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10-17-2007, 12:41 AM
Steelers address altitude factor
Wednesday, October 17, 2007
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Mike Tomlin takes his team a mile high to Denver for Sunday night's game and the Steelers coach says he knows nothing about what that kind of altitude can do to the performance of visiting football players.

"That is probably a bad question for a football coach to answer," Tomlin said yesterday in his weekly news conference. "I missed that day in school.

"I'm sure it is a factor, but everybody that goes in there has to deal with [it]. It can't be a deciding factor and by no means can it be an excuse for the quality of our play."

The Steelers through the years have learned more about playing in high altitude the more they've played in Denver, and an expert exercise physiologist said one thing they're doing correctly is not arriving in the Mile High city too early.

But Jack Daniels, who heads the U.S. distance running program at the Center for High Altitude Training at Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff, Ariz., had some other advice for the Steelers and was baffled at the "blood flow" machine that Tomlin said will be used on the sideline Sunday night.

A generation or so ago, the general belief by NFL teams was to arrive in Denver early to get accustomed to the high altitude. The Cleveland Browns even practiced several days in the high altitude of Albuquerque, N.M., before they played -- and lost -- the AFC championship game in Denver in the 1987 season.

That was probably the worst thing the Browns could have done, said Daniels, who holds a doctorate in exercise physiology from the University of Wisconsin. He said the Steelers' scheduled arrival about 26 hours before the 8:15 p.m. kickoff in Denver is the best way to do it.

"They're better off getting there the day before than a couple of days, which is about the worst thing you can do," Daniels said. "We've always had the best luck within 24 hours of arrival."

No matter when they arrive, the Steelers will be at a disadvantage to the Broncos, who are used to living and training in the high altitude. Recovery time between exercise -- or, in the case of football, between plays -- may be their biggest problem. It takes longer to recover in high altitude, especially for those not used to it.

So, Daniels has a suggestion for the Steelers:

"The no-huddle is probably not too cool because you're not getting the recovery time between plays. ... And Denver will probably want to keep as short a time for recovery as possible to wear you down."

The Steelers plan to have extra oxygen tanks and masks on the sideline in Denver along with the mysterious "blood flow" machine.

Daniels said the oxygen tanks are a good idea but not necessarily because they contain oxygen.

"Usually what happens, when you watch football players, they come to the sideline and grab the oxygen. They typically take nice, slow, deep breaths, which is good. If they didn't have their face in a mask with oxygen, if they took those same deep breaths, they'd probably do as well."

But players normally tend to pant, so the masks help, but they'd be just as well off taking the atmosphere in deep breaths as oxygen, he said.

Daniels was bemused by the Steelers' other plan to combat the effects of high altitude on their players.

"We're going to have a piece of machinery that we think generates blood flow throughout the body on the sideline," Tomlin said.

Daniels is unaware of any such machinery or how it would work.

"I don't know what he's talking about," Daniels said. " ... It generates blood flow? To do that, your heart has to beat harder or faster -- that's the only way you can transport more blood because the heart does all the work. I don't know of any machine that will stimulate your heart faster or stronger.

"And when you're recovering from exercise, your heart beats fast anyway, so the blood flow is good. When it slows down, it doesn't need to pump any faster because it's doing the work.

"The point is: When you do recover, you're fine. It's not you're wiped out when you're up here. It's just the recovery time between bouts of work."

So, expect the Steelers to substitute more liberally Sunday night. They also should drink more fluids, Daniels advised.

"Other than that, there's not much you can do. You're just as fast. You don't lose any speed at all. What you lose is endurance, and football's not an endurance game, but recovery time is."

The high altitude is not impossible to overcome when dealing with the Broncos in Denver. The Steelers did it famously when they beat the Broncos there, 34-17, to win the 2005 AFC championship. And the Broncos have lost two of three games played at their Invesco Field at Mile High this season, including a 41-3 pounding by San Diego Oct. 7.

Tomlin said he has never coached a game in Denver.

"If you are a competitor, you like to compete and go into tough situations and environments, against tough and competent people," he said. "That is what we face this weekend."

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07290/826012-66.stm

Galax Steeler
10-17-2007, 03:37 AM
I think we will be fine but the blood flow machine I ain't so sure about.:hunch:

steelwolf21
10-17-2007, 06:29 AM
Methinks Tomlin's had a visit from the snakeoil salesman!:tt02:

Chronicgaming
10-17-2007, 07:51 AM
Maybe they will use an exercise bike on the sidelines as their "blood flow machine"? Out of all the experts to talk to, they picked a guy named Jack Daniels... nice.

:alcoholic

HometownGal
10-17-2007, 08:02 AM
Well - the way I look at it is this.

The Steelers didn't have a problem playing in Denver and wiping up the turf with the Broncs in the 2005 AFCC. Maybe Coach Tomlin should place a ringy dingy to Cowher to see what measures were taken to combat the altitude issue. :thumbsup:

TackleMeBen
10-17-2007, 09:20 AM
Well - the way I look at it is this.

The Steelers didn't have a problem playing in Denver and wiping up the turf with the Broncs in the 2005 AFCC. Maybe Coach Tomlin should place a ringy dingy to Cowher to see what measures were taken to combat the altitude issue. :thumbsup:

:iagree: so we can wipe the turf with them this time too. :cheer:

klick81
10-17-2007, 09:41 AM
We had no problems before. I think they need to worry about the gameplan. If they're in good shape (which they should be anyway), the altitude should not be a problem.

KYSteelersfan
10-17-2007, 10:11 AM
Altitude - Schmaltitude. Just go play football and kick a$$ again. :tt02:

The Chargers didn't have a problem with them. Maybe the Broncoes should take a lesson and see what the other teams are doing to prepare

tony hipchest
10-17-2007, 10:22 AM
Daniels was bemused by the Steelers' other plan to combat the effects of high altitude on their players.

"We're going to have a piece of machinery that we think generates blood flow throughout the body on the sideline," Tomlin said.

Daniels is unaware of any such machinery or how it would work.im unfamiliar with this machine. are they gonna bring in an iron lung? perhaps a hyperbaric chamber? maybe they will get all the players those oxygen tents anthony gonzalez uses.

anyone get the feeling tomlin is just messing with the media and jagging them off a bit by even bringing up this rediculous sounding "blood flow machine"?

klick81
10-17-2007, 10:49 AM
Maybe he's talking about LeBeau hyping the players up; making their blood flow faster! Hahaha...

SteelerFanInCA
10-17-2007, 11:14 AM
Yeah they said this same crap when we played Denver in the AFCCG two years ago and we all know how that game tunred out for us.

The whole altitude factor is all a bunch of overrated crap. When are they going to learn. We have a pretty good conditoned team so they should be able to adapt to it fairly easy.

steeler43pa
10-17-2007, 11:55 AM
im unfamiliar with this machine. are they gonna bring in an iron lung? perhaps a hyperbaric chamber? maybe they will get all the players those oxygen tents anthony gonzalez uses.

anyone get the feeling tomlin is just messing with the media and jagging them off a bit by even bringing up this rediculous sounding "blood flow machine"?

Sounds to me that coach Tomlin is defenitaly messing with the media on this one He even said it with somwhat of a smirk on his face like he was just joking around.

Edman
10-17-2007, 11:57 AM
Again with the stupid "Denver Mile High Altitude advantage". If that were the case, the Broncos wouldn't have gotten their butts handed to them by a warm-weather west coast team (The Chargers), and would go undefeated at home every year.

These are trained professional, conditioned, veteran athletes. Didn't stop them in the AFC Title game, and it won't stop them here.

revefsreleets
10-17-2007, 04:50 PM
I have never bought into all this altitude hype. The effects are may be noticeable if you are a 50 year old smoking fat man trying to hike a mountain, but these guys are all in good shape, not to mention the fact that the game is being played at 5,300 feet, not 53,000 feet.

Preacher
10-17-2007, 05:00 PM
I have never bought into all this altitude hype. The effects are may be noticeable if you are a 50 year old smoking fat man trying to hike a mountain, but these guys are all in good shape, not to mention the fact that the game is being played at 5,300 feet, not 53,000 feet.

A few years ago, I could feel a difference when I was in Santa Fe... which is just shy of 7000 feet.

However, I wasn't in the shape a professional football team is in.


I too have to question the man's name... Jack Daniels? WHAT?

delhess
10-17-2007, 05:19 PM
playboy bunnies!! it's got to be playboy bunnies! i know it!

what else could help your blood flow faster???

Rotorhead
10-17-2007, 07:59 PM
Well living in Denver I can tell you that the altitude will affect people somewhat (I was also a 400m runner in college so I have been an athlete in this altitude as well). All it really effects is the amount of stamina one has, for instance FWP will probably have to take a break after each 50+ yard runs he breaks to catch his breath, LOL. Basically recovery times will need to be increased so we will probably see more subs than normal, especially if the Donkeys figure out how to mount a sustained long drive. If we continue to get 3 and outs we will be fine.

stillers4me
10-17-2007, 08:00 PM
It wasn't us sucking oxygen on the sideline..........it was Jake the Snake, if I recall correctly. We were kicking their hineys so bad he was hyperventalating.

Not worried.

KYSteelersfan
10-18-2007, 08:48 AM
what else could help your blood flow faster???


Viagra :cya:

MasterOfPuppets
10-18-2007, 09:21 AM
playboy bunnies!! it's got to be playboy bunnies! i know it!

what else could help your blood flow faster???yup....nothin like a well oiled machine to get the blood pumpin....:lust:

steelpride12
10-18-2007, 03:50 PM
I don't believe anything about the altitude crap other than to scare there opponents that is not a worry i have in mind.

Just look what happened during the 2005 AFCCG its all good!