has been one of the biggest underachievers in the last few years unless I'm overrating their roster.

The San Diego job is an intriguing scenario someone mentioned.

Hines0wnz
10-07-2007, 03:04 PM
Can't see that happening. Fox is extended at 5 million a year through 2008, and I just don't see the Panthers ever paying a HC more than that. A 2 million dollar house for a coach who makes 10 million a year could easily be a vacation house.

When did Cowher make $10 mil per year? :coffee:

Big D
10-07-2007, 03:06 PM
Should San Diego be included in the mix? If any team looks like it will fire its coach, SD is it.

I could see spanos paying major dollars to get cowher. Cowher would probably be a good fit being that he has a 3-4 defense philosiphy

Big D
10-07-2007, 03:07 PM
You live there so I'd weigh heavily on this. But Carolina IMO has been one of the biggest underachievers in the last few years unless I'm overrating their roster.

The San Diego job is an intriguing scenario someone mentioned.

I dont think you are overrating their roster one single bit. They are stacked on both sides of the ball. And their running game should be far stronger then what it is

revefsreleets
10-09-2007, 04:30 PM
When did Cowher make $10 mil per year? :coffee:

Never. That's precisely the point. There was a better chance of the Steelers re-signing Bam Morris and Barry Foster then there was of paying Cowher anywhere near what he'll want, which will be $10 million a year. Minimum.