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BrandonCarr39
10-12-2007, 11:38 AM
First off, I hope you guys kick the crap out of the over-rated Pats when you play them.

Anyhow-despite this game being played at TX Stadium, EVERY national media pundit, media outlet, and publication ALL THE WAY DOWN to our DFW media is picking a Pats blowout.

In your opinion, what do we have to do to beat the Pats? And do you think Romo/TO/MB3 and the rest of the Dallas O has what it takes to beat the Pats? And do you think the Dallas D is good enough to contain Brady/Moss and the rest of the Pats O?

Thanks in advance for your input!

alittlejazzbird
10-12-2007, 11:52 AM
Hey, TNewman, welcome to the board! I'll respectfully disagree with your notion that the Pats are overrated -- I really think they're as good as advertised -- but we hope to kick the crap out of them too, so thanks for the encouragement.

I'm going to try to root for the Cowboys this week, but you have to understand that many Steeler fans, including me, are sworn Cowboys haters (no offense to you, of course) and it's tough to cheer for you guys. :wink02:

Remember when the Steelers played the Colts in the playoffs in 05, and every single media outlet predicted total obliteration of the Steelers? On any given Sunday, anything can happen.

I think you're going to have a high scoring game on Sunday. It goes without saying that Romo has to be mistake-free, because the Pats will turn your mistakes into points. If he starts throwing INTs, you guys are toast. Dallas probably has to decide whether to try to contain the pass or the run, and you do have a really good cornerback who just might be able to rein Moss in a little. Getting pressure on Brady really irritates him, and sometimes he can be pushed into mistakes.

In my opinion, to beat them you're going to need a perfect day by your quarterback (oh, and no drops by T.O. - he's gotta hang on to that ball!), an All-Pro day by your corner, and to get the D into Brady's face as much as possible. Dallas can be a very high-scoring offense, so I look for the game to be close through at least three quarters unless Romo is throwing picks.

As much as it pains me to say this to a Cowboys fan: good luck!

ShutDown24
10-12-2007, 12:07 PM
I think the Cowboys have a decent shot. I would feel better about their chances if they would have lost Monday to the Bills as now some players might feel invincible… But the Patriots are not as good as advertised and have played a cake schedule up until now. I am hoping and thinking that the Cowboys will win. Any team can win on any week against anyone which is why the Patriots will not go 16 – 0 this year. They will have at least one loss against the Steelers in week 13 or 14 I think… Anyway, you have a good chance. Like I said I would have liked to see the Cowboys lose Monday at the Bills for motivation but they seem to be handling this well and I like them in this game.

BTW : Terrence Newman is awesome.

RoethlisBURGHer
10-12-2007, 12:46 PM
I think the Cowboys can beat them.

If Romo plays like he did in weeks 1 an 2 isntead of the way he played last Monday night, their chances are really good. If they have a good chance of hitting T.O. downfield on a play or two, they must take it. But no throwing into double/triple coverage.

T.O. has to stop dropping the ball. He has to get back to obliterating DB's after he catches the ball.

I think Newman can reign Moss in a bit. Moss is still gonna have a good day (at least 1 TD catch and probally at least 80 yards), but if you keep him from catching 3 TD's and racking up 100+ yards you'll have a chance.

The defense has to TACKLE TACKLE TACKLE. The Pats-Cleveland game was a blowout because of the Clowns didn't wrap up. They were going for a lot of highlight hits instead of a solid tackle.

Roy Williams sucks in coverage, but he's a heavy hitter. He needs to put some fear into the Patriot recievers not named Moss by blasting them into next year when the cross over the middle. When they are thinking about getting hit more that about making the catch, then they will be ineffective and Brady will have nobodyn to go to but Moss.

The Cowboys have to play a more aggresive blitz scheme. Your coach has to get the defense's front seven playing a scheme more like last year's Chargers. When Brady is getting pressured, that's when he makes mistakes. He'll throw more passes incomplete, throw up a few more jump balls, and be more skiddish and less protective of the football. He's a pretty boy, he doesn't like contact. You don't even have to sack him, just knock him down some and he'll be a bit off.

revefsreleets
10-12-2007, 12:56 PM
The Browns showed every team in the NFL how to do it: Run the football and play good defense. Anderson had like 189 INT's in that game or the score would have been MUCH closer, and that game was played in NE.

Mosca
10-12-2007, 01:10 PM
The game will be won or lost on the fundamentals. If the Cowboys run their plays the way they are supposed to, and if their defense plays solidly, they will win.

I don't think there is EVER any secret to winning in this league; it ALWAYS comes down to execution. The reason the Pats are so good (they are) is because they execute their scheme and their plays so well. The way to beat them is to match them in that area, and then try to take advantage where you have better personnel matchups; I think that means TO.

That's all they ever do to other teams, execute their plan where they match you evenly, or where you are better and might not execute as well, and then they beat you where their players are better because those guys won't make mistakes. Just beat them at their own game.

It IS tough to root for the Cowboys, but I'll do it! I'm glad that this game is during a bye week for us; it will give me a reason to be glued to the set (and avoid yard work).

Tom

TackleMeBen
10-12-2007, 01:25 PM
I think the Cowboys can win if Romo plays well and if the Dallas defense shows up and plays.

Hines0wnz
10-13-2007, 04:20 PM
The Browns showed every team in the NFL how to do it: Run the football and play good defense. Anderson had like 189 INT's in that game or the score would have been MUCH closer, and that game was played in NE.

I agree, if Barber and Jones can combine for 150+ yards and a couple of TDs then I think Dallas will win. But Dallas must get pressure on Brady to make him frustrated so he will throw a couple of INTs.

MasterOfPuppets
10-13-2007, 04:30 PM
the key is DEMARCUS WARE !!! dude needs to spend all day in the backfield knocking brady on his ass every chance he gets.

Elvis
10-13-2007, 04:36 PM
I just think that the Cowboys will have to play
a Perfect game for them to beat the Patriots. Do I think they
can do that?.....Sure I do
But I dont think they will.......
Marion Barber must be a big play guy in this game and keep the ball away from that potent offense of the Pats. The Cowboys have a great offesnse as well, but I honestly dont think that their defense is gonna
hold the Patriots in check
Good Luck to your
Cowboys...
:thumbsup:

Crushzilla
10-13-2007, 04:46 PM
I'll add to some points already made.

Roy Williams has been getting smoked a lot on coverage this year. I know that I saw on T.V. sometime in the past two weeks some game footage of him in the passing game. He looks terribly awkward and is having trouble committing to his assignments. It seems that a guy who makes his money taking off heads often has trouble sticking to coverage assignments. Newman is going to need him to help with Moss and if Dallas opts to play any sort of Zone coverage, like a Cover 2 where Newman plays somewhere within 10 yards of the LOS, they are going to get smoked by Randy Moss.

Another key will be how they defense plays in the middle of the field. Wes Welker is tremendously underrated on short routes and Brady can dink and dunk with the best of them.

On offense, the Cowboys have to establish a run game. The fact that they have a two headed running attack means that they are going to have the energy to take it to the Patriots defensive line. I have already said a few times that this defense is going to crumble as soon as they face a team that is capable of ramming it down their throat. We've all seen their swagger and B.S. hits late in the game once they have absolutely demoralized a team. Keeping it close and keeping those guys away from Romo's kneecaps is the only way this offense is going to produce anything through the air.

I'm not so worried about T.O., he'll get his. If there is a weekness to the Patriots defense I feel like its in the secondary. If the stats aren't there to back it up, its because the defensive line is very good at getting to the ball. It doesn't matter who is in the secondary, if Romo is forced to rush his throws, its going to get ugly.

Jason Witten, Jason Witten, Jason Witten is key to the Cowboys attack tomorrow. T.O. and Crayton need to spread out the secondary to open up the underneath route for Witten and Romo has to be smart enough to check down. I'm afraid that if the Patriots go up early, he won't. And they will lose any sort of offensive production.

GeneralRobinson
10-13-2007, 05:54 PM
Pat Kirwan made a good point that with so many weapons, it will be impossible to stop New England from moving the ball by taking one away. Dallas has to knock Tom Brady around. Hopefully they can get their outside linebackers matched up on a TE or RB on pass plays as they rush the QB.

On offense, Romo has to be smart. I don't expect Dallas to have early success running the ball so getting Jason Whitten the ball will be key. Keep the game close until the 4th quarter when Marion Barber will be able to run against a tired New England defense. Then, Dallas can play action pass to get Owens, Whitten, or Crayton deep down the field.

Big D
10-13-2007, 05:59 PM
First off, I hope you guys kick the crap out of the over-rated Pats when you play them.

Anyhow-despite this game being played at TX Stadium, EVERY national media pundit, media outlet, and publication ALL THE WAY DOWN to our DFW media is picking a Pats blowout.

In your opinion, what do we have to do to beat the Pats? And do you think Romo/TO/MB3 and the rest of the Dallas O has what it takes to beat the Pats? And do you think the Dallas D is good enough to contain Brady/Moss and the rest of the Pats O?

Thanks in advance for your input!

for starters romo can't turn the ball over 20 times. I think if I were calling the game I would run the ball more to keep the patriots offense off the field. This could be a make or break game for romo. I think he has been the most over hyped player to start the season

stlrtruck
10-13-2007, 10:07 PM
Key 1 - (as already stated) Hit Brady early, Hit Brady often
Key 2 - control the game, control the clock, control NE's offense
Key 3 - Get Moss off rhythm and turn him back into the obnoxious TO wannabe that everyone else knows him to be
Key 4 - Protect Romo
Key 5 - You don't need the long ball all the time, use what NE will give you. History will show that if you dink and dunk them, they'll give up some yardage

Hines0wnz
10-13-2007, 11:07 PM
Key 5 - You don't need the long ball all the time, use what NE will give you. History will show that if you dink and dunk them, they'll give up some yardage

I agree. Ball control to keep Brady and company off the field and use the age of their D against them. If Witten and Barber can help move the chains and churn out sustained drives then that D will be ripe for a big play in the 2nd half.

Preacher
10-13-2007, 11:30 PM
I agree. Ball control to keep Brady and company off the field and use the age of their D against them. If Witten and Barber can help move the chains and churn out sustained drives then that D will be ripe for a big play in the 2nd half.

:thumbsup:

Yep. Pats are good. They are doing very well. But they can be beaten by a very solid running team that can put the ball in the air when needed. Also... you need a very good SS/FS tandem. Moss needs to get laid out the first 3 times he tries to touch the ball.

jjpro11
10-13-2007, 11:57 PM
just kill brady baby. thats how you win vs the pats.

Providence Steel
10-14-2007, 08:30 AM
I think the only team that can beat the Pats right now, in this league, is the Pats. It will take a stellar performance by the opposing team and a lousy performance by the Pats. The Pats are the real deal regardless of their creampuff schedule. As much as I'd like to see them lose to better teams, I see them going 14- 2 if not better....god I hope I'm wrong.

Every Patriots fan in Providence is talking about how the Pats are kick the "you know what" out of Dallas today. Would be nice to see them eat their words.

lamberts-lost-tooth
10-14-2007, 09:22 AM
Simply put...you get in the Patriots red zone and you score...I know as of October 2nd...the Patriots were last in the league. They allowed touchdowns on 100 percent of their opponents' red zone trips. Six passes and one run.

GBMelBlount
10-14-2007, 09:22 AM
As has been said, I think the key is Dallas not turning it over and also giving Brady enough pressure to keep him off balance. Any given Sunday.