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tony hipchest
10-03-2007, 11:21 PM
NM sen. pete domenici calls it quits from a position he has admirably held since 1972.

his main potential republican replacements (s. pierce and h. wilson) have nothing on him, and presidential "aint got a shot in hell" candidate bill richardson may throw his hat in the ring (should win by a landslide).

ive always voted on both sides of the aisle and i dont think anyone has received (earned) my vote more than pete.

woohoo! "richardson in 08"!

:chuckle:

Atlanta Dan
10-05-2007, 05:09 PM
Was he facing a close race next year or did Pete just say to hell with it?

Sounds like the Dems are pushing Richardson hard to seek the seat.

Preacher
10-05-2007, 05:57 PM
Was he facing a close race next year or did Pete just say to hell with it?

Sounds like the Dems are pushing Richardson hard to seek the seat.

You know...

the sad thing about it, is that as all the "old" one retire, our govt. is just going to get more ugly.

These guys learned from the ones who knew how to be respectful. Where did they all go? Why do they all have to go into retirement?

Speaking of which...

For some reason, I REALLY wish Gary Hart (yeah... Him! :sofunny:) would run and be nominated from the dems... and Thompson from the rep.

Could you imagine those debates. Two RESPECTABLE men DEBATING ideas instead of spewing soundbites. How refreshing will that be.

Unfortunately, I doubt that will ever happen again.

tony hipchest
10-05-2007, 06:01 PM
Was he facing a close race next year or did Pete just say to hell with it?

Sounds like the Dems are pushing Richardson hard to seek the seat.i dont really ever remember him facing a tough race. i mostly vote democratic but never even looked at the other candidates going up against him. he always got my vote cause he did a damn good job and earned it. he was good for the economy and instrumental in preventing AF base closures in new mexico. if the home of the stealth fighter closes down our town of 35,000 dies (:wave:- job) and becomes a ghost town. now we have the raptors moving in (i have a job for atleast the next 20 years :smile: or until the f-22 is proven to be obsolete ). republican or democrat, ultimately its about whats best for me.

hes citing health reasons (hes no spring chicken) but you raise an interresting point. richardson knows he has to get a new job next year (and unfortunately it wont be prez.) im not sure pete is up for the fight cause it will be a fight. (i think it was the gore/bush election where our states 2,000,000+ votes came down to the last 500 or so before gore was declared the winner???).

im sure he knows theres nobody better than richardson for the job. regardless of which sides of the aisle one is on my impression is that new mexicans tend to vote for the person best for the state.

i could see this as a case of domenici "going out on top" .

for such a small diverse population with such a large land mass, we can use all the credibility in washington we can get. both men bring exactly that.

Richardson for President '08 :tt02:

:chuckle:

tony hipchest
10-05-2007, 06:04 PM
You know...

the sad thing about it, is that as all the "old" one retire, our govt. is just going to get more ugly.

These guys learned from the ones who knew how to be respectful. Where did they all go? Why do they all have to go into retirement?

. good point that probably illustrates why i always admired the job domenici was doing. he seemed more like an "elected official" as opposed to a politician.

revefsreleets
10-05-2007, 06:12 PM
Great point, Preach. I was part of a conversation a few days ago where we were discussing just that. The gist of it was that while old white dudes who have ruled the country forever are definitely part of the problem, they were also at least good for maintaining a certain decorum. The younger generations (even the baby boomers to a degree) are certainly more profane and disrespectful.

Preacher
10-05-2007, 10:10 PM
Great point, Preach. I was part of a conversation a few days ago where we were discussing just that. The gist of it was that while old white dudes who have ruled the country forever are definitely part of the problem, they were also at least good for maintaining a certain decorum. The younger generations (even the baby boomers to a degree) are certainly more profane and disrespectful.

Absolutely. I put a large amount of the blame on the Baby boomers.

However, it is all of our faults for putting up with it.

Atlanta Dan
10-05-2007, 10:18 PM
Great point, Preach. I was part of a conversation a few days ago where we were discussing just that. The gist of it was that while old white dudes who have ruled the country forever are definitely part of the problem, they were also at least good for maintaining a certain decorum. The younger generations (even the baby boomers to a degree) are certainly more profane and disrespectful.

IMO the boomer politicians are the crux of the problem - politicians of my generation have spent the last 40 years refighting the 1960s (when political discourse took a very ugly turn) through arguing how one side was not only clearly right but the other side was clearly wrong - unfortunately it looks like another round will be fought next year.

Preacher
10-05-2007, 10:24 PM
IMO the boomer politicians are the crux of the problem - politicians of my generation have spent the last 40 years refighting the 1960s (when political discourse took a very ugly turn) through arguing how one side was not only clearly right but the other side was clearly wrong - unfortunately it looks like another round will be fought next year.

And the 2 years after that, and the 2 years after that, and the......


:pity:


Like I said in another thread. I wish this year, we could have Gary Hart and Fred Thompson debating. Those are about the only two right now that I would enjoy listening to.

Godfather
10-05-2007, 11:05 PM
(i think it was the gore/bush election where our states 2,000,000+ votes came down to the last 500 or so before gore was declared the winner???).


I think it was 267 votes...the Onion did an article during the recount fiasco that had W executing 268 NM Democrats :sofunny:

TroysBadDawg
10-06-2007, 09:33 AM
I feel we are in a very sorry state of affairs with our goverment at the present time and unless the people wake up and smell the roses we are in trouble. The government no longer represents the people they represent special interest groups and the lobiests who pour money into their election and re-election camapign coffers.

tony hipchest
10-06-2007, 12:47 PM
I feel we are in a very sorry state of affairs with our goverment at the present time and unless the people wake up and smell the roses we are in trouble. The government no longer represents the people they represent special interest groups and the lobiests who pour money into their election and re-election camapign coffers.

good post. i gotta point out though that i always clown emmit smith for butchering 2 phrases and inventing a new one of his own. hes never got a cliche right. :wink:

"wake up and smell the coffee" + "stop and smell the roses" = "wake up and smell the roses"

:sofunny: perfect emmitt smithism!

Atlanta Dan
10-06-2007, 04:33 PM
Apparently Senator Domenici does have a significant medical condition:

Mr. Domenici, who is 75 and in his sixth term, revealed on Thursday that he had frontotemporal lobar degeneration, a term that describes a family of diseases that damage parts of the brain that control language, behavior, planning, organizing, decision-making and movemen...

Dr. Bruce Miller, a neurologist at the University of California, San Francisco, and a leading expert on frontotemporal dementia, called it ?a very tough disease,? and said it could progress rapidly, twice as fast as Alzheimer?s.

?In a study we did, the average person, from the time of diagnosis, lived only about three and a half years,? Dr. Miller said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/07/us/07dementia.html?hp

Sad to read his retirement apparently is based on more than just wanting to call it a
career.

tony hipchest
10-06-2007, 04:58 PM
Apparently Senator Domenici does have a significant medical condition:


Sad to read his retirement apparently is based on more than just wanting to call it a
career.damn, that sucks. nytimes is pretty quick on the story (to no suprise, quicker than the nm media).

the way it seemed to be spun here, to this point, was that it was just typical (not too threatening) old age issues that were called "health concerns".

i much prefer the image of him riding off into the sunset to enjoy the rest of his highly successful life. this is definitely sad new for american congress and all new mexicans who backed him. the only positive is that if its richardson to take his place, it can be looked at as steve young taking over for joe montana.

im not comparing domenici to montana (even though he's a HOFer in my book), just making a point about suitable, capable back ups.

thanks for the info, dan :cheers:

tony hipchest
11-04-2008, 08:28 PM
its pretty much official.

not only do we lose domenici but fox news just gave the republican seat to democrat udall.

i did my part. i voted for the republican pearce. while he was no pete, he wasnt welcoming unions into govt jobs here in NM, and as a govt contractor who sees the union raking my employees over the coals, this was a HUGE issue with me.