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Edman
10-09-2007, 07:53 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AiGwibHH6JjmeBi5y1xV.OM5nYcB?slug=ap-cardinals-leinart&prov=ap&type=lgns

Pump and Dump by Whiz? Okobi not the player he thought he was? I think it's both.

83-Steelers-43
10-09-2007, 08:04 PM
Not exactly shocked by this decision.

Atlanta Dan
10-09-2007, 08:10 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AiGwibHH6JjmeBi5y1xV.OM5nYcB?slug=ap-cardinals-leinart&prov=ap&type=lgns

Pump and Dump by Whiz? Okobi not the player he thought he was? I think it's both.

:iagree:

Whiz played every angle he could to beat the Steelers and he played those angles well.

GBMelBlount
10-09-2007, 08:14 PM
Not exactly shocked by this decision.

I guess he wasn't the six million dollar man, as reflected in 2004 contract.

MasterOfPuppets
10-09-2007, 08:23 PM
Not exactly shocked by this decision.

i am !!! wasn't whiz and grimm on the coaching staff when the FO decided okolbi deserved starter money as the heir apparent center? don't you think those two were involved in the evaluation ,that lead too olkolbi's new contract?:banging:

83-Steelers-43
10-09-2007, 08:47 PM
i am !!! wasn't whiz and grimm on the coaching staff when the FO decided okolbi deserved starter money as the heir apparent center? don't you think those two were involved in the evaluation ,that lead too olkolbi's new contract?:banging:

Whiz and Grimm were also here when the guy never stepped up to the plate to replace an aging Jeff Harting. Whiz and Grimm were also paying attention when this team needed a center and instead of 'expecting' Okobi, this organization went out and signed Mahan. Then, Okobi went to Arizona I believe he was the 3rd option at center (behind Johnson and Hodel). The guy was not even considered a second string center in Arizona.

This decision was inevitable if you ask me, so no I'm not surprised.

83-Steelers-43
10-09-2007, 09:14 PM
Also, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that they signed Okobi for one reason and one reason only...........9/30/07.

The Duke
10-09-2007, 09:19 PM
Also, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to learn that they signed Okobi for one reason and one reason only...........9/30/07.

yep, brian st. pierre 2.0

Not only did they have our old offensive line coach but they had someone to tell them about the new offensive line formations

MasterOfPuppets
10-09-2007, 09:24 PM
Whiz and Grimm were also here when the guy never stepped up to the plate to replace an aging Jeff Harting. Whiz and Grimm were also paying attention when this team needed a center and instead of 'expecting' Okobi, this organization went out and signed Mahan. Then, Okobi went to Arizona I believe he was the 3rd option at center (behind Johnson and Hodel). The guy was not even considered a second string center in Arizona.

This decision was inevitable if you ask me, so no I'm not surprised.
i'm not sure if you got my point or not....but anyhow i was getting at.....whiz and grimm had years to evaluate okolbi and decide if he's starting material. okolbi gets a new fat contract WHILE whiz and grimm are still here. don't you think if whiz,and grimm DIDN'T , think okolbi was the center of the future, they would have let someone know thier opinion on resigning the bum? but yet he gets the contract which lead everyone to believe the position was secure after hartings pending retirement. do you think they had no say in personel decisions? did cowher and the FO disreguard thier opinions on players? okolbi himself even said if tomlin hadn't gottin the job he'd still be in pittsburgh.

Edman
10-09-2007, 10:44 PM
Boy, Whiz really sought every advantage he could find to beat his old team.

-Buttering up the players and coaching staff before the game.
-Playing head games with Ben in the Media.
-Tricking Arians into playing Cowher Ball.
-Now hiring Okobi off the streets and pump him full of info.

83-Steelers-43
10-10-2007, 06:06 AM
What's really interesting is how Tomlin knew within a few workouts that Mahan needed to be brought in to replace a no load Okobi. And I definately think Okobi was a pump and dump for Whiz, he needed to know the new plays.

Do all teams do this or is?was it just a AFC North/Central thing? Seems to me Jax used to pick up everyone we cut, for just a few games every year.

Agreed. Crazier things have been done in this league to give a team an edge. Video taping for example.

83-Steelers-43
10-10-2007, 06:08 AM
did cowher and the FO disreguard thier opinions on players?

I think you answered your own question. Farrior flat out stated Cowher over ruled LeBeau last season and they butted heads on a few occasions. I'm not sure if it was Grimm and Whisenhunt pressuring Cowher into signing Okobi. Heck, I don't think Whisenhunt and Grimm pressured Cowher into doing anything when it came to this team.

After hearing how Farrior explained the situation between Cowher and LeBeau, I would be willing to bet Whisenhunt and Grimm had to ask Cowher politely before they broke wind.

revefsreleets
10-10-2007, 08:32 AM
Wow. What a roller coaster ride. Contending for the starting spot on aplayoff caliber team in August, to cut by a mid-tier NFC team in October. If he was shocked to be cut by the Steelers, imagine how he feels now.

Look for the Ravens or Bengals to pick the guy up next.

tony hipchest
10-10-2007, 08:57 AM
Look for the Ravens or Bengals to pick the guy up next.thats what i was thinking but anyone think he was on a short plane ride to denver as soon as he got cut? they just lost nalen for the year, he would have the bye week to get acclimated to their system and have almost 2 weeks to give them any info he remembers on their next opponent. (steelers)

the way the broncos are reeling, im sure shanahan would gladly spend the vet minimum on okolbi if he thought it would help deliver a win. at this point a single win has got to be worth a million bucks. (780K). im thinking they view this as a make or break game for their season.

revefsreleets
10-10-2007, 09:06 AM
That's a good observation. I noticed that Whiz wanted to keep the ratio of ex-Steelers just as high, though, by signing Keydrick Vincent yesterday.

Mosca
10-10-2007, 10:07 AM
I think Okobi is good enough to play in the NFL, he's just not good enough to dominate, and he's not good enough to plug the center hole for the Steelers. If we hadn't stupidly paid him starter money before he became a starter, he'd probably still be on the team.

Denver would be smart to pick him up. Nalen is a Steeler-type center, they are hurting bad without him. If Okobi has any chance to redeem himself, that would be the place to do it.


Tom